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U.S.—Very legitimate President-elect Joe Biden assured all Americans in his victory speech last Saturday night that the elections held nationwide were “mostly legitimate.” His comments come as a rebuke to those who were saying totally baseless things about voter fraud, illegal ballots being counted, and poll workers counting ballots in a boarded-up building with no oversight.

“It’s time to put away the harsh rhetoric, to lower the temperature, to see each other, to listen to each other again,” Biden said. “Well, everyone who accepts this totally legit election—I mean, c’mon man. Everything was by the book.”

All election experts and hosts from CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NPR, and the AP immediately backed up every point of Joe Biden’s speech condemning the few scattered millions of people who still had some lingering doubts.

“You want to know how I know those stories about tabulation software glitches and dead people voting are part of a disinformation campaign?” asked CNN’s Brian Stelter on his program. “Facebook and Twitter are censoring them. That’s how you know what’s real and what’s not."

“Just listen to the election experts and people censoring other points of view like me,” he added.

At publishing time, rumors about the Trump campaign filing several lawsuits disputing the election results were being censored by social media companies.

lol babylon bee?

I meant do you believe that there is undeniable mathematical evidence that the election is being stolen?

@Shake85 I don't know whether it is undeniable or not yet. I'm not certain of anything, least of all the actual result of the election.

https://therightscoop.com/new-sworn-affidavit-describes-biden-harris-operatives-in-nevada-filling-out-illegal-mail-in-ballots-outside-polling-location/

The affidavit explains how Biden/Harris operatives, who parked a Biden/Harris labeled bus in the parking lot of an early voting polling place, would stand out there filling out mail-in ballots against the side of the bus and would then put them in pink and white envelopes. These ballots would then be brought inside the polling place and surrendered to poll workers.

The poll worker witnessed this as he or she exercised by walking around the parking lot during a lunch break. The poll worker noted how the Biden/Harris operatives would form a line to try and block their view as they walked around the parking lot, so they wouldn’t see the illegal filing out of mail-in ballots.

The poll worker reported what they had seen, but was told by an election official that it was simply legal ballot harvesting. The poll worker affirms it was NOT ballot harvesting.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/09/detroit-city-elections-employee-workers-coached-voters-for-joe-biden-changed-dates-on-ballots/

I directly observed, on a daily basis, City of Detroit election workers and employees coaching and trying to coach voters to vote for Joe Biden and the Democrat party. I witnessed these workers and employees encouraging voters to do a straight Democrat ballot. I witnessed these election workers and employees going over to the voting booths with voters in order to watch them vote and coach them for whom to vote.

Shake85 says

I meant do you believe that there is undeniable mathematical evidence that the election is being stolen?

At this point it's pretty undeniable that shit should go to court.

@patrick. You believe that the election was stolen though it sounds.

It is going to be a crazy 35 days until the actual presidential election on December 14, 2020. The rise in property insurance premiums is going to be astronomical if Trump manages to win in PA, WI, and NV by getting votes tossed. At this point I don't even know if the votes can be sorted out. I do know that Trump was ahead before the mail in ballots were counted.

Fuck em. Let em lash out.

Shake85 says

You believe that the election was stolen though it sounds.

@Shake85 I think there is a significant probability of election fraud by Democrats, but I'm not sure.

Did you think that there was any probability of fraud 4 years ago or didn't care?

thenuttyneutron says

It is going to be a crazy 35 days until the actual presidential election on December 14, 2020. The rise in property insurance premiums is going to be astronomical if Trump manages to win in PA, WI, and NV by getting votes tossed. At this point I don't even know if the votes can be sorted out. I do know that Trump was ahead before the mail in ballots were counted.

I suspect this time Trump DGAF what Beetlejuice and Wheeler think. With Esper gone, and a counter-insurgency expert in, he's gonna just declare it a national emergency.

People will SEE the difference. And it will end, fast.

Lumpenproles itch for 40" LCDs, until a 50 cal is pointed at 'em

Shake85 says

Did you think that there was any probability of fraud 4 years ago or didn't care?

I think the probability was far lower in 2016 because there were not millions of spam ballots, nor was there any real concern that Trump could win.

Also, Trump's win was quite convincing in the Electoral College, not even close. 304 electoral votes compared to 227 votes for Hillary Clinton.

@Shake85 Why do you ask, Two Dogs?

Also, if there was a hint of Fraud, the Dems would have contested it.

Gore contested a few hundred votes in one County, and then demanded he get a recount whatever county he chose after he failed to flip that, weeks after Election Day.

If Clinton even had a whiff of fraud, you think Hillary the Hellion wouldn't have spent her huge warchest to do so?

I am just trying to find out the motive for the firehose of these headlines claiming to have absolute proof of a stolen election. Is it for balance because the mainstream media is happy, whether you really feel that way or are trying to fire up the right or what.

So far, I'm not seeing any widespread evidence of Journalism in the media.

In addition to "mathematical evidence"

There is "common sense evidence" that unsolicited mail in balloting is subject to massive fraud.

AG Barr called it out back in September to Wolf Blitzer's face.

www.youtube.com/embed/bWGOu3WV3Mk

How does unsolicited ballot fraud work? People gathering ballots from mailboxes and returning them? Wouldn't people say where the Fs my ballot? oh someone already voted with it. That would be noticeable.

Shake85 says

How does unsolicited ballot fraud work? People gathering ballots from mailboxes and returning them? Wouldn't people say where the Fs my ballot? oh someone already voted with it. That would be noticeable.

Think of all the apartment complexes in minority neighborhoods that probably had 5 different registered voters living in that apartment over the past 10 years. Since places like California make little effort to clean up the voter rolls, a single apartment could get 5 ballots.

How hard is it for Democrat operatives to canvas these neighborhoods and collect these unused ballots and fill them out?

There is only about 100,000 votes in a few key states deciding this election.

NoCoupForYou says

So far, I'm not seeing any widespread evidence of Journalism in the media.

Lol, excellent line!

Scott Adams did this cute little video where he showed how easy it is to cheat with mail-in ballots. Guy takes grandma's ballot for Trump, throws it in the trash. Done.

Conversely, I could easily have taken ballots that didn't belong to me, filled them out, and sent them in. But I didn't do that. Millions of Democrats would, and probably did. Some even brag about it.

There would be clusters of complaints then. This was such a hot election that all these harvested ballots would have to affect someone and piss them off enough to complain.

Yes, lets see if there are clusters of complaints. And let's see if more ballot workers will come out to talk about what they saw.

With only a tiny bit of effort, I can see that there are a lot of people older than the oldest living human who "voted" in Philadelphia, according to official records downloaded from them:

https://patrick.net/post/1335743?offset=680#comment-1710932

I've lived in 7 residences in the past two decades. I'm sure ballots got mailed to each residence.

theoakman says

I've lived in 7 residences in the past two decades. I'm sure ballots got mailed to each residence.

Now how easy is it to look up to see if someone else voted in your name?

If that many ballots were used, it would be detected. I would sure as hell complain if I couldn't vote. I don't buy "Democratic operatives" organizing this.

https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1604959396840.webm

The above link from https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8JLA7MW/do-your-patriotic-duty-help-us-w/

Shake85 says

Did you think that there was any probability of fraud 4 years ago or didn't care?

Why would you ask this question? I don't remember it ever coming up other than Russia Russia Russia. The equivalent (it's not even close to being equivalent) would be to compare Russia Russia Russia (which was investigated for Trump's ENTIRE TERM) to say..."Ok, Russia paid for $100K worth of Facebook ads (Maybe Facebook is a treasonous organization for allowing it? Maybe Facebook is a foreign agent?) but the MSM gave billions of free slanted coverage in favor of Biden. Wouldn't you agree with that?

This successful prosecution earlier this year by the Justice Department was certainly an eye opener about what can happen in Philadelphia:
During his guilty plea hearing, Demuro admitted that while serving as an elected municipal Judge of Elections, he accepted bribes in the form of money and other things of value in exchange for adding ballots to increase the vote totals for certain candidates on the voting machines in his jurisdiction and for certifying tallies of all the ballots, including the fraudulent ballots...
“Demuro fraudulently stuffed the ballot box by literally standing in a voting booth and voting over and over, as fast as he could, while he thought the coast was clear. This is utterly reprehensible conduct. The charges announced today do not erase what he did, but they do ensure that he is held to account for those actions,” said U.S. Attorney William M. McSwain of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania. “Voting is the cornerstone of our democracy. If even one vote is fraudulently rung up, the integrity of that election is compromised. I want the public to know that this investigation is active and ongoing, and my Office is taking every possible step that we can to ensure the integrity of the upcoming primary and general elections in the nine counties of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.”

Shake85 says

If that many ballots were used, it would be detected.

And it was.

GlocknLoad says

Shake85 says

Did you think that there was any probability of fraud 4 years ago or didn't care?

Why would you ask this question? I don't remember it ever coming up other than Russia Russia Russia. The equivalent (it's not even close to being equivalent) would be to compare Russia Russia Russia (which was investigated for Trump's ENTIRE TERM) to say..."Ok, Russia paid for $100K worth of Facebook ads (Maybe Facebook is a treasonous organization for allowing it? Maybe Facebook is a foreign agent?) but the MSM gave billions of free slanted coverage in favor of Biden. Wouldn't you agree with that?

Correct. Trump loyalists were saying "Russia Hoax" not that Trump had the means motive and opportunity to use foreign means to dig up dirt on a political opponent and it should be looked into. All depends who you are rooting for. Still don't see what would make someone pull for the guy.

Shake85 says

Still don't see what would make someone pull for the guy.

You got proof? We got Biden and Obama ON FILM colluding with Russia and Ukraine. C'mon man!!!!

We got 2 choices as always. This time it was Trump or Biden. Please tell me why Biden is better than Trump for the AMERICAN people. Not for illegals, not for gays, not for pregnant mothers who want to kill their unborn child, not for blacks in the ghetto who simply blame whitey for errthang...for the AMERICAN people.

@Shake85 You do know that exactly the opposite happened, right? The Democrats used foreign means to "dig up dirt" on a political opponent. That's the Steele Dossier.

Fortunately, it was fabricated dirt, not real.

Now why would anyone root for Trump? You really don't see it?

How about knowing for a fact that both parties have been in bed together so long they don't have any more diseases to share? All pretense was up as soon as you saw GW Bush supporting Hillary.

The thing about Trump is exactly that none of the elite want him. That alone makes me want him to be president. Along with the fact that he is the only president since Carter not to start an armed conflict, and that the economy was doing great under him.

Patrick says

The thing about Trump is exactly that none of the elite want him. That alone makes me want him to be president.

It's not like Biden didn't say in one of his press conferences just prior to the election that they have the largest voter fraud operation in history or anything.

Oh wait. He did.

Senile old fuck.

I bet they wished they had that mic on a 10 second delay that day.

I don't buy that Biden is some far left, I know he was painted that way for political purposes by Trump campaign. I'd prefer drama free for a while. Biden doesn't seem like a poke the other team kind of guy. Don't know if he'll start any wars or boost the economy.

Shake85 says

I don't buy that Biden is some far left, I know he was painted that way for political purposes by Trump campaign.

His promises of amnesty for illegals, "assault weapons ban" and "no new fracking permits" among others are not far left enough for you?

Shake85 says

I don't buy that Biden is some far left, I know he was painted that way for political purposes by Trump campaign.

Good Lord...

Shake85 says

I don't buy that Biden is some far left, I know he was painted that way for political purposes by Trump campaign. I'd prefer drama free for a while. Biden doesn't seem like a poke the other team kind of guy. Don't know if he'll start any wars or boost the economy.

For shit sake, did you listen to anything Joe and the Hoe have been saying? I believe you don't listen to the words either Trump or Biden say, you simply make an emotional decision based on HOW they are saying it. That, right there, is some scary assed shit.