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Ceffer says

Auditorium is empty, breaking down the tables. What was that, three weeks?

They are taking a week off so the venue can be used for graduations. Then back at it, assuming nothing happens during the break.

500,000 ballots down, 1.6 million ballots to go?

Donald says

Since when is it acceptable for a private, for profit company to count election ballots? Does that not concern anyone? What if the Democrats hired a for profit company to re-count votes in an election a Republican won?

Dominion Voting Systems was a Government Agency? Who knew.

Strange, they are asserting their code is a Secret that can't be revealed to public auditors.

Donald says

Since when is it acceptable for a private, for profit company to count election ballots? Does that not concern anyone? What if the Democrats hired a for profit company to re-count votes in an election a Republican won?

Voters can not learn if their votes were counted properly? If that is true, then we are no better than Putin's Russia

Donald says

Since when is it acceptable for a private, for profit company to count election ballots? Does that not concern anyone? What if the Democrats hired a for profit company to re-count votes in an election a Republican won?

Since some people cheated.

We are very concerned that some people cheated and handed the presidency to Biden.

If someone, like say "The Russians" had colluded to put Trump in office. I would want a full transparent investigation.

Wouldn't you?

Onvacation says

If someone, like say "The Russians" had colluded to put Trump in office. I would want a full transparent investigation.

Wouldn't you?

Of course no, since that is completely different. See, if there are rumors about potential cheating by the Orange Man (later proven to be fabricated by three-letter agencies and press), it should be investigated fully for many years. However, if one finds a few hundred thousand votes here and there which went to the correct candidate, then persons who demand investigation are obviously racist as fuck and should be guillotined on sight.

Biden is as legitimate as Bashar the Lion, beloved of Syria.



(Just because I don't believe Neolib-con propaganda, doesn't mean I believe Russo-Syrian Propaganda either)

Donald says

Since when is it acceptable for a private, for profit company to count election ballots? Does that not concern anyone? What if the Democrats hired a for profit company to re-count votes in an election a Republican won?

When is it acceptable for a private, for-profit company (Dominion) to be in charge of tabulating all local, state and federal ballots, without accountability, process transparency or software review?

Bingo.

Donald says

The job of overseeing and regulating elections should be left to state board of elections, not some company called Cyber Ninjas that I never heard of until a week ago.

It's constitutionally the authority of the State Legislature. Not any executive official or organ.

I think COUNTING votes should be the job of the State, not a private company called Dominion.

Remember Diebold? hahahahaha.

Donald says

The job of overseeing and regulating elections should be left to state board of elections, not some company called Cyber Ninjas that I never heard of until a week ago.

true - all voting should be done by paper ballots and keep them for a year or two, and they can be audited by anyone who is willing to pay for audit

I love the Israeli system:

- there is a board with members of each party waiting in a room of a local school
- one person at a time goes in to vote with a paper ballot
- his identity is checked by everyone
- he casts his ballot and leaves
- after everyone has voted in that shift, each member of each party counts all the votes on the spot
- the numbers must agree
- those interim results are reported immediately to the public

That's about how I remember reading it. Paper ballots, ID's, people from multiple parties checking everything, instant reporting.

Donald says

The job of overseeing and regulating elections should be left to state board of elections, not some company called Cyber Ninjas that I never heard of until a week ago.

You fucking boomers can barely operate your cell phones. Of course we need to bring in experts.

Patrick says

That's about how I remember reading it. Paper ballots, ID's, people from multiple parties checking everything, instant reporting.

Let's add the "dip your finger in ink" like they did in Iraq so we can't have more votes than voters.

just_passing_through says

You fucking boomers can barely operate your cell phones. Of course we need to bring in experts.

You didn't build that.

I like it. OK, ink as well.

https://twitter.com/mdeperno/status/1393403111469899777#m

May 15
1. In July 2020, counties across the state of Michigan received a FOIA from Michigan Election Reform Alliance asking for “scanned digital ballot images.”

This was similar to a FOIA sent in 2016.
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2. Many county clerks engaged in a multi-layered discussion of how to respond, which included copying the Michigan Bureau of Elections on the discussion.
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3. The counties appear to have understood that disclosure was required under Opinion No. 7247

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4. Many counties also acknowledged that the best way to avoid disclosure of ballot images was to turn off ballot imaging at the tabulator.
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5. From Justin Roebuck, Ottawa County Clerk . . . lol (so funny)

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6. From Ann Marie Main, Presque Isle County Clerk (“NO RECORDS”)

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7. From Caroline Wilson, Shiawassee County (same)

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8. Machines take an image of the ballot that is submitted and then tabulate the votes based on the ballot image. 52 USC 20701 requires that all election records must be maintained for 22 months.

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10. I ask you, was a crime committed and does RICO apply?

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/circling-the-wagons/

Perhaps Arizona can adopt California’s new minority-friendly math curriculum before the election audit ordered by the Arizona State Senate is completed in a month or two. Under that new system of math, or maff, two plus two doesn’t equal four, it equals more, five plus five equals a lot more, and 1,672,143 minus X equals don’t-bother-me-with-your-racist-numbers.

It’ll take some kind of math or maff to unravel the mystery of Arizona’s 2020 election results, and the people who run Maricopa County — that is, Phoenix and its suburban asteroid belt, or about 60 percent of the AZ population — don’t want that mystery solved. So, they are not responding to a court-ordered subpoena to produce the evidence, namely, the vote tabulation files from their Dominion Systems voting machines, the county’s server routers, or the chain-of-custody records of the precinct batches of paper ballots. The county’s servers indicate that the folder containing the database of election results was deleted sometime after the election, so the county has no record of the vote. Hmmmm….

By a previous subpoena, the state Senate took possession of 2.1 million ballots and nearly 400 Dominion election machines and turned them over to the company, Cyber Ninjas, hired to do the audit. Problem was, the county didn’t hand over the passwords to the Dominion machines. Officials claim they never had the passwords, which suggests that the County Board of Elections never had control over their own elections, for which they are legally responsible. A curious situation, because the county says it conducted a previous examination of its voting machines weeks after the election. How’d they do that without the Dominion passwords?

Maybe the data was not stored on the Dominion machines but booted onto external hard drives, which would be against the rules. Or maybe the Dominion machines were connected to the Internet and information was booted into the Dominion machines from somewhere else on Planet Earth. That would be very very against the rules. If that was so, the log files on the machines would show time-stamps and where the outside information originated. Would that be enough for the State Senate to de-certify the Arizona election results? Or prompt audits in other states where the outcome is still contested: Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin?

An awful lot of interested parties don’t want a complete examination of the 2020 Arizona vote to go forward, including now the US Department of Justice, which sent a letter from its Civil Rights Division to state Senate President Karen Fann threatening legal action against canvassers directed to ascertain whether voters actually lived at the addresses recorded on their mail-in ballots. The DOJ asserts that this would be threatening and coercive to voters — if they could even be found at these addresses. That was a week ago. So far, the auditors have not sent canvassers out and the DOJ hasn’t moved.

However, the DOJ is beefing up its home office defenses by appointing one Susan Hennessey to its National Security Division and one Lisa Monaco as Deputy Attorney General, assigned to run the little twerp in the corner office, Merrick Garland. Do they sense something coming at them… some possibly lethal threat that must be met with a rabid counterattack? Hennessey was general counsel of the Lawfare Institute, the gang of attorneys who coordinated with the DOJ, FBI, and The New York Times in the RussiaGate campaign, the subsequent Mueller investigation, and the shenanigans surrounding “whistleblower” Eric Ciaramella and IC Inspector General Michael Atkinson in the first Trump impeachment. Lisa Monaco was special counsel to Robert Mueller when he was FBI Director and previously head of the DOJ national Security Division. Earlier, she was on the DOJ task force that was cited for prosecutorial misconduct in the Enron case. She’s the kind of lawyer Shakespeare was talking about in Henry VI, Part 2, Act IV.

Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance Jr is reportedly ramping up an indictment of Donald Trump on financial fraud charges. He’s been dicking around on this for years. Do you wonder why he picked this moment to move? Pinning a felony conviction charge on the former president would be just the ticket for negating any undesirable outcome of the Maricopa County election audit, and any other formal inquiries in other states over the 2020 election. They don’t call it lawfare for nothing. The problem with that is ultimately you may be using the law to disable and defeat itself. You could say that these smoothies have just about succeeded in doing that. We are a country so far down the path to self-destruction, that the truth has been declared an enemy of the people.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/desk

Donald J. Trump
2:12pm May 15, 2021

The entire Database of Maricopa County in Arizona has been DELETED! This is illegal and the Arizona State Senate, who is leading the Forensic Audit, is up in arms. Additionally, seals were broken on the boxes that hold the votes, ballots are missing, and worse. Mark Brnovich, the Attorney General of Arizona, will now be forced to look into this unbelievable Election crime. Many Radical Left Democrats and weak Republicans are very worried about the fact that this has been exposed. The DELETION of an entire Database and critical Election files of Maricopa County is unprecedented. Many other States to follow. The Mainstream Media and Radical Left Democrats want to stay as far away as possible from the Presidential Election Fraud, which should be one of the biggest stories of our time. Fox News is afraid to cover it—there is rarely a mention. Likewise, Newsmax has been virtually silent on this subject because they are intimidated by threats of lawsuits. One America News (OAN), one of the fastest growing networks on television, and the “hottest”, is doing a magnificent job of exposing the massive fraud that took place. The story is only getting bigger and at some point it will be impossible for the weak and/or corrupt media not to cover. Thank you to OAN and other brave American Patriots. It is all happening quickly!

Donald J. Trump
12:35pm May 15, 2021

Wall Street Journal has reported (they finally got something right), that 2020 was the “Worst Presidential Poll Miss in 40 Years.” The public opinion surveys ahead of the 2020 Presidential Election were the most inaccurate ever, according to a major polling panel. This was done purposely. The polls were a joke. I won States in a landslide that I was predicted to lose days before the election. Other states had me purposely so far down that it would force people, even fans, to say “Let's stay home Darling. We love our President, but he can’t win.” And then I would win those states or at least come very close. In one state that I actually won, but the results were rigged, ABC and the Washington Post had me down by 17 points. Even the rigged final result was extremely close. It’s called SUPPRESSION POLLING and it should be illegal. These are crooked, disgusting, and very dishonest media outlets and they know exactly what they are doing. The 2020 Presidential Election was, by far, the greatest Election Fraud in the history of our Country. The good news is, the American people get it and the truth is rapidly coming out! Had Mike Pence had the courage to send the Electoral College vote back to states for recertification, and had Mitch McConnell fought for us instead of being the weak and pathetic leader he is, we would right now have a Republican President who would be VETOING the horrific Socialistic Bills that are rapidly going through Congress, including Open Borders, High Taxes, Massive Regulations, and so much else!

Donald J. Trump
12:07pm May 15, 2021

As our Country is being destroyed, both inside and out, the Presidential Election of 2020 will go down as THE CRIME OF THE CENTURY!

https://reclaimthenet.org/twitter-censorship-election-fraud-allegations-state-action-and-1a-violation/

The Communications Decency Act Section 230 is coming under renewed legal scrutiny as a hearing is about to be held in a federal lawsuit brought by Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai after he was censored on Twitter.

The case stems from a decision by Twitter to delete messages Ayyadurai said represented evidence of vote rigging, contained in four emails the screenshots of which he shared, saying that they proved that the Government of Massachusetts had violated Federal Law by deleting ballot images. Ayyadurai’s account was first banned temporarily, and then permanently.

He claims that all these actions by Twitter came strongly encouraged by the Massachusetts Government, specially, employees of the Massachusetts Secretary of State.

Onvacation says

Patrick says

That's about how I remember reading it. Paper ballots, ID's, people from multiple parties checking everything, instant reporting.

Let's add the "dip your finger in ink" like they did in Iraq so we can't have more votes than voters.

Wearing "black finger" is clearly just an attempt to cause psychological trauma to PoC, interfering with their votes on election day via the pain of reminding them who really holds the power in this systemically raycist system!!!

Hircus says

Wearing "black finger"

Purple.

Purple ink is not racist.

Purple ink is gay.

Pink?

No, that would not show up on me.

Are there any acceptable colors?

How about a little stripe of red, white, and blue?

That reminds me of a story I heard of why the Irish flag is green, white, and orange. Green is for the native Irish, orange is for the protestants, and white for peace between them.

Maybe we should think of the American flag the same way, with red and blue and white between them for peace.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/update-voting-machines-fayette-county-pa-not-counting-gop-votes-fayette-county-uses-dominion-voting-machines/

Patrick says

How about a little stripe of red, white, and blue?

I read this as Red Stripe... the beer. I need to get me some. Been a while. One of my favorite Caribbean beers.

WookieMan says

Patrick says

How about a little stripe of red, white, and blue?

I read this as Red Stripe... the beer. I need to get me some. Been a while. One of my favorite Caribbean beers.

It's a pretty good beer. Anything but IPA for me (with a few exceptions).

Donald says

Since when is it acceptable for a private, for profit company to count election ballots?

AND they were connected to the internet against all rules! It's fucking criminal!

Dominion's records should all be seized and all complicit employees should be arrested for what they have done!

They should be, but it seems to me that a lot of the legal establishment approves of the fraud, so they will not investigate or prosecute.

mell says

It's a pretty good beer. Anything but IPA for me (with a few exceptions).

Thread derailment. I still have never understood the popularity of IPA's. I can drink them, maybe 2 a night if I had to. I don't know, they're just awful. It seems like a snobby beer/wine type thing. Or popularity.

I'm also a low flavor profile guy with beer. I don't want anything heavy. I don't know what it is, but if I have a couple of different beers I don't normally have I'm wiped the next day.

Did a cruise for our honeymoon. Amstel Bright (not a typo) was a really good beer we had down in the Caribbean. I think it was Aruba. Dutch, so that makes sense.

Beer has gotten overly complex though. Twice a week a buddy and I would go out and get a six pack of different beers in college. I think we got up to 600 on the beer wall. We'd cut out the side of the 6 pack and stick it to his wall. I don't know, new beers kind of sucks. Way too heavy handed with flavor. I don't know the lingo, so probably "hoppy" or something. Whatever, got my beer of choice now after trying hundreds.

The alphabet of agencies are all in with the owners against we the people.

I reckon about 70+ million voters voted for Trump or against Biden. Not near as many voted against Trump and fewer still voted for Biden.

Manufactured ballots made the difference.

WookieMan says

mell says

It's a pretty good beer. Anything but IPA for me (with a few exceptions).

Thread derailment. I still have never understood the popularity of IPA's. I can drink them, maybe 2 a night if I had to. I don't know, they're just awful. It seems like a snobby beer/wine type thing. Or popularity.

I'm also a low flavor profile guy with beer. I don't want anything heavy. I don't know what it is, but if I have a couple of different beers I don't normally have I'm wiped the next day.

Did a cruise for our honeymoon. Amstel Bright (not a typo) was a really good beer we had down in the Caribbean. I think it was Aruba. Dutch, so that makes sense.

Beer has gotten overly complex though. Twice a week a buddy and I would go out and get a six pack of different beers in college. I think we got up to 600 on the beer wall. We'd cut out the side of the 6 pack and stick it to his ...

Yeah so IPAs are pretty strong and mess you up, add in all the different flavors and you can get a good headache. Clean pilsner from Europe, Bitburger, jever, hacker pschorr or a good clean kolsch. Or a good Bavarian hefeweizen. All German. Or a Peroni or Moretti from Italy. Bottom line they have to be clean. Hoegarden or Allagash are good as well. Amstel is good, even Heineken is decent. Lagunitas little sumpting is a light IPA I can drink, one of very few.

Onvacation says

Manufactured ballots made the difference.

Outside of military overseas, I don't even think there should be absentee voting. Just make the entire month of October available to vote and you have to appear in person with an ID. There's no excuse anyone cannot do that. If you cannot make that happen, you shouldn't be voting. Getting an ID is not complicated. If you cannot do that, oh well, can't vote.

Before the election, Trump said there would be voter fraud if he doesn’t win.

WookieMan says

Outside of military overseas, I don't even think there should be absentee voting. Just make the entire month of October available to vote and you have to appear in person with an ID. There's no excuse anyone cannot do that. If you cannot make that happen, you shouldn't be voting. Getting an ID is not complicated. If you cannot do that, oh well, can't vote.

Lefties like to tell us about Europe. I probably mentioned this, but I know a French person living abroad. Back during the last Election, they had to go to the consulate in person and show passport, Gov Issued ID, and sign a long legal document. Then, they most vote IN PERSON at the consulate/embassy right then and there, and hand it to the staff. Had to make an appointment weeks in advance so the Consulate could check their voting status in their "Department" and get a ballot sent from that Department to the Consulate. There are no Mail Ballots even for expats.