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I believe these numbers are suspect for the following reasons
How many deaths do you believe have been caused by the jab?
How many deaths do you believe have been caused by Covid?
then we are just in useless land, and wasting our breath.
This leads me to believe that the vaccine is about 10-100 times as safe to get as getting covid.
Also, 500,000 people out of 300 million is 1 in 600, or less that .5% . So yes, I believe there is a 99.5% chance that if you don't get vaccinated you wont die.
I also think there is a 99.95% chance that if you get the vaccine you wont die.
Nobody can say they know of somebody dead of Covid because the testing is bogus
richwicks saysbut there doesn't seem to be any evidence at all, that it protects people from getting "covid".
Instead of beating down this number or that, I simply asked that you put up what you think people are dying from, and in what numbers. If you don't put up the numbers you believe, then how can you make an informed decision?
If you are saying that people with the shot are still getting covid.. what number of people do you think this is ? (I don't think it's happening, I KNOWit's happening, and have seen reported cases.. I just see a very low number here)
You literally just gave the reason not to get vaccinated. You have to actually get covid in the first place which is a low probability.
You have to actually get covid in the first place which is a low probability.
Then what's the percentage from there that you'll die
That is, unfortunately, my feeling about this discussion.
This is a very difficult number to ferret out but I recently heard from a good source that with the current levels of community spread it is roughly a 1% chance.
Trump got Covid... should we not believe that?
richwicks saysI object to that. I hate it when people lie to me, knowing they are lying to me. I have a strong distaste for propagandists and trolls. They are easy to identify for me, but I don't like endless argument.
The ignore button is a good option.
I can't give you numbers because everything is now suspect.
richwicks saysI can't give you numbers because everything is now suspect.
You can still give me numbers. You clearly think some number of people have gotten covid. How many do you think it is? How many do you think have died?
When you say "the CDC is lying" .. to what extent? are they off by one and therefore lying? Clearly you think differently.
Also, you are hearing that "the vaccine isn't safe" . How do you know that's not a lie?
Shouldn't the people you are listening to telling you that the CDC is lying and there is no reason to take the vaccine do this bare minimum step to show you what these numbers are?
NuttBoxer saysrichwicks saysI object to that. I hate it when people lie to me, knowing they are lying to me. I have a strong distaste for propagandists and trolls. They are easy to identify for me, but I don't like endless argument.
The ignore button is a good option.
I disagree. I will only ignore people when EVERYBODY recognizes a troll, is a troll.
I have 3 people ignoring me, it would be interesting to find out who they are, but it's also none of my business.
I will never place a person on ignore if I think they are honestly expressing their opinion, but I will, if I think they are dishonest and only then, if everybody else has given up on taking them seriously. Troll are one of 2 things - active paid propagandists, or assholes who work on behalf of paid propagandists. They disrup...
I can't say
You are assuming here that the risks from the vaccine are only the short term risks we have heard about so far, and which are pretty obviously grossly underreported
richwicks says
I can't say
You can say. If you say you will have a data point to be defended as your position, so you WON'T say.
Robert Sproul saysYou are assuming here that the risks from the vaccine are only the short term risks we have heard about so far, and which are pretty obviously grossly underreported
Ok Robert: How should we modify the assumptions?
FFS. If I say "I don't know" fucking believe me.
And this montage doesn't show our very own Health Secretary Psychopath
@mell
lol
q: how do we adjust this number to account for X
mell: so in paris they have tacos that are mexican tacos, but made by a aprisian, so to understand the temperature of a butterfly fart in bolivia we have to think about the individual circumstances!!!
LOL!!! fucking funny
richwicks saysFFS. If I say "I don't know" fucking believe me.
Ahahahahaha.. more fail.
YES, your bloviation is JUST AS GOOD as anything resembling an on topic discussion because you can just spew bullshit and avoid answering a question.
Rarely do blanket vaccinations make sense,
mell saysRarely do blanket vaccinations make sense,
Keep going.. This is super entertaining watching you try to spew complete bullshit and sound like you have some relevant reason to not talk about the numbers.
Yes.. Car seats!! I won't give numbers because Car seats!!
Once you see it its fucking hilarious.
So scared
Robert Sproul saysYou are assuming here that the risks from the vaccine are only the short term risks we have heard about so far, and which are pretty obviously grossly underreported
Ok Robert: How should we modify the assumptions?
This "pandemic" is cover for something. I suspect economic reset, but engh, I don't know. I'll find out in time, but it's not about a disease.
Also, you are hearing that "the vaccine isn't safe" . How do you know that's not a lie? How unsafe is it? Shouldn't the people you are listening to telling you that the CDC is lying and there is no reason to take the vaccine do this bare minimum step to show you what these numbers are?
Covid has become a religion
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No one on patrick.net may advocate the "vaccine" and remain here.
The "vaccine" is NOT SAFE. It is being relentlessly pushed by the government-media-Big Pharma complex without informed consent. This is a gross human rights violation.
The idea that is it safe is fatal misinformation.
It everyone's moral imperative to stop all injections with this dangerous substance immediately.
Every post or content advocating suicide by "vaccine" will be deleted pronto.