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clambo says

I can afford it; I’ll just use the money I made with GME stonk.

clambo, nice to hear that you got out whole from GME!

Better than whole.

Actually I’m not out yet but I’m not underwater with GME yet either.
WFC is what I am really waiting for, my basis is $54 and I want to get out.

SunnyvaleCA says

Ben Shapiro seems to have survived Harvard Law School. I guess.

Eh. I know he's intelligent, but he's a total tool. And I think the degree is part of that. Talking fast so people can't hear the argument doesn't mean you came to the game with a good argument. That's his schtick.

I'm intelligent enough and did pre-law study. He's a motor mouth. That is an attempt to cover up some of his bull shit. And this is coming from someone that doesn't mind him. I just know what he's doing. I dealt with guys like him in college.

Tenpoundbass says

I think that's why Pence thinks he will have a shot, with the Republican voters that feel compelled to vote for the Establishment no matter how bad they are.
He will be the only Establishment class running in 2024.

Just like Jeb was the establishment candidate in 2016. Pence should and likely will have the same results Jeb got in the Primary.

https://notthebee.com/article/desantis-went-golfing-with-trump-today

What?

I‘m not saying anything! Just telling you that Ron DeSantis went golfing with Donald Trump today.

Prob nbd.

Maybe.

I'll vote for whoever will remove Israeli parasites most fervently.

Patrick says

https://notthebee.com/article/desantis-went-golfing-with-trump-today

What?

I‘m not saying anything! Just telling you that Ron DeSantis went golfing with Donald Trump today.

Prob nbd.

Maybe.

50% roughly of the country liked Trump whether the media admits it or not. He takes parts of all political parties and formulated a plan. I'm wondering if he's working on a 3rd party? The far right would still vote for him. Conservatives and Libertarians as well. He could split moderate Dems as well. The only roadblock would neocon conservatives bringing in a decent candidate, but not sure who that would be and is always the issue with 3rd parties.

Trump isn't a fan of Republicans or Democrats. It would not shock me to see him create a 3rd party. Call it the Freedom Party or some shit like that. I know he really wants to stick it to the Dems, but there are plenty of R's on his shit list. He can fuck them all over with a viable 3rd party. It would make legislating difficult, but Trump has a scorched earth personality and wants to get back at people. A viable 3rd party fucks up a ton of House districts big time. That party then has the leverage to be swayed to vote a certain way on policy and law.

I know the UK is like this, but it might be coming. Trump never has had alliance consistently with one party. Why not just create your own?

The "Florida Uses E-Verify" id great, but will Florida LOEs go after employers that hire illegals?

https://reclaimthenet.org/florida-gov-ron-desantis-joins-rumble-after-big-tech-censorship/

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has embraced the growing video sharing platform Rumble and created a channel where he’ll be posting video updates and live streams.

“Gov. Ron DeSantis is a longtime proponent of free speech and has been at the forefront of the effort to demonopolize Big Tech,” Rumble CEO Chris Pavlovski said in a statement. “He understands firsthand Americans’ distrust of monolithic tech companies and the danger they pose to free expression and free markets. In fact, YouTube recently removed from its platform a video of the governor and a handful of Ivy League-educated medical experts discussing the downsides of prolonged pandemic-related lockdowns. Rumble, on the other hand, invites robust and civic dialogue on our platform, including Gov. DeSantis’ insights and expertise.”

steverbeaver says

I'll vote for whoever will remove Israeli parasites most fervently.

It’s not the Israelis we have to worry about. It’s the non-religious American Jews with Leftist politics that cause troubles in the USA.

Shapiro is not a tactics guy, he's an entry into Conservatism guy. Sowell is much better.

Right now, the Tactics Guy is Bannon.

Trumps Two Biggest Mistakes:
1. Not giving Bannon the Chief of Staff post and letting Bannon keep away the RINOs.
2. Not pushing HCQ instead of a vaccine.

Trump underestimated the power of the China-Corporate-Academia-Media combo.

zzyzzx says

Was rioting legal before?

Floridians are all but immune from all civil lawsuits - including from the NGOs/city/county/state - if one has to ram your way out of a Communist Blockade by car during a riot. Lawsuit filers would have to show a court there was no riot or mob activity in the area within 24 hours FIRST in order to proceed.

It increases the penalties for crimes committed during a riot, including misdemeanors, and makes them ineligible for release until they appear before a Magistrate. Which really screws with the CCP/Globalist backed Bailout+Lawfare tactic.

It establishes a minimum sentence of 6 months in jail for any battery committed during a riot.

It criminalizes the destruction of historical buildings and monuments with up to 15 years in prison.

It prevents blue areas from releasing anybody charged with Breaching the Peace, Unlawful Assembly, Assault, or Theft until they come before a Magistrate.

It prohibits blue areas from refusing to protect persons and property - no withdrawing police or allowing "Autonomous Zones" - and makes the municipality subject to lawsuits if they instruct police not to respond to crime or withdraw entirely from the scene of the riot. In other words, home or business owners can sue if the Lefty Mayor tells the City Police to abandon their street to rioters.

I believe you can also shoot rioters engaging in a felony within a hundred feet or so of your business or domicile, also immune from civil lawsuits unless the plaintiff can prove there WASN'T a riot in the area. This gives the Governor more powers over Lefty Gainesville or Tampa or Broward, since if the Gov declares a riot, no court will accept any argument to the contrary from a plaintiff.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

Now you're immune from lawsuits if you have to ram your way out of a Communist Blockade by car in a declared riot zone.

I believe you can also shoot rioters engaging in a felony within a hundred feet or so of your business or domicile, also immune from lawsuits.

Dude, definitely considering moving to Florida.

Another one:

It creates a new crime—mob intimidation—which is defined as two or more people attempting to use or threatening force "to compel or induce, or attempt to compel or induce another person to do or refrain from doing any act or to assume, abandon, or maintain a particular viewpoint against his or her will," punishable as a first-degree misdemeanor (which entails up to a year in jail and up to a $1,000 fine).


So the crowd forcing people eating in restaurants to make the Black Power Salute or chant Black Lives Matter is now a misdemeanor.

So almost none of the people that died from COVID would have died from any of those other causes?

Ok if you’ll notice the total deaths each year are and have been trending upwards. This is entirely predictable as the population is aging and demographics are skewed towards older adults as the Boomers age. Old people gonna cack! It’s what they do. 2020 wasn’t much of an aberration when considered from that standpoint. Deaths were half a million over last year, a 17% increase.

Shaman says

Ok if you’ll notice the total deaths each year are and have been trending upwards. This is entirely predictable as the population is aging and demographics are skewed towards older adults as the Boomers age. Old people gonna cack! It’s what they do. 2020 wasn’t much of an aberration when considered from that standpoint. Deaths were half a million over last year, a 17% increase.

Correct, a lot of drug overdoses (unintentional injuries?) as well. 2020 was a drop in the bucket and hardly an aberration, just a continuing trend. Also the covid-19 deaths are deaths while testing positive, many if not most covid was not the main cause, so pretty much in line with an influenza season. See that little b there? "Deaths with confirmed (= positive bullshit PCR) AND PRESUMED (more BULLSHIT grouping flu, pnemonia and colds into the covid bucket). Conclusion = worthless rubbish.

Any statistics that contain the word "presumed" are rubbish. Math is precise, no room fro "presumptions" or shoddy PCR tests where the infection threshold is completely arbitrary.

Denninger covers this in more detail: https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242128

Interesting that last year they were showing nearly 0 flu deaths for almost the entire year, now all of a sudden, here's a big number that's in line with previous years.

Also read carefully footnote b, "Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19". With money being given out to everything covid, I'm sure nobody would classify a death as covid related unless they were absolutely sure.

mell says

Correct, a lot of drug overdoses (unintentional injuries?) as well. 2020 was a drop in the bucket and hardly an aberration, just a continuing trend. Also the covid-19 deaths are deaths while testing positive, many if not most covid was not the main cause, so pretty much in line with an influenza season. See that little b there? "Deaths with confirmed (= positive bullshit PCR) AND PRESUMED (more BULLSHIT grouping flu, pnemonia and colds into the covid bucket). Conclusion = worthless rubbish.

You're correct. Beyond that. Is it even safe to assume stats are correct from anywhere now? The stats we're given, assuming correct cannot possibly lead to the narrative that is being spun. Covid is real. The "story" isn't.

I think that's hard for some people to navigate. Look at stats and you can create a narrative if you're a thinking person. The problem is people follow the narrative from people that aren't experts in anything #media. Covid kills old and unhealthy people. Age you can't fix, health you generally can. Nah, shut down the country and try and force people to get a poke. That totally makes sense.

All COVID did was kill the already sick and dying a few months earlier than they normally would have from other diseases.

We are already seeing historically low deaths from all causes this year. Excess COVID deaths probably won't show up in 5 year averaging.

Was it really worth fucking our children over for 1.5 years to give the old and sick a few extra months of life?

socal2 says

Was it really worth fucking our children over for 1.5 years to give the old and sick a few extra months of life?

NO!

It really really wasn’t.
And the DIFFERENCE in educational and crime statistics BETWEEN STATES that develop in the next few years are going to be absolutely conclusive about this. States that had Democrat leadership are going to fare much much worse than states with conservatives in charge.
We have a control for this social experiment. It’s called Florida and Kansas vs the experiment in distance education they ran in California and New York. Nobody will take the bet on which kids did better.

All this stats ignore the impact of deaths from:
1) Disruption to medical services caused by "stupid and overly draconian" response.
2) In old age, You need social interactions to retain will to survive. Senior citizens were basically shut in their homes with depressive situation.
3) Lack of fresh air. My parents had hard time not able to go to park and interact with their friends... Made them sicker.
4) Depression.
5) Childbirth related difficulties due to COVID fearmongering.
6) Drugs/Excessive drinking to beat loneliness and "lack of positive news".

I can go on for days or making this pandemic really dangerous, Rather than pointing out that response was the most scary and fatal part.
Living beings are not meant to be in captivity.. What is median age and suicide rate of inmates?

As in life moderation always is best option. You see any happy long life living folks, You will always in them measured in response to everything equivalent of political centrists or independents.
Life is full of gray shades and we should appreciate it rather than coloring everything black and white.
I can give you tons of good points about "Hindoooo" someday, Although I don't feel like to give ammunition to some Hindooo folks here...But I do know those and appreciate it.

WookieMan says

Was it really worth fucking our children over for 1.5 years to give the old and sick a few extra months of life?

The kids were set back a LOT more than a year and a half. The "lost year(s" it is not over yet) will cascade down over the decades to come. I read somewhere that the kids have lost a lot of ground in math, not to mention the emotional trauma of telling kids their actions can "kill grandma".

On the plus side, nobody will be expected to go to work with a cold anymore.

ThreeBays says

The stats show what people died from, and they show there's no impact.

Was it worth it? How many lives do you think were saved by the lockdowns, masking, social distancing, restricting travel, closing schools, and suspending the first amendment?

ThreeBays says

Nobody suspended the first amendment.

Do you even know what the first amendment is?

Maybe you mean that because our first amendment is a right the government CAN"T restrict it?

Restricted it is.

ThreeBays says

I think we saved 1.5 Million lives.

You got the vax. What is your comorbidity?

ThreeBays says

Nobody suspended the first amendment.

Of course and not only the first A. And they "saved" close to zero lives as the curves were dropping sharply even before the vaccine rollout due to herd immunity. Norway calculated that the chance of death is higher from the vaccine than from covid and stopped vaccinating. It's actually possible that longer term lives are lost net net as we don't know about cumulative side-effects.

ThreeBays says

did it for the community

Plenty of vaxxed people still get covid. Now you may say less serious / asymptomatic and thus less "infectious", but that's what was argued in favor of kids and asymptomatic/ healthy adults, yet they were forced by threat of punishment and violence to wear masks, so ergo not much if anything at all was done for the community by vaccination. Can't have it both ways. Better keep wearing that mask til eternity.

ThreeBays says

My wife and I and everybody I know did it for the community and to get our schools open.

Schools should have never been closed. You're free to inject what you want, but it's not necessary.

ThreeBays says

If you're healthy, that's more reason to not be scared of it.

No one is scared. No one needs it. It doesn't stop the spread of covid. It minimizes symptoms. If anything it's likely to put those susceptible to a negative outcome more at risk as people loosening hygiene standards because they think they're "immune" from it. People still die from classic influenza AFTER being vaccinated. No different this time around.

Let the body do its work. Stay healthy. Everyone that still has 9 holes to play in life is going to get this virus. Vaccinated or not.

ThreeBays says

Onvacation says

You got the vax. What is your comorbidity?

Hehe, I'm not worried about my own safety from covid or from the vaccine.

Huh. I kind of figured it was obesity.

Why would a perfectly healthy person take the experimental biologic agent? Asymptomatic spreading has been thoroughly debunked.

ThreeBays says

mell says

Now you may say less serious / asymptomatic and thus less "infectious", but that's what was argued in favor of kids and asymptomatic/ healthy adults, yet they were forced by threat of punishment and violence to wear masks, so ergo not much if anything at all was done for the community by vaccination. Can't have it both ways. Better keep wearing that mask til eternity.

That was rather unintelligible, but anyway masks are hardly the only metric. Lower deaths and hospitalizations, opening of businesses and schools, the ability to gather and attend sports events, all of those are more important than the mask issue.

Masks will be the last measure to be dropped, it's obvious. 85% of independents supported mask mandates... I dont think the GOP is gaining any points by arguing on this issue.

I don't care what goppers say either about this, masks are harmful when worn for a prolonged time and don't work for airborne viruses, and I won't subject any of my family to this bullshit voodoo science. When we're out and about there are no masks, if a private business requires them for a short time I'm ok with it. Not that it will do much of anything, but at least it's a choice to frequent such businesses and events. Outdoors the masks stay off and anyone is welcome to take a roundabout hike of about 3-30 ft or more if they like.

ThreeBays says

increase people's confidence

I still have to see a clinical study showing that masks work. I've see at least one reputable study that masks do not work (Danish study I posted a while ago, and no one here has shown that study is flawed). About vaccinations, they are helpful, but no one should be forced to vaccinate - if I am afraid of covid, I will vaccinate; if someone thinks he is better off without a vaccine, I am fine with him not getting vaccinated and if he contracts covid, it is his own damned problem.

However, policies should not be made just because they make people feel better and more confident. They should be made based on science, otherwise we are back to Salem witch trial-type situation "my crops failed because Mary did not wear a mask, so lets burn her"

ThreeBays says

That was rather unintelligible

Brain fog is a common side effect of the jab.

ThreeBays says

They left out the question about all the major league sports leagues selling out America. Fuck those racially oppressed multimillionaires.

ThreeBays says

Onvacation says

Brain fog is a common side effect of the jab.

I don't think Mell had the jab.

That was funny so one thumbs up

ThreeBays says

Onvacation says

Brain fog is a common side effect of the jab.

I don't think Mell had the jab.

Because Mell is smart and informed.