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I want more previews before I slap down my hard earned cent. After all, a penny will get you bail in Santa Cruz.

Ceffer says

I want more previews before I slap down my hard earned cent. After all, a penny will get you bail in Santa Cruz.

Why? This is obviously not the land of the free.

It's a bunch of pussies that are ruled over by oligarchs. How different was Obama over Bush Jr.? What? You mean Obama gave us RomneyCare and made it illegal not to purchase health insurance? Oh, I know, it made marriage between homosexuals legal, because we all cared about that.

But he bombed 5 more nations after Bush lied us into at least one war, more probably two.

Where's our fucking peace dividend after the nuclear super power of the USSR finally collapsed?

War is a Racket and our Presidents are Puppets. The main production of this nation is war now, nothing else. Look at poor Ukraine, which the United States overthrew, and now controls though puppets.. I wonder how much of that nation will be wiped out before the US stops funding the Jewish traitor sociopath that is its supposed president? Quite interesting to see a sociopath isn't it? He'll kill every fucking person in Ukraine until he's directed to quit. He doesn't care. He's a sociopath.

Ceffer says

I want more previews before I slap down my hard earned cent.

I'd agree. That or I'm going to need one heck of a good intro line and title to pique peopels interest.

But more importantly... how do you feel about the IRS getting such a large cash increase and stepping up enforcement efforts?

These huge spending bills that total in the tens of Billions or even a Trillion or two, always pass with mostly grift in mind.
No where near the full amount is spent by time the next election cycle changes political will and the focus shifts. By then most of the money that was spent,
went to Nancy Pelosi, and Liz Cheney greased Lobbyists hands, and got their kickbacks.

Besides that, where in the hell are they going to find 87,000 capable people willing or capable of firing a pew pew shootie thing?
Get them trained and into the general public terrorizing Republican voters before the election?

Also if the Republicans take the house back we can expect most of this bill to be repealed.

That being said, there's still money allotted for the Obamacare act, still on the books, that hasn't been spent yet .That's just how massive arbitrarily big these Bills are, they throw out such a huge number, they can't steal it all or find something to spend it on fast enough to get rid of it.

Darnit, I was curious to read it.
"Brother, can you spare a dime?"

clambo says

Darnit, I was curious to read it.
"Brother, can you spare a dime?"

But was it worth the price of admission?

I don't know I didn't pay for it.

Tenpoundbass says

Besides that, where in the hell are they going to find 87,000 capable people willing or capable of firing a pew pew shootie thing?

I dont think many need to carry a gun. Just some.

But 87k new auditors... not only will they have trouble filling the cubicles, but does anyones think they will go through all the trouble to hire and train, just to let them go in a few years? No way. This is probably mostly permanent. They'll audit the "evil rich" first, but then after a few years the tree will have all the acorns shook from it, then they'll move onto middle class audits.

Hircus says

They'll audit the "evil rich" first,

No, they will audit Republicans at all income levels. They have enough manpower to audit the evil rich already.

Hircus says

Tenpoundbass says

Besides that, where in the hell are they going to find 87,000 capable people willing or capable of firing a pew pew shootie thing?

I dont think many need to carry a gun. Just some.

But 87k new auditors... not only will they have trouble filling the cubicles, but does anyones think they will go through all the trouble to hire and train, just to let them go in a few years? No way. This is probably mostly permanent. They'll audit the "evil rich" first, but then after a few years the tree will have all the acorns shook from it, then they'll move onto middle class audits.

They have to train them on simple low income cases first. You don't sick a green agent onto complicated millionaires return without years of experience.

"It's not for small business"

IRS Training video Scenario, which mentions the new funding so you know it's recent, has armed IRS agents:

practicing display/use of deadly force against a contractor who can't show how he paid for a truck



Look at the massive size of some of these student agents, also. MASSIVE! You didn't see many people this heavy until their 50s or 60s not long ago

RedStar says

They have to train them on simple low income cases first.

Like Uber drivers, free-lance construction guys, and delivery drivers. Small time CPAs are going to see lots of new business from these folks terrorized of making a tax error.

I just use a straight-laced Asian accountant every year. He plays it by the book, but does seek out ways to save us taxes. Still, I figure the IRS doesn’t barely look at clients of this type of accountant. He’s signing off on all the forms and his reputation is solid so they just “take the win” and don’t audit any of his customers.
It’s kind of like audit insurance.
I’ve never been audited.

As I recall, Al Cappone was sent to the big house for Tax Evasion. The Treasury department (who oversee the IRS) has always had a law enforcement arm. The concern is that witu this steped up focus on enforcement l, they will start going after small business rather than big time corporations.

The millionars and billionaires can pay a team of laywers and accountants to keep the IRS off their back... or at least delay the process. Your average family buisness... not as much.

Frankly, I think we should abolish income taxes, and the IRS entirely. Think of the money we'd save!

GreaterNYCDude says

Frankly, I think we should abolish income taxes, and the IRS entirely. Think of the money we'd save!

I agree.

All income and sales taxes should be replaced with a Georgist land value tax.

https://patrick.net/post/1346922/2022-08-05-georgism-thread

Land cannot be hidden, so there would be no need for the IRS to exist. Nor would businesses need to tack on and track sales tax, or any government agency to investigate whether they are doing it right.

But of course this would limit federal government power, so the federal government would never agree to it.

Constituonaly, federal governmental power is or ought to be limited. It's reserved to the states or to the people themselves but we all know that.

I wonder if they teach civics in school anymore.

That said, we do need centralized government for some things (common defense for example).

Articles of confederation proved that a loose alliance of independent states dosen't work unless there is a central authority to bind them together.

RedStar says

Hircus says

Tenpoundbass says

Besides that, where in the hell are they going to find 87,000 capable people willing or capable of firing a pew pew shootie thing?

I dont think many need to carry a gun. Just some.

But 87k new auditors... not only will they have trouble filling the cubicles, but does anyones think they will go through all the trouble to hire and train, just to let them go in a few years? No way. This is probably mostly permanent. They'll audit the "evil rich" first, but then after a few years the tree will have all the acorns shook from it, then they'll move onto middle class audits.

They have to train them on simple low income cases first. You don't sick a green agent onto complicated millionaires return without years of experience.

The experienced person currently auditing simple cases will now audit more complicated cases. The newb takes his place auditing simple cases. Like in businesses, adding more peons frees the experienced employees to focus on the complicated. But even newbs can work on complicated cases. It's not like they assign 1 auditor per business - complicated returns are almost certainly handled by teams of experienced auditors, and a few peons for them to delegate their grunt work to.

The point is they will have greatly expanded audit capability, and can direct it where they please. They will focus the additional audit power on the rich for now. They "promised" not to audit more under 400k income people, and I just don't believe they'll significantly defy their promise in the immediate term. But in time I think they will, because the promise maker will be gone by then.

I saw a headline on a physical newspaper saying that the IRS removed the "willing to use deadly force" line from the job description.

IRS: Shoot identified malfeasors first, ask questions later, let Satan sort the dead, soak up all asset for the regime.