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Election fraud deniers have what's called "electile dysfunction"

She was perfectly clear - where is the attack angle, there is none. SNL is not funny either, never has been.

Ted Cruz agreed to give the oral argument for the PA case if it goes to SCOTUS

#fuckSNL

So because she's annoying, her testimony is somehow irrelevant or inadmissible?

I'm completely done with the legacy media and hollywood with their constant propaganda of shoving alternative realities in my face in order to condition my thoughts and beliefs. They've degenerated into nothing more than petulant children. Screaming tantrums, name calling, nit picking, childishly simplistic and dishonest arguing tactics, it's all there.

I heard that it is done deliberately.. Like typos in filings etc. so that media reports it and mocks.
Left is so full of hate that they are making people watch the real news.

Trump does this all the time on twitter. It is more stupid not be heard than write something stupid to be heard.
It is funny how they tries to manage Biden Gaffes.

It is always easy on liberal/conservative as they don't have much hate to force ideas on others.
Loony Left and Right get triggered easily.

SNL is still broadcast? I thought it was cancelled years ago.

Great example of humorless left-wing "comedy"

BoomAndBustCycle says

I watched the SNL spoof of her and thought it couldn’t be based off a real live witness. Boy was I wrong. This is who you are aligning yourselves with.

"Support strong women"

"This strong women is so stupid hahahaha"

What's SNL?

porkchopexpress says

What's SNL?

It was a television comedy show about 40 years ago. Now it's just a fucking disaster.

If they are attacking her that means the media is well aware of the fraud, otherwise nobody would know who she is.

Selective much? There is a ton of evidence of election fraud, elites stole the election for their benefit, and ready to put in placeholder Biden in the office. People did not elect him. There is another video of ballot boxes being counted in secret, and all sorts of other evidence. Of course left dismisses everything and just says "nothing here, shut up you fucking peasants and stop looking at it". Well it doesn't work that way, if I can't vote with a ballot, I'm voting with a rifle. Dismissing concerns doesn't work in any relationship.

www.youtube.com/embed/zG2RkKBHX0M

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1336117667015630849

This is why this election is SO important and why Trump must stay in office. This segment on Tucker is explosive.

porkchopexpress says

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1336117667015630849

This is why this election is SO important and why Trump must stay in office. This segment on Tucker is explosive.

wow!

this is really wow, I wonder why it is not on MSM

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says

Selective much? There is a ton of evidence of election fraud, elites stole the election for their benefit, and ready to put in placeholder Biden in the office. People did not elect him. There is another video of ballot boxes being counted in secret, and all sorts of other evidence. Of course left dismisses everything and just says "nothing here, shut up you fucking peasants and stop looking at it". Well it doesn't work that way, if I can't vote with a ballot, I'm voting with a rifle. Dismissing concerns doesn't work in any relationship.

www.youtube.com/embed/zG2RkKBHX0M

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says

Melissa Carone is the voice of God.

No one can question her divinity and infallibility, unless they want to expose themselves as tools of Satan!

That certainly explains the hair.

Wow Godspeed those smart and righteous Indian immigrants. The black rep. womynx is dumb and high, she should go fuck her ugly lesbo self with a baton. These are the modern Democrats, white cat harridans and black trans-xir hobo meth heads. Who elects these shitheads? lol and people have the gall to question Melissa Carone? Fuck you very much

Notice, they haven't tried to refute a single argument, just attack witnesses and lawyers. It's not what Giuliani said, it's that his he was sweating hair dye.

theoakman says

Notice, they haven't tried to refute a single argument, just attack witnesses and lawyers. It's not what Giuliani said, it's that his he was sweating hair dye.

Ugh... this whole thing is pure crap. We're in a lose lose situation in all honesty. Trump gets in through legal means and there's going to be massive riots as the babies have a temper tantrum. Covid now becomes a disease that kills everyone as well, and I think we're currently seeing the ramp up out of fear Trump has something to get him a victory. Anti-Trumpers and even some independents will be swayed into thinking he's trying to become a dictator which causes more unrest. Maybe loses support/votes of 2-3 Senators making him a lame duck policy wise, not just 2nd term.

Biden gets in and everyone just suffers and the potential Kamala Harris Presidency is the worst case scenario. Biden is a lame duck by default without the Senate and having lost House seats. Doesn't have SCOTUS. So nothing gets done beside token EO's or getting rid of Trump EO's. War/conflict somewhere for no good reason would be the other negative as Biden is likely beholden to the MIC after almost 50 years in government.

I don't have a very positive outlook on the next 4 years. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I'm preparing for the worst.

theoakman says

Notice, they haven't tried to refute a single argument, just attack witnesses and lawyers. It's not what Giuliani said, it's that his he was sweating hair dye.

Because it’s all words... it’s not actual evidence. Of course your gonna attack the least credible witnesses ... that’s what lawyers in court do everyday.

Dbr6 says

this is really wow, I wonder why it is not on MSM

The Indian woman seemed credible... but there’s still very little actual hard evidence she presented to pursue. I’d like to hear a Democratic challengers opinion of their experience in a Trump deep red county polling station some comparison. Or even the opinion of someone else working with her that day.

The Democratic chairwoman, came across emotional and unprofessional, but I imagine was worked up because the testimony was equivalent to slander of all democrat poll workers in Detroit without any representatives to counter the Indian woman’s arguments. Basically the Indian woman was saying... everyone working their was untrained and dumb and I’m smart and I saw stupid people tabulating votes wrong and ignoring challenges out of ignorance... some possibly willful ignorance. I didn’t want to actually make a fuss or Id get kicked out. Credible and believable theory... but not sure what kind of jury or judge would rule without more hard evidence.

BoomAndBustCycle says

Because it’s all words... it’s not actual evidence. Of course your gonna attack the least credible witnesses ... that’s what lawyers in court do everyday.

You understand the difference between a witness and someone that has voluntarily signed a sworn affidavit unsolicited, right? I can be a witness to a murder and unknowingly be off with who I thought committed the crime with no consequence. These people are risking real consequences if they're lying and found out. Being a witness and volunteering a sworn affidavit are two different things.

You also mention evidence. They are the evidence. They need to subpoena the people accused of wrong doing, get them under oath, under threat of perjury in a he said, she said scenario. It's not an ideal situation. But under the bright lights and potential jail sentence, people speak and admit wrong doing. Plea deals. Saying there's not evidence it flat out wrong.

BoomAndBustCycle says

The Indian woman seemed credible... but there’s still very little actual hard evidence she presented to pursue. I’d like to hear a Democratic challengers opinion of their experience in a Trump deep red county polling station some comparison. Or even the opinion of someone else working with her that day.

The point about D observers in a deep red county is reasonable - if something like that is brought up, election there needs to be invalidated, just like it needs to be done for this particular county. After that is done once or twice, observers will be able to OBSERVE and not get kicked out. Otherwise, there will be no trust in elections. + all counting process needs to be recorded. I am undecided if enough votes were stolen from trump to flip the election, I am sure shenanigans have been going on for some time (this is not the first election with likely fraud - see Florida/Bush), but this type of crap needs to stop so voters can be confident that their vote actually means something. The only way of stopping is punishment for such treatment of observers and re-voting in these places.

WookieMan says

there's going to be massive riots as the babies have a temper tantrum

That has already happened. I think Trump knows how to deal with this. As to why not before, it's because Trump was OK with local officials doing nothing and making themselves look bad.

WookieMan says

Being a witness and volunteering a sworn affidavit are two different things. / These people are risking real consequences if they're lying and found out.

Do you realize the effort necessary to prove they are lying would involve? It’s not like they are claiming anything that can be proven or disproven! So yes, they can walk away without any fear... name someone in prison for lying about “how they felt intimidated” in an affadavit?

Feelings are just that... feelings and hunches aren’t facts that can be prosecuted either way! So no, I don’t think their signing an affadavit about feeling their was fraud or thinking they saw something is going to get them in trouble. (And they know it) She was very careful about never claiming anyone did anything illegal... she always just claimed they were uninformed and making “mistakes”. And how she “felt” she was treated ok cause she was brown and white male challengers were being kicked out.

WookieMan says

You also mention evidence. They are the evidence. They need to subpoena the people accused of wrong doing, get them under oath, under threat of perjury in a he said, she said scenario. It's not an ideal situation. But under the bright lights and potential jail sentence, people speak and admit wrong doing. Plea deals. Saying there's not evidence it flat out wrong.

Yup.

Convictions happen on eyewitness evidence all the time. Before the 20th Century, almost all evidence was eyewitness evidence. It still is the primary source of evidence in most cases.

When did signed affidavits under penalty of perjury become "Questionable"? Only last month.

"Unprecedented"

BoomAndBustCycle says

feelings and hunches aren’t facts that can be prosecuted either way!

Correct. Unless you sign away your life claiming an illegal activity occurred. With the consequence of being proven wrong being jail time. It's not complicated.

You're confusing witnessing a crime and being asked to testify, versus voluntarily being a witness of something you claim you saw.

First scenario you saw a guy shoot someone. You were 50' away and agree to testify that you believe to know the shooter from a line up. There are zero consequences for being wrong, having bad eyesight, etc.

Now if you come forward during an investigation with information, sworn under law, it's held to a higher standard. Why the fuck would you risk perjury if you didn't believe an illegal act occurred? You don't have to like the people in these election hearings. The one chick sounds dumb as fuck. Doesn't mean it's not true. That's the point of a sworn affidavit. You saw/witnessed something that you felt needed to be addressed and you're willing to put your ass under the microscope.

Hollywood has jaded what actual law is. My sister is a lawyer and dad was a lawyer. Unless you're close with one or study law, you generally have no clue what you're talking about. I was inches from becoming a lawyer and decided against it. All this said, I doubt this stuff will change election results. Hopefully though it leads to election reforms. Mail in voting is pure bull shit. It should have never happened, but the cat is out of the bag. Hopefully our elected official man/woman up and fix the problem. We need voter ID yesterday and not tomorrow. Whoever is pushing for that gets my vote. Legit don't care about any other policy. My faith in elections is in the dumpster.

Hopefully our elected official man/woman up and fix the problem.

Trouble is, there is no "problem" in the eyes of the Dems. The Dems have been working for years to do away with voter ID, bring on same day registration, motor voter, and even to allow illegals to vote. All this is to allow fraud, and the successful implementation of mail-in voting is a proven vote fraud vehicle the Dems will never give up. Now add in the Dominion voter machines.

The only way we will get to Voter ID and paper ballots is if Trump wins and the public has the appetite to resist the constant media blaring of "Racism and Voter Suppression" to every attempt to insure an honest election without ballot stuffing fraud.

WookieMan says

You're confusing witnessing a crime and being asked to testify, versus voluntarily being a witness of something you claim you saw.

I’m just saying what the smarter Indian woman said can’t be disproven, so she has no risk against her... she was very careful with her wording of things. Saying she felt like she was treated better because she was brown... isn’t something anyone can refute legally. Saying she saw people making mistakes feeding ballots into machines can’t be disproven either. She can claim she must have been mistaken if they audited everything and the numbers didn’t line up.

BoomAndBustCycle says

WookieMan says

You're confusing witnessing a crime and being asked to testify, versus voluntarily being a witness of something you claim you saw.

I’m just saying what the smarter Indian woman said can’t be disproven, so she has no risk against her... she was very careful with her wording of things. Saying she felt like she was treated better because she was brown... isn’t something anyone can refute legally. Saying she saw people making mistakes feeding ballots into machines can’t be disproven either. She can claim she must have been mistaken if they audited everything and the numbers didn’t line up.

That is testimony. Everything can be proven or disproven with evidence if you audit it. They can easily audit ballots, but they haven't, and they won't.

BoomAndBustCycle says

I’m just saying what the smarter Indian woman said can’t be disproven, so she has no risk against her...

She can be called as a (hostile) witness and cross examined.

Dude: Affidavits are evidence. Eyewitness accounts are evidence. It's up to the Jury to weigh them.

The "CSI effect" is being exhibited here - most court cases depend on witnesses and expert testimony, even today.

Looks like the lesbo negro called for violence on Trump supporters and has been stripped of committees and is facing further disciplinary action. But yeah, Ms Carone is not a credible witness! Debooonked! lol you can't make this shit up

NoCoupForYou says

BoomAndBustCycle says

I’m just saying what the smarter Indian woman said can’t be disproven, so she has no risk against her...

She can be called as a (hostile) witness and cross examined.

There's that and the person she accuses of wrong doing gets put under oath. If this person doesn't come forward , in the case of this Indian women, the person that committed the act just gets away with it. It really isn't something to take lightly. It's similar to yelling fire in a crowed theater if the accusation is proven false. Indian woman goes to jail. It can get you in big trouble. Not worth signing sworn affidavits if you're not confident in what you saw. And frankly it's a lot of effort for even one person to go through let alone hundreds.

It's okay to not like Trump B&B, but at least acknowledge more is going on than the ditzy gal who may or may not have concrete evidence of fraud. Just because she's a bimbo doesn't mean something didn't happen. And as usual the left will tear down a woman even though they're supposedly the party that supports women. It's a fucking joke.

They're all making fun of Carone whose demeanor can be somewhat typical of Italian-American heritage, so that's ok, but everything else is rays-cyst in leftoid clown world, lol the cognitive dissonance must be shrieking