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That one has my name on it.

Are they going to create tens of thousands of felons for having a 3c stamped piece of sheet metal?

Imagine if American Indians had guns to defend their land. They carried bows n arrows n got outmatched.. There is a great lesson to be learned from natives.

One thing I find interesting about the whole argument of "non-military weapons" that 2a restriction people try to say should be excluded:

The amendment states :

"A well regulated militia, being necessary"

then says:

"the right of the people to bear arms"

it doesn't say
"the right of the militia to bear arms"

I don't understand how this isn't interpreted directly as: the people need weapons of war to bring to the fight.

This would seem to blow all these safety restrictions on automatic weapons, destructive devices, etc away. The right to fight wars with deadly weapons was reserved to the people, not to the militia or to the military.. I never see anyone making this argument via saying the amendment doesn't reserve the right to war weapons to the militia...

I guess you would also call me hypocrite when I tell my wife in summertime to turn off the heat and then in wintertime to turn it back on?

https://gunsandgadgetsdaily.com/breaking-half-of-america-now-allows-constitutional-carry/?source=patrick.net

The only refuge left for those who prophesy the downfall of the State governments is the visionary supposition that the federal government may previously accumulate a military force for the projects of ambition. The reasonings contained in these papers must have been employed to little purpose indeed, if it could be necessary now to disprove the reality of this danger. That the people and the States should, for a sufficient period of time, elect an uninterupted succession of men ready to betray both; that the traitors should, throughout this period, uniformly and systematically pursue some fixed plan for the extension of the military establishment; that the governments and the people of the States should silently and patiently behold the gathering storm, and continue to supply the materials, until it should be prepared to burst on their own heads, must appear to every one more like the incoherent dreams of a delirious jealousy, or the misjudged exaggerations of a counterfeit zeal, than like the sober apprehensions of genuine patriotism. Extravagant as the supposition is, let it however be made. Let a regular army, fully equal to the resources of the country, be formed; and let it be entirely at the devotion of the federal government; still it would not be going too far to say, that the State governments, with the people on their side, would be able to repel the danger. The highest number to which, according to the best computation, a standing army can be carried in any country, does not exceed one hundredth part of the whole number of souls; or one twenty-fifth part of the number able to bear arms. This proportion would not yield, in the United States, an army of more than twenty-five or thirty thousand men. To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by men chosen from among themselves, fighting for their common liberties, and united and conducted by governments possessing their affections and confidence. It may well be doubted, whether a militia thus circumstanced could ever be conquered by such a proportion of regular troops. Those who are best acquainted with the last successful resistance of this country against the British arms, will be most inclined to deny the possibility of it. Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. And it is not certain, that with this aid alone they would not be able to shake off their yokes. But were the people to possess the additional advantages of local governments chosen by themselves, who could collect the national will and direct the national force, and of officers appointed out of the militia, by these governments, and attached both to them and to the militia, it may be affirmed with the greatest assurance, that the throne of every tyranny in Europe would be speedily overturned in spite of the legions which surround it. Let us not insult the free and gallant citizens of America with the suspicion, that they would be less able to defend the rights of which they would be in actual possession, than the debased subjects of arbitrary power would be to rescue theirs from the hands of their oppressors. Let us rather no longer insult them with the supposition that they can ever reduce themselves to the necessity of making the experiment, by a blind and tame submission to the long train of insidious measures which must precede and produce it.

December 29, 2012, marks the 122nd Anniversary of the murder of 297 Sioux Indians at Wounded Knee Creek on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota. These 297 people, in their winter camp, were murdered by federal agents and members of the 7th Cavalry who had come to confiscate their firearms “for their own safety and protection”. The slaughter began after the majority of the Sioux had peacefully turned in their firearms. The Calvary began shooting and managed to wipe out the entire camp. 200 of the 297 victims were women and children.

Well regulated. I keep comming back to this

GreaterNYCDude says

Well regulated. I keep comming back to this

Wake me up when our government is well regulated. When they start following and enforcing the Constitution then you can make that point again.

Well regulated. I keep comming back to this. If you're a normal person, no mental health issues, no history of violent crimes, then I really don't care what you arm yourself with. Or if you choose to conceal or carry openly.

But clearly we have a problem. People that don't fit the above have done tremendous damage. This applies to both the lone wolf and the gangbangers in the inner city. I don't want to penalize the many based on the actions of a few, but there must be something we can do.

More importantly why are these events happening with increasing frequency? Has it always been this way but we never noticed? Or is there something fundamentally different today compared with ten, twenty or fifty years ago?

I don't have any good awnsers. Just asking the questions.

Militias were well regulated. They have structure, rules, discipline.

On the second thought it's not really that powerful: about 1/3 energy of .32 ACP which is weak sauce in itself. So the donkey will probably leave it alone for now.

promote family values, all the shooters came from really fucked up families. We have to address people, not the weapon of choice