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Flatten the Curve


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2020 Jul 15, 3:31am   29,589 views  720 comments

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As the numbers of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths surge to record levels in multiple epicenters, local and state officials are struggling with whether and how much to reverse the rollback of restrictions on individuals and businesses. For example, following a gradual reopening over about a month, on Monday, California Gov. Gavin Newsom announced the reintroduction of statewide restrictions that would again shut down bars, all indoor dining, family entertainment, zoos and museums following a surge in coronavirus cases. The governors of Florida, Texas, and Arizona, all now epicenters of infection, have also slowed or reversed reopening, but their actions have been tepid. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is even insisting on opening schools in the face of record-high numbers of infections.

These officials would do well to recall the observation of The Great One. No, not Dr. Tony Fauci of the National Institutes of Health—the other one, hockey legend Wayne Gretzky, who once explained, “I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been.”

Anticipating what’s coming is important in confronting an infectious disease, especially one whose dynamics are what many infectious disease experts consider their worst nightmare. COVID-19 is highly infectious, has a lengthy incubation period (during which asymptomatic infected persons can unwittingly shed virus and infect other people), and causes serious, sometimes fatal illness.

Those unusual characteristics of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which causes COVID-19, and the idiosyncrasies and spectrum of presentations of the illness—from pulmonary symptoms (including pneumonia and pulmonary fibrosis) to a range of non-respiratory manifestations, (including loss of sense of smell or taste, confusion and cognitive impairments, fainting, sudden muscle weakness or paralysis, seizures, ischemic strokes, kidney damage, and, rarely, a severe pediatric inflammatory syndrome) mean that we are on a steep learning curve.

The problem is: if we react too slowly to changing circumstances, we can fall off a metaphorical cliff.

There’s an old brain teaser that perfectly illustrates this point. Consider a pond of a certain size, on which there is a single lily pad. This particular species of lily pad reproduces and duplicates itself once a day, so that on day 2, you have two lily pads. On day 3, you have four; on day 4, you have eight; and so on. Here’s the teaser: if it takes the lily pads 48 days to cover the pond completely, how long will it take for the pond to be covered halfway?

The answer? 47 days. In just 24 hours, between day 47 and day 48, the lily pads would double in size and overtake the pond. Moreover, on day 40, the pond would still appear to be relatively clear; just eight days from the pond being completely covered, you’d hardly know the lily pads were there.

If the same thing happens with a virulent and highly contagious infectious agent, like the SARS-CoV-2 virus, you don’t know you’re in trouble until you wake up one morning to find that you’re overwhelmed. Like the lily pad example, the daily number of confirmed COVID-19 cases in the U.S. was 18,577 on June 15th—just three weeks later, on July 10th, the number had shot up to 66,281.

Dr. Anthony Fauci
Dr. Anthony Fauci

FLATTENING THE CURVE TO BEAT THE IMPENDING CLIFF

From early in the pandemic, the public health mantra worldwide has been: “flatten the curve.” That important concept, which was in vogue several months ago, seems largely forgotten today.

In the above graphic from the University of Michigan, the blue curve is the viral equivalent of the lily pads, suddenly covering the pond. It represents a large number of people (shown on the vertical axis) becoming infected over a short time (horizontal axis), and, in turn, overwhelming our health care system with people who need hospitalization, or even an Intensive Care Unit (ICU).

People won’t shop for non-essentials, fly, go to restaurants, theaters, and athletic events, or send their kids to school, when numbers of new cases are soaring.

If, however, political officials, individuals, and communities take steps to slow the virus’s spread, the cases of COVID-19 will stretch out across a more extended period, as depicted by the flatter, yellow curve. As long as the number of cases at any given time doesn’t bleed past the dotted line marking the capacity of our nation’s health care system, we’ll be able to accommodate everyone who is very sick.

Curve-flattening has fallen out of focus in recent months, in part because some political leaders reopened too aggressively and prematurely, basing policy on their constituents’ “pandemic fatigue,” instead of on the advice of epidemiologists and infectious disease experts.

But it’s still critical to avoid the pattern of the blue curve, not only to spare hospitals and ICUs—which are especially under stress in parts of Arizona, Florida, and Texas—but also so that we can continue the gradual reopening of the nation’s businesses and schools. Reopening relies on curve-flattening. As the NIH’s Dr. Tony Fauci says frequently, public health and economic considerations are not in opposition but are opposite sides of the same coin; we can’t fully restart and resume commerce until the pandemic is under some measure of control. People won’t shop for non-essentials, fly, go to restaurants, theaters, and athletic events, or send their kids to school, when numbers of new cases are soaring.

That means we need to start anticipating and stop playing catch-up—as the governors of Florida, Arizona, and Texas have been doing, relying on a combination of magical thinking, Happy Talk, and too-little-too-late remedies, instead of aggressive, evidence-based public health policies.

Arizona Governor Doug Ducey, for instance, has offered no strategy for blunting the spike in COVID-19 cases other than to keep repeating that there were enough hospital beds to treat those who fall ill. And yet, ICU beds and ventilators in use by suspected and confirmed COVID-19 patients in Arizona both hit new records on July 12th and were under stress, according to data reported by hospitals to the state.

On July 10th, a physicians group gathered outside Florida Governor DeSantis’s mansion in Tallahassee to urge him to issue an order mandating the use of face masks statewide, which arguably should have been done months ago. Masks have long been considered essential to slowing the spread of COVID-19, but, inexplicably, the Governor resisted. And only on July 10th did Texas Governor Greg Abbott finally mandate the wearing of face masks, and demand the prohibition of large gatherings and the closing of bars across the state.

Elected officials must heed Wayne Gretzky’s admonition and stay ahead of the coronavirus, in order to lower its rate of transmission. That’s the only way to slow the rise of new cases.

Evidence-based policies, such as requiring masks in public, prohibiting large indoor gatherings, and indoor dining at restaurants, are important. But as we’ve seen with California, even aggressive imposition of those kinds of strictures has not been sufficient—in large part because many people, especially younger ones, have failed to comply. As California allowed businesses and public places to reopen, bars, boardwalks, and beaches became crowded with large numbers of maskless patrons. It’s no wonder, then, that as of July 13th, hospitals in the state reported a 27.8% increase in hospitalized patients over the previous 14 days and a 19.9% increase in ICU patients over that same period. In fact, as a result of noncompliance, many local governments in the Golden State have had to coordinate with law enforcement agencies to issue citations and explore civil alternatives through code enforcement, environmental health, or other local government personnel.

Of course, the need for heightened consequences for noncompliance is unfortunate, but it will help to re-flatten the curve. That will spread out the demands on hospitals, which must have sufficient space, supplies, and healthy staff to care for all those who need hospital-level care—whether for COVID-19, a stroke, trauma, emergency surgery, or childbirth. It’s strong, but necessary, medicine—which possibly could have been avoided with more intense efforts to get the public to comply with wearing masks, social distancing, and frequent hand-washing.

If politicians properly understood their role in flattening the curve, they wouldn’t have to resort to policing and ticketing. They would instead launch a tsunami of public service announcements from all manner of dignitaries and celebrities, including prominent politicians, actors, rock stars, and athletes—maybe even The Great One himself—demonstrating how we can anticipate instead of falling behind the curve.

That non-coercive strategy could be a winner.


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Henry I. Miller, M.S., M.D.
Henry I. Miller, a physician and molecular biologist, is a Senior Fellow at the Pacific Research Institute. He was the founding director of the FDA’s Office of Biotechnology.


https://humanevents.com/2020/07/14/flattening-the-curve-is-still-the-right-answer/

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190   mell   2020 Jul 26, 3:33pm  

MrEd says
If all the dumbfucks wore masks when appropriate you'd be singing the hallelujah chorus today at the church of chouce.
Onvacation says
What about shutting down businesses, schools, and churches?


That's a dangerous precedent to force "dumbfucks" to use masks just because they could spread a respiratory virus to you. With this logic you could advocate forced sterilization of most people in ghettos as they're adding to the chance of ending your life with criminal offsprings. We have never legalized preemptive minority report style actions based on probabilities. And for a good reason. The lockdowns and forced muzzle 'edicts' are unconstitutional and blatant government overreach. You can always wear a hazmat suit/mask to protect yourself when traveling or going to church instead of restricting the freedom of others.
191   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 3:33pm  

MrEd says
church of chouce.

Never heard of that one. What do they believe in?

Tell me how Covid-19 is different from all the other viruses from China that requires healthy people to mask and quarantine this time?

Not expecting a cogent answer.
192   SoTex   2020 Jul 26, 3:35pm  

Onvacation says
You do know Corona is a cold, don'tcha?


lol, yes, cold viruses are corona viruses. technically.
193   SoTex   2020 Jul 26, 3:36pm  

mell says
That's a dangerous precedent to force "dumbfucks"


Lovely attitude these people have eh?
194   SoTex   2020 Jul 26, 3:37pm  

If everybody:

MrEd says
wore masks when appropriate you'd be


still dealing with the coronavirus. Wrong end of the horse in that picture.
195   mell   2020 Jul 26, 3:42pm  

just_adhom_preaching says
mell says
That's a dangerous precedent to force "dumbfucks"


Lovely attitude these people have eh?


Absolutely. But what's insane is the cognitive dissonance. Don't know about Mr Ed but many of the lockdown and mask advocates are staunch blm and release criminals from prison and defund police supporters therefore endangering themselves and others quite significantly. I'd have a lesser problem if they were consistent and also advocate for law and order everywhere and preemptive strikes against criminals (even if I wouldn't advocate it). Or masks off and pro protests. Either way be consistent and lay off the TDS ;)
196   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 4:05pm  

Whose speech is being suppressed by wearing a mask? Did you buy a soundproof mask?
Onvacation says
MrEd says
This doesn't jive with the asymptomatic, and the symptomatic with a 7 day delay on symptoms.

So you think we MUST curtail the first amendment to cater to those who fear the cold?
197   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 4:08pm  

So you think it's ok for someone to walk through town square exhaling anthrax.
Hint: covid 19 is not your run of the mill "respiratory virus"
mell says
That's a dangerous precedent to force "dumbfucks" to use masks just because they could spread a respiratory virus to you
198   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 4:11pm  

MrEd says
Whose speech is being suppressed by wearing a mask? Did you buy a soundproof mask?
Onvacation says
MrEd says
This doesn't jive with the asymptomatic, and the symptomatic with a 7 day delay on symptoms.

So you think we MUST curtail the first amendment to cater to those who fear the cold?

The 1st is about more than just speech. Read this:
https://constitution.com/bill-rights/
199   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 4:16pm  

MrEd says
So you think it's ok for someone to walk through town square exhaling anthrax.

Really?

Anthrax is not contagious, which means you can’t catch it like the cold or flu.

Come up with a better analogy to entertain us.
200   SoTex   2020 Jul 26, 4:18pm  

snicker snicker...
201   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 4:19pm  

MrEd says
covid 19 is not your run of the mill "respiratory virus"

True. It doesn't kill kids and many people get it and recover without ever knowing they had it.

Asymptomatic means not sick.
203   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 5:26pm  

Doesnt change the analogy as written. To exhale anthrax one only needs to take a cheech type hit from an anthrax laced baggie, then exhale .
Wheres your imagination?
Try to keep up.
Onvacation says
MrEd says
So you think it's ok for someone to walk through town square exhaling anthrax.

Really?

Anthrax is not contagious, which means you can’t catch it like the cold or flu.

Come up with a better analogy to entertain us.
204   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 5:27pm  

Try to keep up.
just_adhom_preaching says
snicker snicker...
205   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 5:28pm  

Kids have died from covid19.
Try to keep up.
Onvacation says
It doesn't kill kids
206   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 5:30pm  

All true.
Good for you!
Onvacation says
many people get it and recover without ever knowing they had it.

Asymptomatic means not sick.
207   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 5:33pm  

Been there done that
Feel free to quote the section you feel is being violated.

Onvacation says
The 1st is about more than just speech. Read this:
https://constitution.com/bill-rights/
208   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 5:36pm  

If it is in the air and you breathe it in, you've 'caught' it
OnVacation says
Anthrax is not contagious, which means you can’t catch it like the cold or flu.
209   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 5:46pm  

MrEd says
one only needs to take a cheech type hit from an anthrax laced baggie,

You first. Stop being ridiculous.
210   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 5:50pm  

MrEd says
Kids have died from covid19.


Please provide link. Anecdote accepted.

The flu has killed lots of kids but we have never shut down schools because of the annual flu.
211   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 5:51pm  

Ya know, right wingers have a reputation for being tough gun toting biker riding badasses
Whixh makes it even more funny when so many shit their pants over having to put a hanky over their nose for so many minutes a day to help give granny a couple more years to exist.
Maybe granny beat the shit out of them decades ago, nurturing their path into bikerhood? Payback?
212   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 5:53pm  

Read my analogy. Where did i imply they caught anthrax?
Onvacation says

MrEd says
one only needs to take a cheech type hit from an anthrax laced baggie,

You first. Stop being ridiculous.
213   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 5:53pm  

MrEd says
Whixh makes it even more funny when so many shit their pants over having to put a hanky over their nose

So ya got nothing.

Thanks for playing.
214   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 5:57pm  

So there you have it. It's not science but emotion that the leftists are using; " Wear your mask or you might kill grandma or her grandkids".
215   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 5:58pm  

Why use anecdotes when the real thing will do?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/5-year-old-dallas-boy-dies-from-covid-19/amp/
Onvacation says
MrEd says
Kids have died from covid19.


Please provide link. Anecdote accepted.
218   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 6:00pm  

Im sorry did you prefer an anecdote instead?
219   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 6:00pm  

MrEd says
Why use anecdotes when the real thing will do?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/5-year-old-dallas-boy-dies-from-covid-19/amp/
Onvacation says
MrEd says
Kids have died from covid19.


Please provide link. Anecdote accepted.

Proves my point. People who die from covid-19 have comorbidities.
220   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 6:18pm  

This post has diagnosed the meat and potatoes of the situation we find ourselves in.
Mask deniers can put forth all the offbeat arguments they can think up, but the proof is in the pudding. Countries with low to nonexistant covid cases have all implemented successful mask wearing with social distancing. No vaccines or medical miracles needed.
IF THE LITTLE FUCKER CANT MOVE FROM HOST TO HOST IT WILL DIE OUT WITHIN WEEKS.
BUT THIS ONLY WORKS IF EVERYBODY WEARS THE FUCKIN MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCES.
Now, the only reason anyone would not comply is because they like the death and destruction.
And the only reason they feel this way is because granny really did beat the shit out of them during their childhood.
If they are as tough as they say they are, they need to get over....ahhh their pussys, fergettaboutit..
prodigy says

www.youtube.com/embed/RkB0k81oNiI
221   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 6:21pm  

CDC thinks opening schools will save children:

the harms attributed to closed schools on the social, emotional, and behavioral health, economic well-being, and academic achievement of children, in both the short- and long-term, are well-known and significant. Further, the lack of in-person educational options disproportionately harms low-income and minority children and those living with disabilities. These students are far less likely to have access to private instruction and care and far more likely to rely on key school-supported resources like food programs, special education services, counseling, and after-school programs to meet basic developmental needs.[4]

Aside from a child’s home, no other setting has more influence on a child’s health and well-being than their school. The in-person school environment does the following:

*provides educational instruction;
*supports the development of social and emotional skills;
*creates a safe environment for learning;
*addresses nutritional needs; and
*facilitates physical activity.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html

Very few children have dyed from covid-19. Almost all (probably all) that have have had comorbidities. According to the CDC 236 school age kids have dyed from covid-19, including college age kids. They don't list comorbidities these kids may have suffered
222   Tenpoundbass   2020 Jul 26, 6:22pm  

The Bogus Rona Data is more flawed than the Al Gore Global Warming Data, and just as cooked up.
It's almost as bad as the more than two Gender argument I mean data.
223   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 6:23pm  

MrEd says
Still waiting for your constitutional infringement sentence.
Do you have anything?

Religion and peaceable assembly.
224   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 6:26pm  

MrEd says
Appears mask deniers have neither.

You can always spot a branch covidian. They wear masks outside and in their cars, even if there is no one within 6 yards of them.
225   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 6:28pm  

MrEd says
IF THE LITTLE FUCKER CANT MOVE FROM HOST TO HOST IT WILL DIE OUT WITHIN WEEKS.
BUT THIS ONLY WORKS IF EVERYBODY WEARS THE FUCKIN MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCES.

By this logic we will have to mask and social distance forever.
226   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 6:31pm  

No more sports. No more concerts. No more school.
Life is dangerous. Those afraid of living should mask up and self quarantine. It's for your own good.
227   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 6:33pm  

@MrEd thanks for the civil debate. I learn a lot here on patnet. I hope you do too.
228   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 6:52pm  

Yeah usually it's blue #7 or Red#9
Onvacation says
Very few children have dyed from covid-19.
229   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 6:54pm  

I agree, because it'll be a cold day in hell before 165 million people agree with the other 165mil.
Onvacation says
MrEd says
IF THE LITTLE FUCKER CANT MOVE FROM HOST TO HOST IT WILL DIE OUT WITHIN WEEKS.
BUT THIS ONLY WORKS IF EVERYBODY WEARS THE FUCKIN MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCES.

By this logic we will have to mask and social distance forever.

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