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WineHorror1 says

I give up. I have 4 other siblings and 3 of them are vaxers and scared.

Sounds like you have my problem. A lot of stupid runs in the family.

Shaman says

WineHorror1 says

I give up. I have 4 other siblings and 3 of them are vaxers and scared.

Sounds like you have my problem. A lot of stupid runs in the family.

Everyone has some form of the problem. I've learned to just shut up and help where I can. Karma so to speak. I can't stand any of my sister in laws. Mother in law showed up drunk with my kids and nephew this afternoon... she drove them after an overnight at her place. Last time...

4 Sisters total. Only one is tolerable for more than a day or two. She doesn't pay her own cell phone bill or car insurance at 30 years old. Her husband plays professional sports and gets paid okay. Sorry, don't want to dox myself too much and say the sport.

My wife is the oldest and by a long shot most successful out of the 5 girls. Jealousy is brutal within families. A fuck ton of darts and digs are thrown our way. We've learned it's part of the game. Wish it wasn't, but you can't let it upset you. If they were smarter, they'd be doing better than you and you'd respect their opinion more. They're idiots. Mom has zero family leadership skills and is an alcoholic. Get togethers almost certainly result in a blow up of some sort.

My lesson is just let them be stupid and keep your mouth shut. You aren't going to change stupid. You're not even going to change average.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

Putin has said he does not support vaccine mandates. This has to reinforce the Resistance....I mean the Vaccine Zealot's resolve to vaccinate every living creature.

WookieMan says

Get togethers almost certainly result in a blow up of some sort.

I can help with this.

You should never take personal insult from somebody you don't think is correct. As a result, you should ignore it when anybody is calling your stupid, crazy, moronic, dumb, etc unless you suspect they are correct. You don't need to defend yourself against such "criticism".

Likewise, you never call anybody stupid, crazy, moronic, or dumb. Only evaluate their position, and ask them for their reasoning and explain your reasoning that you followed to come to your conclusion. Do not be upset when somebody who has insulted you is correct and you are wrong. When somebody points out an error in your reasoning or logic, they have done you a favor.

People, very incorrectly, believe that accepting they are wrong is a sign of weakness. It's the opposite. As you learn to accept your errors, over and over again, eventually, you rarely make errors in logic and reasoning.

The only time I get angry with somebody in a discussion is if I believe they are expressing an opinion, they don't actually hold. They are trying to misinform me either actively, or unconsciously. Essentially, they are drawing me into a conversation to simply waste my time.

porkchopexpress says

Does anyone have any studies or sources that suggest the vaccines can actually hurt natural immunity? I swear I read or saw something that the 2nd dose of an mRNA vaccine could be harmful to the immunity of those already infected.

@porkchopexpress Yes, I've seen that several times now in scientific papers.

It would be some work to find the URLs for them, but the scientists are saying this.

I'm pretty sure Geert Vanden Bossche talks about how the vaxx lowers your "innate immunity" but I have a hard time understanding the immunology:

https://37b32f5a-6ed9-4d6d-b3e1-5ec648ad9ed9.filesusr.com/ugd/28d8fe_266039aeb27a4465988c37adec9cd1dc.pdf

Robert Sproul says

Putin has said he does not support vaccine mandates

Yes, several sources claim this while also shrieking at what a horrible idea it is to let people make their own medical decisions.

So I'm pretty damn sure it's true. Vlad is not pro-mandates.

Patrick says

can actually hurt natural immunity

As Alex "Banned" Berenson discusses in this article https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/insanity-in-vietnam "some short-term vaccine-driven suppression of the immune system" is likely.
So you get a few weeks of enhanced susceptibility, then a few months at most of some limited protections, all for the price of some significant short term risk and completely unknowable long term risks. What a deal.

@Jimmy_Jeans
3h
Replying to @RWMaloneMD
New Covid Pre-print:
Drs Ioannidis & Axfors at Stanford

Age Infection Survival Rate
0-19 99.9973%
20-29 99.986%
30-39 99.969%
40-49 99.918%
50-59 99.73%
60-69 99.41%
70+ 97.6% (non-inst.)
70+ 94.5% (all)

https://twitter.com/Jimmy_Jeans/status/1432167093999480841#m

Israelis lab ratting their people again:

https://t.me/FirstAmendmentPraetorian/3947

Wo

https://www.theepochtimes.com/pfizer-board-member-natural-immunity-against-covid-needs-to-be-included-in-policy-discussions_3971383.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net

porkchopexpress says

Wo

https://www.theepochtimes.com/pfizer-board-member-natural-immunity-against-covid-needs-to-be-included-in-policy-discussions_3971383.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net

Pfizer Board Member: ‘Natural Immunity’ Against COVID-19 Needs to Be Included in Policy Discussions
By Jack Phillips August 30, 2021

Former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Scott Gottlieb, who is also a Pfizer board member, noted that “natural immunity” gained from a prior COVID-19 infection needs to be included in discussions about virus-related policies and mandates.

This is the first time any former FDA official has said anything other than EVERY HUMAN MUST BE JABBED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND THE MONEY MUST GO TO MY COMPANY.

Note his whopping conflict of interest in going from the FDA to Pfizer. This is corruption turned up to 11, and out in the open.

But it's a promising development that he mumbled this.

Science coming in; The "vaccine" does less than NOTHING to improve all cause mortality.

"US COVID-19 Vaccines Proven to Cause More Harm than Good Based on Pivotal Clinical Trial Data Analyzed Using the Proper Scientific Endpoint, “All Cause Severe Morbidity”"
https://www.scivisionpub.com/pdfs/us-covid19-vaccines-proven-to-cause-more-harm-than-good-based-on-pivotal-clinical-trial-data-analyzed-using-the-proper-scientific--1811.pdf

(not that it matters, like masks and lock-downs)

This has been obvious since March/April this year. I hate people that shit on anecdotal evidence, but it does matter. Even one case of a vaccinated person testing positive tosses out everything. WTF are you taking if it doesn't work? I'm not even talking adverse events. I'm talking getting infected again. What was the point? Now throw in adverse events and again, what the fucking point of taking it.

For those that have, my intention isn't to make you feel bad, but what was the fucking point? You had zero clue and same with the medical community. They'd be fired from their jobs. Fauci needs to be in jail at minimum and frankly hanged from the town square (not suggesting anyone do this, only if through legal means). I think we're unraveling and Biden at the helm isn't helping.

WookieMan says

I think we're unraveling and Biden at the helm isn't helping.

This is a test if you haven't realized it.

Either we become slaves, or we regain our freedom pretty soon.

I am personally glad that one of the most disgusting, vile, incompetent, corrupt, dishonest, warmongering people of the DNC is "president". He's a white, presumably entirely heterosexual, male - so any criticism can't be deflected as "oh you're racist, oh you hate women" or any of that nonsense.

This pathetic, senile, puppet is the PERFECT person to be "president" at this time.

Oh, and the cherry on top, he's supposedly the most popular presidential candidate in all of US history. Largest percentage of the eligible vote ever. We couldn't have a better setup on this chess board.

12 cops versus one brave, unmasked woman.

https://distincttoday.net/2021/08/31/coronavirus-australia-furious-protester-is-crash-tackled-by-cops-in-sydneys-bankstown/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9943015/Coronavirus-Australia-Furious-protester-crash-tackled-cops-Sydneys-Bankstown.html

Here's the video - shocking. Found instantly with qwant while gulag censores it.

The most "liberal" are by far the most fascist.

mell says

Here's the video - shocking. Found instantly with qwant while gulag censores it.

Best bet is to ignore and nod IF you interact at all I've found. I haven't gotten to the level of pretending to be deaf, but it's work so far in the rare circumstances it has happened. If I have to go full retard and talk like I'm deaf I will. Just nodding and walking by the person, even in a store tends to work. I'm generally not in masked stores though.

WookieMan says

mell says

Here's the video - shocking. Found instantly with qwant while gulag censores it.

Best bet is to ignore and nod IF you interact at all I've found. I haven't gotten to the level of pretending to be deaf, but it's work so far in the rare circumstances it has happened. If I have to go full retard and talk like I'm deaf I will. Just nodding and walking by the person, even in a store tends to work. I'm generally not in masked stores though.

Responding in some obscure foreign language works too. If you don't speak any obscure foreign languages - speak in tongues. =))

Thank Effing Gawd. We don't have to worry about being vax refugees fleeing the state for a bit. Maybe publishing the phone numbers of all those miscreant Soros fecal impaction California pols worked. They have to stop the screaming hatred 24/24.
At least a reprieve for a few months. Hopefully, by that time, the vax horror will be so apparent they can't continue to impose it. Also, the Airforce Academy, who previously said that the cadets who did not report for vax yesterday would be expelled, relented also. Did they get word that they were going to lose a substantial portion of their student body?

Ceffer says

Thank Effing Gawd. We don't have to worry about being vax refugees fleeing the state for a bit.

Just for a bit.

I'm going to start an anti-mandate email newsletter to be ready for the next attempt.

Patrick says

Just for a bit.

I'm going to start an anti-mandate email newsletter to be ready for the next attempt.

Likely the ONLY reason was that they don't want to cause more rage and hate against Newsom for the recall election, so they will table it for now. It also shows they know full well that what they are doing is criminal and wrong.

Right, so it makes sense to get the anti-mandate movement going even stronger right now.

Ultimately, we need the death penalty for all government and "public health" officials, employers, and university presidents who mandate injections. It's that huge a violation of human rights. It is truly a crime against humanity.

Indoor masks are back here in IL. No one cares if you don't wear it though. It's getting comical at this point. Prickzker has no authority. Everyone hates him. Employees won't enforce the dumb ass "mandate" or whatever. You usually get a nod of agreement from them. If I see you wearing a mask I look at you as if you're a walking piece of shit. Didn't know shit could walk.

WookieMan says

Indoor masks are back here in IL. No one cares if you don't wear it though.

That's fine for adults walking into bars or stores. But what is happening with the kids in schools in Illinois?

HeadSet says

WookieMan says

Indoor masks are back here in IL. No one cares if you don't wear it though.

That's fine for adults walking into bars or stores. But what is happening with the kids in schools in Illinois?

It's shit. I'm not homeschooling though. Kids have to wear them. At least they stopped in during sports. They get breaks during the day. Fucking joke.

I know I sound compliant, but I'm not. I've got ears on the school board, but Prickzker has made it so you literally cannot graduate high school if you don't wear a mask. I'd like to say some things illegal, but I'll hold back.

WookieMan says

Prickzker has made it so you literally cannot graduate high school if you don't wear a mask.

It is like the politicians are practicing to become despots. And I have to deal with a farm team despot college president who has held my daughter's final year hostage to taking the jab. And even though the college president said no masks after the jabs, masks suddenly became required right after the tuition due date, vaxxed or not.

HeadSet says

And even though the college president said no masks after the jabs, masks suddenly became required right after the tuition due date, vaxxed or not.

It's completely fucked up. My kids are pretty tough, but at 8, 9 and 10 it's totally twisted. They don't need to be wearing masks. I don't care about variants. I'm no biologist by any stretch, but a biologist/virologist has no business telling me what to do. Then you throw in the politicians.

I got burned by the housing bust buying a 2 flat in 2006 when I was 22. The mental mind fuck that is going on right now is exponentially worse. It's why I rant here everyday. I bought at the wrong time, didn't BK, but had to dump it 2010. Was young and didn't know better. Oh well, took the heat with the credit hit and if I could have held on it's probably $600k now and I bought for $310k. Whatever... hindsight 20/20 or whatever.

I literally have to have a q-tip jammed up my nose to visit a US territory. Don't even need a passport. I need to get nose raped to travel every once in a while. Then, once cleared, fly on a plane with a face mask for 3-4 hours. Planes are not built for guys my height. It's already tight. Now you ask me to strap something to my face??? Get fucked. My 2 flat hurt my ego, but this medical stuff is pure bull shit.

Too lazy to check my notes, but I've been on a plane (one way) about 18 times now since the beginning of this shit. Sitting in an airport for 2-4 hours. I've yet to get Covid. Eat out 1-2 times a week minimum, sometimes 3 with the wife;) . Wife is back at conferences with thousands of people. As far as we know, no covid. Sorry to the boomers that still have massive influence, but fucking deal with the fact you're gonna die at some point. Let younger people and especially children live a god damn normal life. That too much to ask? Not all, but most boomers are fucking cowards and losers.

WookieMan says

HeadSet says

And even though the college president said no masks after the jabs, masks suddenly became required right after the tuition due date, vaxxed or not.

It's completely fucked up. My kids are pretty tough, but at 8, 9 and 10 it's totally twisted. They don't need to be wearing masks. I don't care about variants. I'm no biologist by any stretch, but a biologist/virologist has no business telling me what to do. Then you throw in the politicians.

I got burned by the housing bust buying a 2 flat in 2006 when I was 22. The mental mind fuck that is going on right now is exponentially worse. It's why I rant here everyday. I bought at the wrong time, didn't BK, but had to dump it 2010. Was young and didn't know better. Oh well, took the heat with the credit hit and if I could have held on it's probably $600k now and I bought for $310k. Whatever... hindsight 20/20 or whatever.
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Agreed, what the boomers are doing is pretty fucked up. Here in CA the kids have to wear masks all day in school, even outside, only for eating they can take them off. I have instructed the kid to take it off as much as possible and actively work against those assholes so he can get more oxygen and less co2. These people are fucking chid abusers. Fuck em. The resistance has just started.

mell says

Agreed, what the boomers are doing is pretty fucked up.

Mind you I don't blame them all (boomers). Most I know are on my side of the ledger, but most don't have any power to shift anything. The issue I have is this isn't an A or B choice, and that's what is being presented by mostly boomer leaders. There's a whole alphabet of decisions that can be made.

We're given these chosen outcomes as if they'll happen. You don't wear a mask, you die. You wear a mask, you live. That is the f'ing culture 500+ days after this shit started. Math doesn't lie. We're talking 99% plus survival rate across all demographics. My kids need to wear a mask in school. For what? You're lucky IF you even get the virus. Last year ~4% of student and staff got covid in our district. No one died or was hospitalized. WTF are we doing? And it's only going to get worse this fall.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/10-reasons-why-the-fda-approval-for-pfizer-jab-isnt-about-health-but-about-forcing-people-to-take-the-shot/

https://www.aier.org/article/absolute-power-is-no-covid-safety-net/