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It's not looking good for the Texas vigilante killing.
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astronut97
2020 May 11, 2:42pm
astronut97
2020 May 11, 2:42pm
Actually this happened in Georgia and the reason the video is only three minutes long is that's the length of time he was in the house under construction. These guys also tried stopping him multiple times before pulling out ahead of him and stopping their truck and then the driver hopped out holding a shotgun. They were harassing Ahmaud Arbery and he probably had had enough and possibly feared for his life and decided he needed to get the gun away from the driver.
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joshuatrio
2020 May 11, 4:17pm
joshuatrio
2020 May 11, 4:17pm
1) Who goes out for a jog in khaki shorts?
2) The armed vigilantes should have stayed in their truck and just followed with 911 on the phone.
3) Of course the media is trying to blow this up with Corona now blowing over.
2) The armed vigilantes should have stayed in their truck and just followed with 911 on the phone.
3) Of course the media is trying to blow this up with Corona now blowing over.
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Tenpoundbass
2020 May 11, 4:19pm
Tenpoundbass
2020 May 11, 4:19pm
astronut97 says
Correct and this 4:08 video only shows the same 4 seconds over in a loop, always stopping at the same point.
What were they hiding?
All of the rest will come out in the court.
People with priors and records though, KNOW for a most certain FACT, they have not business snooping around a construction site.
If the guy is a Choir boy those Georgia boys are screwed.
Actually this happened in Georgia and the reason the video is only three minutes long is that's the length of time he was in the house under construction.
Correct and this 4:08 video only shows the same 4 seconds over in a loop, always stopping at the same point.
What were they hiding?
All of the rest will come out in the court.
People with priors and records though, KNOW for a most certain FACT, they have not business snooping around a construction site.
If the guy is a Choir boy those Georgia boys are screwed.
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Tenpoundbass
2020 May 11, 4:22pm
Tenpoundbass
2020 May 11, 4:22pm
I bet he goes and scopes out the Bob Cat in the lower left corner, then what's in those nail boxes in the bottom right corner.
Was making his way to the back room when he saw and heard the neighbor. That would take about 3 minutes. What are they hiding showing the same few seconds.
Was making his way to the back room when he saw and heard the neighbor. That would take about 3 minutes. What are they hiding showing the same few seconds.
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Hircus
2020 May 11, 5:10pm
Hircus
2020 May 11, 5:10pm
joshuatrio says
https://theredelephants.com/black-male-who-hunted-assassinated-elderly-couple-inside-veterans-cemetery-identified/
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 May 11, 6:35pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 May 11, 6:35pm
Tenpoundbass says
This is looking more like Brown.
Remember the media selectively leaked "Hands Up Don't Shoot", without reporting that lie came from his accomplice and fellow convenience store thief buddy of his?
Here is the letter from the DA's office explaining why they didn't prosecute. Note the facts not reported by the media:
* Arbery was running ALONGSIDE the Truck, then made a sharp 90 left turn to attack the son
* There is video that confirms parts of the McMichael story
* There is video of Arbery going in and out of the house AND garage several times - not the interior few seconds that the Media keeps playing.
* Arbery initiated the struggle - that is he charged the McMichaels - invalidating claims that Arbery was simply shot out of hand
* The ballistics and wound areas suggest it was a trigger pulled in the struggle over a weapon, not shot from a distance like Black Lives Only Matter if it involves Whites types claim.
* Arbery has prior convictions AND a Mental Health Record for violent/erratic behavior.
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6916-george-barnhill-letter-to-glyn/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf
I suspect Georgia is handing it over to the Feds to avoid Bias Charges when the Evidence confirms the initial decision of the authorities not to prosecute self-defense.
If the guy is a Choir boy those Georgia boys are screwed.
This is looking more like Brown.
Remember the media selectively leaked "Hands Up Don't Shoot", without reporting that lie came from his accomplice and fellow convenience store thief buddy of his?
Here is the letter from the DA's office explaining why they didn't prosecute. Note the facts not reported by the media:
* Arbery was running ALONGSIDE the Truck, then made a sharp 90 left turn to attack the son
* There is video that confirms parts of the McMichael story
* There is video of Arbery going in and out of the house AND garage several times - not the interior few seconds that the Media keeps playing.
* Arbery initiated the struggle - that is he charged the McMichaels - invalidating claims that Arbery was simply shot out of hand
* The ballistics and wound areas suggest it was a trigger pulled in the struggle over a weapon, not shot from a distance like Black Lives Only Matter if it involves Whites types claim.
* Arbery has prior convictions AND a Mental Health Record for violent/erratic behavior.
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6916-george-barnhill-letter-to-glyn/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf
I suspect Georgia is handing it over to the Feds to avoid Bias Charges when the Evidence confirms the initial decision of the authorities not to prosecute self-defense.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 May 11, 6:42pm
From prior post.
Here's piece of the Video:
https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/georgia/ahmaud-arbery-case-protesters-gather-brunswick-after-video-showing-mans-death-is-released-online/LMPNFAQKMRBA3JVYKFZFM7CZFI/
Arbery can clearly be seen trying to grabbing a shotgun and delivering hooks to McMichaels face repeatedly before McMichaels fires.
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 May 11, 6:42pm
From prior post.
Here's piece of the Video:
https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/georgia/ahmaud-arbery-case-protesters-gather-brunswick-after-video-showing-mans-death-is-released-online/LMPNFAQKMRBA3JVYKFZFM7CZFI/
Arbery can clearly be seen trying to grabbing a shotgun and delivering hooks to McMichaels face repeatedly before McMichaels fires.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 May 11, 6:52pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 May 11, 6:52pm
Better video - not snapshots or slowed down:
Arbery clearly is making a running charge at McMichaels - no doubt about it.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/GY7ZtE0gH2CE/
Also: One of the prior convictions was entering a Brunswick High School Basketball Game armed with a .380 Pistol, which fell out of his pants as he ran from security officers. He was 19 at the time.
Arbery clearly is making a running charge at McMichaels - no doubt about it.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/GY7ZtE0gH2CE/
Also: One of the prior convictions was entering a Brunswick High School Basketball Game armed with a .380 Pistol, which fell out of his pants as he ran from security officers. He was 19 at the time.
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Tenpoundbass
2020 May 11, 7:03pm
Tenpoundbass
2020 May 11, 7:03pm
Unfortunate that Arbery grabbed the gun. By him doing so, it takes away the Murder charge.
But they will be charged with Man Slaughter, they are as much at fault as Arbery for what he did.
There's also 90% chance, that had the Police caught up with Arbery instead, he would have attacked them and got shot.
Due to Arbery's lack of respect for other people's property, he made the decision to create a situation where either the Vigilantes or the Police were going to be in a Homicide investigation.
But they will be charged with Man Slaughter, they are as much at fault as Arbery for what he did.
There's also 90% chance, that had the Police caught up with Arbery instead, he would have attacked them and got shot.
Due to Arbery's lack of respect for other people's property, he made the decision to create a situation where either the Vigilantes or the Police were going to be in a Homicide investigation.
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SoTex
2020 May 11, 8:28pm
SoTex
2020 May 11, 8:28pm
NoCoupForYou says
What the fuck is wrong with our media these days. I think I'm going to leave a giant wad of gum on the CNN monitor next time I'm in an airport.
Better video - not snapshots or slowed down:
What the fuck is wrong with our media these days. I think I'm going to leave a giant wad of gum on the CNN monitor next time I'm in an airport.
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mell
2020 May 11, 9:54pm
The least the guys could get is nothing due to self defense, the most may be manslaughter. From the video though it's clear they didn't corner him and he attacked first. This looks like Trayvon Martin reloaded, just with less favorable local laws for the 2 guys. The media, creepy uncle Joe and cumalla narrative of peace activist and student of the year going for a friendly jog and a bag of skittles and running into 2 vigilante kkklan members is once again utter race baiting horse shit.
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marcus
2020 May 11, 11:52pm
marcus
2020 May 11, 11:52pm
mell says
There's another video that shows them pursuing him first. He's running before they even come up on him. Then they drive the truck to in front of him. What, to stop him and make a citizens arrest ? They thought he looked like someone that had broken in to homes. It's now known there were no break ins they are referring to. The guys out for a run, and a guy with a rifle tries to what stop him for running through their neighborhood ?
You guys have to know you constantly confirm for any objective centrist readers of this forum the real reason why you have Trump TDS. (Total Devotion Syndrome)
From the video though it's clear they didn't corner him and he attacked first.
There's another video that shows them pursuing him first. He's running before they even come up on him. Then they drive the truck to in front of him. What, to stop him and make a citizens arrest ? They thought he looked like someone that had broken in to homes. It's now known there were no break ins they are referring to. The guys out for a run, and a guy with a rifle tries to what stop him for running through their neighborhood ?
You guys have to know you constantly confirm for any objective centrist readers of this forum the real reason why you have Trump TDS. (Total Devotion Syndrome)
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marcus
2020 May 12, 12:08am
marcus
2020 May 12, 12:08am
Tenpoundbass says
Oh, I don't know. If you're in the middle of a running meditative state and these guys pull in from of you and get out with guns drawn, what are you supposed to assume they are up to ? Trying to wrestle the rifle away from him might seem like a reasonable way to not get shot. OR who knows, maybe it was suicide by resisting ignorant Trump Cultists. But what the hell were they doing, pulling in from of him and getting out armed ?
Why do they have the right to pull their guns on the guy ?
Why did Ahmaud Arbery, grab their gun
Oh, I don't know. If you're in the middle of a running meditative state and these guys pull in from of you and get out with guns drawn, what are you supposed to assume they are up to ? Trying to wrestle the rifle away from him might seem like a reasonable way to not get shot. OR who knows, maybe it was suicide by resisting ignorant Trump Cultists. But what the hell were they doing, pulling in from of him and getting out armed ?
Why do they have the right to pull their guns on the guy ?
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CBOEtrader
2020 May 12, 3:20am
CBOEtrader
2020 May 12, 3:20am
NoCoupForYou says
They didnt decide not to prosecute. They decided not to make an immediate arrest and present evidence to a grand jury to make the indictment decision.
Here is the letter from the DA's office explaining why they didn't prosecute.
They didnt decide not to prosecute. They decided not to make an immediate arrest and present evidence to a grand jury to make the indictment decision.
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CBOEtrader
2020 May 12, 3:28am
CBOEtrader
2020 May 12, 3:28am
marcus says
There are multiple videos and eyewitnesses. He wasnt out for a jog.
marcus says
Well, when you are being questioned by armed civilians for trespassing, you probably shouldnt react violently. It is both illegal and evidence of guilt.
The Mcmichaels handled this poorly, albeit legally. Stop pretending the victim dindunuttin. He didnt deserve to die but it appears more his own fault than anyone else's fault.
Id expect Mcmichaels to get manslaughter, or nothing. Sounds like manslaughter is only possible for PC reasons.
They thought he looked like someone that had broken in to homes. It's now known there were no break ins they are referring to.
There are multiple videos and eyewitnesses. He wasnt out for a jog.
marcus says
Trying to wrestle the rifle away from him might seem like a reasonable way to not get shot.
Well, when you are being questioned by armed civilians for trespassing, you probably shouldnt react violently. It is both illegal and evidence of guilt.
The Mcmichaels handled this poorly, albeit legally. Stop pretending the victim dindunuttin. He didnt deserve to die but it appears more his own fault than anyone else's fault.
Id expect Mcmichaels to get manslaughter, or nothing. Sounds like manslaughter is only possible for PC reasons.
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GNL
2020 May 12, 5:06am
GNL
2020 May 12, 5:06am
marcus says
How can you be so wrong all the time?
Watch the video above. The one where a black police officer breaks it down for you. Fyi, they broke ZERO Georgia laws.
mell saysFrom the video though it's clear they didn't corner him and he attacked first.
There's another video that shows them pursuing him first. He's running before they even come up on him. Then they drive the truck to in front of him. What, to stop him and make a citizens arrest ? They thought he looked like someone that had broken in to homes. It's now known there were no break ins they are referring to. The guys out for a run, and a guy with a rifle tries to what stop him for running through their neighborhood ?
You guys have to know you constantly confirm for any objective centrist readers of this forum the real reason why you have Trump TDS. (Total Devotion Syndrome)
How can you be so wrong all the time?
Watch the video above. The one where a black police officer breaks it down for you. Fyi, they broke ZERO Georgia laws.
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Onvacation
2020 May 12, 9:34am
Onvacation
2020 May 12, 9:34am
People get arrested for resisting arrest all the time. They don't ALWAYS get shot.
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CBOEtrader
2020 May 12, 9:45am
CBOEtrader
2020 May 12, 9:45am
WineHorror1 says
CNN, MSNBC, and the Daily Show are his news which he watches with an uncritical eye.
How can you be so wrong all the time?
CNN, MSNBC, and the Daily Show are his news which he watches with an uncritical eye.
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exfatguy
2020 May 12, 10:48am
I don't care if he was a burglary suspect or not. If he wasn't actively endangering their lives or their property, they have no right to come at him with guns drawn. They could have certainly followed him until the police came, but the guns were entirely unnecessary based on the video.
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Shaman
2020 May 12, 11:01am
Shaman
2020 May 12, 11:01am
marcus says
That’s only because young black males make up 6% of Americans but commit 55% of violent crime. Police are just playing the odds, same as anyone would do.
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That’s only because young black males make up 6% of Americans but commit 55% of violent crime. Police are just playing the odds, same as anyone would do.
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mell
2020 May 12, 11:07am
exfatguy says
Do you lounge at somebody and attack them if they have a gun drawn? Certainly not - no matter what those guys did wrong or not, you'd likely be alive cause you would have probably talked to them and diffused the situation. They weren't torturing him or harassing him in any way at this point except for wanting to talk to him. His death was senseless but mostly caused by his actions and reactions.
I don't care if he was a burglary suspect or not. If he wasn't actively endangering their lives or their property, they have no right to come at him with guns drawn. They could have certainly followed him until the police came, but the guns were entirely unnecessary based on the video.
Do you lounge at somebody and attack them if they have a gun drawn? Certainly not - no matter what those guys did wrong or not, you'd likely be alive cause you would have probably talked to them and diffused the situation. They weren't torturing him or harassing him in any way at this point except for wanting to talk to him. His death was senseless but mostly caused by his actions and reactions.
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steverbeaver
2020 May 12, 12:19pm
steverbeaver
2020 May 12, 12:19pm
exfatguy says
Guy tells you to stop. You have been trespassing, you know it, keep running. Guy pulls ahead and gets out with a shotgun in the middle of the road in broad daylight; he keeps the gun pointed down. Obviously he is there to murder you to provide entertainment to the whole neighborhood because of Covid19 boredom, not inquire about your trespass while ensuring his own safety and detaining you until police arrive. Therefore, you have no other choice but to rush him from several yards away- you must take his gun and use it on him or else.
The sad part is that this is a real paraphrase of the narrative going on right now. The dishonesty is infuriating. This has all the makings of James Fields again... or Trayvoff Brown again... no telling where this will land at the moment.
I don't care if he was a burglary suspect or not. If he wasn't actively endangering their lives or their property, they have no right to come at him with guns drawn. They could have certainly followed him until the police came, but the guns were entirely unnecessary based on the video.
Guy tells you to stop. You have been trespassing, you know it, keep running. Guy pulls ahead and gets out with a shotgun in the middle of the road in broad daylight; he keeps the gun pointed down. Obviously he is there to murder you to provide entertainment to the whole neighborhood because of Covid19 boredom, not inquire about your trespass while ensuring his own safety and detaining you until police arrive. Therefore, you have no other choice but to rush him from several yards away- you must take his gun and use it on him or else.
The sad part is that this is a real paraphrase of the narrative going on right now. The dishonesty is infuriating. This has all the makings of James Fields again... or Trayvoff Brown again... no telling where this will land at the moment.
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marcus
2020 May 12, 1:05pm
marcus
2020 May 12, 1:05pm
CBOEtrader says
I don't watch any of those much at all.
Speaking of critical thinking, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see a rather stunning predictive quality between being a Trump supporter and seeing this type of event in a certain way. Why is it that Trump supporters first tendency is to assume that the black guy that got killed pretty much deserved it ?
Just an observation.
CNN, MSNBC, and the Daily Show are his news which he watches with an uncritical eye
I don't watch any of those much at all.
Speaking of critical thinking, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see a rather stunning predictive quality between being a Trump supporter and seeing this type of event in a certain way. Why is it that Trump supporters first tendency is to assume that the black guy that got killed pretty much deserved it ?
Just an observation.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 May 12, 1:16pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 May 12, 1:16pm
marcus says
Why did the DIVISIVE Atlanta Mayor assume it was the fault of Trump?
Democrats need to reign her divisiveness in.
Speaking of critical thinking, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see a rather stunning predictive quality between being a Trump supporter and seeing this type of event in a certain way. Why is it that Trump supporters first tendency is to assume that the black guy that got killed pretty much deserved it ?
Why did the DIVISIVE Atlanta Mayor assume it was the fault of Trump?
Democrats need to reign her divisiveness in.
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marcus
2020 May 12, 1:20pm
marcus
2020 May 12, 1:20pm
:
Good one. Good job electing someone that could represent us all, and the issues that are important to us all, so well.
Good one. Good job electing someone that could represent us all, and the issues that are important to us all, so well.
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marcus
2020 May 12, 1:25pm
marcus
2020 May 12, 1:25pm
NoCoupForYou says
What, you don't think that Trump has made racists feel better about flaunting how deplorable they are ? I would cite this very thread as evidence in my favor. But then I'm a rational and objective centrist.
I guess one thing we can agree on is that divisive hate and polarization is on the increase.
Why did the DIVISIVE Atlanta Mayor assume it was the fault of Trump?
What, you don't think that Trump has made racists feel better about flaunting how deplorable they are ? I would cite this very thread as evidence in my favor. But then I'm a rational and objective centrist.
I guess one thing we can agree on is that divisive hate and polarization is on the increase.
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Onvacation
2020 May 12, 1:53pm
Onvacation
2020 May 12, 1:53pm
marcus says
Nobody deserves to get killed for burglary. But it is stupid to charge at a man pointing a gun at you. If he had wrestled away the shotgun the other guy had a revolver ready to protect himself.
Why is it that Trump supporters first tendency is to assume that the black guy that got killed pretty much deserved it ?
Nobody deserves to get killed for burglary. But it is stupid to charge at a man pointing a gun at you. If he had wrestled away the shotgun the other guy had a revolver ready to protect himself.
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Onvacation
2020 May 12, 1:56pm
Onvacation
2020 May 12, 1:56pm
marcus says
Hopefully the democrats will move on some day. The party of slavery and the KKK is still trying to oppress "people of color".
I guess one thing we can agree on is that divisive hate and polarization is on the increase.
Hopefully the democrats will move on some day. The party of slavery and the KKK is still trying to oppress "people of color".
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BoomAndBustCycle
2020 May 12, 6:29pm
Onvacation says
Equally stupid for pulling a gun out in the first place in this situation and approaching close enough to someone for the obviously unarmed man to be able to grab the barrel of your gun. People do stupid stuff in panic / flight or fight is an instinct.
marcus saysWhy is it that Trump supporters first tendency is to assume that the black guy that got killed pretty much deserved it ?
Nobody deserves to get killed for burglary. But it is stupid to charge at a man pointing a gun at you. If he had wrestled away the shotgun the other guy had a revolver ready to protect himself.
Equally stupid for pulling a gun out in the first place in this situation and approaching close enough to someone for the obviously unarmed man to be able to grab the barrel of your gun. People do stupid stuff in panic / flight or fight is an instinct.
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There's not a stand your ground law in the US that will back you, if things get out of hand at that point. In almost every scenario, you'll be the aggressor.
Why did Ahmaud Arbery, grab their gun, the video would have cleared him and he could have sued them later.
It's been rumored he was in boots, and was carrying a hammer, though it's clear he wasn't doing either. The video, shows Ahmaud enter the under construction property. But IMHO, it doesn't look like he's casing the place. Now they don't show the whole video, he could have looked innocent until the video stops. Then he could have been snooping and prowling looking for tools, and scoping out any copper wire. Speculation of course, but why release the video and not show the entire three minutes. What was he doing when he noticed the neighbor across the street calling 9-11 before he bolted out the door?
If he was doing nothing more than what it looked like, it could be argued he was stopping by looking for work. That's how I used to get construction work way way on back in the day. Just show up on the job, and ask if they need help.
It's not looking good for the Good Ole Boys, what's in the rest of the video, and why is Ahmaud so brazen to try to take the gun, rather than the prospect of waiting for the police?
Especially given the lack of will to prosecute these days by Liberal judges, Mayors and DA's.
www.youtube.com/embed/rg8CaecNJI8