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Apple stock and other Chinese outsources went way up today.

Now that China will get it's way in all manners of trade, rich elites will rake in the profits and the working class will face serious unemployment. Good on you if you own such stocks, or have a defined benefit government pension.

WookieMan says

Why do they stop working on ballots overnight in some of these states? Checked some results at 1:30am CT and they haven't changed at all by 5:55am CT. Millions of Americans have to work overnights to make ends meet. These state governments can't just get shit done. Obvious shenanigans at this point. You work until the job is done when electing POTUS and Congress.

Because they needed time to strategize on stealing the election. If they kept counting, Trump would have won.

What a shitshow. I am willing to bet that we won't have a clear winner by friday.

The coincidence that it's two Dem controlled rustbelt states having 'problems' counting mail-in ballots where Trump is extremely popular with the working class but the lumpenprole city had very low turnout, isn't one.

One large state is possibly ineptitude. Two large states is shennanigans.

It's skulldruggery.

Call it the Burnt Sienna Revolution

epitaph says

What a shitshow. I am willing to bet that we won't have a clear winner by friday.

total shitshow.....lawyers are going to make a killing on this

NoCoupForYou says

Because they needed time to strategize on stealing the election. If they kept counting, Trump would have won.

This. That is why Trump should have had an injunction to stop the counting at Midnight, secure the ballot, then rationally process through the votes and not allow mysterious "boxes" to get added. Michigan was stolen for sure. WI he probably did really lose. But Biden has enough to go over the top.

Who cares how you vote. It is how they are counted that matters.

www.youtube.com/embed/OM4uF0AQig4

epitaph says

What a shitshow. I am willing to bet that we won't have a clear winner by friday.

You didn't expect this to be worse then Florida 2000?

zzyzzx says

You didn't expect this to be worse then Florida 2000?

I expect 20 years of technological advancement to account for something. But to address your point about Florida, I'm just surprised that the government workers there understand how the mail system works.

epitaph says

www.youtube.com/embed/OM4uF0AQig4

Why are ballots marked with sharpies being invalidated?

epitaph says

I expect 20 years of technological advancement to account for something.

Did you really expect government incompetence to be any less worse then 20 years ago? I mean a lot of this comes down to that.

zzyzzx says

Then there is the usual > 100% turnout locations (at least in previous elections, not sure about this one yet).

Small amount, but not sure how this happens. 100.4% ???

WookieMan says

Small amount, but not sure how this happens. 100.4% ???

On-the-spot new voter registration?

Well, I'm pretty sure this is going to drag on for a long time and I really don't know what will happen in the end.

The sudden appearance of a large number of 100% Biden ballots overnight is super-sketchy. What is needed now is proof of the fraud, like Nomograph says.

But whatever happens, I'm grateful that we at least had four years of a democratically elected president in spite of the best efforts of our owners to prevent it.

It's literally never over. Take the long view. Who will be the next president to actually be on the side of the people? There are some good possibilities out there.

Not a chance in hell my county was blue this year. Zero. I don't live in St. Clair, I'm outside Chicago, but I'm shocked at the overall results in IL The sentiment here is not what the results are showing. And after what I witnessed in person from the electioneer getting signatures has me questioning everything. The woman stuffs a signature card (whatever they're called from the polling book) in her pants after it was signed?? WTF.

Also at my polling place none of the normal characters were there. I know two of them well and they've been there for the 7 years I've lived here. I might message them and see WTF is up. IL was likely not in play, but there's no way it was double digits. I'm an elected official and IL isn't making sense to me.

FuckCCP89 says

On-the-spot new voter registration?

Good point. My polling place is tiny, but I didn't see any signage for new registration at mine. Unless that happens at another location.

I'm also not complaining. If Trump loses I was wrong. Oh well. Biden will be bad for us, but my kids are still young and I'm too old for war as well. Taxes will stay the same assuming the Senate stays the same. Either way POTUS is likely neutered this cycle anyway outside of EO's and SCOTUS (which is the biggest disappointment)

Does this mean the coloreds will stop rioting and looting?

Nomograph says

Here is a primer on why spurious accusations of voter fraud is bad for democracy.

Didn't the Democrats and the Media spend the last 4 years saying Trump won 2016 because of Russian meddling?

So kindly spare me the "bad for democracy" bullshit.

The stock market is up because it likes divided power so nothing gets done to interfere with Wall Street. I can live with that. The problem with this is that they should have set the rules before the election started, even postponing it if necessary. Fraud is difficult to prove but that run up from last night after counting simultaneously stopped in every state that matter where Trump had a big lead is statistically close to impossible. But again, they should have agreed on hard rules first, not complain later, both sides.

Suddenly, at 4AM, 130k votes were found in WI and they all went for Biden.

WookieMan says

zzyzzx says

Then there is the usual > 100% turnout locations (at least in previous elections, not sure about this one yet).

Small amount, but not sure how this happens. 100.4% ???

Isn’t .4% like 500 votes? If it’s fraud, That’s a huge amount. My guess is Govt worker error, but it’s worth looking into.

They locked Bannon's account early this morning, only just restored it.

Patrick says

The sudden appearance of a large number of 100% Biden ballots overnight is super-sketchy.

That one doesn't make sense to me at all. That's just impossible to find a place in the country where that many ballots from one county will come in without a single voter from another place. No such county exists simply.

So, looks like Trump is really winning Michigan, but the MSM will not report on it:

https://mielections.us/election/results/2020GEN_CENR.html

joshuatrio says

So, looks like Trump is really winning Michigan, but the MSM will not report on it:

https://mielections.us/election/results/2020GEN_CENR.html

Wow - tough to say which updates are newer but this seems like very recent, 30 minutes ago - but they are probing that spike where Biden got every vote in one county for "irregularities". MI may be in play.

Ok so that site has far fewer counts but it's updating every 10 minutes. If all the counts go like the MSM is reporting MI won't change but if this is a real recount of official count it could go differently. I find it problematic that the MSM are reporting counts that the official site hasn't counted yet.

Latest update https://mielections.us/election/results/2020GEN_CENR.html has a 250K vote lead for Trump but with far fewer votes counted, with 76/83 counties reporting. How can jo bi-den erase 300k votes as reported by the MSM?

MI is in play: https://mielections.us/election/results/2020GEN_CENR.html

This should be used as the source of truth rather than the MSM.

TrumpingTits says

God this whole election has been a cluster. I knew it would drag on, but the fuck. A typo??? How in 2020 is someone manually typing in data? Beating my dead horse here, but voter ID to vote needs to be a top 5 priority for Trump if he squeaks this out. This cannot happen again. Though the House won't play ball, so wishful thinking probably, unless they can get it back in 2022 and a Trump win.

I think Trump will win PA as he is so far ahead and if MI reverts the "over-count" he should win MI as well.

That still doesn't get Trump to 270. WI recount is needed.

krc says

That still doesn't get Trump to 270. WI recount is needed.

No - winning MI and PA will get him over 270. He had 306 in 2016 and lost AZ and WI which are 21 EC votes => 285.

If you were the Dem Gov of Wisconsin, why wouldn't you, like all other states, count the mail in and absentee ballots FIRST

That way, while the media is covering the election, you start looking HUGE for Biden because why they don't have the Smashmouth Coup 95% Biden ratio, they'd probably be 60% in favor of Democrats.

Almost every state, including Republican ones, front loaded the mail-ins and absentees right after the polls closed.

You wouldn't put them in at 4:30AM.

krc says

That still doesn't get Trump to 270. WI recount is needed.

There will be multiple recounts and ballot certification BS. Why all the ballots in 2020 with our tech haven't been counted by now is mind boggling. It's embarrassing. We're supposedly the torch bearer in the first world and this is what we get?

Elon Musk is landing unmanned rockets on tiny platforms coming down from high in the atmosphere and we can't get fucking election results. No wonder he wants to go to Mars and is so motivated to do so. This place is fucked.

Guys, if Trump wins MI and PA he is over 270.

PA is set for Biden to win. Even with a commanding lead I am sure the no signature, no address ballots are pouring in. That state was rigged from the beginning - so don't count on it. ABC took AZ back off the board.

mell says

I think Trump will win PA as he is so far ahead and if MI reverts the "over-count" he should win MI as well.

Agreed. I'm getting the (completely intuitive vibe) that Michigan Dems are getting cold feet about the whole thing.

Trump is indeed President for the next few months, and it's such a big hairy steal they may figure they're better off living to fight another day than risking imprisonment.

krc says

PA is set for Biden to win. Even with a commanding lead I am sure the no signature, no address ballots are pouring in. That state was rigged from the beginning - so don't count on it. ABC took AZ back off the board.

Trumps lead in PA is massive with 81% reported, over 400K. This would be contested, esp. if MI flips. Also he could win NV then PA won't matter if he wins MI. If MI turns out to be fraud, err, I mean fat fingered and he wins it's at least 50-50 again.

Nomograph says

Patrick says

The sudden appearance of a large number of 100% Biden ballots overnight

Where is the evidence for this?

@nomograph see https://patrick.net/post/1335743?440#comment-1709416

AZ call has been retracted. WTF this is going to be a slugfest.