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Did you have loss of taste? I had a massive headache and moderate fever starting Sunday, a mild dry cough which eventually though becomes productive (but makes your head hurt) and body pains. No loss of sense of taste though, maybe mild but that's true of all colds

NuttBoxer says

I'll have permanent immunity that anyone who got the shot may never be able to achieve.

You may be immune but your not vaccinated. No passport for you!

mell says

Did you have loss of taste? I had a massive headache and moderate fever starting Sunday, a mild dry cough which eventually though becomes productive (but makes your head hurt) and body pains. No loss of sense of taste though, maybe mild but that's true of all colds

No loss of taste, but my daughter had that symptom last year. Everyone else was fine though.

Gotta realize that anything and everything that could be a symptom of "covid" is covid. Hell, they even said pink eye was a symptom a while back. It's a joke.

NuttBoxer says

When did people get so scared of getting sick?

You've asked the question of the pandemic. Fear itself will raise BP and anxiety and just cause more harm. Everyone with 20 years left in life WILL get covid. There's no point in fearing it. Be ready to treat it. Stay healthy. Supplement as you say. None of this is being said. Instead vaccine, vaccine, vaccine.... Oh wait, cases are close to as high without a vaccine last year. Statistically the vaccine doesn't work. Don't give a shit what big pharma or Fauci is saying. It's math. Hence the line "trust the science." It's a god damn math problem, not science.

NuttBoxer says

Thought about pulling out the hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin, but kind of wanting to save those for when they're really needed

I thought they work the best when deployed the earliest, no?

joshuatrio says

mell says

Did you have loss of taste? I had a massive headache and moderate fever starting Sunday, a mild dry cough which eventually though becomes productive (but makes your head hurt) and body pains. No loss of sense of taste though, maybe mild but that's true of all colds

No loss of taste, but my daughter had that symptom last year. Everyone else was fine though.

Gotta realize that anything and everything that could be a symptom of "covid" is covid. Hell, they even said pink eye was a symptom a while back. It's a joke.

That's why I tend to believe it's not covid until tested, but even the tests are flaky. Everybody though thinks you have covid as soon as you you fever and a cough The flu has completely disappeared as well,so we'll see what the test says

I had something I thought was the coof for almost 3 weeks couple of month ago but didn't get tested because it would trigger a shitstorm in my kids two schools. After fully recovering and waiting for 2 or 3 weeks I went to get an antibody test. No antibodies for coof, so it wasn't it.

Eric Holder says

I had something I thought was the coof for almost 3 weeks couple of month ago but didn't get tested because it would trigger a shitstorm in my kids two schools. After fully recovering and waiting for 2 or 3 weeks I went to get an antibody test. No antibodies for coof, so it wasn't it.

You can test at home and don't tell anybody (e.g. binax home kit), it's your fucking privacy. But then again, prob doesn't matter unless you get the antibody exception later, e.g. many countries in Europe accept natural immunity. If people just stayed home when they're sick the majority of the transmissions would be prevented.

mell says

If people just stayed home when they're sick the majority of the transmissions would be prevented.

I did not discover "stay home when sick" and "wash your fucking hands" because of the coof "epidemic" - I've always been weird like that. =))

Eric Holder says

I thought they work the best when deployed the earliest, no?

Definitely, but you gotta understand. I don't take medication, ever. Those are mostly for if I think someone in the family picked up the spike protein from an experimental human shedding.

mell says

That's why I tend to believe it's not covid

If you don't deplete your zinc levels, that will never be a symptom. Doesn't mean you didn't get covid, does mean you are in better health than most.

joshuatrio says

Same here. Something ripped through our family this last week. Took about 2 days, but we're fine.

Huh, wife just had a cold. Only about 2 days for her too.

NuttBoxer says

Eric Holder says

I thought they work the best when deployed the earliest, no?

Definitely, but you gotta understand. I don't take medication, ever. Those are mostly for if I think someone in the family picked up the spike protein from an experimental human shedding.

What supplements did you take?

NuttBoxer says

permanent immunity

You won’t have permanent immunity

NuttBoxer says

If you don't deplete your zinc levels, that will never be a symptom.

IDK if anyone remembers ZICAM, a zinc-compound-containing nasal gel that worked to attack the common cold at its root in the nasal mucosa. I used to SWEAR by that stuff, to stave off burgeoning colds etc., and I'm the type of person who doesn't even take tylenol casually. It ended up being pulled from the market because of a statistically significant number of people losing their sense of smell AFTER using it. I don't think a specific causal mechanism was ever identified.

Automan Empire says

NuttBoxer says

If you don't deplete your zinc levels, that will never be a symptom.

IDK if anyone remembers ZICAM, a zinc-compound-containing nasal gel that worked to attack the common cold at its root in the nasal mucosa. I used to SWEAR by that stuff, to stave off burgeoning colds etc., and I'm the type of person who doesn't even take tylenol casually. It ended up being pulled from the market because of a statistically significant number of people losing their sense of smell AFTER using it. I don't think a specific causal mechanism was ever identified.

Yep, Zicam was awesome.

The loss of smell was caused by people using it improperly - you were not supposed to stick it deeply into your nose.

BayArea says

You won’t have permanent immunity

An interesting issue. The short answer would be memory B and T cells, and the abilty to respond more quickly upon subesequent exposure. But even before exposure and the subsequent adaptive immune response, we have a repertoire of around 10^10-10^11 unique B cell receptors. The number of unique possible T cell receptors is also quite large. So within your native repertoire, honed through centures of evolution, or provided by a brilliant creator, exists the capability to recognize and respond to a huge range of antigens.

Eric Holder says

Automan Empire says

NuttBoxer says

If you don't deplete your zinc levels, that will never be a symptom.

IDK if anyone remembers ZICAM, a zinc-compound-containing nasal gel that worked to attack the common cold at its root in the nasal mucosa. I used to SWEAR by that stuff, to stave off burgeoning colds etc., and I'm the type of person who doesn't even take tylenol casually. It ended up being pulled from the market because of a statistically significant number of people losing their sense of smell AFTER using it. I don't think a specific causal mechanism was ever identified.

Yep, Zicam was awesome.

The loss of smell was caused by people using it improperly - you were not supposed to stick it deeply into your nose.

I always thought that was bullshit and maybe a plot by BP to not lose too much market share. I mean how can you lose your sense of smell permanently unless the nerves are destroyed which yeah you'd have to use physical violence, zinc doesn't do that. Who knows

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

BayArea says

You won’t have permanent immunity

An interesting issue. The short answer would be memory B and T cells, and the abilty to respond more quickly upon subesequent exposure. But even before exposure and the subsequent adaptive immune response, we have a repertoire of around 10^10-10^11 unique B cell receptors. The number of unique possible T cell receptors is also quite large. So within your native repertoire, honed through centures of evolution, or provided by a brilliant creator, exists the capability to recognize and respond to a huge range of antigens.

Def close enough to permanent immunity for all practical cases/considerations

they are marking everyone with vaccine.

NuttBoxer says

mell says

That's why I tend to believe it's not covid

If you don't deplete your zinc levels, that will never be a symptom. Doesn't mean you didn't get covid, does mean you are in better health than most.

Also it started with a night of insomnia for no reason even before any illness symptons started the next day. Yes, prolonged sleep is hard to get with it, but I don't find that much different from the flu or bad colds.

BayArea says

NuttBoxer says

permanent immunity

You won’t have permanent immunity

And you know this how?

porkchopexpress says

What supplements did you take?

Our standard ones for being sick are zinc(Douglas), double the dosage of vitamin C and take twice daily(Mercola liposomal), and echinacea(Now). Stuff we also now take in addition(only when sick), NAC(Thorne), and horse tail. Some natural stuff I got specifically for Covid, but forgot about taking until the end(beginning for the wife), sweet wormwood(HerbPharm), and Yling Yling essential oil.

BayArea says

You won’t have permanent immunity

Studies show 20+ years whenever you recover from a viral infection. Covid has been around forever, so not to say I'll never get a covid virus, just won't ever get this covid virus again.

mell says

Also it started with a night of insomnia for no reason even before any illness symptons started the next day. Yes, prolonged sleep is hard to get with it, but I don't find that much different from the flu or bad colds.

Fair point. But there is something here that seems almost psychological. Kind of a lack of interest/enthusiasm/caring about anything at all well sick. I was eating mostly to keep up my energy, not because I wanted to. And cooking smells made me feel physically sick more than once. I've heard people say it's a hope-stealing, spiritual malady. I wouldn't go that far, but there's something off about it for sure.

Again, I think someone needs to get a hold of a more complete sequence to see what they're hiding.

Spoke with a friend who is very average(meaning bad) when it comes to health. He's full into the shots being salvation, and Covid a killer. Shared our experience to try and get him to see another perspective. His grampa recently passed(took all his covid shots). Said the doctor told him, his grampa was the only person he knew who had died after getting the shots. He also told me a co-worker who he labeled as "organic hippy", who refused the shots, died from covid. I pointed out that ourselves, and two people we knew who hadn't gotten any shots all dealt with covid with no problems, and the two people we knew(first hand), were not in the best physical health.

Point being, for my friend to be correct in his beliefs would highly improbable from a statistical perspective. First that his gramapa is the first person at that hospital to die from covid having the shots. Second, that the co-worker is as healthy as he claims given that she assuredly died in the hospital, and ourselves and the people we knew, were never anywhere close to going in. So again, the odds of us being the outliers, are super high.

On the other hand he and his family all took the shots, all still got covid. His sense of smell is still not recovered, and he has trouble working because he has "fog brain". He also had to go on some special treatment when he got it because he was a high risk case, again despite the shots.

Seriously, how many improbable outcomes does someone have to believe to buy into the narrative. Really astounding...

NuttBoxer says

mell says

Also it started with a night of insomnia for no reason even before any illness symptons started the next day. Yes, prolonged sleep is hard to get with it, but I don't find that much different from the flu or bad colds.

Fair point. But there is something here that seems almost psychological. Kind of a lack of interest/enthusiasm/caring about anything at all well sick. I was eating mostly to keep up my energy, not because I wanted to. And cooking smells made me feel physically sick more than once. I've heard people say it's a hope-stealing, spiritual malady. I wouldn't go that far, but there's something off about it for sure.

Again, I think someone needs to get a hold of a more complete sequence to see what they're hiding.

Agreed but I had something like that but far worse many years ago during the swine flu epidemic but could never fully pin down the causating agent. Took me 5 full years to fully recover from its long tail. If this is indeed covid, that is. Viruses effect people very differently and can def have psychological effects, even if natural. But yes let's see the complete genome, I thought it had been analyzed by a few scientists already and posed by the chinese(which of course doesn't say much)

NuttBoxer says

Mostly based on the weird combination of symptoms. Started with a headache and fever, and ended with an ear/nose/throat infection. Nasty combination, never had anything like that before. Thought about pulling out the hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin, but kind of wanting to save those for when they're really needed, so just our normal regiment of supplements, plus the extra stuff we take when we're sick. Wife got it when I was at the tail end. So far our daughters seem fine. Fever lasted for five days, normally I never have one longer than three. No loss of smell. From what I read, that's due to depletion of zinc in the body, which is impossible for us due to the supplements.

Nasty sickness for sure. Saps your appetite, and hard to get good sleep. I can see how people in poor health could easily be pushed over the edge. Was thinking about the two times governments have refused to turn over the DNA sequence(Ireland and Canada), and now I'm thinking it's not because the...

Was going to say I never take any continuous medication and always try to toughen it out first but not taking any Tylenol or ibuprofen with a cold/flu is pretty hard-core, kudos. I def do take those briefly on tough colds/flus so I can at least get a few things done

mell says

I thought it had been analyzed by a few scientists already and posed by the chinese(which of course doesn't say much)

The Chinese sequence is the only one I've heard that was released, and that was supposed to be a very small fragment of the entire sequence.

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Aaand it's positive, it's like a pregnancy test! Where do I get my natural immunity card now? Sure won't get jabbed now, with any vaccine

Interesting @mell

Let us know what symptoms you have and how it goes.

mell says

Aaand it's positive, it's like a pregnancy test! Where do I get my natural immunity card now? Sure won't get jabbed now, with any vaccine

Do you want to hang out? We could have a Covid party.

Patrick says

Interesting @mell

Let us know what symptoms you have and how it goes.

Would any of you advise getting a PCR test from a testing station as a verification of recovery? It's valid for 6 months in Germany in lieu of vaccination for example, but the drawback is the invasive nature of the questions and if you give your real address all those neurotic people will get a warning on their cell phone that somebody close by has the coof? Pros and cons.

Onvacation says

mell says

Aaand it's positive, it's like a pregnancy test! Where do I get my natural immunity card now? Sure won't get jabbed now, with any vaccine

Do you want to hang out? We could have a Covid party.

Well I rode the 101 bus which is pretty nice but has zero ventilation for some reason. You may be able to get it from there as well ;)

Patrick says

Interesting @mell

Let us know what symptoms you have and how it goes.

Massive headache, body aches, chills and sweats, fever, dry cough which can turn productive, mild chest congestion, slightly runny nose, no appetite, mild nausea and indigestion. Feels pretty much like a flu. But I'm on day 4 now and think I should be done with it completely by end of the week. Medications taken: horse dewormer, ibuprofen, aspirin, tylenol. We're also starting the wife on the horse dewormer for prevention, plus full Rin protocol and upped Vit D.

Awww, mell got his Covid cherry popped. I can't believe it has been almost 1 year for me...I feel like a veteran.

mell says

Massive headache, body aches, chills and sweats, fever, dry cough which can turn productive, mild chest congestion, slightly runny nose, no appetite, mild nausea and indigestion. Feels pretty much like a flu. But I'm on day 4 now and think I should be done with it completely by end of the week. Medications taken: horse dewormer, ibuprofen, aspirin, tylenol. We're also starting the wife on the horse dewormer for prevention, plus full Rin protocol and upped Vit D.

I would skip all body temperature-depressing meds, and then sleep on a heating pad under the back/chest at night to simulate a fever (without exhausting one's own body producing the fever) as a way of enhancing immune function.

Reality says

sleep on a heating pad under the back/chest at night to simulate a fever

That is a really interesting idea.

Reality says

mell says

Massive headache, body aches, chills and sweats, fever, dry cough which can turn productive, mild chest congestion, slightly runny nose, no appetite, mild nausea and indigestion. Feels pretty much like a flu. But I'm on day 4 now and think I should be done with it completely by end of the week. Medications taken: horse dewormer, ibuprofen, aspirin, tylenol. We're also starting the wife on the horse dewormer for prevention, plus full Rin protocol and upped Vit D.

I would skip all body temperature-depressing meds, and then sleep on a heating pad under the back/chest at night to simulate a fever (without exhausting one's own body producing the fever) as a way of enhancing immune function.

That's a good suggestion for those that don't react with enough fever but I usually do and there's a trade-off between being completely incapacitated due to fever and being able to take care of an infant, a 10yr old and a wife ;) Also NyQuil at night helps others sleep if you don't cough too much, as long as you let it flow during the day and get a good productive cough out. I also usually take half of all indicated dosages, it's enough for me despite being very tall and thus well over 200lbs.