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ThreeBays says

Let's make sure we're clear here -- NY, the state where the virus broke out worst before any measures could be taken, where people are living in the most dense conditions, with mass public transit, has recorded fewer infections per-capita than some of the least dense rural states, which had close to no cases by the time we were fully aware of the virus.

Let's make sure we're clear here -- this is the kind of statistical bullshit when the covid narrative falls apart and the left is trying to lick their wounds.

No sympathy on this attempt.

ThreeBays says

Let's make sure we're clear here -- NY, the state where the virus broke out worst before any measures could be taken, where people are living in the most dense conditions, with mass public transit...

Let's be clear: when Orange Man suggested shutting down mass transit in NYC DeBlasio and Cuomo went ballistic screaming he has no authority to do it (which is true) and outright refusing to even entertain the notion. So go easy on "before any measures could be taken" BS, mkay?

ThreeBays says

joshuatrio says

Let's make sure we're clear here -- this is the kind of statistical bullshit when the covid narrative falls apart and the left is trying to lick their wounds.

No sympathy on this attempt.

I'm waiting for you to explain how South Dakota having more cases per capita than New York is statistical bullshit. It seems you don't like the facts and are quickly trying to bury it... lame.

What in the flying fuck do cases have to do with anything? We want people to get it. We want immunity. It's not a bad thing. Cases to death is the metric if you want to put us in our place. NY has been a disgrace. That's indisputable. Use data that matters.

ThreeBays says

Let's make sure we're clear here -- NY, the state where the virus broke out worst before any measures could be taken, where people are living in the most dense conditions, with mass public transit, has recorded fewer infections per-capita than some of the least dense rural states, which had close to no cases by the time we were fully aware of the virus.

When they did the antibody study a year ago, they showed that 20% of NYC was likely infected by May of last year. Can't record cases when you didn't even have the testing to go around. Or do you actually believe your own bs and think that NYC somehow had less cases but more deaths than the rest of the world.

ThreeBays says

joshuatrio says

Let's make sure we're clear here -- this is the kind of statistical bullshit when the covid narrative falls apart and the left is trying to lick their wounds.

No sympathy on this attempt.

I'm waiting for you to explain how North Dakota, South Dakota, Iowa, Tennessee, Nebraska, Arkansas, etc. having more cases per capita than even New York, is statistical bullshit. It seems you don't like the facts and are quickly trying to bury it... lame.

Change your metric to deaths. Not cases. Then get back to me.

After that, re-read what I just wrote: this is the kind of statistical bullshit when the covid narrative falls apart and the left is trying to lick their wounds.

Thanks for the laughs.

Lockdowns were an unmitigated disaster, preventing few deaths and only delaying cases until later. They caused widespread misery, both human and economic, contributed to many horribles, and were awesomely unhealthy for the population.

Now you have some cherry-picked charts that show a marginal benefit to lockdown states over states where freedom was allowed. Big deal! I’d rather more died than we lose all freedoms. This lockdown dogma was just sparing a few old and rich over the young and poor.
The negative ramifications of lockdowns and year-long school closures will be felt for many years as crime spikes to record levels and poverty and inequity increased to epidemics of their own.

The Idiots on the Left are buckteef Fucking retards. They keep lying and spreading misinformation to suppress the will of the public at large that unanimously Mandated America return back to our freedoms and glory.
They've got the Covid Chinese Manipulated virus paid for by Fauci, Obama and Bill Gates through gain of function research. Then at the same time, they attempted an Election Steal. They think they've gotten away with it. The problem is, there's just way too much for them to control the narrative on, not without demanding supreme dictatorship rule over Americans, and our media. But they are trying like hell.

It's all falling down on their shit eating faces, as fast as they can rig it, it's falling on their heads.

They wont survive the year, it will all come out, and the word "Democrat" will be a poisonous word, they will be the biggest pariah.

First off for all the false paradigm'ers, specifically the R side, if you guys haven't already made a chart like this to show how L's are wrong, I'm sure you will, so lets cut the hypocrisy.

Now let me mention a few points nowhere covered in this data set. Locking down a state, and telling people what to wear on their personal bodies when they their house is totalitarianism. Even in the best case where you argue the measures were scientifically relevant, it's still an ends justify the means outlook that trashes freedom and responsibility. If you save a world by enslaving people, was it really justified? So fuck the voting percentages, and face reality.

I live in California, and have family I have visited in Florida and Colorado, and family I have not visited in Iowa. I have neither seen, nor heard of any difference as to how people are doing across any of these states, despite California and Iowa being at extreme ends of your chart. The only general impression I have is that things are better almost everywhere else, and worse here in your posterboy golden state. This has nothing to do with sickness, and everything to do with totalitarianism. Most of the people in my engineering org have gotten their GMO shot. All of them were worried about how their bodies would react, almost like they were in the death lottery. None of them seem any less scared now.

I don't need to be TOLD there is a pandemic, I'll see it with my own eyes.
I don't need to be BRIBED to do something good for my health, I'll do it of my own volition.

ThreeBays says

on their narrative?

Leftists are the ones who promote narratives. Conservatives keep trying to point out facts but get censored by Leftists who prefer their convenient lies to justify their fascism. Why aren’t you living in China?

ThreeBays says

joshuatrio says

Let's make sure we're clear here -- this is the kind of statistical bullshit when the covid narrative falls apart and the left is trying to lick their wounds.

No sympathy on this attempt.

I'm waiting for you to explain how North Dakota, South Dakota, Iowa, Tennessee, Nebraska, Arkansas, etc. having more cases per capita than even New York, is statistical bullshit. It seems you don't like the facts and are quickly trying to bury it... lame.

Information missing is the amount of those tested, or tested residents of the state per capita. Like others have said, the accuracy of the testing methodology and what constitutes a case can come into question here.

You need to look at deaths as a percentage of population. Trying to link it to a political party is disingenuous. Quit trying to give blue states an out.

Explain why Florida and Georgia are dead middle of the pack - despite Florida being the third most populous state and ZERO fucking restrictions.

Bottom line, restrictions did nothing.

ThreeBays says

When they get debunked with facts, rightists never admit to being wrong... they just double down and argue that the truth is really well hidden.

What facts? There are no facts. If you truly believe that covid is dangerous and deadly at this point, you're buying a pile of shit. That's beyond dispute at this point.

I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I'm saying this isn't what you think it is. No one on this forum will die from covid and I know nothing about any of you. No one will die. This is fact.

The scare tactics are getting nauseating though. We've legitimately known of a user here that has died supposedly falling down the damn stairs. Maybe or maybe not murdered. Yet you continue to push this shit? A pandemic kills. This doesn't. Your belief is based off lies and you cannot see it. It's not conspiracy. Not tin foil hat. It's reality. Covid is not deadly to 90%+ of the population. 10% of people might have a 1-2% chance of dying. You'll die of other things before covid, including the seasonal flu.

WookieMan says

I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I'm saying this isn't what you think it is. No one on this forum will die from covid and I know nothing about any of you. No one will die. This is fact.

They have a much higher chance of dying from the jab though.

Most big leftoid cities have mostly single tds basement dwellers whereas rural states have far more family households which account for 90% of the transmissions. Lockdowns and masks in leftoid states have accomplished nothing besides destroying the economy and pleasing the hunger for fear porn of its basement dwellers.

ThreeBays says

theoakman says

New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island, CT, and MA had more deaths per 100k than every single country the majority of the pandemic. It wasn't until now that Hungary and Bulgaria finally caught up.

It's the long game that matters. Oh and Hungary (#1 in deaths per capita) is the Hydroxychloroquine world power.

lol, you apparently can't understand the fact that you have 2 million positives that never got recorded because there was no testing at the time. That doesn't count in your metric, does it?

And the reason NY has the most deaths is because of stupid misguided policies completely devoid of logic. They handled their nursing homes like they were targeted by the Death Star

ThreeBays says

but ultimately individual attitudes matter for example people will wear masks whether there's a mandate or not and vice-versa.

People are fatter and older in red states. Don't have a link to back that up, but you know it's true and would agree. There's a reason they are red states. It's their right to be fat. I don't like it, but whatever. Not my job to control other adults or the governments job.

I think most everyone here is an independent based off of comments for the most part. Per capita red states should be a blood bath of covid. They're middle of the road and don't wear masks. I'm not sure you're understanding the point being made here. Florida is half dead and fat, yet is middle of the pack per capita for deaths. They did a better job than blue states.

I honestly don't know what your OP was about. It disregards the fact that red states are older and fatter. Basically more prone to death from covid. Cases don't matter. 100% of people will get covid. In some states 1% will die and 5% in another. We know which states those are....

At this point it looks like shit is completely random and doesn't correlate with any particular policy or approach.

Eric Holder says

At this point it looks like shit is completely random and doesn't correlate with any particular policy or approach.

Density has some influence. Chicago has been hit hardest in the fat black and latino areas. Not a put down, just fact. Which is why unmasked red states, generally rural and very fat are not being hit as hard. It's damning of Fauci's approach to this.

Our government's response to a respiratory illness (lungs) is to put something over your mouth that restricts breathing and getting oxygen to the lungs. Then fidgeting with said mouth diaper that gives you less oxygen and a potential viral load you then breath in over and over. Science is complicated. What I just said though makes 100% sense. It's more logic than science.

WookieMan says

Eric Holder says

At this point it looks like shit is completely random and doesn't correlate with any particular policy or approach.

Density has some influence.

Right. But it's not policy, it's just a fact of life.

Eric Holder says

Right. But it's not policy, it's just a fact of life.

Policy should be different in different areas though is the point. NYC is way different than Eureka, IL. Policy should have been adjusted for. It wasn't with Trump and isn't with Biden. Neither are doctors, but Fauci is a cunt and both relied on the cunt. The cunt should have been canned by now.

Density, obesity and age are the primary factors of death. I don't care about cases. Getting infected is totally fine for 90% of the population. Policy should have been to protect the 10% that were vulnerable. Fauci fucked that up, just like he did with AIDS. I honestly don't understand why the guy is still employed. He's got leverage on something we'll likely never know about.

ThreeBays says

Rightists are wrong about covid policies

Leftists are pussies.

You still have not said why you voted for Biden.

That's what Sikhs do.. defend innocents.


https://abc7news.com/vta-shooting-san-jose-mass-victims-taptejdeep-singh/10701050/
San Jose mass shooting: VTA light rail operator killed while helping coworkers hide

“Even in these moments of chaos, Taptejdeep was living by the values of Sikhi: living in service and protection of others," the statement on behalf of Singh's family said, referring to his religion. "We choose to remember Taptejdeep as the hero he was, both in those final moments and throughout his life of service.”

farmer2021 says

What is the race of perpetrator?

A White "Union" worker in California, I'll give you a hint about his race.

He had to take hours upon hours of White guilt courses, and probably loved every minute of it, and voted for Biden twice in the 2020 election.

Liberals killing people, it's just what they do.

And he was probably mad at his coworkers for not coming to his gay ass, gay wedding..

@Tenpoundbass
I want unfiltered truth about race of perpetrators and victims.
This is only solution to "fix" the issues... Honesty.

farmer2021 says

@Tenpoundbass
I want unfiltered truth about race of perpetrators and victims.
This is only solution to "fix" the issues... Honesty.

Are you high? Are you racist?

farmer2021 says

Taptejdeep was living by the values of Sikhi: living in service and protection of others

I wish that Sikh guy had been armed with a gun and the traditional knife.

WineHorror1 says

farmer2021 says

@Tenpoundbass
I want unfiltered truth about race of perpetrators and victims.
This is only solution to "fix" the issues... Honesty.

Are you high? Are you racist?

I find it "racist" to hide the race of perpetrator or victims.
In a non-racist environment it shouldn't matter to speak out truth.
I am not high.

Patrick says

farmer2021 says

Taptejdeep was living by the values of Sikhi: living in service and protection of others

I wish that Sikh guy had been armed with a gun and the traditional knife.

Sikhs are started to be be co-opted by Left wing and some preach "weapon control" , which is totally against Khalsa principle of "Always ready to defend".
We suffered genocide and all hardships, But our "Gurus" has still asked to be defenders not victims.
Remember our hardships/injustice and always strive to punish the perpetrators(not innocents) in end.

Did the shooter have any 'extended vacations' at Langley?

farmer2021 says

WineHorror1 says

farmer2021 says

@Tenpoundbass
I want unfiltered truth about race of perpetrators and victims.
This is only solution to "fix" the issues... Honesty.

Are you high? Are you racist?

I find it "racist" to hide the race of perpetrator or victims.
In a non-racist environment it shouldn't matter to speak out truth.
I am not high.

There is no "fixing" mass shootings. No way to do it.

It’s not a conspiracy that it is ran by satanic pedophiles. They are anti religion, gay everything, now June is worshipping homos month. Hid Epstein crimes because were involved. Most tv anchors and left governors are homos. Shit is real.

Republicans believe

"because things have gotten so far off track, true American patriots may have to resort to violence in order to save our country."

God help us if things don't get back on track.

BUMP, in light of the Summer of Destruction and the Poisoning of Kids minds

Can one tolerate what the Lord calls an "Abomination", that is "Detestable"?

How can one justify tolerating what is Detestable to the Creator?

Shaman says

They ALWAYS have a gay guy friend. Or three. They hang out and shop with this gay guy, and it’s a relationship they keep through their string of failed Heterosexual relationships or flings.

We used to call them Fag Hags and knew to stay away from them.
The real point of getting together with you was to have some gossip for their Chablis-athons with The Boys.

Patrick says

Yes, societies have life cycles for sure. I love Ibn Khaldun for pointing this out. I still need to try to read his Muqqadimah.

Also want to read "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" by Gibbons.

I can believe that feminism and homosexuality were strong factors in the declines of both Roman and Greek civilization.

We were taught that in college, I wonder if they still teach that or no longer do because it’s offensive to certain groups.

Princeton is turning its back on the Western culture responsible for its own existence:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/princeton-removes-greek-latin-requirement-for-classics-majors-to-combat-systemic-racism/