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Shake85 says

If he has something, other academics will run with it and it will bubble up. If not it will fade away. I place my bets on the latter.

I wouldn't hold my breath. Given the athmosphere in the academia not many people would risk being labeled racist nazi trumpist pig and get all the tarring and feathering which goes with it.

BTW, the math is real simple so there is not much to "run with". It's pretty much ready to be presented in front of a judge as it is.

Shake85 says

If he has something, other academics will run with it and it will bubble up. If not it will fade away. I place my bets on the latter.

We know it's true because the intel agitprop bots (Shake) are still cropping up here. Of course, they are probably carpet bombing FaceFuckBook et alia. with their lies if even Patnet gets them.

HELL YES @patrick!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shake85 says

If he has something, other academics will run with it and it will bubble up. If not it will fade away. I place my bets on the latter.

WTF is this obsession with the "academics"? Are people too stupid these days to do basic math / statistics. Anybody with a CS or math/science degree can reproduce this (as PHD Shiva did) and come to the conclusion that these results are statistically impossible. enough with the "experts" lol. Look what that has gotten us into wrt covid. DIY!

mell says

Shake85 says

If he has something, other academics will run with it and it will bubble up. If not it will fade away. I place my bets on the latter.

WTF is this obsession with the "academics"? Are people too stupid these days to do basic math / statistics. Anybody with a CS or math/science degree can reproduce this (as PHD Shiva did) and come to the conclusion that these results are statistically impossible. enough with the "experts" lol. Look what that has gotten us into wrt covid. DIY!

Notice how that Shake guy didn't even try to watch the fucking video. He basically admits that he's to stupid to try to follow somebody's simple math argument and immediately resorts to seeking approval of some "acadamics" (while, ironically, immediately deciding not to believe the very academic who presents the argument).

Eric Holder says

mell says

Shake85 says

If he has something, other academics will run with it and it will bubble up. If not it will fade away. I place my bets on the latter.

WTF is this obsession with the "academics"? Are people too stupid these days to do basic math / statistics. Anybody with a CS or math/science degree can reproduce this (as PHD Shiva did) and come to the conclusion that these results are statistically impossible. enough with the "experts" lol. Look what that has gotten us into wrt covid. DIY!

Notice how that Shake guy didn't even try to watch the fucking video. He basically admits that he's to stupid to try to follow somebody's simple math argument and immediately resorts to seeking approval of some "acadamics" (while, ironically, immediately deciding not to believe the very academic who presents the argument).

Like you said plenty of academics are too scared to speak up as it can have serious repercussion for them.

mell says

Like you said plenty of academics are too scared to speak up as it can have serious repercussion for them.

Even if they weren't afraid I find it weird how somebody flat out capitulates when presented with simple math. You don't need any education beyond HS to understand Shiva's argument.

A lot more people than Shiva are onto this fraud.
Do not assume he's a lone voice on YouTube.
A lot of Trump voters are clever around computers and software.
For instance, my friend with a master's in computer science who was at Tandem, then Compaq, then lost his job to two H1B visa guys from India is one.
He likes Trump for trying to stem the foreign worker tide.
There are likely many like him working on this.

Nobody is challenging the 'fraud math' with 'counter fraud math'. All of the cheating co-dependents are making emotional arguments, denial, straw man, no true scotsman, begging the question, slippery slope, assertion fallacies and are exhausting the roster of logical fallacies. Maybe they will coin a few new logical fallacies.

The cheating is so easy to do. You get your fake tally and scream you are the winner before anybody can examine the conditions of the tally itself. When you have the entire MSM fake news press screaming winner in every variation possible, it is quite the deception tsunami.

Eric Holder says

Did you watch Dr. Shiva's video? Care to offer a natural, benign explaination for these skewed graphs?

Not holding my breath for this

And if math isn’t your thing, look at the raw data time series data from Edison where you can freaking see the Trump / Biden percent change while the total number of votes remains the same.

What's interesting is that on thedonald.win, the MSM agencies are deleting ALL their 2020 election coverage - they are trying to cover their tracks.

It doesn’t matter the time series data has been archived by multiple people on the site at this point.

ignoreme says

It doesn’t matter the time series data has been archived by multiple people on the site at this point.

It does matter I think. They'll just pretend it never happened, ignore it on the media. They treat us like fools all the time. Because most people don't pay that much attention, they will believe what media is selling on the left. Messed up world we live in.

If we let them get away with it, we are screwed.

WTF DOMINION AGAIN????

mell says

Are people too stupid these days to do basic math / statistics.

Mell, you know better ;) You also don't even need to have a degree in anything. The math is basic addition and subtraction from previous results. It simply isn't possible and I think the cheating out kicked the coverage AND it's still fucking close to a Trump win. Obvious cheating and still at a razors edge for victory....lol. You go all in and it's still this close.

Dem party is likely toast even if Biden gets in. There's going to be a fuck ton of infighting.

Shake85 says

If this were true, he wouldn't have to be shouting this from Twitter as it would already be news.

The news doesn't even REPORT on either the allegations in complaints, or any reversals Biden gets from judges, like PA Courts tossing out the additional time added illegally by Boockvar to cure ballots.

The only report on minor procedural defeats.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Media doesn't cover the SCOTUS hearing. The Media intends to create the idea that Trump stole the election and committed voter suppression.

How many people know the AZ Secretary of State called Trump supporters Nazis in 2017 and backs BLM?

mell says

Are people too stupid these days to do basic math / statistics.

Yes. If people were good at math very few people would be Democrats.

Feeding the same stacks of ballots into the machine repeatedly, says Dominion IT worker who personally witnessed in Detroit

www.youtube.com/embed/tDEUUK6yRBY

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/maricopa-county-az-gop-chair-resigns-after-failing-certify-dominion-voting-machines

Maricopa County AZ GOP Chair Resigns After Failing To Certify Dominion Voting Machines

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says

Trump is 0 for 13 suits.

YOU CAN SUCK HIS STRANGE MISSHAPEN THING AND IT WON'T REVERSE THE RULINGS!

Vance is going to stuff Trump in Attica and he will die from a PROLAPSED RECTUM, exactly as God Wants.

Thank you. Is this voting machine conspiracy in any of the lawsuits?

Shake85 says

don't know who Dr. Shiva is, nor do I care to go down a rabbit hole of conspiracy debunking.

So you’re just another ostrich, head in the sand, claiming you see no fraud, see nothing in fact!
Basically you’re an idiot tool of the oligarchy.
Congrats on that. I hear that three like you plus $3.50 can buy you a cup of coffee in some places.

Shaman says

Shake85 says

don't know who Dr. Shiva is, nor do I care to go down a rabbit hole of conspiracy debunking.

So you’re just another ostrich, head in the sand, claiming you see no fraud, see nothing in fact!
Basically you’re an idiot tool of the oligarchy.
Congrats on that. I hear that three like you plus $3.50 can buy you a cup of coffee in some places.

If this sees its day in court I'll absolutely dive in and I am sure everyone would be glued. You can literally spend all of your free time debunking BS. That is why Trump spews so much, just to keep opponents spinning and supporters frothing. I read he may be starting his own media outlets :(

My wife says that we need UN election observers in the US, like every third world country does.

Patrick says

My wife says that we need UN election observers in the US, like every third world country does.

Honesty, the average Norwegian/German/Spanish Democratic Socialist bureaucrat/NGO observer would ignore it to stop Hitler-Trump.

NoCoupForYou says

Patrick says

My wife says that we need UN election observers in the US, like every third world country does.

Honesty, the average Norwegian/German/Spanish Democratic Socialist bureaucrat/NGO observer would ignore it to stop Hitler-Trump.

Xactly.

What we need to do is arrest anybody ID'd in the sworn affidavits and put them under pressure - accept a Misdemeanor or face many years in Prison if they don't plead guilty.

So just imagine that Apocalypsefuck is your poll worker and your election observer.

Think he's going to allow legit votes for Trump to make it past him?

That's the situation we're dealing with.

Please don't moderate AF. Even when suffering a major TDS episode, he has the most eloquent way of verbally describing his frustrations.

I am laughing uncontrollably at this point. The Trump team keeps digging up shit that the DNC is desperate to keep buried. I am normally against capital punishment but I can make an exception for people guilty of sedition against the US Constitution. Fraud on this scale that can change the results of an election is a declaration of civil war against the US Constitution.

Meet the Arizona Secretary of State. Unbiased, my ass.

Patrick says

So just imagine that Apocalypsefuck is your poll worker and your election observer.

Think he's going to allow legit votes for Trump to make it past him?

That's the situation we're dealing with.

More likely a "BBQ beer freedom" poll worker. Either way the ease of detection and risk/reward doesn't pan out for dishonest poll workers swinging the election. Fraud would have to come from somewhere else.

Hitler still at it...

https://streamable.com/si0uqs

Patrick says

So just imagine that Apocalypsefuck is your poll worker and your election observer.

Think he's going to allow legit votes for Trump to make it past him?

That's the situation we're dealing with.

With a gun to the head all is possible.

Patrick says

https://gab.com/realdonaldtrump/posts/105198311542232008

Donald J Trump
@realdonaldtrump
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“REPORT: DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE. DATA ANALYSIS FINDS 221,000 PENNSYLVANIA VOTES SWITCHED FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BIDEN. 941,000 TRUMP VOTES DELETED. STATES USING DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS SWITCHED 435,000 VOTES FROM TRUMP TO BIDEN.”

You all need to step out of your alt-right echo chamber and into the real world. The link is to a far alt right website with no evidence at all behind their allegations. Shame on you for even posting this! Scads of Republican governors and election officials have indicated that there has been no significant hints of voter fraud. Are you saying that not only the Democrats but the Republicans are also committing voter fraud?

astronut97 says

The link is to a far alt right website with no evidence at all behind their allegations.

The links to the evidence with source data have all been linked in previous threads. If you’re too dumb to keep up go post somewhere else.

astronut97 says

Scads of Republican governors and election officials have indicated

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