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NuttBoxer says

Read the article I posted, NGO's have poured at least a million into Kazakhstan in the past year.

1 M is not much, I d say. Kazakhstan is not dirt poor and this money will allow you to buy off a very minimal number of people.
Also ZH is slipping in quality lately.
I dont see why collective West has to mess with a friendly regime unless they are trying to prevent someone else taking over.

If the uprising results in taking away criminal enterprise cash flows from the insane Euro Globalists and crooked American politician usual suspects, then I would have to consider Russia and Putin the lesser of two evils to our citizenry.

We are far more in danger from our own governments and so-called health agencies being funded from these sources than we are from Russia keeping NATO out of its former USSR territories.

Bd6r says

1 M is not much, I d say. Kazakhstan is not dirt poor and this money will allow you to buy off a very minimal number of people.

Can you point to any other money be poured into the country? One million is a lot more than zero.

Bd6r says

Also ZH is slipping in quality lately.

I've never been a baby with the bathwater person, it's usually an excuse not to re-examine my own bias's. But I frequent a number of independent news sits, and Zerohedge is the most consistently referenced, I think mostly because they focus on what's relevant.

Bd6r says

I dont see why collective West has to mess with a friendly regime unless they are trying to prevent someone else taking over.

By that logic the Tzar should still be in power. Why do bankers do anything they do? Certainly not for peace, nor for stability.

The CIA gambit here was. With the event coinciding with the lead up to the J6 anniversary, the Establishment who all live squarely in Fantasy land at this point.
Was betting the Kazakhstan coup/revolt/civil upheaval was going to be the catalyst to inspire the real American insurrection, that the J6 committee and the Democrats so desperately need at this point.

But Putin Bitch Slapped the stupid fuckers and destroyed their plans, and have exposed Biden and his Crackhead Son AGAIN! As the culprits of staging a coup.

They even followed it up with another Glowie parade.

Commies and Scumbags in Washington be like... "Why wontchu do, like we say you be doing, all the damn time?"

Answer: Because Liberals are fucking Retarded, have no critical thinking skills, and live in fucking LaLa Land!

NuttBoxer says

By that logic the Tzar should still be in power.

He was at war with Germans. Lenin was sent to Russia via Germany etc.
NuttBoxer says

Can you point to any other money be poured into the country? One million is a lot more than zero.

I don't think we can know, but Nazarbayev's daughter personally has more than a thousand of such millions. She now will be off earning easy money. Million is not that much money these days, especially compared to what N clan owns.

A more interesting tidbit of information is that there is a Chinese and American cosponsored virology research institute in kazakhstan, and it supposedly also works on coronaviruses. It was not looted, unlike many buildings near it. A coincidence?

Bd6r says

there is a Chinese and American cosponsored virology research institute in kazakhstan

What happens in Kazakhstan, doesn't stay in Kazakhstan any more?

What delectable democidal and genocidal treats did this lab house?

Bd6r says

He was at war with Germans. Lenin was sent to Russia via Germany etc.

He wasn't at war at all. That was some sneaky shit those bankers pulled, many American. And it's bankers again this go around. America always pretends to be worried about China/Russia, yet Lockhead is building their planes, and US Steel their tanks. The only side the matters is the people's side, and what happened here, wasn't for the people.

NuttBoxer says

He wasn't at war at all.

WW1 is not a conspiracy, it really happened

Bd6r says

WW1 is not a conspiracy, it really happened

Wasn't it a conspiracy AND it happened?

https://tactical-wisdom.com/2022/01/08/what-we-can-learn-kazakhstan/?source=patrick.net

Bd6r says

WW1 is not a conspiracy, it really happened

WWI was not responsible for the Tsar's murder. It was the banker(mis-labled Bolshevik) revolution.

NuttBoxer says

WWI was not responsible for the Tsar's murder. It was the banker(mis-labled Bolshevik) revolution

I don't see why banksters needed to kill Tsar after he was deposed and out of power. Might have been the usual excess of a violent revolution.

They were no doubt aware of Machiavelli's advice to kill every last member of the former ruler's family, or they will eventually be back to take revenge.

Bd6r says

NuttBoxer says

WWI was not responsible for the Tsar's murder. It was the banker(mis-labled Bolshevik) revolution

I don't see why banksters needed to kill Tsar after he was deposed and out of power. Might have been the usual excess of a violent revolution.

Because banksters need to kill all those in power and all non banister intellectuals so they can take over and spread communism easily.

Ceffer says

Wasn't it a conspiracy AND it happened?

Yes! Read about the Lusitania and JP Morgan.

Bd6r says

I don't see why banksters needed to kill Tsar after he was deposed and out of power. Might have been the usual excess of a violent revolution.

An unintended consequence of the deployed psychopaths? The investors didn't want them killed. No Royals were supposed to get hurt in the making of the movie. Bad Kommies for killing a bloodline, and Bad Hitler for the Holocaust. Hitler was only supposed to kill all the Slavs.

Just can't make a proper leash for your pet psychos?

Bd6r says

I don't see why banksters needed to kill Tsar after he was deposed and out of power. Might have been the usual excess of a violent revolution.

The Tsar was a huge threat to central bankers. He didn't have a central bank in Russia, and had the country running self-sufficiently, and most importantly debt-free.

Never underestimate the sociopathic capabilities of bankers.

Kazakhstan updates:

1. Russian troops were not deployed in Western Kazakhstan, which is where the riots/uprising started. Perhaps because Western Kazakhstan is rich in oil and gas, and these are controlled by China?
2. China foreign minister noted to Kazakhstan and Russia that China is against "any separatism and border changes in Kazakhstan".
3. Turkish govt organizes a meeting of turkoman states about situation in Kazakhstan.
4. Nazarbayev has disappeared.
5. Kazakh Pres said (after meeting with Chinese) that mission of Russian troops has been accomplished and they will be withdrawn in a few days.
6. Russian extremist Girkin, supposedly working for GRU, and one who started war in Ukraine in 2014, says that "Russia should occupy North of Kazakhstan and leave the rest independent as a buffer between Russia and China". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH8wEseohkw&t=1611s&source=patrick.net

Enjoy...

Maybe Russia, China and Turkey will start lobbing missiles at each other first in Khaz. Duck, IHLlary, Biden, Obama, Soros NGOs and Khazarian Mafia, deys is starting to shoot at each other.

Bd6r says

Kazakhstan updates:

1. Russian troops were not deployed in Western Kazakhstan, which is where the riots/uprising started. Perhaps because Western Kazakhstan is rich in oil and gas, and these are controlled by China?
2. China foreign minister noted to Kazakhstan and Russia that China is against "any separatism and border changes in Kazakhstan".
3. Turkish govt organizes a meeting of turkoman states about situation in Kazakhstan.
4. Nazarbayev has disappeared.
5. Kazakh Pres said (after meeting with Chinese) that mission of Russian troops has been accomplished and they will be withdrawn in a few days.
6. Russian extremist Girkin, supposedly working for GRU, and one who started war in Ukraine in 2014, says that "Russia should occupy North of Kazakhstan and leave the rest independent as a buffer between Russia and China".

This is what having a senile compromised weak fuck in the WH brings in. So much better than "unpredictable" predecessor, isn't it?

Are Russian troops only in Khaz for two weeks to flatten the color revolution curve LOL? It does seem temporarily that Russia and China are on the same page. I'm still not clear if the color revolution was a 'reverse false flag color revolution' to oust N decisively. NATO and the Globalists are not the friends of the people of USA, even if they are the friends of Biden et. alia.

Bd6r says

I don't see why banksters needed to kill Tsar after he was deposed and out of power. Might have been the usual excess of a violent revolution.

Couldn't allow any heir to survive and later claim right to any bank account that the Tsar might have had in the banks.

AmericanKulak says

Let's review the theories:

#5 N and N's family and friends have hundreds of billions of dollar parked in foreign banks. T wants his own men to replace N's men in farming K-stan. So the animal farm of K-stan was reset, N and his family and friends are arrested and liquidated, banks get to keep their money (dead men can not withdraw money), and T gets to farm K-stan with his own men. The whole process retarts.

Who is T?

Tokayev, the new president of K-stan, who seems to be the beneficiary after casting off his former mentor.

Ceffer says

It does seem temporarily that Russia and China are on the same page

Or Russia does what Chinese ordered them.

Reality says

#5 N and N's family and friends have hundreds of billions of dollar parked in foreign banks. T wants his own men to replace N's men in farming K-stan. So the animal farm of K-stan was reset, N and his family and friends are arrested and liquidated, banks get to keep their deposits, and T gets to farm K-stan with his own men. The whole process retarts.

Plausible. N has disappeared - last time he was seen on Dec 26 or 28 talking to Putin. T replaced 2 top figures in security forces and gov't who were N's men.

Reality says

Couldn't allow any heir to survive and later claim right to any bank account that the Tsar might have had in the banks.

Grand Duke Kirill survived and thus could claim everything (and was claiming everything). I have not looked deeply into this, but vengeance of Lenin and Co + fear that Whites are energized if Tsar is alive might have caused executions. Then again Tsar's cousin was on British throne and he refused to let Tsar and his family into England which is very suspicious

N's daughter is a Swiss citizen perched in Switzerland at the center of the Globalist spider web? It seems Switzerland has several designations of residents and citizens depending on how the crooked money is parked and utilized. Instead of a PO Box, she is buying castles.

I don't think her purloined billions are going anywhere, as long as she pays taxation to the GlobalistFucks. However, without Khaz to despoil, maybe her liquidity is in question.

Again, I think that anything that preserves Globalist enterprises that are funding the destruction of USA and our freedoms is definitely the worse of evils for USA citizens.

Kirill only became "Grand Duke" long after the Tsar family died. Kirill had to trace back four generations to claim relation to Nicolas 2nd (Kirill's grand father being a son of Alexander II, not Alexnader III). So there was near-zero chance Nick would have told him where the money were parked.

Rumor is that N is worth a hundred billion, and that he is in Kazakhstan. I am sure that they are negotiating a large donation which would let him out of Kazakhstan and let him live out his days in Switzerland or Saudi Arabia.

On another note, I watched yesterday a surprisingly even-handed report about Kazakhstan from Russian media. They seem to agree with #5 suggestion by @Reality.

I don't think Swiss banksters give two shits about Swiss citizens, even native-born ones, never mind immigrated. After all, the banksters invited invasion by the French Army and Napoleon in order to get out of having to pay back their depositors in both Switzerland and Northern Italy (Genoa and Venice).

If anything, N's daughter buying castles in Switzerland might be pissing off the old money.

The Swiss have never been neutral, they have been co-conspirators with the world psychopaths who preserve their gig. Being 'neutral' to them means acting through proxies and allowing investment cartels funding wars fought elsewhere, but benefitting them. Being the lily pad of financial con artists, dictators and terrorists plundering their countries is part of their traditional scene. They are the epicenter of the Fourth Reich and the Globalist terror we are presently experiencing. Switzerland hosts the defacto headquarters of the CIA (a Globalist corporate entity and NOT of the United States, except as a kind of fair weather consultant assigning USA to some lower echelons) and many other intelligence agencies. The Nazis were ratlined through Switzerland after WWII and re-established in new nests throughout the West, Europe and South America.

Traditionally, they were land pirates robbing the surrounding countries then retreating back through their mountain passes. The languages of Switzerland aren't a form of benign catholicism, these are the languages of the countries they have traditionally despoiled.

The Swiss banks directed the robbing of European wealth during WWII through the Nazis, and if enough people were dead in the chaos of war, their insurance companies didn't have to pay claims and their banks got to keep the deposits of the dead. Ever since the surviving Templars fled Philip the Fair into Switzerland and Scotland toting their barges of loot, they probably have more purloined treasure in mountain redoubts than anywhere else on earth.

Reality says

Kirill had to trace back four generations to claim relation to Nicolas 2nd (Kirill's grand father being a son of Alexander II, not Alexnader III).

Wikipedia seems to have him as first cousin to the Tsar:

Grand Duke Kirill Vladimirovich of Russia (Russian: Кирилл Владимирович Романов; Kirill Vladimirovich Romanov; 12 October [O.S. 30 September] 1876 – 12 October 1938) was a son of Grand Duke Vladimir Alexandrovich of Russia, a grandson of Emperor Alexander II and a first cousin of Nicholas II, Russia's last tsar.

I think something was lost in translation in that Wikipedia entry. The correct term should be "first-cousin twice-removed" or "second-cousin once-removed." Kirill's grandfather was a son of Nicholas' grandfather (Alexander II), so Kirill's grandfather would be uncle to Nicholas II's father (Alexander III), that makes Kirill's father first cousin to Nicholas II's father (Alexander III). That makes Kirill second-cousin (or "first-cousin once-removed") to Alexander III . . . in turn a "first cousin twice-removed" or "second cousin once-removed") to Alexander III's son Nicholas II.

In any case, the banksters' agents (the Reds) did quite a thorough job in wiping out everyone in the final three generations of the Romanov main line, resulting in the closest surviving cadet branch had to trace back to Alexander II.

Reality says

I think something was lost in translation in that Wikipedia entry. The correct term should be "first-cousin twice-removed" or "second-cousin once-removed." Kirill's grandfather was a son of Nicholas' grandfather (Alexander II), so Kirill's grandfather would be uncle to Nicholas II's father (Alexander III), that makes Kirill's father first cousin to Nicholas II's father (Alexander III). That makes Kirill second-cousin (or "first-cousin once-removed") to Alexander III . . . in turn a "first cousin twice-removed" or "second cousin once-removed") to Alexander III's son Nicholas II.

In any case, the banksters' agents (the Reds) did quite a thorough job in wiping out everyone in the final three generations of the Romanov main line, resulting in the closest surviving cadet branch had to trace back to Alexander II.

One sister of Nicholas II survived, and mother as well (looked up Romanov family tree).

Putin went on TV and declared the revolt an attempted color revolution by foreign agents and terrorists, not a protest against gas prices, similar to 2014 in Ukraine. He declined to specify where these came from, but said color revolutions will no longer be tolerated in former soviet states. He and T are best buds now. Maybe Western aligned N was trying to oust nominal successor T and turn Khaz into another Soros state decisively.

Ceffer says

Putin went on TV and declared the revolt an attempted color revolution by foreign agents and terrorists, not a protest against gas prices, similar to 2014 in Ukraine. He declined to specify where these came from, but said color revolutions will no longer be tolerated in former soviet states. He and T are best buds now. Maybe Western aligned N was trying to oust nominal successor T and turn Khaz into another Soros state decisively.

Latest new from Russian and Islamist interwebs: Putin is removing his troops from Kazakhstan in a few days by order of Chinese. Specifically, T said that most Russians will get out in 2 days. He does not have enough power to demand or say that unilaterally - someone is telling him what to do, and that someone is likely the Chinese.

So, if we want to be completely conspiratorial, Chinese fostered an uprising either themselves or via Russians, and removed a relatively pro-western N with the hands of Russians. Now the oil industry in Kazakhstan will belong to Chinese, who don't have much oil themselves. Conveniently, oil in Kazakhstan is directly by China, so any Western sanctions will not work.

So, false flag color revolution is still on the table? Gave the pretense for Russia to move in and clean out the Western interests? I guess if Putin isn't saying who it is, he isn't wagging a finger at Soros or the West.

Bd6r says

Ceffer says

Putin went on TV and declared the revolt an attempted color revolution by foreign agents and terrorists, not a protest against gas prices, similar to 2014 in Ukraine. He declined to specify where these came from, but said color revolutions will no longer be tolerated in former soviet states. He and T are best buds now. Maybe Western aligned N was trying to oust nominal successor T and turn Khaz into another Soros state decisively.

Latest new from Russian and Islamist interwebs: Putin is removing his troops from Kazakhstan in a few days by order of Chinese. Specifically, T said that most Russians will get out in 2 days. He does not have enough power to demand or say that unilaterally - someone is telling him what to do, and that someone is likely the Chinese.

So, if we want to be completely conspiratorial, Chinese fostered an uprising either themselves or via Russians, and rem...

Yeah, sounds about right. They know Xi Den won't stop them or do things in Ukraine or Syria to be a prick in response.

If I was POTUS, I'd have State go out and talk about negotiations to give Taiwan and Ukraine some nice new things.

Having a vassal state rich in oil and uranium next to China will make China much more powerful. Meanwhile, Brandon will hire more transgendered generals who can shout pronouns at enemy.

I read a Japanese anti-utopia 30 yrs ago about a State where army was running away from battlefields with Generals running the fastest. Can't remember name of the novel now but it seems collective west is now living in that dystopian world.

"I can't die on the battlefield. I'm owed a post-retirement 2nd career at Lockheed getting my proteges to buy overpriced equipment and water down the RFP standards."