patrick.net

HCQ seems to have a coincidental property facilitating zinc transport across the cell membrane. Zinc then interferes with viral replication - but only if it can get inside the cells.

I think HCQ works against malaria in a totally different way. Win-win.

WineHorror1 says

It's ised in US for de-licing kids. Also for treating Rosacea.

So, what is the connection on why it is effective against Covid? Covid is not a parasite.

No idea, but things like that happen to known drugs. Viagra, for example, was not developed for putting led into limp pencils - that was a side effect.

ERIC CLAPTON: "I SHOULD NEVER HAVE GONE NEAR THE NEEDLE, BUT THE PROPAGANDA SAID IT WAS SAFE"
https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontline-news/eric-clapton-after-covid-vaccination-i-should-never-have-gone-near-the-needle

In February this year, before I learned about the nature of the vaccines, (and being 76 with emphysema) I was in the avant garde. I took the first jab of AZ and straight away had severe reactions which lasted ten days, I recovered eventually and was told it would be twelve weeks before the second one...
About six weeks later I was offered and took the second AZ shot, but with a little more knowledge of the dangers. Needless to say the reactions were disastrous, my hands and feet were either frozen, numb or burning, and pretty much useless for two weeks, I feared I would never play again, (I suffer with peripheral neuropathy and should never have gone near the needle.) But the propaganda said the vaccine was safe for everyone....

FULLY VACCINATED Bill Maher has just tested POSITIVE for Covid.

zzyzzx says

FULLY VACCINATED Bill Maher has just tested POSITIVE for Covid.

Yup, heard that this morning. There's also no way we could know if he would have been asymptomatic without the vaccine. But I bet he now champions the vaccine for saving him.

Ultimately it's a virus. Being vaccinated won't stop the spread of it. And the CDC is basically now admitting that masks don't work. Otherwise vaccinated people should still be wearing masks. The propaganda is as clear as can be, but only a select few people seek out information. And then we're called tin foil hat or conspiracy theory guys.

And when I say guys, it's mostly guys. I've sold my wife on the information I've come across, but women are particularly fine falling in line with the narrative/propaganda. It's an easy sell with covid. Highly transmissible and will kill you. lol. Whatever.

mell says

WineHorror1 says

FuckCCP89 says

mell says

Correct, it's not an animal drug only, it has been given as parasite prevention and anti-microbial to humans all over Africa and Asia for decades.

It's ised in US for de-licing kids. Also for treating Rosacea.

So, what is the connection on why it is effective against Covid? Covid is not a parasite.

They inhibit maturation of proteins which are vital to parasites, as to viruses for replication. This is not new, e.g.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/05/study-anti-parasitic-drug-may-help-flu-patients

Thanks. I've not gone far beyond what makes logical sense to me from the standpoint of herd psychological manipulation. I've based all my decisions concerning Covid and how to deal with it, so far, on what seem to be lies and cover up by the MSM and the Biden administration. Deep medical research is beyond my grasp.

WookieMan says

zzyzzx says

FULLY VACCINATED Bill Maher has just tested POSITIVE for Covid.

Yup, heard that this morning. There's also no way we could know if he would have been asymptomatic without the vaccine. But I bet he now champions the vaccine for saving him.

Ultimately it's a virus. Being vaccinated won't stop the spread of it. And the CDC is basically now admitting that masks don't work. Otherwise vaccinated people should still be wearing masks. The propaganda is as clear as can be, but only a select few people seek out information. And then we're called tin foil hat or conspiracy theory guys.

And when I say guys, it's mostly guys. I've sold my wife on the information I've come across, but women are particularly fine falling in line with the narrative/propaganda. It's an easy sell with covid. Highly transmissible and will kill you. lol. Whatever.

Remember it's a PCR test. They detect viral fragments that could have been from exposure a while ago, now they are even claiming that sars cov 2 leaves part of its dna in cells even after it is inactive/defeated so that they "may" produce these fragments, but at no health risk whatsoever, except for that you may randomly test positive! The scam continues at the expense of people's freedoms and civil liberties. They probably just want to pause Maher for a while since he has veered off too much from the leftoid globalist script again lately. what better way than regularly scheduled mandatory sars cov 2 PCR tests?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/gleyber-torres-becomes-the-eighth-vaccinated-yankee-to-test-positive-for-the-coronavirus/ar-BB1gI80F

8th vaccinated Yankee to test positive. The vaccines don't prevent infection or transmission.

Six Flags is offering 50,000 free tickets to newly vaccinated residents.

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They are hawking vaccines with every shabby Realtor stunt known to man? Yeah, that produces confidence.

https://news.yahoo.com/mixing-covid-19-vaccines-happening-072502474.html

Mixing COVID-19 vaccines - which is happening in some countries - linked to worse and more frequent side effects, study says

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/very-little-excuse-to-continue-to-use-astrazeneca-in-canada-infectious-diseases-specialist

The peculiar blood clotting disorder linked with Oxford-AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine, a vaccine now temporarily paused in Ontario and Alberta, doesn’t cause the regular kind of blood clots. These clots require more extensive care, they can’t be predicted and, most importantly, are “really kinda bad,” says a Toronto infectious diseases specialist. The case fatality rate ranges between 20 and 40 per cent.

WookieMan says

but only a select few people seek out information. And then we're called tin foil hat or conspiracy theory guys.

Welcome to the world I've been living in, for 20 miserable years.

zzyzzx says

Six Flags is offering 50,000 free tickets to newly vaccinated residents.

original link

Don’t post this guy again. I see enough of this cunt. He shuts the fucking economy down here and now businesses basically are paying people to come back. Then he acts like it’s some accomplishment. The fucking fatty fuck, you are the problem.

WookieMan says

zzyzzx says

Six Flags is offering 50,000 free tickets to newly vaccinated residents.

original link

Don’t post this guy again. I see enough of this cunt. He shuts the fucking economy down here and now businesses basically are paying people to come back. Then he acts like it’s some accomplishment. The fucking fatty fuck, you are the problem.

First - who is this fat fuck? I have no idea who he is.

Second I do not think zzyzzx is making any statement about what sort of person the fat fuck is - I think you are mistaken in thinking his post was an endorsement of what the fat fuck is doing or saying. I assume the fat fuck is some political asshole, well, anybody in politics is an asshole, with VERY RARE exceptions. I literally think that maybe, perhaps, 5% of congress isn't just absolutely a corrupt sellout.

So, I think you have inadvertently engaged in an argument, where no disagreement nor endorsement of the fat fuck was intended.

https://www.naturalblaze.com/2021/05/the-u-s-has-been-through-a-vaccine-rollout-like-this-before-heres-what-went-wrong.html

Booger says

You cannot sue vaccine manufacturers - they have immunity granted to them by the government. That's how much faith they have in the safety and efficacy of their product.

richwicks says

Booger says

You cannot sue vaccine manufacturers - they have immunity granted to them by the government. That's how much faith they have in the safety and efficacy of their product.

Booger knows that. The meme he posted says that in 1976 a person COULD sue but that has changed. That is why THIS vax is NOT being pulled even after 3,500 are dead.

ThreeBays says

It's a public policy to protect pharma to encourage them to develop all vaccines.

It's pharmaceutical lobbyist efforts and campaign contributions to corrupt politicians that allow experimental biologic agents to be mass distributed without testing and with no accountability.

FIFY

ThreeBays says

The feds validate the vaccine, and the feds warrant them.

Yeah right.

ThreeBays says

The feds validate the vaccine, and the feds warrant them.

... and if you have cancer from it 20 years down the road they will pay you ONE BILLION DOLLARS!!!!

Onvacation says

It's pharmaceutical lobbyist efforts and campaign contributions to corrupt politicians that allow experimental biologic agents to be mass distributed without testing and with no accountability.

Interesting that lefties conveniently forget that rich people bribing con-gress is bad in this case:

https://www.investopedia.com/investing/which-industry-spends-most-lobbying-antm-so/

Over the past 22 years, the pharmaceutical and health products industry has spent the most money of all industries in lobbying spending.

Gee, does this has anything to do with speedy approvals and vaccine mandates or not?

Pharmaceuticals/Health Products: $4,450,373,773
Spending $4.45 billion over the past 22 years, the pharmaceutical and health products industry has far outpaced all other industries in lobbying spending. It's important to note that this industry includes not only drug manufacturers, but also the sellers of medical products and nutritional and dietary supplements. From Jan. 2020 through March 2020, spending was topped by the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America and Pfizer Inc.

Overall, the industry is primarily concerned with "resisting government-run health care, ensuring a quicker approval process for drugs and products entering the market, and strengthening intellectual property protections.” In recent years, lobbying has focused more specifically “on the patent system, research funding, and Medicare.” As is to be expected, lobbying efforts reached a fever pitch in 2009, around the drafting of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), and reported a high in 2017 with legislative enactments again focusing on changes to health care.

1,227 (62.9%)
The number of pharmaceutical/health product lobbyists in the United States and the percentage that are former government employees as of March 2020.

Rb6d says

Interesting that lefties conveniently forget that rich people bribing con-gress is bad in this case:

The left will overlook everything at this point. They are all in and are on cusp of their commie utopia and will do whatever it takes to make it happen.

ThreeBays says

The feds validate the vaccine

What are you talking about?

The mRNA vaccines were not approved by the FDA. The food and DRUG administration.

The makers were granted "emergency use" for these dangerous vaccines only because the copious research around HCQ and Ivermectin was deliberately and knowingly dismissed by the whores at the CDC and NIH.

https://c19hcq.com/

Patrick says

What are you talking about?

The mRNA vaccines were not approved by the FDA. The food and DRUG administration.

The makers were granted "emergency use" for these dangerous vaccines only because the copious research around HCQ and Ivermectin was deliberately and knowingly dismissed by the whores at the CDC and NIH.

FACTS DON'T MATTER. MY FEELINGS DO.

So they say that mRNA vaccine makes your cells produce virus protein to make your immune system react to it. Anybody found an answer to the question how long this is supposed to happen and when does it stop? The Wiki article on the subject only contains cutesy phrase about this information being unknown at the time because of "trade secrets".

Eric Holder says

Anybody found an answer to the question how long this is supposed to happen and when does it stop? The Wiki article on the subject only contains cutesy phrase about this information being unknown at the time because of "trade secrets".

@Just_Passing_Through

@Rb6d I honestly have no idea. Wild guess that the max would be less than a week - days. If nothing endogenous is creating more mRNAs I would expect them to get chewed up by enzymes then recycled or disposed of.

Probably last about as long as these bad reactions people are having. My co-workers all seem to get 'sick' for a few days.

You hear claims that the mRNA transcribing into DNA and creating an avalanche effect. Also, that the spike protein itself is a pathogen even without the rest of the virus. If spike proteins wind up stuck onto healthy cells all over the body, rather than being restricted to a vaccination site, then the immune system becomes a self destruct suicide engine.

ThreeBays says

richwicks says

You cannot sue vaccine manufacturers - they have immunity granted to them by the government. That's how much faith they have in the safety and efficacy of their product.

It's a public policy to protect pharma to encourage them to develop all vaccines. The feds validate the vaccine, and the feds warrant them.

The feds don't give a shit about money or accountability, and they control the courts and they don't care about the larger population.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. What I just said, is obvious to me. Isn't it obvious to you?

A WEEKLY CONVERSATION: ON THE LINE WITH DOCTORS

Straight from the Whitehouse, so you know it must be true.

Eric Holder says

Anybody found an answer to the question how long this is supposed to happen and when does it stop?

I believe part of the issue with mRNA vaccines, in general, is that if it's not being produced by one's cell's own DNA, and thus, is an alien product by default.

Normally, your cell's own restriction enzymes nails these things easily, because otherwise, you'd be contaminated by anything you eat, whether it's vegan (hummus or spinach), or animal (chicken or beef).

So these biopharma firms needed some sort of endosomal transport mechanism, to shield the foreign mRNA, from the cell's automated defenses. Given the shielding in place, it's probably very hard to quantify how long a single vaccine shot can last in the body and where it can reach, including by-passing the blood-brain barrier.