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marcus saysI think it's probably mostly the latter.
Maybe, but its spreading amongst healthier people...rather than the targeted nursing home attacks from the northeastern death-dealing governors.
A common cold virus can have a death rate as high as 8% inside a nursing home
Wouldn't it be accurate to say if the numbers (deaths alone) are correct, that it's now the worst it has been ?
Wouldn't it be accurate to say if the numbers (deaths alone) are correct, that it's now the worst it has been ?
Also this wave wasn’t deliberately seeded into the nursing homes where the absolute most vulnerable reside. Maybe they’ve all been moved by now?
marcus saysWouldn't it be accurate to say if the numbers (deaths alone) are correct, that it's now the worst it has been ?
This is California’s second wave, and it’s about four times as large. I’m hearing about many people I know who have it. Better treatments have led to better outcomes with the infected. Also this wave wasn’t deliberately seeded into the nursing homes where the absolute most vulnerable reside. Maybe they’ve all been moved by now?
In the first wave you didn’t know anyone with Covid, but oldsters were dying.
Now everyone else is getting it. It’s nothing to fear. Get you some HCQ and a steroid asthma inhaler and get some rest and you’ve got a 99.9% chance of not being hospitalized.
Shaman saysAlso this wave wasn’t deliberately seeded into the nursing homes where the absolute most vulnerable reside. Maybe they’ve all been moved by now?
I have no close relatives in nursing homes, but if I had I would absolutely move them into my home and hired a private nurse to look after them. I suspect many people did just that.
I know 4 people who now lost parents. Here's the problem. Our asshole governor in NJ sent infected patients straight into the nursing homes they were in. All of these people are in their late 40s to early 50s with parents 80+ years old. Presumably, on a percentage basis, my guess is 15% of my coworkers contracted it. Nobody died. It's very clear who is at risk here and we should do all we can to protect them outside of fucking shutting down society...which is the only things governments seem to want to do.
This was totally mishandled. And those governors have the gall to attack the federal response
You'd be surprised. There were many people here in NJ calling up the radio or going to the news saying how scared they were for their mother in the nursing home. Meanwhile, they have 5 siblings that all live local and they are too lazy to figure out how to take care of them.
Cognitive Dissonance:
Cognitive Dissonance: The motivational mechanism that underlies the reluctance to admit mistakes or accept scientific findings
Cognitive Dissonance: The motivational mechanism that underlies the reluctance to admit mistakes or accept scientific findings—even when those findings can save our lives. This dynamic is playing out during the pandemic among the many people who refuse to wear masks or practice social distancing. Human beings are deeply unwilling to change their minds. And when the facts clash with their preexisting convictions, some people would sooner jeopardize their health and everyone else’s than accept new information or admit to being wrong.
It's not good, but it's hardly a horrible catastrophe either
Human beings are deeply unwilling to change their minds. And when the facts clash with their preexisting convictions, some people would sooner jeopardize their health and everyone else’s than accept new information or admit to being wrong.
Eric Holder saysIt's not good, but it's hardly a horrible catastrophe either
Okay, you can spin it, share your conspiracy based "reasoning" saying they must be lying. I'm just looking at the data which says that the average of the past week (new deaths) in California appears to be about 40% higher than any week since this started.
I get from you mell and others that you want to just dismiss this.
TD is right.
thomasdong1776 saysHuman beings are deeply unwilling to change their minds. And when the facts clash with their preexisting convictions, some people would sooner jeopardize their health and everyone else’s than accept new information or admit to being wrong.
OR maybe you are. But wanting to be right doesn't tell anyone much about whether you are.
I'm just looking at the data which says that the average of the past week (new deaths) in California appears to be about 40% higher than any week since this started.
OR maybe you are right. But wanting to be right doesn't tell anyone much about whether you are. Let's see what the next week looks like.
marcus saysOR maybe you are right. But wanting to be right doesn't tell anyone much about whether you are. Let's see what the next week looks like.
Marcus, if private employees get laid off without pay and only unemployment, shouldn't the same happen to teachers if schools stay closed?
Or are teachers more equal than others?
Note: Two days of virtual classes and three days of self-directed homework at home != 5 days of instruction.
But then again all they "learn" these days is systemic racism. Who needs math.
380 deaths with Covid yesterday. How is this newsworthy? Roughly 7700 Americans died each day in 2017. This is 5% of the daily pie. Seriously this is getting ludicrous.
A god damn tsunami can cause more carnage in 3 hours..... We should move everyone inland 20 miles immediately.
Or if you are the Gov of NY, just move all the old people to live in tents on a sand bar when a hurricane is forecast.
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"Cases" mean nothing at all now that we know they were adding in antibody tests, meaning people who may have been exposed months ago, and not even gotten sick.