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zzyzzx says

sadly this shit was on news and is real. :(

Fauci is a fraud.

Actually you can be too safe. It's called not allowing your immune system to adapt. Next thing you know the common cold will be killing people because we didn't let the system work. They'll call it Coldvid and make us wear masks on every hole of our body.

WookieMan says

Next thing you know the common cold will be killing people

Common cold is a coronavirus too, iirc.

Eric Holder says

WookieMan says

Next thing you know the common cold will be killing people

Common cold is a coronavirus too, iirc.

Either way, it's all stupid. Texas lifted mask mandates and EO's for covid. Moving in the right direction. I've said it will be May/June when things are back to normal. Has nothing to do with the vaccine either. Given what is being manufactured and my network, I should know more than 4 people that have gotten the 2 shot version of this. No one wants it.

WookieMan says

I've said it will be May/June when things are back to normal

Yes, coronaviruses go through two "humps" and die off by May of the second year.

Eric Holder says

WookieMan says

I've said it will be May/June when things are back to normal

Yes, coronaviruses go through two "humps" and die off by May of the second year.

I'm not even talking scientifically, though I do believe you're correct from my absolutely minimal scientific knowledge. Not being a smart ass, I do think you're correct.

Covid-19 can be real, but the story is manufactured about what it is. I never thought the medical field would be manipulated like it has been, but it has. It's a minor virus. It doesn't kill kids or working adults. It's of almost no threat to anyone besides a small sliver of the population. No different than any virus.

The "story" got their candidate in. As Patrick has mentioned does anyone know someone personally that has died? It's all 2nd hand or some cousin you haven't talked to in a decade plus. That's not a "scary" pandemic by any means.

WookieMan says

It doesn't kill kids or working adults. It's of almost no threat to anyone besides a small sliver of the population.

Even the official numbers bear this out. Look at your state data if it is online. For example, a Midwest state close to yours lists around 6500 deaths with the virus. About 75% of those who died were older than the average life expectancy in USA. No one wants to see anyone die a needless death, but is it really an emergency worthy of government intervention when a relatively small number of people who are living beyond average lifespans pass away? Also consider that the vast majority of even those who are older than average life expectancy who become infected, recover to lead a normal lifestyle for someone of their age. There is about an 88.2% survival rate over the age of 75, which is amazing considering most of us are likely to die of other/natural causes prior to age 75!

PeopleUnited says

There is about an 88.2% survival rate over the age of 75, which is amazing considering most of us are likely to die of other/natural causes prior to age 75!

Everything you say is correct. Which is why it doesn't compute from the word go roughly this time last year. Nothing made sense from the beginning. It was first noticed Dec 2019 (supposedly) in a city the size of NYC in China. Only Wuhan got hammered in China, yet the rest of the world got hammered? A respiratory infection in a country with a high smoking rate and tons of pollution? 1.4B people? Meanwhile media has you believe that half of Italy and Spain died.

Call me a skeptic, but everything from the beginning was 100% questionable. Maybe it was the goal of some grand agenda, but I have zero faith in our government. I was positive on Trump and would vote for him again, but Covid was his biggest failure in overreacting. He handed the keys to the car to the guy that botched AIDS. The fact Fauci isn't in jail already is disappointing

WookieMan says

I was positive on Trump and would vote for him again, but Covid was his biggest failure in overreacting. He handed the keys to the car to the guy that botched AIDS. The fact Fauci isn't in jail already is disappointing

I agree. Fauci, a big Hillary supporter, deliberately undermined Trump from the beginning, using the power of his office to corrupt both US politics and undermine the world economy.

Could Trump really not have known that Fauci was so corrupt?

Patrick says

Could Trump really not have known that Fauci was so corrupt?

Political theatre. Trump is still the villain in many eyes; the savior in others. The fact is he didn't do all the things he could have done and did things he should not have done.

Still, he's better than Biden.

Onvacation says

Patrick says

Could Trump really not have known that Fauci was so corrupt?

Political theatre. Trump is still the villain in many eyes; the savior in others. The fact is he didn't do all the things he could have done and did things he should not have done.

Still, he's better than Biden.

Maybe the swamp was bigger than he realized? We all put a lot of faith in a lot of people to do the right thing. Most people don't is the reality.

You'd think in the medical realm it would be better. Hippocratic oath and all. Damn near a decade of training and education. There's now evidence that one of the most trusted realms of society, that your life depends on, is trash. I'd say there are less bad cops than bad doctors and scientists at this point. I've had more bad experiences with doctors over cops...

WookieMan says

Maybe the swamp was bigger than he realized?

This. If you are one who wants to do the best for the country, it is hard to imagine the depth of the sellouts. You think others, at least those outside of direct politics, would have some greater interest than pure personal aggrandizement.

Communists with their gay agenda:
https://nypost.com/2021/03/03/china-makes-covid-19-anal-swabs-mandatory-for-foreigners/

Yeah, the "vaccine" kills a lot of people, but think of the money to be made!

Booger says

Communists with their gay agenda:
https://nypost.com/2021/03/03/china-makes-covid-19-anal-swabs-mandatory-for-foreigners/

“Some Japanese reported to our embassy in China that they received anal swab tests, which caused a great psychological pain,”

Yes, especially when the Japanese guy feels two hands on his waist when the swab goes in.

HeadSet says

“Some Japanese reported to our embassy in China that they received anal swab tests, which caused a great psychological pain,”

The Chinese have been waiting for this payback ever since WWII.

Patrick says

Yeah, the "vaccine" kills a lot of people, but think of the money to be made!

Not sure that the vaccine kills many. All stories I've heard have been mostly unpleasant though from people that have had taken it. Why take a vaccine where the math says you're lucky (10-20%) to even get covid and then once you do there's almost no risk of death. ~1% die but most of that is skewed to almost dead old people. Young people should not be taking this.

We'll see. Have a birthday dinner with a friend (40 year old) tonight that is getting the first shot at noon. Interested in getting some immediate feedback in the moment instead of 5 days later when they tell their story. My sister is still having issues with fatigue after her first round. My initial reaction from my stories is don't take this if you have an existing immune system issue like lupus. They're pumping it for those types, but I'm not liking the results.

Primary, secondary and then tertiary long term effects. Primary effects are the least. The secondary effects are already excessive from those I have heard from locally. One older gent around the corner possibly dead, two out of three others got very sick with muscle aches, pain, weakness, and lack of coordination after the second shot, one friend who says he did OK after the second shot so far.

The 'time bomb' effect on the basis of later challenges could be the coup d'etat. Those would be remote enough to have plausible deniability about association with vaccine.
Of course, who knows what the fuck they plan on using the genetic implantation for.

Long term effects is the reason I won't take it in conjunction with it coming out way to fast. But also just the math. There's literally no point in taking it for someone my age and health. I would die of something else before covid statistically speaking. I'm frankly confused why people my age are getting the vaccine.

Given the feedback I've gotten it seems like they're giving themselves Covid with each shot and it last for a couple days to weeks. I'll just get Covid IF I even get it. I'll take those odds all day.

My wifes telling me about the increase in child suicides coming into hospital, this shit has to stop. Guy I know telling me about 9yo family friend tried to hang himself, 9yo wtf. The lockdown have done far more harm and done who knows what kind of long term damage to our kids.

Fauci should hang for his fraud. No one alive has caused more pointless suffering than he did.

And all the county health commissioners without balls who imposed the ridiculous lockdown orders should at the very least be fired, and perhaps jailed for abuse of power.

RC2006 says

My wifes telling me about the increase in child suicides coming into hospital, this shit has to stop. Guy I know telling me about 9yo family friend tried to hang himself, 9yo wtf. The lockdown have done far more harm and done who knows what kind of long term damage to our kids.

Lockdowns plus constant drip of white guilt in education propaganda.

WookieMan says

Not sure that the vaccine kills many.

It does look like a noticeable number of people drop dead after getting it.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-16/norway-vaccine-fatalities-among-people-75-and-older-rise-to-29
https://nypost.com/2021/01/15/23-die-in-norway-after-receiving-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/
https://www.freep.com/story/news/health/2021/02/18/macomb-covid-vaccine-death-daniel-thayne-simpson/4380833001/

But then, these may be mostly the same people who are supposedly "dying" of Wuhan virus, people on death's door to begin with.

@Booger

I believe it, but cannot find it at https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.html (why does the image capitalize everything? that's certain to break the link)

Where did you find the original image?

So my 40 year friend that got round one yesterday said her arm hurts pretty bad. She's a macho chick too if that makes sense. Acts tough all the time. In solid shape, not fat. No reason to fear covid, has no immune issues.

She seemed off at dinner last night and when we played some games afterward. So my first experience witnessing someone hours after getting it have solidified 100% that I'm not getting it. Factor in stories I hear here and other places, I won't get it.

Maybe I have too much free time to look at this type of stuff, but I'm appalled how unintelligent a lot of people I know are about the topic. They just say they'll get the vaccine. A lot of brainwashing and peer pressure happening. They get upset when I say I'll never take it or at least wait 5 years minimum to witness any side effects.

This isn't some proven vaccine that has been around since the 50's. We're talking 2 months versus 50, 60, 70+ years for some vaccines. I alway reference this, but we thought drilling holes in people's heads what effective treatment at one point. And that wasn't that long ago. I trust docs for traumatic injury, but don't trust the medical field for much else. Just take care of your body and a virus like this should be nothing.

I got the first shot of Moderna vaccine a couple of days ago.

I don’t know if I had any side effects except that my arm was sensitive at the injection location.
I bumped into my car with my arm and said ouch.

The guy who gave me the shot said he took it easy and took Tyenol after his second shot.

Evidently the second Moderna is the one that I might not like.

I hope I don’t croak, I want to live to spend the money I make with GME stonk.

clambo says

I got the first shot of Moderna vaccine a couple of days ago.

Not sure which one she got. She wouldn't know if I asked her. Either way, I'm giving it time to see what potential long term side effects are. I'm younger and in relatively good shape, so there's really no risk for me besides getting into a car accident on the way to the doc if I were to get vaccinated. I'll stay home on this one.

Not meant as disrespect to those that get vaccinated or will be. Everyone has different reasoning and as the left will tend to say, it's your body, your choice. My big worry is the government forcing it on everyone by restricting things like travel or other things because you don't have it. Or businesses being allowed to limit access because you don't have a vaccine.

It's chill by me, but we go towards Chicago and the burbs it's a dystopian nightmare of people wearing face diapers. Government forcing business owners to reduce capacity by 50%. We give them an inch they'll take your freedom.

WookieMan says

We give them an inch they'll take your freedom.

True. And they have an army of blithering "anti-racist" but completely racists idiots behind them who have no clue how they are being played.

Maybe utter economic collapse will distract those idiots and get them focused on the true enemies of the public: the oligarchy, especially the tech oligarchy.

Patrick says

WookieMan says

We give them an inch they'll take your freedom.

True. And they have an army of blithering "anti-racist" but completely racists idiots behind them who have no clue how they are being played.

Maybe utter economic collapse will distract those idiots and get them focused on the true enemies of the public: the oligarchy, especially the tech oligarchy.

We'll be racist for not getting the vaccine. Blacks and hispanics have a much higher likelihood of passing from Covid. So us not getting it by default is racist. It's coming. Didn't even think of that path.

The can of worms opened with this is staggering when you look at all the directions this can go and be manipulation. Put fear into people that they'll die and you have control. Not me though.

WookieMan says

We'll be racist for not getting the vaccine. Blacks and hispanics have a much higher likelihood of passing from Covid. So us not getting it by default is racist.

LOL, no: me not getting it is ANTI-RACIST, because it leaves MOAR "vaccine" for the coloreded folks who need it the most!

Arizona and West Virginia reopening at 100% capacity.