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joshuatrio says

Welp. If this happens, there will be no need for the vax. But this does appear to cause a protein spike, which isn't that what the vac does?

"Pfizer CEO and chairman Albert Bourla says that the biopharmaceutical company behind the COVID-19 vaccine could publicly release an antiviral drug designed to treat the coronavirus by the end of 2021.

Bourla on Monday told CNBC's "Squawk Box" that the drug — called PF-07321332 — is an antiviral drug intended for oral ingestion in COVID-19-positive patients when the illness is first detected. The company is also testing an intravenous option.

The treatment is anticipated to be effective against varying strains of the deadly virus.

Bourla said that the company is zeroing in on the oral option as it "provides several advantages" and can be taken in the comfort of the patient's home. The option, he added, would be a "game-changer."

"The compound that we are talking about and you said very well the numbers, it is a p...

It's a protease inhibitor, it just prevents rapid multiplication, nothing to do with spike proteins and it would work against any variant. Good ole antiviral.

mell says

It's a protease inhibitor, it just prevents rapid multiplication, nothing to do with spike proteins and it would work against any variant. Good ole antiviral.

Soooo.... HCQ, just rebranded?

joshuatrio says

Soooo.... HCQ, just rebranded?

Difference is that this protease inhibitor will earn drug companies $TRILLIONS while HCQ is off-patent and thus not profitable.

joshuatrio says

mell says

It's a protease inhibitor, it just prevents rapid multiplication, nothing to do with spike proteins and it would work against any variant. Good ole antiviral.

Soooo.... HCQ, just rebranded?

Sort of, yes. It may be more effective though than HCQ. Or not. The trials will show. HCQ needed zinc in combination. This may do the trick on its own.

ThreeBays says

deaths are out of control

do you have percentage of deaths vs few other countries like us,uk, France, Russia.

Funny, Piedmont healthcare - large healthcare chain - emailed me and asked me to sign up for the shot. I wrote them back and asked if it prevented catching covid or transmitting it to others.

Crickets.

Federal government now giving it's workers 2 days off paid if you have adverse reactions to the vaxx, which implies that adverse reactions are fairly common.

zzyzzx says

Federal government now giving it's workers 2 days off paid if you have adverse reactions to the vaxx, which implies that adverse reactions are fairly common.

Why the fuck take it? It's a mundane illness in people I've know that have gotten it outside of one case of a fatty which resulted in...... a doctor visit. Outdoor masking was never a thing in IL and now they're acting like we should have been outdoor masking on the news. This shit is out of control.

WookieMan says

Why the fuck take it? It's a mundane illness in people I've know that have gotten it outside of one case of a fatty which resulted in...... a doctor visit. Outdoor masking was never a thing in IL and now they're acting like we should have been outdoor masking on the news. This shit is out of control.

If you are going to do it anyway, then it's essentially 4 paid days off from work if you are a government employee. Not sure if this is DOD only or all government.

joshuatrio says

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-04-30/British-regulator-reports-41-more-blood-clots-after-AstraZeneca-shots-ZScPccXkeA/index.html

British regulator reports 41 more blood clots after AstraZeneca shots

ThreeBays says

The official fatality rate is 1.5% of cases versus 1.8% in US

Fatality rate is way lower than that. Stop watching CNN.

The case fatality rate in the US is about 1.8% in the US. "Cases" are people who were sick enough to go see a doctor, a minority of infections.

The infection fatality rate in the US is about 0.3%, about six times less. Only about 1 in 6 people get sick enough that they see a doctor, and of that minority, only about 1.8% of those actually die.

And even those stats are irrelevant to most people, given the strongly exponential skewing of deaths towards the elderly and the obese.

It's pretty much a nothingburger if you take a step back from the hysteria. OK, it's about 3x worse than the flu, but were you likely to die of the flu this year? Nope.





It's a nothingburger in India too, but that doesn't sell papers or get people to give up all their rights and give the government unlimited power. They have to hype it or you wouldn't even know it's a thing at all.

anniecoyote says

I was in a hospital emergency room with my spouse for his issue (leg infection) and overheard the person in the next room through the curtain. She was there after her recent 2nd jab, maybe 50-60-ish person, couldn't see without being too obvious, a little overweight.

When fat people are considered normal, I wonder what a "little overweight" means.

ThreeBays says

zzyzzx says

Cherry picking and misrepresenting facts is fun. If you take this at face value, you are easily manipulated.

Solid line-by-line deboonking. We're proud of you.

ThreeBays says

Cherry picking and misrepresenting facts is fun. If you take this at face value, you are easily manipulated.

I know, right?

I heard that some people are getting the jab in spite of the fact that it is not very effective at best, and deadly at worst. And we have no idea of the long term effects as human trials are will be finished in 2023.

ThreeBays says

Hundreds of millions of individuals have had the vaccines without issues. Even so, we do not yet understand long term effects.

Like where's Tiffany. ThreeBays says

Everyone should make their own decision about getting vaccinated

Agreed.

Though I know if we don't stop the slippery slope slide we are on we won't be able to travel without the vaccine passport IF the world opens back up.

ThreeBays says

Truth -

Vaccines like Pfizer & Moderna have been shown highly effective against symptomatic disease with 95-100% protection in clinical trials, and 97% measured in Israel's population.

Studies show Pfizer vaccine is very effective at preventing infection altogether, with 1 dose shown to reduce spread in UK households 50%, and 2 doses shown to reduce asymptomatic infection by 94% in Israel.

US county policies are predicated on spread, hospitalization, and ICU usage. By significantly reducing spread and symptomatic infection, vaccines are enabling schools and businesses to open to higher capacities sooner.

Taking the vaccine enables ease of travel, for example CDC recommends that un-vaccinated individuals get tested and quarantine for 2 weeks when traveling, and vaccinated individuals need not take special precautions. Masking guidance is also eased in vaccinated individuals.


Current vaccines have been authorized under "Emergency Use Authoriz...

An experimental biological agent is completely unnecessary for a virus for which 81% of the population have some sort of (cross) immunity against, except for a small part of people at high risk and frontline healthcare workers who may not want to pass it onto their high risk patients.

zzyzzx says

Do as I do.

Ignore what is laughably called "mainstream media" in the United States.

Part of their strategy is to make outrageous claims to get people to endlessly argue about the falsity or correctness of the claims. Just realize it's bullshit, and don't argue with the morons that don't realize it at this point.

Onvacation says

Though I know if we don't stop the slippery slope slide we are on we won't be able to travel without the vaccine passport IF the world opens back up.

https://archive.is/zcsdl

https://humansarefree.com/2021/05/european-database-of-adverse-drug-reactions-for-covid-19-vaccines.html


CORONAVIRUSHEALTHCAREVACCINES8,430 DEAD & 354,177 Injuries: European Database Of Adverse Drug Reactions For COVID-19 ‘Vaccines’

ThreeBays says

less than 20% of the at-risk population getting infected before vaccination took over. Lockdowns + vaccination saved a majority of lives.

Around 20% you say? Interesting coincidence....

ThreeBays says

FuckCCP89 says

Around 20% you say? Interesting coincidence....

It's not. Enlighten us...

Here you go: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00808-x.pdf

ThreeBays says

Yes... except that some of the age groups show 47% antibody rates... so no.

People that get asymptomatic covid still develop antibodies.

ThreeBays says

Cherry picking and misrepresenting facts is fun.

ThreeBays says

Lockdowns + vaccination saved a majority of lives.

1) nope, still almost 600,000 died supposedly of Covid even though there were lockdowns. Lockdown states like New York fared far worse with Covid death rate than non lockdown states like Florida despite the sunshine state being jam packed with oldsters.
2)vaccines have killed a bunch of people. I thought “every life mattered?” Estimates for vax deaths run into the tens of thousands.
3)masks don’t work.

Not looking good for the vaxxed:

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242248

https://rumble.com/vg4inv-michael-yeadon-full-interview-planet-lockdown.html

ThreeBays says

Lockdowns + vaccination saved a majority of lives.

There's no model that exists that could ever prove this. If there is choice A - No lockdowns, or choice B - lockdowns, we took choice B. You or anyone has zero evidence that choice A wouldn't have been better and maybe we wouldn't have even needed a vaccine.

This idea that the path we chose was correct assumes a ton of things. I stopped listening to anything the CDC or Fauci said in early May 2020. Started traveling. Hung out with big groups of neighbors. Didn't wear a mask. Never quarantined after trips. I'm not dead, got sick once (tested negative from a BS test), didn't go to the doctor besides my foot and that was it.

You're buying the hype. I'm not trying to be a dick, more so pointing out how big of a con job Covid is/was. I understand if you're 60+ there might be some concern. Guess what... most every boomer I know that dies is from cancer or heart disease/attack. Covid is a joke. Always has been. It's a narrative, not a disease (yes it exists).

When someone admits to taking the "vaccine":

Stop saying you “did your research” before you got the Covid-19 vaccine … because YOU ARE the research!

Deadly, experimental vaccines are a form of medical violence.

Booger says

Stop saying you “did your research” before you got the Covid-19 vaccine … because YOU ARE the research!

Bingo. And if you're under 60 you'd be an extreme, extreme anomaly if you died from it. Less than 99%

WookieMan says

ThreeBays says

Lockdowns + vaccination saved a majority of lives.

There's no model that exists that could ever prove this. If there is choice A - No lockdowns, or choice B - lockdowns, we took choice B. You or anyone has zero evidence that choice A wouldn't have been better and maybe we wouldn't have even needed a vaccine.

This idea that the path we chose was correct assumes a ton of things. I stopped listening to anything the CDC or Fauci said in early May 2020. Started traveling. Hung out with big groups of neighbors. Didn't wear a mask. Never quarantined after trips. I'm not dead, got sick once (tested negative from a BS test), didn't go to the doctor besides my foot and that was it.

You're buying the hype. I'm not trying to be a dick, more so pointing out how big of a con job Covid is/was. I understand if you're 60+ there might be some concern. Guess what... most every bo...

81% have some sort of cross immunity, so you likely came in contact with it but didn't develop any noticeable illness. To force 81% into draconian lockdowns destroying the livelihoods of many and forcing kids to stay at home, cancel school and wear masks to prevent potential (small chance, not given!) infection and illness in 20% with a chance of death around 0.01%-0.1% is not only tyrannical, diabolical and heartless, it's mathematically stupid. That is especially true when you consider the fact that there's a simple personal choice available for everyone who doesn't want to take a risk: stay at home as long as you want and fear.

mell says

To force 81% into draconian lockdowns destroying the livelihoods of many and forcing kids to stay at home, cancel school and wear masks to prevent infection and illness in 20% with a chance of death around 0.01%-0.1% is not only diabolical and heartless, it's mathematically stupid.

Bbbbut you just want to kill grandma! Every life matters!!
(Except lives ended due to vaccination. That’s necessary and right)

WookieMan says

maybe we wouldn't have even needed a vaccine.

We DON'T need a vaccine and we DON'T have a vaccine. The experimental biologic agent that the government is pushing will not end well, I fear.