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2nd Amendment Discussion


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2018 Feb 17, 11:51am   286,245 views  1,448 comments

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With all the talk about the school shootings, let's take a look at what the 2nd Amendment actually says:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Couple things to note in there:

1. The specific mention of a militia being the reason for the need to bear arms.
2. The 2nd Amendment never mentions the word gun at all.

So, what exactly is the definition of "arms"?

In 1755 Dr. Johnson’s Dictionary of the English Language was first published. It defined “arms” as “weapons of offence, or armour of defence.”

Weapons of offence would seem to include pretty much anything and everything, from knives to nuclear weapons. The US has already seen fit to ban some weapons of offence so the 2nd Amendment clearly has not been interpreted strictly as meaning that the US cannot ban all "arms". Therefore, the 2nd Amendment does not guarantee citizens the right to own whatever weapons they choose.

So it then becomes a question of which weapons should be banned, which should be strictly regulated, and which should be lightly regulated or not at all. Like anything else, we should weigh an individual's right with society's right. When looked at in that manner, it becomes very difficult to justify why fully automatic or semi automatic rifles should be allowed. What purpose do they serve an individual? And why would that purpose outweigh the extreme damage those weapons have cased society??

Patrick thinks the Chamber of Commerce is the worst organization, and he may be correct, but the NRA is not far behind.



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736   Eric Holder   2022 Jun 10, 12:53pm  

Patrick says








Did he call Putin an opressor just now? Tsk-tsk-tsk. That's very Globohomo Joo Nazi of him saying that about OUR GREAT CHRISTIAN LEADER!
740   Patrick   2022 Jun 15, 8:17am  


The Post Millennial
@TPostMillennial
Jun 14
Tucker Carlson: "If you can take their guns, why can't you take their homes? Why can't you empty their bank accounts? Ooh sound paranoid, Alex Jones stuff? That just happened in Canada."
741   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2022 Jun 15, 2:17pm  

Patrick says




he looks like that Penguin villain from Batman movies.
744   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2022 Jun 16, 2:26pm  

Eric Holder says

RWSGFY says




https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1536301391106408453


FUCKING NAZI!!!


should explain why these news aren't main stream in US. faggots here want to disarm all of us here. every day I check news sites (not to read, but to see what the faggots are selling)... they are still pushing gun control, some shit about standing with Ukraine, and now January 6 comedy show.
746   Eric Holder   2022 Jun 17, 12:15pm  

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says

Eric Holder says


RWSGFY says





https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1536301391106408453


FUCKING NAZI!!!



should explain why these news aren't main stream in US. faggots here want to disarm all of us here. every day I check news sites (not to read, but to see what the faggots are selling)... they are still pushing gun control, some shit about standing with Ukraine, and now January 6 comedy show.


Is Morawiecki a faggot too?
749   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Jun 18, 1:32pm  

Patrick says








thats just the point.

communists red flagged people into seberia same way.
751   Patrick   2022 Jun 29, 5:27pm  

https://www.wsj.com/articles/more-legal-gun-control-regulation-reduce-violent-crime-shooting-murder-brazil-semi-automatic-permit-supremep-court-new-york-decision-11656268995


More Legal Guns Reduced Crime in Brazil
Homicide fell 34% after Bolsonaro made firearms permits easier and cheaper.

“Lives are on the line,” President Biden said after the Supreme Court held New York state’s restrictive gun-permit regime unconstitutional last week. Gov. Kathy Hochul warned: “This could place millions of New Yorkers in harm’s way.” Brazil’s experience suggests otherwise.
752   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Jun 29, 8:40pm  

Patrick says








most are government officials on the list, cops, judges, etc..,
753   mostly reader   2022 Jun 29, 9:53pm  

Bd6r says


Answer, at least in last few school shootings, is that they would have been prevented if EXISTING laws would have been enforced, and that they would have been much less deadly if heroes in BLUE! would have done their damned job.


DeShaney vs. Winnebago and Town of Castle Rock vs. Gonzales. The heros in blue don't have to do their job. How fucked up is that?

That, plus mental health issue.

A-R, Shmey-R. At schoolyard distances and against unprotected targets granda's 12Ga is a no less formidable weapon. If someone really wanted to making a right step to fixing the problem - well, mental health seems like a lower hanging fruit there.
754   Booger   2022 Jun 30, 4:59pm  

https://news.yahoo.com/u-supreme-court-orders-lower-150520950.html

I guess that this means that I don't have to drive to Delaware to buy high capacity magazines!

ERECTION INTENSIFYING!!!
755   Patrick   2022 Jul 1, 2:08pm  

https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2022/06/30/new-york-times-gun-n59920


New York Times opinion editor wants a gun
By Tom Knighton | Jun 30
756   Robert Sproul   2022 Jul 1, 4:46pm  

Personal Information of Every California Concealed-Carry Permit Holder Leaked
'The information included the name, address, age, Criminal Identification Index (CII) number and license type of every CCW permit holder in the state'
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/personal-information-of-every-california-concealed-carry-permit-holder-leaked/

The petty, vindictive, fuckers. Imagine you are an abused stalk-ee that has obtained a gun and carry license for protection and the State prints that fact ALONG WITH YOUR ADDRESS.
757   AmericanKulak   2022 Jul 1, 4:51pm  

"accidental" = plausible deniability, and very, very useful for some.
758   AmericanKulak   2022 Jul 1, 4:53pm  

Also, I dreamed of a mountain of blue helmets stacked to the moon.

And my sheets were stained when I woke up.
759   Eric Holder   2022 Jul 1, 5:31pm  

Robert Sproul says

Personal Information of Every California Concealed-Carry Permit Holder Leaked



ALL FIVE OF THEM!!!
761   Patrick   2022 Jul 5, 2:16pm  

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/_evelynrae/status/1543725632802021376


@_evelynrae
Jul 3
This could have ended very differently had it not have been the 2nd amendment…


763   richwicks   2022 Jul 5, 6:09pm  

Patrick says

This could have ended very differently had it not have been the 2nd amendment…


Too bad the trigger wasn't pulled. Hope the mother fucker was arrested, hope the DA isn't corrupt.
771   Patrick   2022 Jul 21, 8:33am  

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/when-a-good-guy-with-a-gun-saves-lives/


The mainstream media has picked up on a story of a heroic armed citizen being heralded as “a good Samaritan” for shooting and killing a gunman who opened fire inside a Greenwood, Indiana mall. It’s been a long time coming, but it’s better late than never for such left-leaning media outlets as ABC, NBC, People magazine, the Today Show, the Washington Post and others reporting what gun owners have known forever: the best — and ofttimes only — way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with another gun.

Yesterday, a man with a rifle managed to kill three people inside the Greenwood Park Mall. But then, a 22-year-old man used a firearm he was legally carrying concealed to shoot the gunman and end his killing spree. Greenwood Police Chief Jim Ison told reporters following the incident:

The real hero of the day is the citizen that was lawfully carrying a firearm in that food court and was able to stop that shooter almost as soon as he began.
772   Eric Holder   2022 Jul 21, 12:12pm  

Defensive gun use not rare; concealed carry laws do not cause gun crime

Shannon Watts, a gun control activist and the founder of Moms Demand Action, claims that defensive gun use in the United States is “rare” and that laws allowing people to carry guns increase gun crime. Both of her claims are dubious at best.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/defensive-gun-use-not-rare-concealed-carry-laws-do-not-cause-gun-crime/ar-AAZNgFH?cvid=43d91878fbc54ce8961c5084fff09eae
773   Patrick   2022 Jul 25, 4:17pm  

http://jpfo.org/alerts2022/alert20220725.htm


When the Second Amendment was written as a part of the Bill of Rights, it was uncontroversial. The new American republic had just transited through a grueling revolutionary war to throw off rule of the British crown. The British government had been violating the rights of Englishmen, including the right to keep and bear arms. The first battle of the war started as the British army marched through Lexington to Concorde, Mass., to confiscate arms and ammunition the colonists had stockpiled. After several instances where arms and ammunition were confiscated from individuals, General Gage acted to disarm the entire town of Boston.

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