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Bitcoin says

Thank you man! I ordered Quercetin....
Do you work in the medical field? How do you know all this stuff?

A long time ago, but in the same galaxy, I'd started my career in biopharma but then, left for IT consulting, and finally, finished my career in finance/hedge fund work.

Throughout this time, I've always kept up with supplements and medical protocols & have been disgusted by the sheer ignorance and stupidity of medical providers who can't even figure out basic stuff.

For example, Tagamet, an OTC patent expired heartburn reliever, is at every CVS/Walgreens in the country but a majority of internal med doctors start off their patients on something newer, like Nexium, which is worse for one's health overall but the excuse is now that it inhibits h pylori (ulcer creating bacteria) better in the stomach but what no one knows is that the Mediterranean tree extract, Mastic Gum, already does that & that's a vitamin/supplement, not an Rx, at 25-40 cents/pill. So taking Tagamet w/ Mastic Gum will probably help at least 70% of the ppl out there but no, "supplements are no good", according to medical orthodoxy. I didn't realize that an area of applied science was an orthodox church of sorts.

I mean let's get real, by April of last year, it was discovered that a majority of the dead Covid patients had Vitamin D deficiency. Was it nuclear science to give some of these ppl, Vitamin D, before their symptoms were out of control? Does that command have to come down from Mount Olympus before every walk-in-clinic or ER gives supplemental D to anyone complaining about a chest cold?

You see, I had low expectations long before Covid but the response to it has been so substandard that now, I'm convinced that Beavis & Butthead run the medical profession.

very interesting Rin.....

Rin says

I mean let's get real, by April of last year, it was discovered that a majority of the dead Covid patients had Vitamin D deficiency. Was it nuclear science to give some of these ppl, Vitamin D, before their symptoms were out of control? Does that command have to come down from Mount Olympus before every wait-in-clinic or ER gives supplemental D to anyone complaining about a chest cold?

You see, I had low expectations long before Covid but the response to it has been so substandard that now, I'm convinced that Beavis & Butthead run the medical profession.

And this.....i didnt even know about the vitamin D deficiency with dead covid patents.
Funny enough....when they checked me out about my symptoms they said I have a vitamin D deficiency (never had that one in my life before). Got myself some D3 pills....

Bitcoin says

And this.....i didnt even know about the vitamin D deficiency with dead covid patents.
Funny enough....when they checked me out about my symptoms they said I have a vitamin D deficiency (never had that one in my life before). Got myself some D3 pills....

Yep, that's the Beavis & Butthead effect on the medical field practitioners.

Now, here's another story of the heartburn Rx, Nexium ... guess what's one of its side effects? ... Vitamin D deficiency.

Yes, so in place of a safe knock punch of Mastic Gum/Tagamet, we now have to add Vitamin D just to stay at some low baseline.

Rin says

Now, here's another story of the heartburn Rx, Nexium ... guess what's one of its side effects? ... Vitamin D deficiency.

Lol, my mom was just talking about this an hour ago after I got back from Milwaukee. She took the vax months ago and seems fine and well. I still don't trust it. If you have heartburn, figure out your diet issue and/or drink less. One of the easiest ailments to solve and it checks a lot of other boxes in the positive health column without an RX or even supplements.

Rin says

Now, more than a month ago, I used

4000 mg Flax Seed Oil (mostly used as a lipid based solvent)
4000 mg Turmeric with Bioperine
3000 mg Quercetin (This is a LOT!)
3000 mg Ascorbate (Vitamin C in salt form)
2000 mg Allisure Allicin (Active ingredient in Garlic, fully isolated)
1000 mg R-Lipoic Acid (Thioctic Acid which recycles all antioxidants including Glutathione)
1000 mg Enteric Coated Aspirin
200 mg Zinc

per day for two days.

Per your advice, I bought some high quality fish oil pills and take one with each of my Quercetin vitamin packs. Fish oil should be good, right?

Also, do you think taking Quercetin, Zinc, etc. would stop other viruses from taking hold such as HSV-1/2 or HIV? It would be awesome to know I'm protected from contracting those as well if I'm being a slut.

porkchopexpress says

Per your advice, I bought some high quality fish oil pills and take one with each of my Quercetin vitamin packs. Fish oil should be good, right?

Also, do you think taking Quercetin, Zinc, etc. would stop other viruses from taking hold such as HSV-1/2 or HIV? It would be awesome to know I'm protected from contracting those as well if I'm being a slut.

Yes, Fish Oil is good but can't say for all viruses. You'll need to do your own research.

Rin says

porkchopexpress says

Per your advice, I bought some high quality fish oil pills and take one with each of my Quercetin vitamin packs. Fish oil should be good, right?

Also, do you think taking Quercetin, Zinc, etc. would stop other viruses from taking hold such as HSV-1/2 or HIV? It would be awesome to know I'm protected from contracting those as well if I'm being a slut.

Yes, Fish Oil is good but can't say for all viruses. You'll need to do your own research.

I'm curious if this regimen will help against Influenza.

Fallopia says

Quercetin will do nothing for you. It's a well-known "frequent hitter" encountered during in-vitro biological screening, but has no effect in-vivo. Anyone who knows anything about pharmacology knows this.

That's not what I've read. Granted, you need to take Quercetin with Zinc because Q allows Z to get into cells to destroy the virus.

Rin says

By now, it should be clear to anyone reading Rin's postings, that he's the one man wrecking crew against the Covid crisis, as well as against the Femi-Nazis holding American men by the balls and stealing their monies.

How do you plan on preserving your awesome genetics?

Here's the Pub Med site of the National Library of Medicine

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/

Type in your supplement and a particular illness

So Tagamet or Cimetidine


So search on Cimetidine aspirin damage

And you get as first article

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2979681/

Cimetidine decreases aspirin-induced gastric mucosal damage in humans
D L Hogan 1 , F J Thomas, J I Isenberg

Affiliations

PMID: 2979681 DOI: 10.1111/j.1365-2036.1987.tb00638.x

Abstract

Aspirin induces gastric mucosal damage in animals and humans. The purpose of this study was to examine whether cimetidine protects the human gastric mucosa from acute aspirin-induced damage. Eight healthy subjects were studied on 4 separate days. Cimetidine, 400 mg, or placebo was given orally 1 hour before initial endoscopy. The stomach was isolated and atropine given to suppress basal acid secretion. Each study consisted of four 15 min periods during which an acidic test solution was instilled into the stomach. During the second period only, either aspirin (1300 mg, 36 mmol) or control for aspirin (36 mmol HCl) was added to the test solution. Ion fluxes and gastric mucosal potential difference were measured, and endoscopy performed following each test. After placebo, aspirin significantly altered hydrogen ion flux and potential difference versus basal and control. Cimetidine decreased the damaging effect of aspirin. Endoscopic scores increased after aspirin plus placebo, whereas they remained unchanged after aspirin plus cimetidine. Therefore, cimetidine decreased aspirin-induced gastric mucosal damage in humans. As gastric acidity was identical during all studies, the effect of cimetidine was independent of gastric acid secretion.

porkchopexpress says

That's not what I've read. Granted, you need to take Quercetin with Zinc because Q allows Z to get into cells to destroy the virus

Even before the Zinc uptake, you need Q in the blood and that's a bit tricky as it's poorly absorbed in the GI tract so ppl have been looking at ways of making it more bioavailable, like dissolving it in oil along with using the pineapple enzyme Bromelain.

Someone even cooked it at a low temp w/ a slice of onion to bind it to a sugar complex. This was from a research paper in Japan.

Or suspending it in a lyposome, etc. The suppement makers are getting smarter over time than in just straight Quercetin Dihydrate.

I've been taking my Q with Bromelain, but now I just added fish oil pills too. Can't hurt me so I'll continue to do it.

Fallopia says

Quercetin is nonsense.

Nonsense? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33034398/
https://wholefoodsmagazine.com/suppliers/news-suppliers/quercetin-studied-in-covid-19-patients/

porkchopexpress says

Fallopia says

Quercetin is nonsense.

Nonsense? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33034398/
https://wholefoodsmagazine.com/suppliers/news-suppliers/quercetin-studied-in-covid-19-patients/

Using your own link there,

There's one on the Quercetin Phytosome, which is a type of micelle delivery mechanism

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33016666/

Excerpt: "After hydrolysis of the conjugated form (mainly glucuronide) of quercetin found in human plasma, the pharmacokinetics results have demonstrated an increased bioavailability rate by about 20-fold for total quercetin. It has been also observed that the presence of specific glucuronidase could yield free systemic quercetin in human body."

There is progress out there.

I've been taking vitamin D and garlic supplements, I seem to not catch anything lately. Man this pandemic got a lot of people gaining weight, a lot of it. People need to go outside get vitamin D and start walking it off. Women look like giant loafs of bread now around here.

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says

garlic supplements

Unfortunately, there's only one garlic supplement which has the true Allicin and that's Allisure Allicin. The others are mash ups with a hope of a certain percentage of Allicin being converted from the garlic pulp.

Rin says

By now, it should be clear to anyone reading Rin's postings, that he's the one man wrecking crew against the Covid crisis,

@Rin. If one has access to hydroxychloroquine and/or ivermectin would you still recommend quercetin? Remove the limitation of non-prescription and what regimen would you use yourself if you were pressured to get one of the covid jabs? IYO what is the single best protocol to deal with the side effects of the J&J jab?

Where do you guys get ivermectin? It requires prescription right?

For humans, it requires a prescription.

For animals, it's basically free in every feed store. We used to give it to our chickens. There's also a horse version.

Guy on Bad Tube showed how to use horse ivermectin, easy peasy. I have ordered some to try next time a cold or flu comes along.

stfu says

If one has access to hydroxychloroquine and/or ivermectin would you still recommend quercetin?

Here's the thing with Rx (even if it's bought from some overseas Rx w/o FDA regulators on it), dosage matters and thus, the idea that "if one 200 mg pill works than ... 10 of them is even better" and that's where one makes the evening news getting one's stomach pumped at the ER. And then, we get all these idiots blaming Trump for that overdose.

In contrast, your GI tract will tell you if 10,000 mg of Que is too much, even if you get the more bioavailable Phytosome formulation. In other words, no risk of overdosing.

I say, as preventative supplement, minimize the Rx but keep all the rest as those are all natural and the body has an easier time with them.

For instance, I do Aspirin once in three days and White Willow Bark the other two. I still get the superior blood thinning effects of Aspirin but w/o too much pressure on my system in case of some unforseen internal bleeding.

That's my plan. Do Quercetin, Zinc, Vit D/C/B/K, etc daily, and then take Ivermectin for the moment I get symptoms. I got mine at AllDayChemist

porkchopexpress says

That's my plan. Do Quercetin, Zinc, Vit D/C/B/K, etc daily, and then take Ivermectin for the moment I get symptoms. I got mine at AllDayChemist

Here's the thing, among Rin's dozen guinea pigs, no one has gotten anything, since spring of 2020, and 3 of them have even had their normal spring/summer allergies disappear.

One has even reversed his adult onset diabetes.

What that's hinting at, is that allopathic medicine, aside from let's say trauma medicine & other emergency measures, know zip about prevention and how to keep ppl healthy.

Patrick says

For humans, it requires a prescription.

For animals, it's basically free in every feed store. We used to give it to our chickens. There's also a horse version.

Which means that you really don't need a prescription, just like for antibiotics.

Rin says

porkchopexpress says

That's my plan. Do Quercetin, Zinc, Vit D/C/B/K, etc daily, and then take Ivermectin for the moment I get symptoms. I got mine at AllDayChemist

Here's the thing, among Rin's dozen guinea pigs, no one has gotten anything, since spring of 2020, and 3 of them have even had their normal spring/summer allergies disappear.

One has even reversed his adult onset diabetes.

What that's hinting at, is that allopathic medicine, aside from let's say trauma medicine & other emergency measures, know zip about prevention and how to keep ppl healthy.

nice!

I started taking Vitamins too, just as a precautionary measure (A, C, and D). So far so good. But I already had covid at some point.

A study on Quercetin Phytosome

https://patrick.net/post/1340407/2021-08-01-i-guess-better-late-than-never-but-here

Rin says

A study on Quercetin Phytosome

https://patrick.net/post/1340407/2021-08-01-i-guess-better-late-than-never-but-here

To repeat from a related thread on PatNet:

https://www.thorne.com/products/dp/quercetin-phytosome

Rin for the win!

stereotomy says

Rin for the win!

To paraphrase Herman Melville ... "call me World Emperor"