patrick.net

https://www.theepochtimes.com/covid-19-outbreak-reported-on-us-cruise-ship-despite-fully-vaccinated-passengers_4139853.html?source=patrick.net

COVID-19 Outbreak Reported on US Cruise Ship Despite Fully Vaccinated Passengers
By Jack Phillips December 5, 2021

At least 10 cases of COVID-19 have been reported on a Norwegian Cruise Line ship disembarking in New Orleans, officials said.

All of the crew members and passengers taking part in the cruise have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19, according to the Louisiana Department of Health. The agency didn’t reveal the conditions of those who were infected with the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus.

“Governor John Bel Edwards, the Louisiana Department of Health, the City of New Orleans, and the Port of New Orleans are aware and working closely with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to initiate existing COVID-19 agreements and protocols with the cruise line,” the Louisiana Department of Health said in a statement.

The Norwegian Breakaway cruise ship had left New Orleans on Nov. 28, making stops in Mexico, Honduras, and Belize. The ship was set to reach New Orleans on Dec. 5, according to its itinerary. Authorities with the department of health stated that more than 3,200 people were on board the ship.

Norwegian Cruise Lines “has been adhering to appropriate quarantine and isolation protocols as new cases and exposures have been identified aboard this vessel,” according to the statement.

Everyone on board will be tested for COVID-19 before leaving and will be provided with post-exposure and quarantine public health guidance by the CDC. Those who test positive for COVID-19 will either travel to their homes or self-isolate according to CDC guidelines, the health agency stated.

Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings didn’t respond to a request for comment by press time.

“We take this matter extremely seriously and will continue to work closely with the CDC, the office of Governor John Bel Edwards, the Louisiana Department of Health as well as the city and port of New Orleans,” Norwegian Cruise Line said in a statement to media outlets.

The “identified cases onboard are asymptomatic,” a spokesperson for Norwegian Cruise Line told Business Insider on Dec. 5.

“In addition to requiring that 100 percent of guests and crew are fully vaccinated, per the company’s comprehensive health and safety protocols, we have implemented quarantine, isolation, and contact tracing procedures for identified cases,” the spokesperson said. ...

In March 2020, the CDC issued a no-sail order that ended in June 2021 as cruise ships started to again depart U.S. ports with more COVID-19-related restrictions. Norwegian Cruise Line’s website states that all passengers and crew workers have to be vaccinated for COVID-19 at least two weeks before departure.

What do you guys make of the analytics in this article by NPR?

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate?source=patrick.net

porkchopexpress says

What do you guys make of the analytics in this article by NPR?

Do you trust any US news organization to actually care about being factually correct? Just ignore them. It's a waste of time to listen to people who have shown over and over and over again they are willing to lie blatantly to the public. The article is bullshit until demonstrated otherwise.

porkchopexpress says

What do you guys make of the analytics in this article by NPR?

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate?source=patrick.net

The article uses percentage differences, and not raw numbers. Percent differences is always a flag for propogandists trying to hide minute differences.
They also do not mention how many of the deaths are vaxxed people.

porkchopexpress says

What do you guys make of the analytics in this article by NPR?

N fucking PR??? HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa! Cough, spit!

porkchopexpress says

analytics in this article by NPR?

NPR is STILL PUSHING THE STORY that Russian hookers peed on Trump.

porkchopexpress says

What do you guys make of the analytics in this article by NPR?

@porkchopexpress NPR is run by Bill Gates.

https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php?source=patrick.net

If you squint as you read the story, you’ll notice that every quoted expert is connected to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which helps fund the project. And if you’re really paying attention, you’ll also see the editor’s note at the end of the story, which reveals that NPR itself receives funding from Gates.

NPR’s funding from Gates “was not a factor in why or how we did the story,” reporter Pam Fessler says, adding that her reporting went beyond the voices quoted in her article. The story, nevertheless, is one of hundreds NPR has reported about the Gates Foundation or the work it funds, including myriad favorable pieces written from the perspective of Gates or its grantees.

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/not-in-the-news-covid-epidemiology?source=patrick.net

It is negligent to ignore the vaccinated as a source of transmission when deciding about public health control measures.
Robert W Malone MD, MS

... The article highlights that high COVID-19 vaccination rates have not reduced transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in populations by reducing the number of possible sources for transmission and thereby reduced the burden of COVID-19 disease. Recent data indicates that the epidemiological relevance of COVID-19 vaccinated individuals as a source of transmission is increasing, as there are fewer unvaccinated and more people are naturally immune.

Another paper out of the UK shows that fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral loads similar to the unvaccinated, and that fully vaccinated individuals can efficiently transmit infection in household settings. ...

In yet another report by the Robert Koch Institute, it was shown that In Germany, the rate of symptomatic COVID-19 cases among the fully vaccinated (“breakthrough infections”, reported weekly since 21, July 2021) was 16.9% at that time among patients of 60 years and older. This proportion has increased weekly and was 58.9% on October 27, 2021. This provides clear evidence of the increasing relevance of the fully vaccinated as a possible source of transmission (3).

In the UK, a similar situation shows among citizens of 60 years or older, the fully vaccinated accounted for 89.7% of the SARS-CoV-2 cases versus 3.4% among the unvaccinated (4).

A report out of Israel reports a nosocomial outbreak involving 16 healthcare workers, 23 exposed patients and two family members. The source was a fully vaccinated COVID-19 patient. The vaccination rate was 96.2% among all 248 exposed individuals (151 healthcare workers and 97 patients). Our of the 248 people, fourteen fully vaccinated patients became severely ill or died, and two unvaccinated patients developed mild disease (5).

Not one of the vaccines worked on my wife and our friends/family that are vaccinated. None. We've been texting all day. 8 people fully vaccinated have positive PCR tests this week. Multiple unvaccinated kids got it, so it was a legit mini-outbreak amongst friends and family. The vaccines were 0% effective in this sample.

If you're vaccinated, don't go near the vulnerable people thinking they or you are protected. You are 100% not. The symptoms across all of us are the same, vaccinated or not. It's likely just a saline solution in most of the doses. I get breakthrough of virus on a vaccine, but 8 confirmed vaccinated people, all 8 have covid. That's not a vaccine regardless of the sample size.

WookieMan says

Not one of the vaccines worked on my wife and our friends/family that are vaccinated. None. We've been texting all day. 8 people fully vaccinated have positive PCR tests this week. Multiple unvaccinated kids got it, so it was a legit mini-outbreak amongst friends and family. The vaccines were 0% effective in this sample.

If you're vaccinated, don't go near the vulnerable people thinking they or you are protected. You are 100% not. The symptoms across all of us are the same, vaccinated or not. It's likely just a saline solution in most of the doses. I get breakthrough of virus on a vaccine, but 8 confirmed vaccinated people, all 8 have covid. That's not a vaccine regardless of the sample size.

Have you been on any supplements like Quercetin?

My youngest son just tested positive for Covid last week. This is his 2nd infection...1st was when we all got Covid in Dec 2020.

porkchopexpress says

Have you been on any supplements like Quercetin?

My youngest son just tested positive for Covid last week. This is his 2nd infection...1st was when we all got Covid in Dec 2020.

No. I've known a ton of people within 5 years my age that got it. Probably 50 now, maybe more. Only one has gotten ill enough to visit a doc and he's a pussy.

Am I sick, sure. It's like a 2-3 on a 10 scale. My biggest issues is the smell and taste. I thought when I'd get this I'd still be able to smell something burning, like a fire or pan. I literally smell nothing. Zilch. 2nd is the fatigue. I have not been this tired in a long time. Otherwise I feel fine. Knees have aches and nasal issues are super easy to control with spray. I'll likely work out tomorrow for the first time in a while.

By the way, the graph below posted by has been debunked. The rise in uncategorized deaths is normal every year until the CDC can categorize them. He even admitted the error. It was an honest error because he didn't know that this lag and rise is what happens every year.

porkchopexpress says

By the way, the graph below posted by has been debunked. The rise in uncategorized deaths is normal every year until the CDC can categorize them.

Interesting to know.

Common mistakes, perhaps we should make a log of what normally happens, so people can avoid them.

It's going to be fun watching the vaxxed athletes collapsing at the Winter Olympics. Skiers skidding off of cliffs, bobsledders dragged by their sleds, skaters piling into the ice.

Ceffer says

It's going to be fun watching the vaxxed athletes collapsing at the Winter Olympics. Skiers skidding off of cliffs, bobsledders dragged by their sleds, skaters piling into the ice.

Do you really believe that will happen?

I think that they just produced a bad product, and we are inching toward a complete distrust of authority. The people running this US (and the west in general) are useful idiots - intended to discredit both a free market system which we are SUPPOSEDLY in, but aren't in, and to discredit a democratic/republic system which again, we are supposedly in, but aren't.

We've been subverted by showing how easy it is to place incompetents into power but we're going to be deceived in how these incompetents were placed into power. The expectation is that we will believe we actually elected representatives therefore we need "experts" to make the decisions, when in reality, 1/2 the people in power, perhaps more, were never elected. I don't even believe 1/2 the people placed into positions of authority in corporations were picked due to their competence, but rather the BOD insisted that they were, and we don't know who the BOD takes orders from.

I have great faith in the "dumb populace". It's just a genetic algorithm. When I can get the rare glimpse of the true majority and I disagree with them, 99% of the time, they're right and I'm wrong.

This is not a democracy or a republic or a free market. I'm certain that the Federal Reserve directly pumps money into the stock market, to sink real competitors.

WookieMan says

Not one of the vaccines worked on my wife and our friends/family that are vaccinated.

In spite of what President Potato Head and the CDC Director (!) said, the vaccines do not prevent transmission. It is medical malpractice to not be out in the open about this. And vaccine passports and other discriminatory policies directed towards the unvaccinated presumably to reduce the spread of the virus have no validity. Clearly a red flag pointing out the sheer incompetence of "leaders" or something more sinister.

The best the gene therapies do is give a transient rise in narrowly specific antibodies, which are claimed to prevent hospitalization and serious illness for some period of time. But if you are healthy to start, this benefit is trivial and uneeded. And the possibility of adverse events in those whose immune system is protective without gene therapy vaccination, and the hijacking of a healthy immune system and the creation of what is essentially vaccine dependancy - criminal.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

the vaccines do not prevent transmission

It's not even about transmission to other people, that's been known. They literally did not even work on anyone in our groups that had spreading events. They were all sick to some degree or another vaccinated or not. We are talking 0% efficacy in a small group. That goes against everything being spit out by our government and media. There was no reduction in symptoms for those that got covid prior to being vaccinated. At least 3 people had covid before.

Frankly I don't know how this stuff is even EUA at this point. No known longer term effects and none of the vaccines work. 100% breakthrough cases is not a working vaccine.

WookieMan says

I don't know how this stuff is even EUA at this point. No known longer term effects and none of the vaccines work.

As Karl Rove said about other issues:
"....and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

That is how they roll now.

170 hospital staff went to a Christmas party. Then 68 tested positive for COVID-19.

https://news.yahoo.com/170-hospital-staff-went-christmas-141601261.html?source=patrick.net

MADRID — Spain’s prime minister on Monday urged people to “remain prudent” about COVID-19 over the holidays, as Christmas festivities at one Spanish hospital are suspected of infecting dozens of staff.
...
The staff took antigen tests before the event and were negative, which is making authorities question whether the dinner gathering was the cause of the outbreak, Spanish private news agency Europa Press reported.

The infected staff were all fully vaccinated and are showing no symptoms, Europa Press said, citing unidentified hospital sources.

A critical thinker might start wondering whether these tests are even accurate.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/hey-remember-when-the-fdas-top-vaccine?source=patrick.net

Hey, remember when the FDA's top vaccine regulator said even a moderately effective Covid shot could produce herd immunity if 70 percent of people received it?
I'll take "Failed Predictions" for $200, Mayim! ...

This might be a good time to remind you that much of Western Europe hit Marks’s magic number months ago. In countries like Britain, 70 percent (okay, 69.3!) of people - not adults, the entire population - is fully vaccinated. And about 30 percent of Britons have now received a third dose.

So how come a vaccine that was supposedly 95 percent effective at preventing infection (and supposedly even better at stopping severe disease) in clinical trials has completely failed to stop the epidemic?

porkchopexpress says

What do you guys make of the analytics in this article by NPR?

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate?source=patrick.net

@porkchopexpress

It's fraud by NPR.

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/npr-proves-once-again-critical-thinking?source=patrick.net

If you analyze using more “realistic” numbers, their claim is even more preposterous
Now, can we use REAL numbers? The best numbers for lives saved are always in the DB-RCT trials. We have one for Pfizer which showed that the vaccine saved a net total of 1 life for ever 22,000 fully vaccinated people. There were two placebo COVID deaths, and only one COVID death in the vaccinated group: a 50% reduction in death rate.

Let’s see how our numbers work out now with this more reasonable assumption (which again, I’m not conceding is correct).

I’m going to just round the numbers to make the math easier. 100 dead in the Trump group and a more realistic 50% effective death reduction vax. That means that we would have started with 100/.75=133 people dead with no vaccine. So if we had (optimistically) a 75% vaccination rate, then 133*.75=100 people of which only 50 would die plus the 33 who didn’t get vaxed and die. So 83 people would die. So 100/83=1.2 or a 20% better outcome for the Biden group.

Again, that’s even worse (as we knew it would be). It’s not even close to the factor of 3 claimed.

In short, you can’t make the math work here.

And then there is the confounding about the dates chosen, and the different demographics. Where is the analysis of that? It doesn’t exist. Just handwaving.

https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/the-vaccines-dont-reduce-transmission?source=patrick.net

The Vaccines Don't Reduce Transmission
Once more, very briefly, on an obvious and crucial point.

eugyppius
9 hr ago

It’s an old point, but as vaccine mandates are proposed across the world, it bears repeating: It is highly doubtful that the vaccines do anything to reduce transmission at all.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/yet-another-reason-vaccines-dont?source=patrick.net

Yet another reason vaccines don’t have a prayer of ending Covid
SARS-Cov-2 has animal hosts (which probably makes it a rare case of reverse zoonotic transmission, yay! Thanks Bat Lady.)

Alex Berenson
9 hr ago

From a reader. Also, check out those hospital statistics from Wales. Even among people under 60, the vaccinated are three in five of inpatients (and nine in ten of inpatients over 60). The shots are doing a tremendous job at stopping severe disease!

https://zeromandatoryvaxx.com/2021/lancet-vaccine-does-not-work-at-all/

https://www.globalresearch.ca/spike-protein-increases-heart-attacks-destroys-immune-%e2%80%8bsystem/5763408?source=patrick.net

Karloff says

A critical thinker might start wondering whether these tests are even accurate.

“Faith in Quick Test Leads to Epidemic That Wasnʼt”
From 2007. This non-event likely showed them how useful PCR’s unreliability might be.

““You’re in a little bit of no man’s land,” with the new molecular (PCR) tests, said Dr. Mark Perkins, an infectious disease specialist and chief scientific officer at the Foundation for Innovative New Diagnostics, a nonprofit foundation supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. “All bets are off on exact performance.”
Of course, that leads to the question of why rely on them at all. “At face value, obviously they shouldn’t be doing it,” Dr. Perl said. But, she said, often when answers are needed and an organism like the pertussis bacterium is finicky and hard to grow in a laboratory, “you don’t have great options.”
Waiting to see if the bacteria grow can take weeks, but the quick molecular test can be wrong.”https://www.bleadon.org.uk/media/other/24400/FaithinQuickTestLeadstoEpidemicThatWasnt-TheNewYorkTimes.pdf?source=patrick.net

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/vaccinated-english-adults-under-60?source=patrick.net

Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age
And have been for six months. This chart may seem unbelievable or impossible, but it's correct, based on weekly data from the British government.

Alex Berenson
Nov 20

The brown line represents weekly deaths from all causes of vaccinated people aged 10-59, per 100,000 people.

The blue line represents weekly deaths from all causes of unvaccinated people per 100,000 in the same age range.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/covid-nw-fully-vaccinated-oregon-residents-died-half-received-pfizer-vaccine/?source=patrick.net

552 Fully Vaccinated Oregon Residents Died of Wuhan Virus, Half Received Pfizer Vaccine

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/vaccine-things-that-make-you-go-hmmm/?source=patrick.net

5 that is ( F I V E ) players from the Adelaide Crows football team just went to the hospital with the same type of thing. When this is happening to five people out of a team of what 50? that is 1 out of 10 you are not going to tell me that this is rare.

— Dr. James E. Olsson (@DrJamesOlsson) December 5, 2021

Patrick says

5 that is ( F I V E ) players from the Adelaide Crows football team just went to the hospital with the same type of thing. When this is happening to five people out of a team of what 50? that is 1 out of 10 you are not going to tell me that this is rare.

Statistical anomaly otherwise we'd be commonly seeing 2 people from any team of X going to the hospital.

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/RWMaloneMD/status/1468565398526337032?source=patrick.net#m

Robert W Malone, MD
@RWMaloneMD
5h
In peer reviewed prospective observational study of 1,072,313 patients, UK group unable to tell the difference between vaccine effects and COVID-19.

Disentangling post-vaccination symptoms from early COVID-19
thelancet.com/journals/eclin…

Disentangling post-vaccination symptoms from early COVID-19
Post-vaccination symptoms per se cannot be differentiated from COVID-19 with clinical robustness, either using symptom profiles or machine-derived models. Individuals presenting with systemic...

thelancet.com

What do the vaccines and COVID have in common? Spike protein.

The big difference is that the vaccines cause the body and immune system to deal with a large quantity of Spike over a short period of time. Very different from the natural infection.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/covid-nw-massachusetts-breakthrough-cases-surge-last-week-smashing-record-high/?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net

Massachusetts Coronavirus Breakthrough Cases Surge 11,321 Last Week, Smashing Record High for the State
Boston Herald reported:

More than 11,000 fully vaccinated people in the Bay State tested positive for coronavirus last week as part of the post-Thanksgiving surge, a daily average of about 1,617 people as breakthrough infections hit a record high in the state. Sixty-one breakthrough deaths were reported.

The count of 11,321 breakthrough cases last week was a 71% spike from the tally of 6,610 breakthrough infections in the prior week.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/mass-vaccination-excess-covid-deaths/?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net

Mass Vaccination Was Supposed to Restore ‘Normalcy.’ So Why Are Excess Deaths on the Rise?
Throughout the pandemic, public health officials dangled mass injections as the only solution to end the pandemic and save lives from COVID. Now even with mass injections and some receiving two and even three shots, excess deaths are rising.

In the week ending Nov. 12, the U.K. reported 2,047 more deaths than occurred during the same period between 2015 and 2019 — heart disease and strokes appear to be behind many of the excess deaths.
In the last 13 weeks alone, about 107,700 seniors died above the normal rate, despite a 98.7% injection rate.
In Vermont, where the majority are also injected, excess deaths are the highest they’ve been since before the pandemic.
An investigation using official data from NHS and the U.K.’s Office for National Statistics (ONS) found that deaths among teenagers increased 47% since they started getting COVID-19 shots.
Deaths from COVID-19 also went up among 15- to 19-year-olds after the shots were rolled out for this age group.
Even with mass injections and some receiving two and even three shots in their arm, excess deaths are rising.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/kitten-corner-vermont/comments?source=patrick.net

https://covidreason.substack.com/p/study-vaccines-are-not-stopping-the?source=patrick.net

Study: Vaccines are NOT stopping the pandemic
ICYMI: this Harvard study notes that there is NO correlation between vaccination rates and case rates

Justin Hart

I have no idea how this paper made it past the censors but there it is! This was published 2 month ago but didn’t receive much fanfare and now we know why—it confirms what we’ve been saying for months now: the vaccines have not stopped and likely will not stop the pandemic.

Patrick says

ICYMI: this Harvard study notes that there is NO correlation between vaccination rates and case rates

Being vaccinated makes no difference. For those seeing elderly people this xmas, I'm not joking when I say be careful. What I'm going through now sucks, but I'm 100% functional just tired as fuck. I could see how a 70+ year old, out of shape could get fucked over by this. The smell sucks, but the fatigue is nothing I've ever felt before.

I quit coffee years ago, but I think I'm going back to it temporarily tomorrow until I get better. Or find a buddy with some cocaine. Not a joke. It's been a good 5 days of sleeping 16-18 hours a day. Up for 2-3 and then down. I'll sit at the computer and dose off and I'm out for 2-3 hours. It's fucked up. I have to set alarms for kids stuff as the wife is out of town.

I don't feel bad though physically. Just sleeping, yet I don't feel rested at all. It's weird.

WookieMan says

I'll sit at the computer and dose off and I'm out for 2-3 hours. It's fucked up. I have to set alarms for kids stuff as the wife is out of town.

Don't resist the sleep.

WookieMan says

Patrick says

ICYMI: this Harvard study notes that there is NO correlation between vaccination rates and case rates

Being vaccinated makes no difference. For those seeing elderly people this xmas, I'm not joking when I say be careful. What I'm going through now sucks, but I'm 100% functional just tired as fuck. I could see how a 70+ year old, out of shape could get fucked over by this. The smell sucks, but the fatigue is nothing I've ever felt before.

I quit coffee years ago, but I think I'm going back to it temporarily tomorrow until I get better. Or find a buddy with some cocaine. Not a joke. It's been a good 5 days of sleeping 16-18 hours a day. Up for 2-3 and then down. I'll sit at the computer and dose off and I'm out for 2-3 hours. It's fucked up. I have to set alarms for kids stuff as the wife is out of town.

I don't feel bad though physically. Just sleeping, yet...

Are you taking anything to try and fight it?

WineHorror1 says

Are you taking anything to try and fight it?

Just standard supplements. Upped D3 to 5k IU. Doubled my zinc intake. And just some regular daily vitamins. Coffee makes me too jumpy for the fatigue. The cocaine thing was a joke even though I said it wasn't. I've never taken it in my life and not about to start now. I do think it would help or some speed, lol. My sarcasm game is all over the place sometimes.

All the people I know that have gotten it, fatigue was the symptom that hit them hardest for my age group. Just no energy. I feel mostly fine though. It's weird. I'm able to do what ever I want. Have even worked out. Just start falling asleep on my feet after 2-4 hours of activity. Maybe not the healthiest, but I have lost 8lbs this week since I'm sleeping so much. About 5-6lbs from my year end goal weight after fracturing my heel. Down about 45 since January. About 15 away from optimal body weight for my height.

The loss of smell/taste is crazy. I don't want to eat because I'm like what's the damn point? I'm not enjoying it. I'm snacking on a few healthy things I normally wouldn't because I can't taste it. So still getting food nutrition. Good idea for a weight loss pill honestly. A way to cut smell and taste if you could. For me it would work. I think it could work for a lot of people.

The only thing I feel somewhat bad about is we have not quarantined. Kids are going to sports/school. Wife is about to go to a xmas party with 2k people. I think we're going to see a massive increase in cases over the next 3-4 weeks. The vaccinated think they're safe, they're not.