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FuckCCP89 says

What would you do if clerk called you out on it?

I would have feigned surprise and used another bill.

My counterfeit was only a dollar bill. I think I've run across two of them. It just felt wrong.

FuckCCP89 says

Escalate to the point of police arriving to the scene and then resisting arrest? It makes no sense to any sane person who's made an honest mistake. Or semi-honest, as in your case.

Is that what happened?

I certainly wouldn't have escalated it and I would have used another bill. But I would like the original bill that I was told was counterfeit to be returned.

NoCoupForYou says

Was your bloodstream at 4x the level of fentanyl that would kill an ordinary person, plus speed? OK a monster Speedball dose? While you were trying to get rid of a counterfeit bill?

"Holy shit, an almost 50 year old man on a speedball, after physical exertion, had a heart attack while police were restraining him. The Police are responsible for killing him!"

I don't trust the government not to lie when it is in their advantage to lie.

Did Jeffrey Epstein kill himself?

That's your government.

richwicks says

Is that what happened?

I certainly wouldn't have escalated it and I would have used another bill. But I would like the original bill that I was told was counterfeit to be returned.

As I understand he tried to buy a pack of cigarettes with $20 and when called out on it being counterfeit refused to exchange back. The details will be revealed in court, I'm sure.

But think about it: a guy with drugs in his system and criminal record longer than his arm weighs the downside of not being able to buy a pack of cigs (or even losing $20) against encounter with police, choses the latter and then escalates by refusing to exit his car. How the fuck is this sane?

richwicks says

FuckCCP89 says

What would you do if clerk called you out on it?

I would have feigned surprise and used another bill.

Exactly. Sane choices vs insane choices.

richwicks says

I've hit a counterfeit note or two in my time, I think. You know what I did with it?

I spent it.

I wouldn't advertise that, even on an anonymous forum.

FuckCCP89 says

richwicks says

Is that what happened?

I certainly wouldn't have escalated it and I would have used another bill. But I would like the original bill that I was told was counterfeit to be returned.

As I understand he tried to buy a pack of cigarettes with $20 and when called out on it being counterfeit refused to exchange back.

I didn't know that happened - that is if that happened. If he did indeed do that, clearly he is a criminal who knew he was passing off a fake bill.

Regardless, this Floyd was handcuffed, didn't pose a threat to the officers and didn't need to have somebody knee in their throat. He didn't appear to do much resisting either. I think the police used excessive force, and killed the man by accident or maybe even intentionally.

Ceffer says

richwicks says

I've hit a counterfeit note or two in my time, I think. You know what I did with it?

I spent it.

I wouldn't advertise that, even on an anonymous forum.

It was literally a dollar bill.

And I don't know if it was counterfeit or not. I think I have run across two of them in my lifetime.

I never MADE the bill either.

richwicks says

He didn't appear to do much resisting either

Enough to make loading hime into the car impossible. So they used non-deadly force option as prescribed by MPD manual.

Even if my veins were loaded with drugs and I was high as a kite, I wouldn't press the issue with the clerk. I'd be like, Damn, that's my only bill, sorry man, oh well, and get my ass back off the street as fast as possible. I also wouldn't be driving.

Deja Vu.

NoCoupForYou says

However, he's also convicted for using a gun in a robbery, and that makes him a thug.

I'm translating these other charges now.

November 2007, Aggravated Robbery with Deadly Weapon - this is him holding up the Pregnant Woman at gunpoint like the wonderful loving person everybody says he is.
His December 2005 Possession Charge was for more than 4 Grams of an Opiate, Meth, or Ketamine. Given his autopsy, probably Fetanyl.
He has several other PG1s over the years.
Multiple Thefts, also.

This is ONLY Texas. He may very well have records elsewhere or in Minnesota.

Serious question: are you a lawyer?

WineHorror1 says

Serious question: are you a lawyer?

Nope, but you don't need to be a Lawyer to the Google what "PG" means as it relates to a criminal charge.

https://bennettandbennett.com/our-practice/drug-offenses/texas-drug-penalty-groups/

richwicks says

but what was his last crime?

Allegedly trying to pass off a counterfeit bill. From CNN:

The 46-year-old man died Monday night after an officer held him pinned to the ground with a knee on his neck.

The encounter began Monday around 8 p.m. when an employee at the Cup Foods convenience store called police to say that a customer later identified as Floyd had tried to use a counterfeit $20 bill to buy cigarettes.

marcus says

Deja Vu.

Yep, it's like all those other cases: Rodney King (PCP), Brown (Robbed convenience store for blunts, got high, Punched Wilson), Trayvon Martin (high on Lean/Sizzurp, ambushed Zimmerman with a piece of Curb), Eric Garner (major league aggressive asshole, got himself fired from a cushy Parks job for fighting with coworkers).

Media makes it look like it was some dude just minding their own business, turns out they were high and/or criminal past, and in process of criminal behavior

richwicks says

It was literally a dollar bill.

Nobody counterfeit's ones.

A bunch of surfers near one of my surf spots did a paddle out to honor this guy this week.
https://fox5sandiego.com/news/local-news/paddle-out-at-moonlight-beach-honors-george-floyd/

Upside down world.

Anecdotal only, but my apolitical to left leaning wife and a few of her girlfriends are absolutely shocked and sickened by all of the riots and prostrating over Floyd.

NoCoupForYou says

WineHorror1 says

Serious question: are you a lawyer?

Nope, but you don't need to be a Lawyer to the Google what "PG" means as it relates to a criminal charge.

https://bennettandbennett.com/our-practice/drug-offenses/texas-drug-penalty-groups/

I wasn't trying to bust your chops. I was hoping you were a lawyer.

WineHorror1 says

I wasn't trying to bust your chops. I was hoping you were a lawyer.

Nope, disappointment to Judaism: Neither Doctor nor Lawyer.

I’m not in favor of cops kneeling on a guy’s neck, but I wasn’t there.

But, he didn’t die of asphyxiation.

Tonight in Santa Cruz I saw a ton of cars honking with signs, an organized protest by car.

I looked over at one honking, a young blond female in a Prius.

If she went for a walk at night in Riviera Beach Florida she would not last long before she was scooped up and gangbanged in some crack house by guys who “could be Obama’s son.” If she were lucky she’d survive it.

clambo says

But, he didn’t die of asphyxiation.

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They said his heart stopped, possibly because he couldn't breathe? That would be asphyxiation.

NoCoupForYou says

WineHorror1 says

I wasn't trying to bust your chops. I was hoping you were a lawyer.

Nope, disappointment to Judaism: Neither Doctor nor Lawyer.

Lol, my mom wanted a doctor and a lawyer. I got into medical school but couldn't bear to sign for the loans. Just wasn't into it. My brother is a lawyer, so she got some of what she wanted.

Have you all seen the article that claims that Floyd and the cop both worked security at the same Latin dance club?

If so, they must have known each other.

Patrick says

Have you all seen the article that claims that Floyd and the cop both worked security at the same Latin dance club?

If so, they must have known each other.

Agreed. Also, he may have known that "Mr. Turned his Life Around from Pointing a Gun at a Pregnant Woman in front of her Child" had fallen off the wagon.

I won't be surprised if we find out the bouncer lost his job in the recent past, before the incident.

richwicks says

I've hit a counterfeit note or two in my time, I think. You know what I did with it?

I spent it.

I didn't create the fake note, so why should I get stuck with it?

Last time I had one, I did what Archie told george jefferson to do...I passed it at AL'S USED CARS where the sell purple cadillacs to the bruh's.

NoCoupForYou says

WineHorror1 says

I wasn't trying to bust your chops. I was hoping you were a lawyer.

Nope, disappointment to Judaism: Neither Doctor nor Lawyer.

What?!! Your jewish parents must be have disowned you.

Not too bad. I became an "Account Manager", same as Jewish Grandpa, Uncle, and Irish Cousins.

Irish-Jew combo gives me Skill Level 5 in Gab.

richwicks says

I've hit a counterfeit note or two in my time, I think. You know what I did with it?

God knows the Fed prints enough of them. I have held and counted a lot of money in a former career and never came across an authentic fake bill.

Maybe George Floyd was a misunderstood man that was on the straight and narrow and was victimized by someone who gave him a fake $20. His victimization went further when he was apprehended by the police and arrested. We don't know what went down before the awful video of a human being slowly being choked to death.

No excuse for brutal, bully cops. No excuse for lawless victimizing thugs.

He was a bouncer for some club before the covid. He also dabbled in gangster rap as "Big Floyd"

https://www.youtube.com/embed/zTzEk9q7Hm0

NoCoupForYou says

Yep, it's like all those other cases:

It's called blame the victim. OF course it's what you do. There's no problem. He deserved it.

Patrick says

Have you all seen the article that claims that Floyd and the cop both worked security at the same Latin dance club?

If so, they must have known each other.

Apparently Floyd worked inside security and the other guy worked outside, it is possible that they never talked to each other according to the club owner.

Did you hear that two of the other officers were basically trainees with essentially no experience?

That doesn’t excuse police brutality but it does give insight into their poor decisions.

socal2 says

A bunch of surfers near one of my surf spots did a paddle out to honor this guy this week.

"to celebrate George Floyd’s life and take a stand for change."

What a life to celebrate!

8 minutes and 46 seconds of silence--I'll bet that got boring after 8 seconds.

The fact that he was a thug does not justify killing him. Just fucking pepper-spray or taser him if he resists and book his ass. Also, one thing that escapes many people is that cop and Floyd knew each other as they worked security at the same place. May be Floyd banged cop's wife (she divorced quickly after shit hit the fan), or cop sold him fentanyl, or Floyd supplied drugs to cop? Any of that aggravates cop's crime.

That's an awful lot of assumption

Coroner's report said 70% arterial blockage, 48% heart enlarged over normal. Plus the fentanyl and amphetamines in his blood. As a physical struggle, and the heart attach. highly plausible.

Also, the neck restraint is in the MPD training and operations manual.

His thug past is. Indicator of the weight we should put On claims he wasn't resisting

That's an awful lot of assumption

Coroner's report said 70% arterial blockage, 48% heart enlarged over normal. Plus the fentanyl and amphetamines in his blood. As a physical struggle, and the heart attach. highly plausible.

Also, the neck restraint is in the MPD training and operations manual.

His thug past is. Indicator of the weight we should put On claims he wasn't resisting

Some more fun conspiracy theories: Floyd and asphalt lynching cop were involved in counterfeiting through the night club they worked for, and Floyd was 'executed' for getting greedy and tapping the counterfeit till putting the business in jeopardy.

The recent series of the detective show Bosch on Amazon outlines a night club that was passing counterfeit money, so 'TV show conspiracy theory transfer syndrome'?
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1265818/pg1

All this exchange to discuss Saint George Floyd? (watch a replay of the funeral where he was practically canonized postmortem.)
Very quickly the mob saw a wonderful opportunity to turn their “grief” into lootIng, destroyIng buildings, and stealing which, in reality, was what the mob really wanted.

(watch a replay of the funeral when SAINT GEORGE FLOYD was canonized)

Following is the note I sent to Fox News this morning when the Atlanta’s mob finally had its chance to riot, loot, destroy, burn and they were busy working at it:

FOX NEWS:
Re: Atlanta: I know I am indeed populating your email. The rules of the game have changed: Currently, If you don’t allow black people to loot, rob, destroy and burn, you are a racist. If you punish them for killing a police officer, you are A RACIST.
If they provoke a brutal confrontation (see the news you are broadcasting about Atlanta) and one Black man is killed, it’s a holiday looting day or week for them “in loving memory of their deceased brother.“
They defend their lawlessness under the racist ACE CARD and for fear of being called RACISTS, the state and federal governments are happily and cowardly relinquishing command to the mob. I stated it in a previous message to you: As in the French Revolution, the whole bunch of inept government idiots will be decapitated (figure of speech) and the RACIST unrest will spread all over the country like the virus. The police force MUST GO ON STRIKE. LET’S WATCH THE DEMOLITION THAT WILL ENSUE. THE COUNTRY WILL
BE RUINED, PULVERIZED, DEMOLISHED. THEY WILL STOP AT NOTHING AND THE GOVERNMENT WILL GET WHAT IT DESERVES: DECAPITATION.
I was born in a country where there were constant revolutions, tanks against the mob, machine guns, army at the ready and they, the subversive communist agitators were quickly put in their place. No questions asked. No country in the world is afraid of the mob except the United States. Shame on us.

Both St. George and the newly-sainted Athlanta Wendy's guy were DUI in addition to all their other good deeds.

FuckCCP89 says

Both St. George and the newly-sainted Athlanta Wendy's guy were DUI in addition to all their other good deeds.

I don't understand the Atlanta one. Heard the guys attorney on the news this morning. Said the dude taking the taser or whatever it was, had a none lethal weapon. WTF? You took a weapon of some sort, from an officer who then also has a gun attached to their belt. You tase him, grab his gun and shoot him dead. Lethal force was 100% necessary in that case. They'll try, but you cannot spin that one to educated, normal people.

Next news story will be about a black man getting handcuffed too harshly after murdering someone.

WookieMan says

FuckCCP89 says

Both St. George and the newly-sainted Athlanta Wendy's guy were DUI in addition to all their other good deeds.

I don't understand the Atlanta one. Heard the guys attorney on the news this morning. Said the dude taking the taser or whatever it was, had a none lethal weapon. WTF? You took a weapon of some sort, from an officer who then also has a gun attached to their belt. You tase him, grab his gun and shoot him dead. Lethal force was 100% necessary in that case. They'll try, but you cannot spin that one to educated, normal people.

Next news story will be about a black man getting handcuffed too harshly after murdering someone.

Moreover, Taser is not classified as a "non-lethal" weapon. It's "less lethal".

FuckCCP89 says

Moreover, Taser is not classified as a "non-lethal" weapon. It's "less lethal".

Exactly. I thought maybe I took some crazy pills. The dude took a fucking taster (EDIT - I'm leaving it cause it's funny... taser) and could drop the cop to the ground, grab his gun and shoot him in the face. If you have the authority to carry a gun and taser, and someone takes the taser, I'm going to shoot you before you tase me. Is this not common sense? Cop or not.

This isn't the case like Chicago where the dip shit was shot 16 times. He was shot twice and all the headlines are pointing out it that he was shot in the back. He had a fucking taser. Shoot him wherever.

This shit is getting out of control. The dude was fucking drunk at a Wendy's. You're a loser and this is coming from someone that likes to pound beers. I've never ended up passed out at a fucking Wendy's and then decided to grab a taser from a fucking cop. Wait.... maybe I did take crazy pills.

WookieMan says

I thought maybe I took some crazy pills.

You didn't. In fact, yesterday I've used almost exactly the same words explaining to my BIL why the narrative about "he was fleeing with some platic toy in hand" is false and the shooting was justified.