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Be VERY careful with MEMRI.

Remember the claim that Iran wanted to "wipe Israel off the map"?

They have no such idiom in Iranian. What they were (reportedly) saying was that the Zionist government must go away, that it would collapse in time. There was lots of discussion about it at the time.

MEMRI has no problem mistranslating, and it's run by Yigal Carmen, an ex-IDF officer in the intelligence section. All intelligence agencies of the "western world" deal with disseminating propaganda. Something that has always bothered me is that the literal text of what is being spoken is never provided, which would allow an astute researcher to go through the pain of translating themselves, word by word.

Remember, the Palestinian Leadership, like the UVF/IRA in the 80s and 90s, or Colombian "Right Wing" Militia and "Communist" Groups, doesn't want a solution. They like it just the way it is, so they're only partially responsible for running things, can steal lots of UN Aid, delay elections years past they're due (if ever in the case of Hamas), and grift and whinge for more $$$. ALL of them have palaces and penthouses from Paris to Dubai. Even Villas in Gaza and Ramallah with 20 rooms and 6 bathrooms. KGB Agent Aref of "Plantation" (Big Farm) aka Yassir Arafat owned properties across France and the MENA, including a multimillon dollar place in Paris; Abass is worth tens of millions, and Haniyeh of Hamas is estimated at $3 Billion.

Not repairing the water treatment plant means big money selling bottled water, despite plenty of cash annually to do so.

This is why they always say "no" without offering a counter offer and walk away from the table; it's why the Arab-Israeli negotiations without Palestinians are so important.

You'll hardly meet a Palestinian Family in the West that doesn't own multiple properties with multiple citizenships and residencies, because of this grift. Remember Omar Mateen's wife? He signed the property over to her and she actively and knowingly helped him plan attacks; her family is based in Cali and owns multiple properties worldwide. So does Linda Sarsour, both her and her husband's families own plural buildings in Brooklyn and across the US and Jordan. Often in multiple countries. Yet they claim to be refugees, and their special Grift UNWRA, which excludes them from the normal Refugee rules (residency, much less citizenship, in any country removes refugee status) that every single other group is under from the Sudan to Bangladesh.

AmericanKulak says

This is why they always say "no" without offering a counter offer and walk away from the table; it's why the Arab-Israeli negotiations without Palestinians are so important.

There's no serious attempt at a solution on either side, both governments (as in all governments) are corrupt.

Every "negotiation" is never intended to be met with a solution. If either side was interested in a solution, offers would be made public AS they were being made. If the Palestinians were given a solution THEY could accept but the leadership refused it, the leadership would have their heads on silver plates.

Neither power structure wants a solution.

stereotomy says

Par for the course - the US went from subsidizing NAZI's and executing Patriots (Ruby Ridge, Waco), to executing Patriots (Covid "Vaccines") and supporting NAZI's (Ukraine).

Finally, somebody knowledgeable! Maybe you can explain why USA was supposedly supporting Globohomo Joos and NAZIS in Ukraine simultaneously? If Ukraine is supposedly a proxy to attack poor defenseless Mother Russia and US have installed the Globohomo Joo government there why does it supposedly simultaneously support NAZIS who famously hate everyting Globo, Homo or Joo?

So far nobody could crack this puzzle for me.

All these 3 things can't be true at the same time, so which one is false?

Eric Holder says

If Ukraine is supposedly a proxy to attack poor defenseless Mother Russia

You keep making this strawman.

I don't think anybody feels sorry for Russia, or thinks it's under attack.

Preemptive war is a doctrine the United States normalized and made internationally acceptable because "we can't wait for the final proof to come in the form of a mushroom cloud". Russia is just doing a preemptive war because Ukraine refuses to agree not to join NATO.

Rules are set by precedent and George W. Bush established that precedent.

The US establishment is just happy to restart the Cold War and gin up the money machine making weapons that if we ever were to use, would end civilization. That's what they want, and that's what they finally got. The more Ukrainians and Russians that die in this stupid war, the greater the enmity will be created. The US will supply Ukraine with as much weaponry as they can, right on down to 5 year old kids driving tanks, and firing ManPADS.

At this point I think it’s being driven by military industry lobbyists who want to sell weapons that will be given to Ukraine. They don’t have a pet battlefield to supply since Biden shut down their Afghan operation. So this is like life support for the MIC.

richwicks says

Eric Holder says

If Ukraine is supposedly a proxy to attack poor defenseless Mother Russia

You keep making this strawman.

I don't think anybody feels sorry for Russia, or thinks it's under attack.

So we agree that there Russia was in no imminent danger of being attacked by Ukraine? Good! We are making great progress here.

Patrick says

And we know this is not crisis actors posing how exactly? Let's see the whole video.

In the months before Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, an oligarch with Russian ties allegedly paid for locals to paint swastikas around Kharkiv, sources say. The effort, according to the sources, was part of a false flag operation to exaggerate Ukraine’s Nazi presence at a time when Putin was using it as a pretext for war.

The alleged plot, according to multiple sources, involved Pavel Fuks, a real estate, banking, and oil magnate who, the sources claim, was co-opted by Russian security forces to participate. Through intermediaries, Fuks allegedly offered between $500 and $1,500 for street level criminals to vandalize city streets with pro-Nazi graffiti in December, January, and February.

Oleg Plyush, a former top Ukrainian kickboxer who says he’s a friend of Fuks and spoke to him about the swastika plot, tells Rolling Stone he learned about the scheme from an intermediary involved with finding people to carry out the vandalism. According to Plyush’s account, when confronted about the scheme, Fuks claimed that “he had no choice” and that it was his “assignment” — mandatory if he wanted to stay in business in the region.

Fuks did not return emails sent to his business and personal accounts. His US lawyer, John Lomas, did not return emails and a phone call seeking comment.

Fuks is Jewish and a major contributor to a holocaust memorial in Kyiv, and there’s no reason to believe he would pay for swastikas out of antisemitism. Instead, if confirmed, the plot suggests there was at least one deliberate attempt by the Russian security state to manufacture evidence to exaggerate the sway of Nazism in Ukraine. In the run-up to the invasion and after, Putin claimed Ukraine had fallen under Nazi control and that the invasion was necessary to liberate the country — a claim broadly dismissed internationally but that, with the help of state-run media, seems to have taken hold among many Russians.

Plyush tells Rolling Stone he is aware of three instances of anti-Semitic graffiti that Fuks allegedly paid for. He claims the alleged campaign extended to Kyiv, where a local Jewish publication found swastikas spray-painted in November near the city’s main synagogue. Plyush said that the low-level “street thugs” who were hired to paint the symbols, two of whom he says he personally knows, were offered around $1,000 or $1,500 each. Other sources put the amount at around $500.

Plyush provided a copy of his passport and offered to testify under oath, if needed, to his alleged encounter with Fuks. “I have no fear. I’m not afraid of anyone,” he tells Rolling Stone, speaking through a translator in a phone interview.

A real person, a known friend or the accused ready to testify under oath. This is how it used to be done when journos weren't complete clowns.

Eric Holder says

In the months before Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, an oligarch with Russian ties allegedly paid for locals to paint swastikas around Kharkiv, sources say. The effort, according to the sources, was part of a false flag operation to exaggerate Ukraine’s Nazi presence at a time when Putin was using it as a pretext for war.

The alleged plot, according to multiple sources, involved Pavel Fuks, a real estate, banking, and oil magnate who, the sources claim, was co-opted by Russian security forces to participate. Through intermediaries, Fuks allegedly offered between $500 and $1,500 for street level criminals to vandalize city streets with pro-Nazi graffiti in December, January, and February.

Oleg Plyush, a former top Ukrainian kickboxer who says he’s a friend of Fuks and spoke to him about the swastika plot, tells Rolling Stone he learned about the scheme from an intermediary involved with finding people to carry out the vandalism. According to Ply...

I don't doubt this. Neither there is any doubt that most if not all governments, esp. the US and the Ukraine (US by proxy) engage in such tactics. Canada and Europe as well. Plenty of fake hate crimes, fake nazis, fake misogynists and fake anti alphabet people. It's called propaganda and everyone engages in it. Most thank God do not use it as a pretext for war, unfortunately the US has done so multiple times though. And those who don't use it against their own people though which is not that much "better".

"The Russian Imperial Movement (RIM) is an extreme-right, white supremacist militant organization based in St. Petersburg, Russia. Founded in 2002, the group promotes ethnic Russian nationalism, advocates the restoration of Russia’s tsarist regime, and seeks to fuel white supremacy extremism in the West. RIM maintains contacts with neo-Nazi and white supremacist groups across Europe and the United States. The group has provided paramilitary training to Russian nationals and members of like-minded organizations from other countries at its facilities in St. Petersburg. Members of RIM’s armed wing, the Imperial Legion, have fought alongside pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine .... In addition to its ultra-nationalist beliefs, RIM is known for its anti-Semitic and anti-Ukrainian views.


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On 26 January 2020, a Russian man named Anatoly Udodov was arrested at the Arlanda airport after the police had discovered a cache of weapons belonging to him. The Swedish police had confiscated numerous firearms from him the previous summer due to his connections to SMR. Udodov was described as the representative of RIM in Sweden by Vorobyev and investigators believe he is the local recruiter for the RIM training camps. According to Swedish police Udodov is friends with a convicted terrorist, 23-year-old Viktor Melin. Melin was part of a group of Swedish neo-Nazis who went to Russia for military training, and upon returning was responsible for a string of bombings against minorities and political enemies. RIM has also provided paramilitary training to German, Finnish and Polish neo-Nazis.

RIM had supported the “Novorossiya” (or “New Russia”) project in eastern Ukraine along with other far-right groups, including the neo-Nazi National Socialist Initiative (NSI), National Democratic Party of Russia (NDP), and Russian All-National Union (RONS)

https://cisac.fsi.stanford.edu/mappingmilitants/profiles/russian-imperial-movement?source=patrick.net#text_block_22704

https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-51586850?source=patrick.net

https://warsawinstitute.org/kremlin-uses-radical-russian-imperial-movement-destabilize-west/?source=patrick.net#

https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1511001899184627712?source=patrick.net










Published on Denis Pushilin's official Telegram channel: https://t.co/ub1BgUxzi6


Not "something vaguely resembling something" - straight-up Nazi symbols.

So Nazis are indeed in Ukraine and are very real. And they are mass killing Ukrainians.

According to this, Ukraine deliberately provoked Russia into starting a war to cut off Russia from supplying LNG to Europe.


original link

Eric Holder says

Not "something vaguely resembling something" - straight-up Nazi symbols.

Which SS unit is the Valknot associated with? Countless people have this, it's an ancient symbol found all over the Norse, Celtic, and Slavic world.

The Wulfsangel was a popular 1920s-30s symbol, used extensively by the SS. And the Black Sun.

There are many, many keys representing units in US Military heraldry, esp. MP and Support Units.

My Goodness, this organization has both a skull AND a key! Definitely Nazi.

CIA Switzerland Inc.™ is Gestapo and SS re-constituted. They are happy to re-vivify Nazis wherever they can find them, and in Ukraine, they never went away.

I imagine a great deal of the symbology is polymorphous perverse and is diddled by different groups in different ways.

The EU is Fascism by Economic Means.

* Small number of large corporations
* Regulations and enforcement carefully selected to punish Entrepreneurs and Small Business
* Insisting all Judges be "Independent" - that is, Neoliberal Fascist
etc.

LOL! If you were wondering where they stand:

"Ukraine Slams “Negro-Love” And Vows To “Lead The White Races Of The World In Final Crusade”

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=196760

“So why the “Negro-love” on a legislative level?...They want to break everyone who has risen to defend themselves, their family, their right to be masters of their own land!...They want to destroy the Nation’s biological resistance to everything alien and do to us what happened to Old Europe, where the immigrant hordes are a nightmare for the French, Germans and Belgians, where cities are “blackening” fast and crime and the drug trade are invading even the remotest corners”

Nazis are preparing to march in the upcoming May 9th parade:

https://mobile.twitter.com/expatua/status/1520480393337745410?source=patrick.net

https://mobile.twitter.com/irgarner/status/1519860036016693249?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&source=patrick.net

https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1520483058453037059?t=mtd3BnhpjMSCDycwmAYGcQ&s=19&source=patrick.net

https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/reuters-supporting-nazis-in-ukraine

Holy shit…

Reuters’s report on Russian forces advancing in Ukraine. Near the bottom of the article, they show a series of 24 photos from Ukraine pertaining to the situation.

The 4th photo is attached to this message, see link to article as well. The photo has a caption: “A local resident inspects a damaged van following a military strike, amid Russia's attack on Ukraine, at a residential area in Kharkiv, Ukraine”.

But apparently Reuters didn’t check the tattoo on the guy in the photo, because there’s a big ass swastika on his arm…

Notice Reuters trying to paint the narrative that this is a “residential area”. They fail to clarify that this residential area has been overtaken by nazis… as seen in their own photo…

Just like with the maternity ward story. There weren’t any civilians there, it was just nazis using an abandoned maternity ward.

The media/left sure do love some nazis.

-Clandestine

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/battle-ukraines-east-rages-zelenskiy-vows-retake-territory-2022-06-07/

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/canadian-officials-who-met-with-ukrainian-unit-linked-to-neo-nazis-feared-exposure-by-news-media-documents

Canadian officials who met with members of a Ukrainian battalion linked to neo-Nazis didn’t denounce the unit, but were instead concerned the media would expose details of the get-together, according to newly released documents.

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The Canadians met with and were briefed by leaders from the Azov Battalion in June 2018. The officers and diplomats did not object to the meeting and instead allowed themselves to be photographed with battalion officials despite previous warnings that the unit saw itself as pro-Nazi. The Azov Battalion then used those photos for its online propaganda, pointing out the Canadian delegation expressed “hopes for further fruitful co-operation.”

After a journalist asked the Canadian Forces about the Azov social media postings, officers scrambled to come up with a response, according to documents obtained by this newspaper through Access to Information law.

Lt. Col. Fraser Auld, commander of Canada’s Joint Task Force Ukraine, warned that a news article might be soon published and could result in questions being asked inside the Canadian government about why such a meeting took place.

Article content
A year before the meeting, Canada’s Joint Task Force Ukraine produced a briefing on the Azov Battalion, acknowledging its links to Nazi ideology. “Multiple members of Azov have described themselves as Nazis,” the Canadian officers warned in their 2017 briefing.

Bernie Farber, head of the Canadian Anti-Hate Network, said the Canadians should have immediately walked out of the Azov Battalion briefing. “Canadian armed forces personnel do not meet with Nazis; period, full stop,” Farber said. “This a horrendous mistake that shouldn’t have been made.”

Farber said it was also disturbing the Azov unit was able to use the Canadians in propaganda attempts to legitimize its far-right ideology. Besides its support of Nazi ideology, Azov members have been accused of war crimes and torture.

More real and dangerous Nazis found in Germany:

https://mobile.twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1563094037728337920

RWSGFY says

More real and dangerous Nazis found in Germany:

https://mobile.twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1563094037728337920

Also:

And just like that so-called "Azov Nazis" whom Putler swore to "prosecute" (for god knows what) are allowed to go free as birds from the Ruscist custody. Yes, including commanders.

I told you the whole Nazi thing was bullshit, didn't I? Yes I did. I fucking did.🥇

Just because you have tattoos of Hitler, wermacht eagles, SS lightening bolts and swastikas doesn't mean you are a nazi. Some prisoner exchanges (Five Azov nazi commanders) are going to Turkey and won't be going back to Ukraine until after hostilities cease.

https://t.me/WeTheMedia/75690

Ceffer says

Just because you have tattoos of Hitler, wermacht eagles, SS lightening bolts and swastikas doesn't mean you are a nazi. Those prisoner exchanges are going to Turkey and won't be going back to Ukraine until after hostilities cease.

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No pictures of any Hitler tattoos on any of the prisoners with a name and face, no prosecution for anything, free as birds. The whole bullshit Nazi narrative has collapsed and fizzled.

Meanwhile in Moscow:



Name, face, associates. Hopefully prosecution later too.

Remember: Ruscists always lie and project. No exception.

@RWSGFY Read about Stepan Bandera.

Patrick says

@RWSGFY Read about Stepan Bandera.

I did. The guy was a Ukrainian freedom fighter and a prisoner of Nazi death camp from early July of 1941.

So not sure what are you implying here. Oh, I see: he fought against Ruscists occupation way into the 1950s and WE CAN'T HAVE THAT!!!

RWSGFY says

Patrick says

@RWSGFY Read about Stepan Bandera.

I did. The guy was a Ukrainian freedom fighter and a prisoner of Nazi death camp from early July of 1941.

So not sure what are you implying here. Oh, I see: he fought against Ruscists occupation way into the 1950s and WE CAN'T HAVE THAT!!!

Well, correct this article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera

Stepan Andrijowycz Bandera; 1 January 1909 – 15 October 1959) was a Ukrainian far-right leader of the radical wing of Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists named OUN-B. Bandera's organization was devoted to the independence of Ukraine but was also responsible for the ethnic cleansing, pogroms, implicated in collaboration with Nazi Germany and the Holocaust.

richwicks says

Well, correct this article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera

Oh, wikipedia is now a solid source? LOL. Nice to know.

Gee, somebody said "he was responsible" and suddenly our sceptiest of all sceptics is persuaded. He did all the horrible crimes while being locked up in the Sachsenhausen? What a Houdini!

OK, how about another fact: USSR wanted Bandera's oraganization - UPA - and him personally to be indicted under Nuremberg process as "Nazi collaborants" by bringing the exact accusations Ruscists like you keep bringing up to this very day. Guess what - their "proof" was reviewed and rejected by the same court that hanged all the real Nazis. Bandera lived free man in Munich up until 1959 when he was assasinated by the KGB. Yes, of course, in your world the only thing this proves is that THE WEST IS NAZIST, NAZIST, NAZIST!!!!

Bless your heart.

PS. BTW, WTF some guy dead for 50+ years has to do with justifications for all the Ruscist war crimes in Ukraine?

PPS. And how come all the modern supposedly "Nazis" from Azov battalion who were captured in Mariupol were allowed to go free? Including their commanders. I mean, didn't Ruscia have solid evidence of their supposed Nazist crimes? What gives? Is Pukin a Nazi collaborator covering for his Nazi friends?

Eric Holder says

richwicks says

Well, correct this article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera

Oh, wikipedia is now a solid source? LOL. Nice to know

No, it's not a solid source.

But you're not a source at all.

All I've ever seen from you, is mindlessness. Demonstrate you can think and reason. I don't really believe you're a real person. Every group is infiltrated, I just think you're one of them. This is why you don't show any ability to think, you're not paid to do that.

RWSGFY says

So not sure what are you implying here.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-of-ukrainian-nationalists-march-in-in-honor-of-nazi-collaborator/

Hundreds of Ukrainian nationalists march in honor of Nazi collaborator
Stepan Bandera led Ukrainian Insurgent Army, which fought alongside Nazi Germany during WWII, killing thousands of Jews and Poles

Patrick says

Hundreds of Ukrainian nationalists march in honor of Nazi collaborator
Stepan Bandera led Ukrainian Insurgent Army, which fought alongside Nazi Germany during WWII, killing thousands of Jews and Poles

I used to think these were all intelligence agency actions. I still think they are, but there are so many more NPC's than I ever realized.

I have to admit, I'm not comfortable leading, but I'm even far less uncomfortable following. The (apparent?) mindlessness of people is almost inhuman to me. I never realized how few people think.

I understand the contempt so-called leaders have for the population. Imagine being the person that was at the top telling people they had to get a vaccination and wear a mask for a disease that has a 99.8% probability of surviving, and having MOST of them comply? I slum around and ride the bus here every now and then, there was a bus driver that was in a PANIC over this which I will never forget. I can feel the disgust of "our leaders". I know a person that I believe is afraid of me entering her home because I'm open about not being vaccinated. Think I don't feel contempt for this person? They'll believe anything.

And it's not hatred I feel either, it's just kind of intense disappointment. This person can't do basic reasoning. It's kind of disgusting. I'm no disease expert or biologist, but I can reason. She can't. They're on autopilot their entire lives.