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WookieMan says

joshuatrio says

All in all, she sounds pretty credible, seems well read, and if she's right, we're only beginning to experience problems. Covid is nothing compared to what's coming.

I'm for most vaccines. And there is some evidence existing ones have issues. I still didn't hesitate to vaccinate my kids though. They are of value.

This one(s) is just too god damn new. For something that won't kill my kids or someone my age in even fair health, I'm taking a hard pass for 5 years. I don't take the flu vax anyway and I've gotten the flu. You're down for 2-3 days max. It sucks, but in hindsight it's nothing. And other flu strains kill people to this day WITH vaccines that are FDA approved.

We've always been selective vaxxers. Look at the vax risk and if it's really needed. My kids are mostly vaxxed and we did a delayed vax schedule due to potential autism risk and to space out the numerous injections as to go easier on the body. I do agree that traditional vaccines can provide value with little risk.

But yeah, there is nothing known on this covid shot yet - and too many side effects - not to mention adverse reactions that are becoming known.

zzyzzx says

WookieMan says

Or you can use cash.

That's what I do. I don't trust servers with a CC.

Another good reason to tip in cash is that it's off the books, or at least up to the server to say how much they got.

Cash is much more valuable to the server than a tip on a credit card.

joshuatrio says

We've always been selective vaxxers. Look at the vax risk and if it's really needed. My kids are mostly vaxxed and we did a delayed vax schedule due to potential autism risk and to space out the numerous injections as to go easier on the body. I do agree that traditional vaccines can provide value with little risk.

I'm fine with that. Not my place to tell/judge someone what they want to put in their or their kids bodies. I'd only question a proven vaccine and why someone wouldn't take it. I DON'T trust this vaccine(s). It's now being played the J&J is a different type. Yes, but that doesn't make the other vaccines any less shitty. We have no clue.

Putting out 10's of millions of vaccines is no small feat. Just production wise, fuck the research. This happened in under a year. It amazes me how many people (their right) are willing to put this shit in their bodies with almost no evidence.

Cases are increasing again here in IL with a high vax rate. Data and math says that's not possible if close to 1/3rd of the state has been vaccinated. But it doesn't add up with how many have been vaccinated. Spring break is not an excuse for increased cases IF the vaccines work. It should be plummeting.

I'm genuinely concerned for some friends/family that have gotten any of the shots. Wife is out for now with J&J pause (thank god), but the vax shamming is going to be rough. I give zero shits about telling people to fuck off.

WookieMan says

With kids, a beer and a cocktail we're at about $120 w/ tip at restaurants. 4 x 120 = 480pts. Eating out every other week at that place is about 12,480pts annually.

12k points annually? Thats cute.
$120 at a sit down restaurant doesnt get me far with my wife alone.....lol. Cost of living seems to be very different in IL or you go to dirt cheap restaurants.....No wonder you said before you cant move to SoCal.

Bitcoin says

2k points annually? Thats cute.

From sit down dining, from one restaurant. WH asked for the math. I gave it to him in an honest response.... I know that's foreign to some... I carry 60k-300k SW points at all times. I was just showing what eating out could bring in.

Bitcoin says

No wonder you said before you cant move to SoCal.

I won't. Not I can't. Math and logic are not your best skills.

Bitcoin says

$120 at a sit down restaurant doesnt get me far with my wife alone

You're overpaying for shit food. CA has some of the worst and most overpriced food of any place I've visited in the country. A user here recommended a place in Palm Springs I'd been to. Pure shit. Also a bunch of gay vegan and you have to eat healthy type places that fucking suck. CA is not a foodie destination by any stretch.

Go to Chicago, NYC or the South for good food. I think Patrick would agree with Chicago being a good food town. I know we have some Southerns and a few East Coasters. You need to get off the bike or your dog and check out other places. You're talking out your ass at this point. CA restaurants are pure profit with high real estate expenses. So they skimp on the food itself. Authentic Mexican you might do okay with as your government is just chill with letting them in.

Donald says

WookieMan says

WookieMan says

They can't do anything with it

I should clarify. Besides swiping it in the restaurant itself. If they try to use the number and CCV on the back online, it almost always needs a zip and matching address. They wouldn't know that.

Yes, not like they could Google it

They'd have to guess which address is the one. I have I think 7-8 linked to my name. My name is also common as in something like Brian Smith. Good luck getting the transaction to go through after fucking up the address or zip so many times. Either way, I can call in and dispute the charge. Haven't lost one yet out of 8-10.

If you really want privacy and protection, change your name. Common first and common last name. I have it easy with a very common first name and a somewhat common last name. There's about 30 people with my same name in the Chicagoland area.

I did this as part of my past job. Finding someone with a common name was much, much more difficult. I generally had other information like an address too.

Remember the person grabbing your info has to have it shipped somewhere. Depending on the amount purchased, they may be looking at a felony. The vendor also has liability as well. CC's are the most secure form of money transfer. They want it that way knowing people won't pay it off and they can charge insane amounts of interest. They pass the fraud off to the merchant anyway or raise fees.

Donald says

WookieMan says

WookieMan says

They can't do anything with it

I should clarify. Besides swiping it in the restaurant itself. If they try to use the number and CCV on the back online, it almost always needs a zip and matching address. They wouldn't know that.

Yes, not like they could Google it

Who gives a fuck? All my CCs are zero liability. All I need to do is to report transactions as fraudulent and they magically go away.

Eric Holder says

Who gives a fuck? All my CCs are zero liability. All I need to do is to report transactions as fraudulent and they magically go away.

Yup. Googling someone also doesn't mean you'll get the right person either. If it was that easy every criminal would be a server. Just steal CC numbers all day and get discounted food and get paid for doing it.

WookieMan says

Eric Holder says

Who gives a fuck? All my CCs are zero liability. All I need to do is to report transactions as fraudulent and they magically go away.

Yup. Googling someone also doesn't mean you'll get the right person either. If it was that easy every criminal would be a server. Just steal CC numbers all day and get discounted food and get paid for doing it.

People like to worry about wrong things.

"DANISH DRUG REGULATOR FAINTS AT PRESS CONFERENCE ANNOUNCING ASTRAZENECA VACCINE HALT"

Apparently, she got the vaccine the day before the announcement. Guess she got the news about the cancellation too late, LOL!

WookieMan says

Bitcoin says

$120 at a sit down restaurant doesnt get me far with my wife alone

You're overpaying for shit food.

12k points annually is really cute. Good luck on that amazing vacation. ;)

$120 doesnt get you far in a good restaurant either, doesnt matter what state. BTW., San Francisco has amazing places to eat (have been there many times but I live in SoCal luckily)....any food in the world can be found in SF. Ain't going far with $120 bucks....plus kids and drinks? No way. Not even if the kids share a small fries lol

Ceffer says

Apparently, she got the vaccine the day before the announcement. Too late, LOL!

I've been there. Lucky it appears to be somewhat carpeted. She was out. Mine was on tile and I woke up in the ER. Having good neighbors is nice. They cleaned the blood bath up. My kids found me. Had it happened when no one was home I don't know the outcome. Blood was everywhere.

5 staples in my head. Ironically enough it was from the flu. My throat was so fucked I couldn't swallow liquids or eat... for 3 days. Yeah, that caught up with me. Couple hours on an IV drip and I felt massively better.

Don't take this vaccine. Period. End of story. No one knows what this shit can do.

WookieMan says

Don't take this vaccine.

Thanks Dr. WOokie. What about your body your choice?

Bitcoin says

WookieMan says

Don't take this vaccine.

Thanks Dr. WOokie

Great contribute as usual. 15 now. lol. Took AF over a decade to get 30. On pace for a year to hit that amount. Congrats.

WookieMan says

I've been there. Lucky it appears to be somewhat carpeted. She was out. Mine was on tile and I woke up in the ER.

Did you faint because of the vaccine, or something else? @WookieMan

As we have seen, onvacation (with probably 3 burner accounts) has me on ignore but then replies to my comments and even references my comments. Lol. you can see anyone's comments if you are not logged in....just fyi.
Ignores dont mean much. I ignore usually anything you write starting at the second sentence. Dont need the ignore function for that :)

Patrick says

Did you faint because of the vaccine, or something else?

This was 3 years ago. I went to the doc and they couldn't give me anything for the throat. I could barely swallow anything. I was in good shape but dehydrated and had not eaten a damn thing in 3 days. Got up off the couch and don't remember a thing after until I'm in the ER. Ambulance ride I didn't even notice. I knew the EMT's too.

I'd rather deal with a flu though instead of taking the vaccine. My outcome for that flu is about as rare as it can get. Everyone I know that's gotten covid literally doesn't notice it. If that woman in the video had gotten the vax, it almost certainly was a reaction from it. That happened if she's alone at home and hits something hard, she's dead. My family was home. I was lucky. It was legit bad. Shirt and pants tossed because of blood and neighbors spent 40 minutes cleaning up.

Bitcoin says

San Francisco has amazing places to eat

Have to agree with this, no matter how much this city turned to shit in the last 10 years. Probably among the best cities for restaurant food before covid. In general CA dairy, organic grass-fed meat, fruit and produce are outstanding. Like its wine they're overpriced but that's because of the high cost of living and policies/politics. Sure if I want to eat the best lobster I go to Maine, best BBQ in Texas etc. but across all cuisines CA food is at the top, with Asian/Indian and Mexican cuisine dominating but literally having a restaurant for every country in the world. House of Nanking in North Beach or Pakwan in the Tenderloin should be on every visitor's list.

Bitcoin says

As we have seen, onvacation (with probably 3 burner accounts) has me on ignore but then replies to my comments and even references my comments. Lol. you can see anyone's comments if you are not logged in....just fyi.

You do get he can see your quoted comments from other users, right? We've gone over this before.

If you're so convinced of this it should be easy to quote one response where you believe this occurred. Either way this comment should be flagged for being personal (talking about a user and not the topic) and for trashing the site.

You're free to go elsewhere or build your own forum. Patrick has offered to give anyone the keys to the car so to speak and do your own thing. Stop complaining. Stay on topic or at least respond to comments after actually reading them if the topic shifts. Not difficult.

WookieMan says

Bitcoin says

As we have seen, onvacation (with probably 3 burner accounts) has me on ignore but then replies to my comments and even references my comments. Lol. you can see anyone's comments if you are not logged in....just fyi.

You do get he can see your quoted comments from other users, right?

Yes, Sherlock. Its common sense. I am talking about him responding and using my line. He must have been logged out from his account (and burner accounts) in order to see it.
Ignores dont mean much. I usually ignore everything you say after your first sentence. You dont need an ignore function for that. Ignore function is used by some to pretend that they dont see the Bitcoin/Crypto success. People who missed out and were super off by their prediction that crypto will crash use the ignore function as a way to heal from their pain.

My advice is to keep ignoring because Bitcoin will continue its bull run (probably 150k by end of this year).

Bitcoin says

Yes, Sherlock. Its common sense. I am talking about him responding and using my line. He must have been logged out from his account (and burner accounts) in order to see it.

No proof. Thanks Sherlock ;) Keep bashing features of the site that you didn't build though and someone else did with no compensation.

lol. It's a simple fact. Sorry you didnt know that you can read anyones comments if you are logged out.....You should know this after being on the site for more than a year.
I am just pointing out one example where someone obviously read my comments and responded even though he has me on ignore. Its very easy to do too....just read while being logged out. Not sure why you are so surprised about it. .

Enjoy your jab.

94.5% of people who took the Moderna shot had a reaction.

Almost 10% had a severe reaction.

All this shit is on the FDA website.

FUCK THAT

Bitcoin says

lol. It's a simple fact. Sorry you didnt know that you can read anyones comments if you are logged out.....You should know this after being on the site for more than a year.
I am just pointing out one example where someone obviously read my comments and responded even though he has me on ignore. Its very easy to do too....just read while being logged out. Not sure why you are so surprised about it. .

Point to one comment where this happened? And you have proof. Until then I don't believe it.

We've discussed this before. I can read. I told YOU people can log out and read your comments. Sometimes by accident. All you have to do is provide a comment that you made that OV wouldn't see or wasn't quoted and show he's doing the tactic you're talking about. I don't think you can.

Wookie/Bitcoin,

I'm respectfully asking you guys to take your disagreements offline or to a different thread.

Let's please keep this on topic regarding covid vax shit.

joshuatrio says

Enjoy your jab.

Not one thinking person I've met can explain why you need this vax. That might be the extreme in that video or obviously even death. But WHY do you NEED the vaccine? Statistics don't lie. I'm not taking something for a virus that won't kill me. Beating a dead horse at this point. No thinking person can explain WHY.

Sad that soooooo many people have been brainwashed. Sad state of affairs. 30+ cases I personally know about. Not one needed to be hospitalized and ONLY one went to the doctor. This is a fucking joke.

WookieMan says

Bitcoin says

Yes, Sherlock. Its common sense. I am talking about him responding and using my line. He must have been logged out from his account (and burner accounts) in order to see it.

No proof. Thanks Sherlock ;) Keep bashing features of the site that you didn't build though and someone else did with no compensation.

Some people think quite highly of themselves.

Onvacation says

Some people think quite highly of themselves.

You logged out! Didn't you! lol.

Accusations shouldn't be just tossed about. BTC, provide the proof. I'm close to deleting those comments as it's about another user and the site. We can all disagree, but you're blaming the site now and not even giving a rebuttal to anything.

Patnet is not a Bitcoin site. Have people invested in it, yes. Just because no one wants to talk about it doesn't mean it's not a valid investment/gamble. You seem upset by this. There are probably thousands of crypto sites out here. Plant your seed of crypto knowledge on them.

About that vax.

Any smart people getting it? If so why?

Onvacation says

Any smart people getting it? If so why?

Liberals and Kommies are all VERY smart people. I recommend the mRNA jab to them all to demonstrate their customary brilliance.

WookieMan says

You logged out! Didn't you! lol.

Accusations shouldn't be just tossed about. BTC, provide the proof.

sure. here. It seems to be such a huuge surprise for you that people do that (ignore someone and still read his/her comments and react to it). Its no surprise Onvacation chimes in....he was the one :)

Onvacation says

About that vax.

Any smart people getting it? If so why?

def. smart. And yes, I got the J&J shot. Feel stronger and healthier. Maybe it gave me a superpower? If not, it will at least protect me from covid (scamdemic)

your body your choice....people need to relax....I am glad I got my shot and I am totally cool if others dont want it. Pretty sure It wont give me dementia, blood clot or kill me. But we'll see. :)

Bitcoin says

WookieMan says

You logged out! Didn't you! lol.

Accusations shouldn't be just tossed about. BTC, provide the proof.

sure. here. It seems to be such a huuge surprise for you that people do that (ignore someone and still read his/her comments and react to it). Its no surprise Onvacation chimes in....he was the one :)

Not going through your record setting pace of comments. Link it. You've manipulated comments and quotes in the past. A screenshot and edit afterwards are par for the course with you. Link something older than 7 days ago as you can no longer edit comments after that. Again, this shouldn't be so hard if you think OV is messing with you.

Screenshots don't count unless you get the computer date/time in there. Even then, just link it if it's older than 7 days and I might believe you. You searched out the post, so it should be easy to link it.

"Some 5,800 Americans contracted COVID-19 despite being fully vaccinated against the virus that causes it, federal officials said Thursday.

Of the 5,800 fully vaccinated people who were confirmed as so-called breakthrough cases, nearly 400 required treatment at hospitals and 74 died."

https://m.theepochtimes.com/5800-fully-vaccinated-americans-have-contracted-covid-19-74-dead-cdc_3777637.html/amp

At this rate, the vax is WAY more deadly than covid in it's most dangerous form.

joshuatrio says

At this rate, the vax is WAY more deadly than covid in it's most dangerous form.

Using your numbers I have 1.27% death rate. Keeping in mind that most of the breakthrough cases have been in the elderly, who have had up to 11% death rate from Covid, it’s still lower. I don’t think we can have much faith in these numbers though as they are very uncontrolled and hard to parse without a lot more information.

joshuatrio says

At this rate, the vax is WAY more deadly than covid in it's most dangerous form.

I'm just glad this stuff is even being reported by the MSM in many cases. It validates that vaccine passports are DOA. Basically they can't force you to get it if you want to travel. That was my biggest worry.

WookieMan says

joshuatrio says

At this rate, the vax is WAY more deadly than covid in it's most dangerous form.

I'm just glad this stuff is even being reported by the MSM in many cases. It validates that vaccine passports are DOA. Basically they can't force you to get it if you want to travel. That was my biggest worry.

Epoch times seems to be a thorn in MSM. They actually do informative reporting.

I wouldn't quite call them MSM, but it's a good start and they appear pretty reliable.

Totally understand, were in the same boat on travel. Not getting this injection.