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Shaman says

A SCIENTIST would remain agnostic about the possible existence of the unknown.
But that’s a pretty high bar to leap for 99% of everyone who thinks they are a scientist.

But on the other hand, for purposes of persuading public opinion like, say, a POLITICIAN, anything without mountains of proof or anything that’s even just unpopular or unfashionable can be easily discounted.

Which are you?

False dichotomy - but which one do you think I am?

I qualified my statements. With known physics, we're dying as a species in this solar system. It's CONCEIVABLE we will travel to another solar system in a generational starship that rotates to simulate gravity. The problem with this is taking enough energy along to make the trip. We'd first have to have the ability to terraform planets to some extent. We'd need robots to build habitats. The ship would have to be long term self sustaining, a world upon itself.

Scientists do not remain agnostic either. I explained what I thought the problems were. I'm an engineer, as a kid I had all these ideas about colonizing space and so on, as an adult, I know a lot more.

Also, with regard to politicians, I find it's must more useful to assume they are lying until you can gain independent evidence they are not. Assuming they tell the truth until you get independent evidence to conclude they are lying - that's a very inefficient way of going about it. They lie far more often than they tell the truth.

We can't get people to take a vaccine, you want to be put in an altered state, so you can travel a thousand years?

Imagine being cryogenic frozen for a thousand years. You'll come out with less resolution and bitrate than a Mp3 over Dial up internet.

It's now Proven!!!

I agree that without faster than light space travel being possible, a galactic federation is unnecessary and thus has low probability of existence.
But we don’t know as much as we think we do.
How could we? We just barely came down from the trees. And now we have primate who call themselves engineers and doctors and scientists and claim to know what is possible and what is not. As if their puny minds could encompass the totality of reality to know that.
Truly the folly of man is the only thing without limits.

Shaman says

I agree that without faster than light space travel being possible, a galactic federation is unnecessary and thus has low probability of existence.

Why do we think that spaceships are manned (aliened?) by biological life forms and not by advanced robots? And who says that evolution will result in advancement of human civilization, as opposed to creating a technology that will substitute/replace us?

Nobody here watched the X-Files? Where the aliens' grand plan was to colonize the Earth through a virus that changed the human DNA into that of the alien, with the help a small group of wealthy, powerful people. Change this up to have the virus delivered as a "vaccine" instead.

When the plan failed, the Syndicate decided to produce a virus to wipe out the majority of the population.

Everyone here has probably seen this:

www.youtube.com/embed/BEWz4SXfyCQ

LOL the hour glass theory.

Millions of years to get here, we're teetering on world destruction in tens of thousands of years, but they believe once we master interstellar travel. We'll go on for billions of years.

LOL

If every concept is a problem to which if you concentrate long enough there can be a solution. Then why not solve mortality. If every concept is doable, then make an elixir that you take one time and you live forever, or until something kills you. It's concepts like interplanetary travel that takes resources and minds from curing cancer. Not treating curing.

Dbr6 says

Why do we think that spaceships are manned (aliened?) by biological life forms and not by advanced robots?

Could be. But any truly advanced AI is going to want a meat suit. It’s just so fucking dope to experience reality with five senses rather than two. Most of what gives enjoyment to life is tied to sensory input. Or why else would we have a sexy photo thread on this site that just won’t die?
Face it: flesh is fucking fantastic for living as a sentient being.

Tenpoundbass says

Then why not solve mortality.

That solution is closer than you know.
And the trick is, there’s more than one solution. There’s more than ten! Do your own research, but my favorite involves epigenetics and retroviral DNA editing.
If you can cling to life for thirty more years, AND have some serious coin to spend, chances are you won’t die in the next fifty. And if you can last that long, it won’t be old age that kills you.

While driving by Moffett Field at night a year ago I saw a light like a plane come in down to the field way too fast to be any normal aircraft, and then right before hitting the ground disappear in a big green flash.

I still don't know wtf that was. Guy in the car behind me got a couple of seconds of it on video and posted it to Reddit, but he didn't get the green flash.

I've read on some sites that other people have seen similar things, usually at military bases.

Might just have been a tiny meteor I guess.

I have the same recurring wet dream about aliens. Wife gets pissed cuz we have to change the sheets.

@patrick I think we both chatted about that night on here and I saw it in SD when I was driving home. It was East of Poway which I was heading toward on my commute home. Might have been in Utah for all I know.

With recent reports, it seems they may be real. If not some hi-tech shit.

Oh wait, nevermind. The earth (center of universe) is only 10K years or some shit. Impossible. My bad.

Shaman says

Could be. But any truly advanced AI is going to want a meat suit. It’s just so fucking dope to experience reality with five senses rather than two. Most of what gives enjoyment to life is tied to sensory input. Or why else would we have a sexy photo thread on this site that just won’t die?
Face it: flesh is fucking fantastic for living as a sentient being.

An AI's sensory input can be entirely simulated. It wouldn't even have need for material things to have any experience. Just electrical impulses.

just_passing_through says

patrick I think we both chatted about that night on here and I saw it in SD when I was driving home.

I kinda remember that. But I don't think it could have been the exact same one. I'm pretty sure it was on this side of the east bay hills, and coming right in to Moffett.

Patrick says

I kinda remember that. But I don't think it could have been the exact same one. I'm pretty sure it was on this side of the east bay hills, and coming right in to Moffett.

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Yeah, mine seemed like it was just over the mountain (similar to East Bay hills) I was heading toward as well. But then it was on the news that people all over CA saw it so I just guessed that it was much farther away than I'd thought.

Perhaps we did see different events. Maybe there was a meteor shower around that time?

just_passing_through says

some hi-tech shit.

100%

Patrick says

just_passing_through says

patrick I think we both chatted about that night on here and I saw it in SD when I was driving home.

I kinda remember that. But I don't think it could have been the exact same one. I'm pretty sure it was on this side of the east bay hills, and coming right in to Moffett.

This one was in Japan, but it's very similar to what I saw. Only the one in Japan is brighter both coming in and flashing, and did not flash green.

And hey, maybe this happened because someone doesn't want us listening to the aliens:

https://www.usnews.com/news/news/articles/2020-11-19/huge-puerto-rico-radio-telescope-to-close-in-blow-to-science

Aliens are OK. One gave my wife a great recipe for fried chicken and said it tasted like people.

Love the Unsolved Mysteries music in that video. Needs more Robert Stack voiceover, however.

Aliens are really good at sex.

porkchopexpress says

Aliens are really good at sex.

Umm, that anal probe you got wasn't sex.......

Patrick says

And hey, maybe this happened because someone doesn't want us listening to the aliens:

https://www.usnews.com/news/news/articles/2020-11-19/huge-puerto-rico-radio-telescope-to-close-in-blow-to-science

I wish! But really just neglect because it;s Puerto Rico, America's vassal state. If they had wanted the facility to do science, they just needed a hundred million for upgrades. Compare this to the Various Colliders worldwide that get Billions of dollars in funding.

Patrick says

This one was in Japan, but it's very similar to what I saw.

Yup, same here. Although the one I saw was moving faster. That or it was coming in more straight down and at less of an angle.

HeadSet says

porkchopexpress says

Aliens are really good at sex.

Umm, that anal probe you got wasn't sex.......

Perception is reality

I'd rather have anal probe space aliens as overlords than Chinese president She.

just_passing_through says

I'd rather have anal probe space aliens as overlords than Chinese president She.

We have no choice but to have Chinese overlords from Jan 20 next year.

just_passing_through says

I'd rather have anal probe space aliens as overlords than Chinese president She.

Three guys got stranded on an island. Two of the three were wimps and the other was a tough, strong guy.
One day, they met a tribe. The tribe chief told them that they could either have Death or Bunga-bung. He asked the first wimp: Death or Bunga-bunga? The wimp replied: Well, I want to live so I guess Bunga-bunga. He got ass raped.
The Chief asked the second wimp: Death or Bunga-bunga? He replied: I don't want to die, so Bunga-bunga. He got ass raped.
Then the Chief asked the tough guy: Death or Bunga-bunga? He replied: I don't want to get ass raped so I'll take Death! Everyone in the tribe then chants: Oooooooo! He choose Death! Death! Death by Bunga-bunga!!!

Be careful what you ask for

Oldie but a goodie!