patrick.net

And about Trump. People support him, like me, not because we're brainwashed, but because we're not brainwashed. We took the red pill, and you, dear Jazz, took the blue pill. You live in a world of fantasy and TDS. Trump wants to fix the economy. He wants an infrastructure bill, but the Dems in the House don't want that for him. He wants better deals with China and Russia, he wants an arms deal, and so does Putin, but he is blocked at this point from achieving those goals over the coronavirus and the Dems in the House.

Trump wants to make America better. I mean, how could he? What a terrible terrible man. He's the worst, wanting to help Americans, and the common working man? What's the matter with him? He should be impeached. Oh, that's right he was, and that was egg on the Democrats face, not Trumps'. I can't wait to see what the voters have to say about that in November. I voted for Trump because he is a Washington outsider and DC is a corrupt cesspool and politicians on both sides of the isle are up to their eyeballs in it, especially Obama, whom the press has been covering up for since he was a senator form Chicago, one of the most corrupt cities in America.

You may not know this Jazz, but it has recently been revealed that Obama and Biden and Susan Rice were both in on a meeting where they were informed about a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign that was illegally obtained with the unverified Steele dossier. Steel was MI6, an English spy, you know, like James Bond. You talk about using foreign intelligence service to influence an election. It wasn't Trump and Russia. It was the Democrats and England. Hillary and the DNC hired a company to collect opposition research on Trump, whether it be true or not.

SEE: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/02/biden-present-at-russia-collusion-briefing-documented-in-odd-susan-rice-email/

Lowering the tax burden for corporations was how he encouraged big business and factories to return to America. They said the stock market would crash if Trump became president and it went up higher than ever. That benefits us all, but Democrats would rather see the economy fail then four more years of Trump, and that is sick. People's hatred of Trump has been shaped by a lying left-wing media that falsely portrayed Trump as a villain. Say enough erroneous bad things about a person and most people will develop an aversion to them. This is what happened to Trump.

And you, my dear sir, are a victim of the lying left-wing media. I have seen them lie repeatedly and recorded many instances where they did that very thing:

HERE is one example: The Coventon school hoax: https://mojomorning.blogspot.com/2019/01/black-hebrew-israelites.html

Another example: The Charlottesville Hoax: https://mojomorning.blogspot.com/2019/07/charlottesville-hoax.html

I could go on, but I doubt you get through those two articles.

jazz_music says

Activism is still the only way.

Activism to bring back the neocons for MOAR WARS, more globalism, more immigrants to compete for jobs, more offshoring to send jobs away, and less unions because they raise the price of labor and the oligarchs don’t want that.
You are an excellent corporate oligarch stooge who somehow thinks he is fighting for labor rights?
Stupidity.
Or maybe just senility.

Libs: Ha! How is your Existential Crisis going, Trumpster? Are you writhing in dust, shrieking with mental agony over (INSERT FAKENEWS BS) and Trump?

Me:

www.youtube.com/embed/FSqVtmfDDFg

jazz_music says

I agree on that, Trump’s criminal history should be front and center.

Go ahead. The platform is yours. What is the most heinous crime Trump ever committed?

Not expecting a cogent answer.

jazz_music says

I agree on that, Trump’s criminal history should be front and center.

You mean all the ones he's never been charged with and the Democrats couldn't even get enough evidence for a charge, much less a conviction?

rdm says

Reality says

Not surprising now the partisan Democrats are resorting to tasteless and pointless ad hominem attack against a real rape victim.

I luv the trumpists suddenly becoming ardent feminazis when a Dem is accused.

Its not "Trumpists" who did the "believe all women" nonsense and tried destroying an innocent man's life off an obviously lying or delusion accuser w zero evidence.

This accusation is perhaps more believable, still probably bullshit.

Jazz has once again shown he has nothing but TDS and an opinion seldom backed by facts. That's not a personal attack just my opinion based on observation.

jazz_music says

TRUMP'S "MIND CONTROL CULT" NOW FACES AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS

What does that even mean?

Hang in there Jazz. The cognitive dissonance is telling you something.

WillPowers says

I voted for Trump because he is a Washington outsider and DC is a corrupt cesspool

WillPowers says

wanting to help Americans, and the common working man?

Trump is all about the common man.

jazz_music says

What does your mom think of the way you incessantly troll for Trump?

For Trump? I don't think he reads Patnet.

But he's not starving and he still has a twitter account.

jazz_music says

Onvacation says

What is the most heinous crime Trump ever committed?

I'll spare you the one upsmanship of a sarcastic answer.

If you can love Trump unconditionally, You can look at Trump's history too. It might even give you a boner.

OR you could just tell us, unless its all in your head ofc.

Running from basic facts is a sign of extreme TDS. Marcus does exactly the same thing when asked to name a big Trump lie. "Trump is the WORST. If you dont know why, im not gonna tell you." Ok, Karen.

She really put on weight from her younger years. Must be from depression caused by Biden’s rapes.

jazz_music says

No

I

didn't

mean

that.

So what are these historical crimes, then?

Being a Russian - hahaha - agent - hoohohohohoho - since 1987? Hahahahaha

CBOEtrader says

Running from basic facts is a sign of extreme TDS. Marcus does exactly the same thing when asked to name a big Trump lie. "Trump is the WORST. If you dont know why, im not gonna tell you." Ok, Karen.

You got it!

"Which Lies? Just read the Washington Post."

OccasionalCortex says

Ppl who say they will vote for Biden automatically out themselves as fools. When they say they are doing it purely 'to vote for whomever runs against Trump', then they are also outing themselves as TDS idiots as well as general fools.

Remember back before the DNC bribed and threatened to get Klobuchar and Butt Edge Edge out of the race the eve of Super Tuesday?

We asked Democrats here repeatedly who they supported, and we saw more dodges than a P-51 over the Rhine.

marcus says

They were doing such a great job! Overcharging, Corruption, Kickbacks, and Revolving DOors has never been lower or less of a problem - until Trump came along. SNORT

Remember all the Inspector Generals who ran wild charging colluding government officials in the aftermath of the Financial Crisis? Neither do I.

Did the Inspector General of the State Department do an investigation into why Samantha Powers was unmasking so many Americans?

NoCoupForYou says

So what are these historical crimes, then?

He wont answer because he has no answer. Jazz posts these idiotic long worded dribble articles, riddled w orange man bad insanity. When asked to explain his thoughts on the obviously fictional core points, he writes replies equally devoid of facts or logical thinking. His posts read hes practicing slam poetry.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says

SHE's SO BIG!

SHE's SO BIG!

SHE'S BIG!

SHE'S BIG!

SHE'S BIG!

You should be a lyricist.

www.youtube.com/embed/i63cgUeSsY0&has_verified=1

yeah but look at all of the heart attack, stroke, cancer, drowning, and blunt trauma people are no longer dying of.

jazz_music says

I'll spare you the one upsmanship of a sarcastic answer.

Translation: I got nothing! I was talking out of my ass and I have no response to your question.

Tim Aurora says

I for one, find his counter arguments very impressive

How embarrassing for you.

Shaman says

jazz_music says

I'll spare you the one upsmanship of a sarcastic answer.

Translation: I got nothing! I was talking out of my ass and I have no response to your question.

I haven't seen one of the TDS afflicted make a cogent argument against Trump. This thread is as intellectually weak as it gets. Unfortunately just as expected

jazz_music says

"Yes, Trump lied to me." They need to say that to themselves and realize that Trump is not for the average person. He's not making America great. He's making things worse. He's dividing us. He's enriching himself. He's undermining the separation of church and state. He's undermining the rule of law.

The truth is knowable if you try.

Give us your best example of any one of the above. Just one. (Then ask yourself why you cant.)

jazz_music says

The tax cuts for the rich.

You think tax cuts deserve this critique? :

jazz_music says

Trump is absolutely not making America great. He's making things worse. He's dividing us. He's enriching himself. He's undermining the separation of church and state. He's undermining the rule of law.

At least we are taking steps towards an actual discussion, but tax cuts are a weak example. You dont think tax cuts are good for us, noted. Didnt Clinton cut taxes for "the rich" too. Does Clinton also deserve your critique?

Im looking for congruent logic but not seeing. Please enlighten me.

Perhaps give an example of how you feel Trump is uniquely undermining the rule of law? Or doing something uniquely different to deserve the outrage.

Did you remove some of my comments? I have them recorded in this video I made on May 22:

Will Powers Reacts to Post on Patrick Dot Net - Reduces Jazz Argument to Rubble: Part 1

www.youtube.com/embed/YpcktGW-da4

Also: Will Powers Reacts to Post on Patrick Dot Net - Reduces Jazz Argument to Rubble: Part 2

https://youtu.be/K8i7mVNUvy8

Beschloss and Lee are themselves are showing classic signs of mental illness. Out of the 700,000+ Americans who have died in the last 100 days, with the bureaucrats paying $13,000 for every CV check-mark, and $39,000 for intubating and killing said CV-positive, it's a miracle (and testament to the remaining integrity among real doctors who treat patients, as opposed to costumed bureaucrats like Fauci) only less than 1/7 of all deaths have been check-marked as CV deaths.

As for playing golf, at least Trump is not being paid by taxpayers to play golf like Obama was.

I had no issue with Obama golfing. Every person needs a hobby and stress relief. We're talking about $0.20 or less for every American and almost half don't even pay federal taxes, so they don't have a leg to stand on when bitching about the golf.

Most the costs are linked to the travel and making sure sites are secure. So it's not really golf. I'd appreciate if they could make the rounds linked to something work wise as far as location so travel costs are baked in, but other wise I don't give a shit about any POTUS golfing. I've never understood why it was a problem. Not going to get worked up if 0.0005% of my taxes paid are used on golf.

jazz_music says

I did not know Urban diction ary had severe TDS? Wiki has it too but at least they have an honest definition of the syndrome:

Trump Derangement Syndrome
Trump Derangement Syndrome is a term applied by some writers to describe critics of US President Donald Trump, including liberals and progressives, whom they accuse of responding to statements and political actions by Trump in a manner verging on the irrational, without regard to his actual position or action taken.
More at Wikipedia

If rightwingers didn’t care about Obama’s golfing, they sure didn’t talk about it at the time.

Like Clinton, some people always argue what is is.

It is what it is and all the redefining in the world doesn't change what is.

jazz_music says

Shaman says

I got nothing!

I got a nice OP.

What do you have but tears,

You got a completely ridiculous OP that absolutely nobody takes seriously except for you. I doubt even the authors are self deluded enough to believe their own horse shit, but know what they have to produce to keep knuckle dragging subscribers like yourself tuned in and full of hate.

Wutz a teaparty?

They haven't been relevant, since Ted Cruz was Republican Stalwart, now he's a corrupt RINO protege of Shitstain McCain.

What is interesting is the rise of the common class/working class voting republican with the traditional wealthy corporate manager and creative classes moving ever more "leftward". It is no surprise that while the left complains of the Koch brothers we have far wealthier individuals and companies supporting the radical left. Forget about Soros - think Gates, Buffet and others of a similar vein.

https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/11/state-voting-patterns-occupational-class-data-politics/575047/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenhayward/2014/01/08/how-did-the-democrats-become-the-party-of-the-rich/#38e333063f60

There are many theories why. Obviously, the Democrat re-triangulation under Clinton adopting free trade polices of the Rep party was a factor. The argument I like best is that the super rich want to permanently establish their wealth and by supporting democrat party which believes in substantial regulation, the legal system poses a significant barrier to entry for competitors. The small business is anathema to the left as it represents a loss of control.

What we have now is a party of the super rich and the welfare state against the small business person and low-middle class.



marcus says

WillPowers says

wanting to help Americans, and the common working man?

Trump is all about the common man.

jazz_music says

BTW, according to the link I furnished with the OP, the author is CHAUNCEY DEVEGA, APRIL 7, 2020 11:00AM (UTC)

If that is the worst you got against me, I made a greater point against your argument, than the minor point you made against mine.

Trump is not dividing America. The left-wing media is by reporting fake news and getting people like you to believe it and fight against people who are getting the real news. Try broadening your horizons.

jazz_music says

The tax cuts for the rich.

Not just for the rich. He gave a middle class tax cut too. Also he is trying to bring middle class jobs back to this country after the globalist in DC sold our country out to China. Low paid jobs at Walmart became the norm during many Democratic administrations including Obama and Clinton, but to be fair, also Bush.

It'll drop to 20 or 30K after they finally eliminate all of the false attributions (well after the election, of course, after which Covid 19 will evaporate from the press).

They'll give Covid 19 a star on the CIA wall for performing its noble duty for the Deep State on Trump and the economy before disappearing from sight and mind.

I think this is just an unwanted side effect that Patrick could look into. Otherwise there is no censorship AFAIK unless it's breaking the law (such as direct threats or child porn, copyright violation etc.). Patrick is already incurring quite a risk by running it since unscrupulous companies and attorneys can and will try to extort money by sending bogus copyright and other claims. One other thing was added was a direct insult instead of focusing on the issue or attacking a broader group instead. This has been controversial but there used to be people in shouting matches just insulting each other - it seems it has gotten more civil since then. Otherwise this is as close to free speech as it can get.