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Thread For Exposing Blatant Propaganda


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2022 Mar 11, 9:40am   14,130 views  204 comments

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https://spectatorworld.com/topic/two-wars-ukraine-propaganda-social-media/?source=patrick.net


Ukraine and the war for your mind
The conflict on the ground isn’t the only one — there’s plenty of propaganda afoot too

March 11, 2022

Deterrence works. Russia’s nukes are the only thing keeping the US from full-out war in Ukraine just six months after retreating from Afghanistan. The unprecedented propaganda effort by Ukraine and its helpers in the American mass media to drag the US and NATO directly into the fight has failed — so far. But the struggle — the one for your mind space — is not over.

To understand what follows, you have to wipe away a lot of bull being slung your way. Insanity is not the only explanation for Putin’s actions of the past few weeks. From a Russian standpoint, he is carrying out a rational political-military strategy in Ukraine, seizing Russian-speaking territory such as Donbas, demilitarizing eastern Ukraine by force, and most of all creating a physical buffer zone between his country’s southern border and NATO. That zone may end at the Dnieper River with a loop around Odessa, or it may end at the Polish border, depending on how smoothly things go on the ground and on what level of “back away” message Putin wishes to send NATO.

It’s unlikely that Putin is making the first moves toward some greater conquest. All the bad takes saying “if we don’t stop Putin now, he’ll invade Moldova/Estonia/Poland/all Europe just like Hitler” ignores that the German military in World War Two had some 18 million men under arms. The Russian army today has 1.3 million, the best of which are going to be in Ukraine for a while.

Every war has its “is the juice worth the squeeze” question. Is what you can realistically hope to achieve worth the cost of getting it? For Putin, that means solving his border problem at the cost of maybe a few thousand men and another dollop of weak sanctions. He understood the needs of Europe meant sanctions would never harm sales of the fossil fuels which make up most Russian exports. But nyet to Paypal for you tovarishch! Putin could also look to history and see how decades of sanctions have not changed much in Cuba, Venezuela, Iraq, Iran and North Korea.

Putin most importantly also knew NATO would not fight him on the ground for fear of starting a nuclear war. That is exactly what nukes are for — and is the history of the Cold War in a sentence. Having nukes allows a country to do certain things any way it wants because its actions stay below the threshold of risking atomic war. This is why the US could destroy Gaddafi and Saddam (no nukes) and why the US will never attack North Korea (nukes). Under US pressure, Ukraine in 1994 relinquished the nukes it inherited from the former Soviet Union, enabling the invasion here in 2022.

Being a nuclear superpower makes things easier; the US can fight all over Central America and the Middle East, and Russia in the ’Stans, Crimea and now Ukraine, and none of that is important enough for the other side to consider using nukes to stop it. It is not like America does not know how to step away from a fight which isn’t ours: Crimea, Chechnya, Rwanda, Hungary ’56, Czechoslovakia ’68, initially Afghanistan ’79, even to a certain extent in Syria 2016. Putin knows that. Biden knows that. NATO knows that. Ukraine, however, still thinks it can change the game.

Ukraine knew on Day One it didn’t have enough men or weapons to defeat the Russians. Its only hope to remain a unified nation (it is easy to imagine a divided Ukraine, Western Zone and Russian Eastern Zone) is outside help. A no-fly zone, some airstrikes to blunt Russian advances. Maybe some of those Polish/NATO pilots planning to ferry F-16s to Ukraine stay to fly them in combat? Something, anything.

That’s why America is being blitzed with Ukrainian propaganda, and your brother-in-law is ready to head to Europe with his never-cleaned hunting rifle. The goal is to change public opinion such that a weak guy like Joe Biden starts to doubt himself. The goal is get Biden to take that Pentagon meeting laying out options for some limited bombing, or to listen to those analysts saying the US could set up a small no-fly zone on Ukraine’s western edge to facilitate humanitarian aid. Drop in some Special Forces. Something, anything.

The purpose of the propaganda is to get Biden to sign off on something hopefully small enough that it falls below the threshold of provoking a nuclear response. A risky and delicate tasking. The bad news is Ukrainian propaganda is working. A non-partisan 74 percent of Americans say NATO should impose a no-fly zone in Ukraine. And that’s even as we are just getting started.

A quick propaganda recap. We’ve had the hero phase with the non-existent Ghost of Kyiv and the supermodels with guns. We’ve had the Russians-are-going-to-kill-us-all phase, with the faux threat of invasion to the West and the faux scare the Russians were going to create a Chernobyl-like nuclear accident by shelling a power plant. We are currently moving through the “not verifiable atrocities” phase. Alongside this is beefcake talk about Zelensky, the likes of which we haven’t seen since before the cancellations of Andrew Cuomo and Michael Avenatti. The fact-checking mania of the Covid era is in the dustbin of history as American media removes all the filters on pro-Ukrainian content.


The quality of the propaganda is not important (any scrap metal on snowy ground is breaking news of another Russian helo down, even if the metal has “Acme Junk Pile” written on it). The quantity is important, the attempt to overwhelm American mind space to the point where logic is shoved into the back corner. There is a growing cottage industry of “experts” explaining how to can go to war without going to THAT kind of war. Dissenting voices are few, and are often labeled as “Putin lovers,” with late night hosts hurling homophobic slurs at them like high school kids.

It all sounds silly when the effect of propaganda is to convince Americans higher gas prices are the cost of freedom, or booking an Airbnb they’ll never stay at will save Ukraine, or refusing Russian dressing on a salad. But it is deadly serious. There are two battles now playing out over Ukraine. The one on the ground — and the one on your social media seeking to drag America into the mud.

Only half a year after the sad ending in Afghanistan, it is stunning to watch America again contemplate going to war for some abstract purpose far removed from our own core interests. And this time it is the risk of a nuclear exchange to remind us of our mistake, not just an inglorious departure from Kabul.


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141   Onvacation   2022 Mar 14, 9:52am  

mostly reader says
I said nothing that would imply my understanding of how masks work

So do you think masks work to stop Wuhan contraction and spread or not?
142   mostly reader   2022 Mar 14, 9:53am  

It's quite amazing how people who try to challenge me on my masks comment literally repeat one of my points. While they think that they are arguing against me. Amazing.

Just so you know: in public, invalid argument that you make against masks immediately labels you as someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. This discredits your position and makes it a lot harder to submit valid argument.
143   Onvacation   2022 Mar 14, 10:00am  

mostly reader says
Just so you know: in public, invalid argument that you make against masks immediately labels you as someone who doesn't know what they are talking about.

So you're saying, "masks do work in the real world"?

What are you saying?

I think masks are harmful in many ways. CO2 concentration, oxygen restriction, micro-expression suppression, dehumanization, and little effectiveness against viruses.

Can you clearly state your opinion on mask effectiveness in the real world? Not expecting corroborating evidence just curious about your opinion.
144   richwicks   2022 Mar 14, 10:24am  

mostly reader says
Just so you know: in public, invalid argument that you make against masks immediately labels you as someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. This discredits your position and makes it a lot harder to submit valid argument.


Who are you talking to and what "invalid argument" are you talking about?

Not that I really care. I think you just like to argue,
145   mostly reader   2022 Mar 14, 10:45am  

Onvacation says
Can you clearly state your opinion on mask effectiveness in the real world? Not expecting corroborating evidence just curious about your opinion.
Mask effectiveness in the real world no longer matters. Whatever it is, it's been offset by overall harm that they bring along. You are asking my opinion on the question which doesn't need to be answered.
146   Onvacation   2022 Mar 14, 2:13pm  

mostly reader says
You are asking my opinion on the question which doesn't need to be answered.

Yep. But I was not expecting a cogent answer.
147   stereotomy   2022 Mar 14, 2:45pm  

From another thread:

Patnet has been accused of lots of things wrt the "housing boom," "Covid pandemic," "election fraud," etc. If people think that Patnet is about uncritically embracing the establishment narrative, then they are either:

a) very new here
b) an internet troll
c) sadly suffering from mental decline/alzheimers/long covid
d) incapable of using the Socratic method or logical argument
e) never really grew up

Perhaps others can add to the list here. Perhaps a poll using a modified of the above list can be used to "vet" members as far as credibility is concerned. They are free to debate their designation using rational arguments or the Socratic method, with full supporting links that others can vet.

I defy any reasonable person, in a reasonable environment such as Patnet, to claim that this is anything other than a call out to basic Patnet principles.

This is not a call to censorship. It is a call out to the dishonest to admit your mistake, or put up the evidence supporting your claims (you know who you are).
148   mostly reader   2022 Mar 14, 9:08pm  

Onvacation says
Yep. But I was not expecting a cogent answer.
I'm pointing out that 1) either you don't realize that the question is obsolete 2) or you wish to discuss my current beliefs for the sake of entertainment, 3) or this is intended as a bait for friend/foe classification in the current playground.

If it's the first, I'll elaborate (although I think it's been covered)
If it's the second, I'm not your entertainment bitch.
If it's the third, the answer is a loud and profound FU. Even if my beliefs match the "friend" profile in this regard. Still FU.

Which one was it? Or am I missing something, is there another option? Don't be shy.
149   Onvacation   2022 Mar 16, 6:50am  

mostly reader says
Which one was it? Or am I missing something, is there another option? Don't be shy.

So you don't want to share your opinion on masks. It would have been easier than your long multiple choice non answer.

Cool. I was not expecting a cogent answer.

I think masks are harmful.
151   richwicks   2022 Mar 17, 4:49pm  

Just for general propaganda, I wanted to post something I've posted a few times before:


original link


Corbett isn't either left or right, but he's often thought of as being "left". I think he did a good job demonstrating how dishonest and worthless our news media is. I know it's hard to get out of the habit of listening to it, but when it was clear they would NEVER reform, it got a lot easier to ignore it. I don't think anybody should waste their time listening to it. It's not even worthwhile to prove them to be dishonest. I think that proof has been given many many times, and it should be particularly obvious in the last few years.

Kyle Rittenhouse, mostly peaceful protests, the January 6th insurrection, our free and fair election of Biden, the pandemic, Darrell Brooks, Qaddifi about to cause a humanitarian crisis, Assad using chemical weapons, Hussein's weapons of mass destruction program. Literally everything in our news media is a lie. It is all a lie.
152   Patrick   2022 Mar 17, 5:45pm  

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/balancing-fear-covid-19-and-ukraine?source=patrick.net


There they go again! We have a new web of politics, strategies and fear-porn to shape and control the minds and thoughts of the gullible public. A propaganda forever war against the general populace, waged by our elected leaders and their deep state allies. The purpose of this particular Substack article is to help untangle the fabric of relevant recent Congressional bills, defunding future COVID-19 aid, funding the Ukraine war and the supporting White House and state funded media (MSM) fear-based thought shaping (fear-porn).

The superficial history of the 1.5 trillion spending bill that Congress debated, modified and passed last week included $14 Billion For Ukraine Aid. What is not in the spending bill is the money the White House and Nancy Pelosi wanted for COVID-19 Aid. Specifically, about $16 billion for COVID relief, which was for tests, vaccines and treatments. That money was stripped from the bill following last-minute disagreements over this provision. The MSM likes to assert that these disagreements were how to fund this provision, many House Republicans apparently assert that it was over vaccine mandates. The money for COVID-19 has now been put into separate legislation slated for a vote as early as next week. What is interesting is that funding for Ukraine war operations is almost the exact amount removed for COVID funding. That is no coincidence.

During these negotiations, a group of conservative legislators demanded a vote on defunding Biden's vaccine mandates in exchange for speeding up any government funding legislation.


The virus fraud is currently replaced by the Ukraine fraud. They are both frauds because neither of them are actually important to ordinary citizens, who are mostly immune from harm from both the virus and Ukraine. They are important only to the elite who are skimming tax money and using these supposed "emergencies" to further totalitarianism.
153   Patrick   2022 Mar 17, 8:12pm  

https://notthebee.com/article/the-white-house-briefs-not-one-not-two-but-30-tiktok-stars-about-ukraine-war?source=patrick.net

So the White House used not one, not two, but THIRTY TikTok stars to spread propaganda about the Russia-Ukraine war
154   mell   2022 Mar 17, 8:22pm  

Patrick says
https://notthebee.com/article/the-white-house-briefs-not-one-not-two-but-30-tiktok-stars-about-ukraine-war?source=patrick.net

So the White House used not one, not two, but THIRTY TikTok stars to spread propaganda about the Russia-Ukraine war


Agreed. This is not a quest for world domination, both sides should come to the table and fix up a deal so that the murderous US and mainstream media propaganda stops.
155   richwicks   2022 Mar 17, 8:23pm  

Patrick says
https://notthebee.com/article/the-white-house-briefs-not-one-not-two-but-30-tiktok-stars-about-ukraine-war?source=patrick.net

So the White House used not one, not two, but THIRTY TikTok stars to spread propaganda about the Russia-Ukraine war


The more obvious the propaganda, the better.

How easy was it for you to tell, I don't know, that David Letterman was a propagandist back in the 1990s? Now it's possible spot it instantly.
156   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Mar 17, 8:52pm  

richwicks says
Just for general propaganda, I wanted to post something I've posted a few times before:


original link


Corbett isn't either left or right, but he's often thought of as being "left". I think he did a good job demonstrating how dishonest and worthless our news media is. I know it's hard to get out of the habit of listening to it, but when it was clear they would NEVER reform, it got a lot easier to ignore it. I don't think anybody should waste their time listening to it. It's not even worthwhile to prove them to be dishonest. I think that proof has been given many many times, and it should be particularly obvious in the last few years.

Kyle Rittenhouse, mostly peaceful pr...


Yeah I noticed it too, our media constantly full of shit. So make fake videos and pictures from “Ukraine”. Iraq and Libia were like that too. Too much propaganda
157   Patrick   2022 Mar 18, 10:11am  

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/the-problem-with-that-stalled-russian-convoy/?source=patrick.net


Setting aside that no one on earth absent some Russian generals actually knew why the convoy was not moving, the media created a reason and then confirmed itself. If you follow the right people on Twitter, you can sometimes watch them form a consensus in real time, journalists thousands of miles away from the scene with no information nudging one another into the narrative. It’s kind of like watching a time-lapse film of water freezing into ice.

So are the Russians out of gas?

Consider the lack of supporting evidence. Fuel travels through the same logistics chain that beans and bullets do, and the Russians do not seem to lack for ammunition. Artillery shells are big heavy things, and there seem to be plenty of those making it to the troops on the ground. The Russians have over a million men in the field, and absent one blurry TikTok purportedly showing some shoplifting, seem to be feeding them. If a million men needed to shoplift three meals a day, it would not be hard to discover. We have also seen no evidence that Russians are looting fuel dumps as they make their way across Ukraine. ...

There is literally nothing to support the MSM’s contention that the convoy ran out of gas. ...

One convoy and one falsely reported story matter little in the middle of a vast war. But they serve as a clear example of how far the media has fallen. Once-proud outlets like the BBC and CNN are creating fake narratives and peddling them to an increasingly uncritical media consumer.
158   Patrick   2022 Mar 18, 10:24am  

https://t.me/greatreject/32430?source=patrick.net


Ukrainian soldier filmed by a resident laying a bottle of incendiary explosive on a kid’s playground to organize a false flag on peaceful targets... now imagine what else they're doing..

They got caught red handed planting explosives and then taking pictures.
159   Patrick   2022 Mar 18, 10:32am  

https://t.me/greatreject/32417?source=patrick.net


Ole Dammegärd explains how false flags are planted with the help of the crisis actor industry. On that FALSE note, LAWS are being rigged. The WEF also uses crisis actors to manipulate politics.
160   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 18, 12:52pm  

Putin Rally. Had to dig hard to find just a minute of raw footage without the Globalist Propaganda Filtration commentary from "Former Intelligence Officials who said Iraq had WMDs, Wuhan Lab had nothing to do with COVID, and the Hunter Laptop was Russian disinfo." types:

70,000 at the Rally, chanting "Russia, Russia, Russia."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZL1V8bx5Bc

The despot took to the stage at Moscow's Luzhniki World Cup stadium dressed in a £10,000 Loro Piana jacket - despite his country's economy crumbling under the weight of Western sanctions - to address a crowd waving Russian national flags and banners marked with the letter 'Z', which has become a potent symbol of the invasion.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10627555/Vladimir-Putin-holds-huge-rally-thousands-Z-flag-waving-Russians.html

Despot! I'm building a DEPOT myself.
161   mell   2022 Mar 18, 9:40pm  

It's now posted everywhere that putler phoned Trump and - amongst other things - explained that that hospital was (also) a bioweapons (storage) lab and they got 24 hours notice to remove everyone. Impossible to verify, possibly fake, esp. the phone call part, but the fact that this "disinfo" is left to stand for now makes one think there could be some truth to it. Will def be interesting to see how orange man will navigate those hot waters now being associated as "putler fan". And always remember kids, everything you hear on the side of Eurasia are 100% lies and everything you hear with us benevolent overlords - such as that we've always been at war with Eurasia - is 100% truth!
162   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 19, 2:24am  

Take a look at the "Institute for the Study of War", quoted extensively in the Pro-Globohomo Press.

Kagan, Bill Kristol, General Kean, Liesberman - all Hawks and Surgers - plus Betrayus (the Surge Author later made Director of the CIA but it didn't last when he was sleeping and sharing classified info with his biographer) and lots of other characters like a former Executive of the Kyiv Post during the 2014 Maidan Coup and various Media tie-ins.

https://www.understandingwar.org/who-we-are?source=patrick.net
163   richwicks   2022 Mar 19, 8:21am  

Patrick says
Once-proud outlets like the BBC and CNN are creating fake narratives and peddling them to an increasingly uncritical media consumer.


This is false.

First of all, CNN and BBC have ALWAYS been full of shit. This is Operation Desert Storm from 1991, recorded off from a direct satellite feed - which means, no commercial breaks, just raw footage:


original link


Second of all, I would say at least 50% of the western world, and I'm being conservative, realize that our "news" media is garbage today. What they don't realize I think, is that it's always been this way. Nothing has changed in our media, people are just becoming aware of it.

It's no worse than it was 3 decades ago.

The media is surprised that people are rejecting it, because they haven't changed.
164   Patrick   2022 Mar 19, 1:40pm  

https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/not-out-woods-yet-assessing-operational-situation-ukraine?source=patrick.net


The war in Ukraine has been dominated by an effective and far-reaching information campaign led by the Ukrainian state. The Ukrainian narrative is dominating both the news and social media cycles, which are now of equal importance in forming public opinion. The narrative is littered with broken Russian convoys, farmers triumphantly towing boutique Russian air defence systems away from their hiding places, and harrowing footage of Russian tank formations being destroyed. And yet, by analysing three maps depicting the operational picture, including one released by the UK’s Ministry of Defence (MoD) and two curated by open-source investigators – the Twitter account Jomini of the West and Konrad Muzyka’s Ukraine Conflict Monitor – it is apparent that Russian forces are making progress.


"information campaign" lol.

That means propaganda campaign with massive assistance from the US elite, whose corrupt interests are at threat in Ukraine. For example, Hunter's monthly payments from Burisima.
166   Patrick   2022 Mar 19, 8:07pm  

https://charleseisenstein.substack.com/p/reinventing-progress?s=r&source=patrick.net


In turbulent times, society becomes vulnerable to false meaning-makers who would rescue us from our bewilderment. They offer to collapse complication and chaos into simple explanations for what is happening. They tell you what is real and what is not, who is good and who is bad. They pose a single explanatory logic to tidy up the messiness of a chaotic world.

In arenas of dispute, all sides typically attempt this, pitting one narrative against another in what we now recognize as narrative warfare.

The most prevalent simplifying strategy is to identify a villain and blame everything on him. In geopolitics, this means erasing entire histories in order to blame Saddam Hussein, Bashar Al-Assad, Nicolas Maduro, or Vladimir Putin for the latest crisis. ...

A telling sign of this mentality is, when anyone reintroduces history or nuance into the conversation, to accuse them of “making excuses” for the narrative’s bad guy. When someone is obsessed with pinning causality onto the evil character of the story, they will hostilely reject any confounding context that dilutes that identification.


Side A: PUTIN BAD! PUTIN BAD!

Side B: Well, there's a lot of history to consider, such as the US-funded Maidan coup...

Side A: YOU ARE AN APOLOGIST FOR PUTIN! YOU ARE BAD! PUTIN BAD! PUTIN BAD!
168   Patrick   2022 Mar 21, 11:10am  

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/03/18/bombing-mariupol-theater-ukrainian-azov-nato-intervention/?source=patrick.net


Civilians that escaped the city through humanitarian corridors have testified that they were held by Azov as human shields in area, and that Azov fighters detonated parts of the theater as they retreated. Despite claims of a massive Russian airstrike that reduced the building to ashes, all civilians appear to have escaped with their lives.

Video of the attack on the theater remains unavailable at the time of publication; only photographs of the damaged structure can be viewed. The Russian Ministry of Defense has denied conducting an airstrike on the theater, asserting that the site had no military value and that no sorties were flown in the area on March 16.

While the Russian military operation in Ukraine has triggered a humanitarian crisis in Mariupol, it is clear that Russia gained nothing by targeting the theater, and virtually guaranteed itself another public relations blow by targeting a building filled with civilians – including ethnic Russians.

Azov, on the other hand, stood to benefit from a dramatic and grisly attack blamed on Russia. In full retreat all around Mariupol and facing the possibility of brutal treatment at the hands of a Russian military hellbent on “de-Nazification,” its fighters’ only hope seemed to lie in triggering direct NATO intervention.

The same sense of desperation informed Zelensky’s carefully scripted address to Congress, in which he invoked Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I Have A Dream” speech and played a heavily produced video depicting civilian suffering to make the case for a no fly zone.

By instigating Western public outrage over grisly Russian war crimes, Ukraine’s government is clearly aiming to generate enough pressure to overcome the Biden administration’s reluctance to directly confront Russia’s military.

But Kiev’s most emotionally potent allegation so far – that Russia deliberately bombed innocent children cowering inside a theater – has been undercut by testimonies from Mariupol residents and a widely viewed Telegram message explicitly foreshadowing a false flag attack on the building.


The first casualty of war is truth.
172   Patrick   2022 Mar 25, 5:47pm  

Paul Joseph Watson is pretty reputable.
173   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 25, 5:57pm  

One thing the Western Media will never bother with is any Ukrainian Atrocities. You can bring them photos and a few eyewitnesses right to their European Desk and they'd find excuses not to investigate, or maybe make one call to the Ukrainian Government, that will deny it, and they'll "Factcheck: Pants on Fire" the whole thing, like Biden's Laptop.

Or Obama's pallets full of cash.

We know the US Media in particular is totally biased, and the Ukraine War is the Democrats' last chance not to have a complete rout in the November Elections.
174   richwicks   2022 Mar 25, 6:02pm  

AmericanKulak says
One thing the Western Media will never bother with is any Ukrainian Atrocities.


Well, obviously. Why do you think Julian Assange is slowly being killed in incarceration?

AmericanKulak says
We know the US Media in particular is totally biased, and the Ukraine War is the Democrats' last chance not to have a complete rout in the November Elections.


I doubt it. The CIA will just steal the elections again. It was quite obvious in 2000, and since it was obvious and they got away with it, they'll just do it again.
175   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 25, 6:04pm  

richwicks says
I doubt it. The CIA will just steal the elections again. It was quite obvious in 2000, and since it was obvious and they got away with it, they'll just do it again.




I was thinking last night about that turd bucket, Paul Ryan. Clear his job was to Delay everything MAGA during the two years the Reps had the House and the Presidency. I'm wondering what 2018 irregularities looked like.
176   richwicks   2022 Mar 25, 6:14pm  

AmericanKulak says
richwicks says
I doubt it. The CIA will just steal the elections again. It was quite obvious in 2000, and since it was obvious and they got away with it, they'll just do it again.




I was thinking last night about that turd bucket, Paul Ryan. Clear his job was to Delay everything MAGA during the two years the Reps had the House and the Presidency. I'm wondering what 2018 irregularities looked like.


We're eventually going to end up with a populist dictator. SOMEBODY with a huge ego is going to recognize they can go down in history as "the greatest president ever", if they just wipe the slate clean. To do that, they will have to have nearly absolute power for a bit.

Trump made a good stab at it. He bypassed the media, pointed out it was garbage, showed the DOJ is partisan and corrupt, and demonstrated that the intelligence agencies are a bunch of traitors that just shit on Constitutional rights. 2024 will be interesting.
177   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 25, 6:25pm  

richwicks says

We're eventually going to end up with a populist dictator. SOMEBODY with a huge ego is going to recognize they can go down in history as "the greatest president ever", if they just wipe the slate clean. To do that, they will have to have nearly absolute power for a bit.

Trump made a good stab at it. He bypassed the media, pointed out it was garbage, showed the DOJ is partisan and corrupt, and demonstrated that the intelligence agencies are a bunch of traitors that just shit on Constitutional rights. 2024 will be interesting.





I flat out HOPED he would do this. Sadly, there are too many Milleys in the Military. The Deep State won't clean itself up, and as Bannon notes, they're not just going to hand you the keys even if you do win fair and square in an election.

It's funny how the "Deep State" went from a "Conspiracy Theory" to something along the lines of heroes resisting the unwashed hordes from ruining America in the WaPo right after the 2016 election.

It's remarkable it took 200+ years to get here. It usually happens a lot faster. Didn't Jefferson say a revolution every 40 years would probably be necessary? I'd say we went about 200 before things got obviously and truly terrible. I think of all the lost liberties, to buy dynamite at the hardware store or guns in the mail without ID, or for a bar owner to decide whether there would be ash trays or not. To say nothing of the fewer and fewer small stores and businesses than there were just 30-40 years ago.
178   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 25, 6:48pm  

Patrick says
Paul Joseph Watson is pretty reputable.


Not with me. I literally have no idea who he is. Besides, shouldn't real skeptic refrain from blindly believing anyone until solid proof is provided?

So, no video, I presume?

PS. You know that it's pretty easy to see if the person is being hanged to death for reals vs acting like he/she is being hanged. Especially if it's done w/o a drop, like the picture seems to suggest.
179   richwicks   2022 Mar 25, 6:55pm  

Eric Holder says
Patrick says
Paul Joseph Watson is pretty reputable.


Not with me. I literally have no idea who he is. Besides, shouldn't real skeptic refrain from blindly believing anyone until solid proof is provided?

So, no video, I presume?


Here:

https://rumble.com/c/PJW

Enjoy. Review his OLD stuff before you bother to look at his new stuff. That gives you a better idea of is he's worthwhile to listen to, and isn't just telling you what you might want to hear.
180   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 25, 7:08pm  

richwicks says
Eric Holder says
Patrick says
Paul Joseph Watson is pretty reputable.


Not with me. I literally have no idea who he is. Besides, shouldn't real skeptic refrain from blindly believing anyone until solid proof is provided?

So, no video, I presume?


Here:

https://rumble.com/c/PJW?source=patrick.net

Enjoy. Review his OLD stuff before you bother to look at his new stuff. That gives you a better idea of is he's worthwhile to listen to, and isn't just telling you what you might want to hear.


I'm not really interested in people making faces and talking in dramatic voices. All I want is the video of people being hanged. I can't find it in the collection you referenced. Are you sure it's there?

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