patrick.net

NYT (of all places):

Arizona is a state with many permanent absentee voters, who automatically receive absentee ballots in the mail. Registered Republicans outnumber Democrats among these voters. This year, Democrats sent in their ballots extremely quickly, giving them a big lead in the early mail vote. But as a result, the voters who received mail ballots but had not yet returned them were overwhelmingly Republican. There was no way to know whether they would return their ballots or just vote on Election Day. But if they did mail in their ballots, the late count could at least conceivably break overwhelmingly for the president.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/05/upshot/arizona-election-call.html

Comments on NYT is fucking gold:

Deborah
Philadelphia2h ago
Times Pick

I will never forget McCain at his Town hall when he was running against Obama. A misinformed lady stood up and said that Obama was a Muslim. There’s nothing wrong with that but it wasn’t correct. McCain made a point to correct that lady and underscored it by saying that “ Obama is a good man”. I could never imagine a Republican candidate doing the same thing 2020.

Yeah, McCain called Obama "a good man" and was rewarded by donkeys calling him "unstable", "unpredictable", "warmonger", etc. He also lost that election.

I wonder why Republican candidates are not doing the same thing in 2020. Not!

Actually he needs 57% of the remaining AZ vote

NoCoupForYou says

Bannon and Brian Cates (Epoch Times) also suspended by Twitter - same time Bannon was pulled from Youtube. Collusion

That happened to me when I was watching it election night. Kicked me right out of youtube back into roku. I was able to restart it and it was there.

I just did a search and there is a war room video he posted 10 hours ago today. I guess that's not the one you were watching? I does end abruptly during some commercials though!

mell says

I'm in CA, I'm not sure whether it's worth risking civil war over this, given that this will be a lame duck presidency, even if bi-den wins.

Obviously conservatives won't start it. But if it happens, is there a better time than now?

just_adhom_preaching says

mell says

I'm in CA, I'm not sure whether it's worth risking civil war over this, given that this will be a lame duck presidency, even if bi-den wins.

Obviously conservatives won't start it. But if it happens, is there a better time than now?

If the watermark thing is true and they can thoroughly prove the fraud then the time would be now. Would be brilliant if they actually did this but how did they control the mail in ballot printing for each state..

No idea, the fact that the video is related to Alex Jones is super duper suspect.

just_adhom_preaching says

I just did a search and there is a war room video he posted 10 hours ago today. I guess that's not the one you were watching? I does end abruptly during some commercials though!

Right - I was watching the evening one live - they have a morning and evening show these past few days at least. It kicked me out with the "Community Opinion Policing" excuse. Happened a few minutes before the President went live.

Ep 578 478. I also notice that while today's morning episode hasn't been removed, another one has recently going by Episode number count.

just_adhom_preaching says

No idea, the fact that the video is related to Alex Jones is super duper suspect.

WRT to Alex Jones - I think he's a buffoon - but not all his guests are. When, in the rare instance, I tune into him, it's to listen to his guest - not him. He gives people platforms to speak that otherwise would not have it. He had Ron Paul on several times.

Jones is merely an entertainer, and he has obviously bullshit guests sometimes - like Robert David Steele - but he has worthwhile people on as well.

This is worldwide shame.
Voting in USA looks like voting in communist's country 50 years ago.

All should be in person, on computers. NO Ballots. Results of each voter from each county be downloaded to central computer, all ON LIVE.
One system for entire US. No every state "focus pocus".
10PM Pacific Time all be over up to the very singe vote.

We was sending people on moon long time ago, but cannot fix voting system. Shame, shame, shame.

FuckCCP89 says

If hosted in Amazon/Google/Msft cloud it stiil could be deplatformed

Right!

Never use Amazon/Google/MS for anything important.

Digital Ocean seems pretty good, and there are services around the world. Iceland in particular seems trustworthy.

REpro says

All should be in person, on computers. NO Ballots. Results of each voter from each county be downloaded to central computer, all ON LIVE.

With a receipt.

If Cash Machines can talk across dozens of bank networks, deal with 1000s of individual banks from Bank of China to Banco Republica Argentina to First Winnepesaukee Credit Union, get your the precise balance of money market, savings, or Checking accounts, dispense money and give you a receipt for the whole process anywhere on the ENTIRE PLANET...

Election machines/computers can certainly give you a printed paper receipt of your individual selection from only a few choices with only 2-3 options each. That's birth of industrial era card-punch loom technology.

So on the one hand we want our vote to be anonymous, so we cannot be hunted down and fired or worse by violent leftists.

But on the other hand, we want to be able to prove that our own vote was recorded correctly, and that every other vote corresponds to an actual living eligible US citizen voter.

If you get a receipt, that opens the possibility of employers demanding to see your voter receipt, with the "right" vote, as a condition of continued employment.

> Patrick

Indeed, "verifiable" and "anonymous" are conflicting requirements.

It's somewhat clear how to build in "I want to make sure that my vote was properly recorded" feature, using one-way cryptography.

It's less clear how to make sure that there's no injection of bogus ballots (dead people and whatnot)

Random middle of the night bathroom run thought:

You can almost tell, if somebody has a white collar job, and has or struggled with depression recently, that they are highly likely to hate Trump.

Another one:

Anybody remember the Democrats screaming about how Diebold Machines were hacked by Bush in 2004 and that Kerry really won?

Funny to think ago. In fact, I'm so old I remember 2016 when they started saying a few hundred thousand in Facebook ads by Russia promoting BLM somehow caused Hillary to lose to Trump.

Now election fraud is absolutely impossible, despite witnessing massive statistical near-impossibilities in real time, happen in 3 states within a few hours of the wee morning.

GEORGIA FLIPPED IN THE NIGHT, JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER ONES
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/06/us/elections/biden-now-leads-trump-in-georgia-where-the-count-continues.html

Notice that not one of the stolen states had mystery ballots be counted in broad daylight, only at night.

With Smashmouth, you'll never have enough votes to prevent a steal, they just print more 95% Biden Ballots on demand. They know the media will cover for them 100%.

This time, it's not over the top claim, YOU ARE DEFINITELY LIVING THROUGH A COUP ATTEMPT. Step One to Solution: Accept the situation.
Key Word: Attempt

Don't be surprised the same happens with the military vote that is now promoted as the savior mechanism.

10,000 or whatever armed forces votes will come in, 60% Trump, he'll be back in the lead. Then a USPS Distribution Center or Some Atlanta City Facility will suddenly find an entire floor packed with 13,000 uncounted mail ballots, 95% for Biden. Or somebody in an Atlanta City office will find a flashdrive marked "11/3/20 Totally Valid Votes" on it that has 12,000 Biden Votes on it.

NEXT 3AM FLIP: ARIZONA, AFTER TRUMP IS AHEAD HALF A PERCENT BY 5PM

Man, I hope it is the whopper of whoppers, or we're fucked.

A video of a few postal workers backdating a few ballots won't do it. It has to be Wolfie or Whitmer and their DAs and Sec/State pretty much telling people to manufacture ballots caught on tape with a bunch of witnesses signing affidavits that they were there and heard the whole thing.

NoCoupForYou says

Man, I hope it is the whopper of whoppers, or we're fucked

His twatter account still not blocked? Not for long...

Pennsylvania now gone along with Georgia. "Option A" is off the table. Arizona won't matter now.

Anybody not subscribed to Mother Jones think this wasn't a coup?

just_adhom_preaching says

No idea, the fact that the video is related to Alex Jones is super duper suspect.

I don't know. I know he's botched some things obviously. He was on Rogan the other day/week whenever. He was throwing out random shit and Jamie was looking it up and it seemed true most everything he was saying. I think he's cleaned up a bit. But when you're looking at fringe shit and researching it, you're going to come across as crazy to people that believe the MSM narrative.

Part of the problem is that we've labeled things conspiracy. It's just language. Just because someone says conspiracy, doesn't mean it can't be true. People by default now see that word and completely, 100% of the time discount it as being false without even looking into it. I don't know if this is a term or there's another term for it, but it's a word weapon from the media. Jones has not been 100% wrong, but they've weaponize the word "conspiracy" to try and shut him down.

Footnote: I don't believe I've even accessed his website, so this isn't a defense of him, but more of a focus on how even when you're correct on something, you'll get squashed by the media.

This election seems to be based on hatred not based on what is good for the country and the world. Sounds evil to me. Seems evil is prevailing

NoCoupForYou says

Anybody remember the Democrats screaming about how Diebold Machines were hacked by Bush in 2004 and that Kerry really won?

Probably Kerry did.

George W. Bush used the death of 3,000 Americans to lie the nation into an entirely unrelated war. It was pretty obvious by that time there wasn't a weapons of mass destruction program there. John Kerry, despite all his NUMEROUS faults had at least actually gone to the shithole of Vietnam that we were lied into with the false flag of the Gulf of Tonkin Incident while Duh hung around in the National Guard.

Meanwhile Duh was grabbing people from the National Guard to force them to go to war in Iraq. The result was a huge decrease of people willing to join the National Guard, so Bush kneecapped the economy to try to gain more recruits and lowered standards, but not quite to the level of McNamara's Morons.

Duh BARELY "won" the 2000 election against Gore. The Bush administration hastily stuffed these electronic voting machines that couldn't be inspected or validated down our throats and voila, Duh eeks out anther victory.

There is no difference between the establishment of EITHER parties. They're total fucking liars, they are criminals, they are scum.

Bush was a fucking terrible president, but Obama was about the same level. Remember Kerry "lost" but a black man with a Muslim sounding name handily defeated that worthless fuck John McCain. I really don't know which one of those traitors was worse, Duh or Obomba. They were horrific. Neither one did a single thing for the benefit of this country at all. They were complete scum.

If the nation had stopped Bush 20 years ago, we wouldn't be dealing with the exponential increase in corruption today.

And if you thinks 2020 is bad, 2024 is going to be worse, and 2028 will be worse, 2032 will be worse.

We're not the land of the free and the brave, we're the land of bullshit and platitudes. We just had a coup, as plain as day. What will all those military men who have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic do? They're surrender. They're not going to do shit.

Note how they took completely the wind out of the AZ sails by not advancing it further, but advancing GA and PA overnight so nobody would care anymore. lol

richwicks says

NoCoupForYou says

Anybody remember the Democrats screaming about how Diebold Machines were hacked by Bush in 2004 and that Kerry really won?

Probably Kerry did.

George W. Bush used the death of 3,000 Americans to lie the nation into an entirely unrelated war. It was pretty obvious by that time there wasn't a weapons of mass destruction program there. John Kerry, despite all his NUMEROUS faults had at least actually gone to the shithole of Vietnam that we were lied into with the false flag of the Gulf of Tonkin Incident while Duh hung around in the National Guard.

Meanwhile Duh was grabbing people from the National Guard to force them to go to war in Iraq. The result was a huge decrease of people willing to join the National Guard, so Bush kneecapped the economy to try to gain more recruits and lowered standard, but not quite to the level of McNamara's Morons.

Duh BARELY "w...

Agree with most of what you said. But we humans have a tendency of seeing things too negatively. We don't know how things will turn out but yeah currently it's not looking that great though we still have enough freedom to care for the ones we care about and live a good life. Btw. If you're in SV you should hit up Patrick and come to an informal meetup sometime. We had one or two this summer but only Patrick and rox42 were there.

richwicks says

And if you thinks 2020 is bad, 2024 is going to be worse, and 2028 will be worse, 2032 will be worse.

We're not the land of the free and the brave, we're the land of bullshit and platitudes. We just had a coup, as plain as day. What will all those military men who have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic do? They're surrender. They're not going to do shit.

I suspect you don't have a solution.

I am a Father, I can't just George Carlin laugh at the collapse. I ain't a young guy single Libertarian with no responsibilities to others.

At some point, it's not just gloom and doom, but life and death

"Hey, you can't make me call that person a 'xir'"
"Hey, you can't take me to a re-edcuation camp, that's not right"
"Hey, you can't shoot those kids because their parents voted Trump, don't you know that's wrong?"

NoCoupForYou says

richwicks says

And if you thinks 2020 is bad, 2024 is going to be worse, and 2028 will be worse, 2032 will be worse.

We're not the land of the free and the brave, we're the land of bullshit and platitudes. We just had a coup, as plain as day. What will all those military men who have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic do? They're surrender. They're not going to do shit.

I suspect you don't have a solution.

I am a Father, I can't just George Carlin laugh at the collapse. I ain't a young guy single Libertarian with no responsibilities to others.

This has been going on for 20 years, and was easy to see. People have tried to warn others about this inevitable collapse for decades.

People got laughed at, derided - well here's the bed you all made. I am not looking forward to the collapse of the nation, but here it is.

And there is no solution at this point. You just had a fucking coup. The coup is obvious. The majority of voters ended up with a senile hair sniffer who was selling access to his office and Americans are so propagandized they believe their fellow Americans marched out, and voted for that thing in record numbers, the largest voter turnout in history, in a re-election year.

Maybe the country doesn't deserve to survive. If this is the kind of people that is REALLY is, and it appears to be, fuck it. Do you believe in the efficacy of propaganda now? See censorship now? Understand conspiracies happen now? Fucking 9/11 was a conspiracy that happened 2 decades ago. That was our 1st coup. Here, you can read the playbook:

https://archive.org/details/RebuildingAmericasDefenses

Even when they tell you what they are going to do it's ignored. The United States has a complete propaganda press, and a completely non democratic government, and have had that for years. This is what you get when you don't speak out. Wouldn't want to offend anybody. Wouldn't want to appear to be a nutcase would you? This country is filled mostly with cowards that call people like me "conspiratorial". Well, here's a fucking conspiracy you can't deny. You just went through a coup. Maybe now Americans can start reviewing previous conspiracies, obvious ones.

Our media hasn't changed, it's been like this for at least 2 decades. What's happened during that time?

FFS - lets not conflate voter fraud in longtime Democrat machine districts with 9/11 Troofer nonsense.

mell says

Agree with most of what you said. But we humans have a tendency of seeing things too negatively. We don't know how things will turn out but yeah currently it's not looking that great though we still have enough freedom to care for the ones we care about and live a good life. Btw. If you're in SV you should hit up Patrick and come to an informal meetup sometime. We had one or two this summer but only Patrick and rox42 were there.

I might be entertaining to you so I'll consider asking at some point.

richwicks says

Maybe the country doesn't deserve to survive

Where men marry men, women marry women, people are so mentally ill and deluded they don't even know what sex they are. A perfectly healthy baby can be born and then let die just on a whim. What could possibly go wrong?

socal2 says

FFS - lets not conflate voter fraud in longtime Democrat machine districts with 9/11 Troofer nonsense.

Look, find an error in anything this man says in this presentation:

https://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/

This is the biggest most difficult thing to do - to get a person to realize they've been fooled. Seriously, listen to that presentation, and try to find ANYTHING in it that is claimed is untrue but 9/11 was a series of compounding unlikely events, if it wasn't planned. I remember the reports of Odigo being forwarned, I remember the arrest of the Dancing Israelis, the stopping of several vans packed with explosives, the shorting of airline stocks. the fact Larry Silverstein had JUST taken over the WTC properties and took out massive insurance against them just months before.

It's nonsense though - well, OK. I tried. Most people prefer a comfortable lie than the terrifying truth. It's nearly fucking impossible. Just getting a person to entertain the possibility they were tricked, is extremely difficult. I got to the point about 10 years ago, I started seriously questioning if most people were actually sentient.

The best thing Trump can do IMO is spend a great deal of time and money exposing all the cases of voter fraud they dig up. Doubt the courts will use it to overturn the results, but Trump could do a great service educating the American public about the scope and scale.

How on earth after this election will people be able to argue against voter ID and other reasonable voting safe guards?

Republicans will struggle winning again in 2022 and 2024 if we don't fix this corruption in big states like PA.

Democrats still haven't accepted the 2000 election, let alone the 2016 election. So I don't want to hear their bullshit about us being sore losers because PA is counting ballots without signatures and postmarks.

richwicks says

This has been going on for 20 years, and was easy to see. People have tried to warn others about this inevitable collapse for decades.

People got laughed at, derided - well here's the bed you all made. I am not looking forward to the collapse of the nation, but here it is.

Good, I hope it keeps you warm at night.

richwicks says

And if you thinks 2020 is bad, 2024 is going to be worse, and 2028 will be worse, 2032 will be worse.

This!

richwicks says

And there is no solution at this point. You just had a fucking coup. The coup is obvious. The majority of voters ended up with a senile hair sniffer who was selling access to his office and Americans are so propagandized they believe their fellow Americans marched out, and voted for that thing in record numbers, the largest voter turnout in history, in a re-election year.

And so did you. Enjoy being right, because if you are, you'll have other things to worry about like everybody else.

But I'm getting a good feeling again.

It's always darkest before the Don. And there's no showman on Earth like him.

Good overview of the irregularities and why they are collectively significant:

https://monsterhunternation.com/2020/11/05/the-2020-election-fuckery-is-afoot/

socal2 says

Democrats still haven't accepted the 2000 election, let alone the 2016 election.

Let me remind you that in 2000, when Bush "won" there weren't any riots, just people grumbled about it and thought Bush Jr. was an illegitimate president who was elected because enough old senile people thought they were voting for his father.

Anybody in the group, who had principles, became independents when Obozo who was specifically elected to end these wars, instead concentrated on gay marriage and and a national discussion on transgendered bathrooms. A lot people I thought had principles before 2008 I realized had none by 2010. I dumped friendships when otherwise principled people were defending bombing every fucking thing Bush did. The last one I walked away from was in 2017 when my TDS BUSINESS PARTNER got incensed that I dared challenge him to explain how Obama was actually an improvement in any way over Boosh. He couldn't do it, but he sure could get outraged.

In the end: If you don't recognize that

1) George W. Bush was a fucking terrible presidency since he was 100% controlled by the intelligence agencies and "defense" industries
2) Barack Obama was a fucking terrible president since he was 100% controlled by the intelligence agencies and "defense" industries
3) Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, John McCain, John Kerry - were ALL identical as well.

Then you're simply incorrect. If you were happy with George W. Bush or Barack Obama - you should be perfectly fine with Joe Biden because he's just a meat puppet.

We have a brief 4 year period, where we didn't have a meat puppet in the presidency, we had man. It was a nice respite.

It remains ridiculous that it’s somehow suppressing the vote to require people to register ahead of time and then present a valid government ID.