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theoakman says

Here's the problem with your argument about partisan nonsense. She played a clip from a liberal newcast. 2 years ago.

he-he...right to the dome

From Erick Erickson on Twitter:

Might as well start up the nightly bag of hatemail with some blunt truths. I say this as a supporter and donor of the President's re-election effort. A lot of his core supporters, who've never contributed a penny to his campaign, will blast me as NeverTrump, but…

According to the Trump World narrative, the President was failed by multiple chiefs of staff, his first attorney general, and now his second.
The Durham investigation that would expose everything is exposing nothing, not even itself. But just you wait and see!

The Trump controlled Department of Justice and Trump controlled FBI are in on stealing the election from their boss along with possibly the CIA and now Fox News whose accurate call of Arizona was right, but hurt feelings by coming too soon.

The Republican governors of Georgia and Arizona and the Republican legislators of Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin are in on picking the infrastructure that stole the election and will do nothing to stop it.


The Republican Party in Georgia is unable to get the Republican Governor, Lt. Gov., Secretary of State, or Attorney General to act to do the President's bidding, so they all must be in cahoots with Stacey Abrams who they all dislike.

Dominion Voting Systems handed the vote to Donald Trump in all the counties in which their machines were used in Pennsylvania, but was in on the act of stealing the election there and elsewhere.

The paper ballot votes in Georgia aligned with the Dominion Voter Systems machine count so that is proof the election was stolen, as were the disproportionate use of absentee ballots by Democrats when Trump said not to use them and Biden said to use them.

The lawsuits being filed by President Trump's team are all being tossed from court, often by the judges the President himself picked. The lawyers have failed him. So have his judges and courts.

Maybe it is all a grand conspiracy or maybe, just maybe, and this is a wild idea, but maybe the man who said he hired the best people didn't and that ultimately means that he's not actually very good at picking the right people. But wait…there's more.

For the sake of argument, let's suppose that the Attorney General, who previously served as Attorney General for George H. W. Bush, is actually a highly competent individual and John Durham is too.
But both have been unable to deliver results that would expose the deep state conspiracy against the President -- the one that also involved the DOJ, FBI, and CIA stealing the election from the President with the help of Republican governors and legislators.

And there are a bunch of courtiers to the Trump Administration who've been assuring us that just you wait, it is all going to be exposed and people are going to jail and the deep state house of cards is collapsing.

Maybe…and I know this might just blow your mind…but maybe what if you've been lied to the whole time. There is no conspiracy . There is no theft of the election. The President hired highly competent people, but it is him, not them, that is the problem.

And then maybe, just maybe, because it is him, not them, that is the problem, ultimately it is really you who are the problem because you so willingly got played and even now want to be played because now you're emotionally invested in a cause and a candidate and…

…to admit you were played and he lost and there was no deep state conspiracy or theft of the election would actually make you look bad. So it's better to double down on the lies and bullshit and blame everyone else …

from the Trump appointed AG to the Trump appointed FBI Director to the Trump appointed CIA Director to various Trump endorsed Governors to the GOP establishment to corporate America, the Carlyle Group, the Rothschilds, the Russians, and the Chinese.

Maybe Hillary Clinton was so deeply disliked that Trump could beat her and if he'd not flubbed his first debate, not had so many insane tweets, and not handled the viral situation as he had, he could have beaten Biden. But voters got exhausted and chose to move on.

Or, who knows, maybe the deep state stole it and, if so, using the same machines in 4 years, good luck running Trump again.

Erickson only jumped on the train when he was almost totally irrelevant. There weren't enough NeverTrumpers or Lenin Projectors to keep him liquid.

NoCoupForYou says

Erickson only jumped on the train when he was almost totally irrelevant. There weren't enough NeverTrumpers or Lenin Projectors to keep him liquid.

That doesn't actually make him wrong you know

bdrasin says

That doesn't actually make him wrong you know

Sure it does, he's a cuck loser. He is an old school GOPe who, as long as he gets cheap labor and an occasional tax cut, is fine with the "managed decline" of the USA, particularly in a cultural sense.

It doesn't matter what he thinks, Trump isn't going anywhere until the Fraud is fixed.

He's just a Chamberlain, to be forgotten by history except as a joke and a warining.

NoCoupForYou says

bdrasin says

That doesn't actually make him wrong you know

Sure it does, he's a cuck loser. He is an old school GOPe who, as long as he gets cheap labor and an occasional tax cut, is fine with the "managed decline" of the USA, particularly in a cultural sense.

It doesn't matter what he thinks, Trump isn't going anywhere until the Fraud is fixed.

He's just a Chamberlain, to be forgotten by history except as a joke and a warining.

I find this really weird. You seem to think that you insulting someone makes them wrong. It doesn't. What you think of someone has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not what they are arguing makes sense.

Every court that's looked at these so-called "fraud" claims has rejected them. Very decisively and often with much scorn. These grandiose claims that Trump/Trumpers are making in the media and online aren't surviving in court where you have to present evidence and are held accountable for testifying falsely. Deal with that, not with puerile insults

Great, you've got a couple of screenshots, one of which accuses two Republican elected officials of committing treason in order to help a candidate of the other party win a state which he didn't need to win the election. It makes no sense to anyone outside of your little conspiracy ghetto. Talk on social media and patnet counts for nothing; if there really were proof Trump's team would be showing it in court. They aren't, because there isn't any.

bdrasin says

Every court that's looked at these so-called "fraud" claims has rejected them.

And so far the ones which have been decided that way were the weakest cases that were meant to buy time. This is as expected.
The election might be over but we won’t have a result for some time yet.

bdrasin says

Great, you've got a couple of screenshots, one of which accuses two Republican elected officials of committing treason in order to help a candidate of the other party win a state which he didn't need to win the election. It makes no sense to anyone outside of your little conspiracy ghetto. Talk on social media and patnet counts for nothing; if there really were proof Trump's team would be showing it in court. They aren't, because there isn't any.

Various official Republican election observers told lawmakers of things they saw about the process that lacked transparency or were legally questionable. That included Linda Brickman, first vice chair of the Maricopa County Republican Party, who testified she saw Trump votes being tallied as Biden votes.

https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2020/12/01/vote-certified-gop-challenges-continue/

Shaman says

bdrasin says

Every court that's looked at these so-called "fraud" claims has rejected them.

And so far the ones which have been decided that way were the weakest cases that were meant to buy time. This is as expected.
The election might be over but we won’t have a result for some time yet.

Down 74 points with no time left on the clock, 4th down on our own 2 inch line is EXACTLY where we wanted to be!

Booger says

Wow, you've got all this awesome proof, why aren't you working for Trump's legal team? They think their case is so weak they're not even TRYING to show widespread fraud in their court actions!

I think Trump is trying to practice restraint, to see if the legal process can handle things before going ballistic.

Unfortunately, the enemy is thuggish, adamant and unrestrained by ethics and morality of any kind. However, opening the situation up to military tribunal and martial law could be a whole 'nother bag of worms.

NoCoupForYou says

astronut97 says

I admit that I have a reality bias. Show me actual evidence of voter fraud that isn't on the same level as the other non-evidence based conspiracy theories. This site is so biased against reality that I am dumbfounded that actual adults post this shit. Pull your heads out of your arses.

WTF is this post supposed to mean? Do you not understand what constitutes evidence?

NoCoupForYou says

astronut97 says

Newsmax and OAN are not even remotely reliable non-partisan sources.

The NYT isn't either, nor MSNBC, nor NPR:

This graphic doesn't support what you are saying. It merely states where certain demographics use as their source of news. It says nothing about the veracity of the news sites.

Eric Holder says

astronut97 says

Newsmax and OAN are not even remotely reliable non-partisan sources. The vote wasn't hacked, Trump lost fairly and squarely.

As opposed to what? Says who?

Says anyone with a brain, what's wrong with yours? Newsmax and OAN are ultra rightwing non-fact based entertainment sites, not news sites.

SunnyvaleCA says

astronut97 says

Show me actual evidence of voter fraud that isn't on the same level as the other non-evidence based conspiracy theories.

How about the notorized sworn affidavits from multiple poll watchers? That is "actual evidence" with actual names of actual witnesses who will actually go to jail if they are found to be lying — I don't think they're just making stuff up. If even 1/2 of what Giuliani claimed at his presentation in Pennsylvania is true, this is a whopper of an election rigging.

None of this has held up in any court it's been brought before, so Trump and his minions are just making it up. You have any actual evidence? The courts so far don't think so, even Trump and Republican appointees.

bdrasin says

NoCoupForYou says

Erickson only jumped on the train when he was almost totally irrelevant. There weren't enough NeverTrumpers or Lenin Projectors to keep him liquid.

That doesn't actually make him wrong you know

I used to listen to Erick, that was until COVID hit and he went full left on the issue. Face masks, full panic, all that crap.

Couple months later he is screaming Biden won, while ignoring the mountains of evidence and is in bed with Brian Kemp.

Erick appeared to be a voice of reason for a long time, but I can't listen to the hack anymore. Tim Pool who is a self proclaimed liberal does a WAY better job than Erick presenting a fair picture of what's going on. Erick just proclaims the MSM talking points now.

Fortwaynemobile says

astronut97 says

Fortwaynemobile says

That’s longest projection ever. Do you even hear your bias there?

I admit that I have a reality bias. Show me actual evidence of voter fraud that isn't on the same level as the other non-evidence based conspiracy theories. This site is so biased against reality that I am dumbfounded that actual adults post this shit. Pull your heads out of your arses.

You have no reality bias, you have left wing bias, I heard all your points word for word from other cnn watchers before. Lefts propaganda works well. It’s all same points, because they find bottom dweller and represent him as voice for Republicans, which isn’t reality.

If you want evidence. Evidence, go watch Pennsylvania hearing and Arizona hearing. That evidence was made public. All those witnesses are not Rus...

I stick by my reality bias, as unfortunately for you, reality seems to have a liberal, science bias. What in the Pennsylvania or Arizona hearings do you consider pertinent, as it appears the courts do not agree with you, including Republican appointed judges.

Patrick says

Well you forgot to mention the other bowl held a pile of steaming shit. I'd take porridge over shit any day.

Onvacation says

astronut97 says

non-partisan sources. The vote wasn't hacked, Trump lost fairly and squarely. If you believe Newmax then you must also be a flat earther, young earther, creationist, anti-vaxer, moon landing hoaxer, birther and whatever other non-evidence based conspiracy theory out there.

If you can't argue the facts attack the person.

Do you really believe that Trump got more popular votes than anyone else in any previous presidential election? I do.

Why the f*** would you believe that? I'm not so much attacking the person as I am attacking their lack of a working BS detector. I just listed a bunch of positions that have as much evidence behind them as the election has been hacked believers. For them and any of these other positions holders, please present you verified evidence. Put up or shut up.

astronut97 says

please present you verified evidence.

Oh, it's "verified evidence" now? Whose "verification" would you accept?

You guys are being trolled

Eric Holder says

Oh, it's "verified evidence" now? Whose "verification" would you accept?

Only liberal scientific evidence of type that there exist hundreds of genders

joshuatrio says

You guys are being trolled

They know.

Fortwaynemobile says

. They were willing to ensnare America and burn it down in order to win elections. I’m tired of what Democrats are doing to America.

The didn’t want a reality show host running America. I think that’s a fair fear.

BoomAndBustCycle says

The didn’t want a reality show host running America. I think that’s a fair fear.

They have no problem with electing actual clowns to the Senate, but "reality show host".... oh, the horror!

The election was a fraud.
The decision to use mail in ballots in several states was illegal; the governors didn’t have authority over voting methods.
Therefore, there was intent to commit fraud.
Samples of in person votes showed a ratio of votes Trump:Biden vastly different from mailed ballots which had unusually high Biden votes.
The number of non legal voters was vast.
The dead registered to vote in droves. They voted for Biden.
Voter participation was absurd: no election can expect a turnout of 85%; how can there be 100%, up to 700%?
Etc. ,etc.
I hope they throw the book at the cheaters.

BoomAndBustCycle says

The didn’t want a reality show host running America. I think that’s a fair fear.

Which is why they gave him 11M more votes than 2016.

Without the Fraud being deducted.