patrick.net

I'm still having trouble determining whether they knew the shot was harmful, and those in-the-know avoided it or got saline shots, or if they had no idea and were simply all in on getting public compliance, therefore damning themselves in the process.

I think there was a mix. I'd bet that Klaus Schwab knew that Ralph Baric had been experimenting for years with ways to induce myocarditis with the spike protein:

https://sagehana.substack.com/p/ralph-baric-was-researching-how-to

But I also think a lot of other politicians don't really understand that they are considered expendable, like Newsom. He took the real shot and got Bell's Palsy from it, lol.

And of course most Democrats will inject anything the "experts" tell them to, especially if they think it proves they are opposed to Trump. Even if the vaxx was developed under Trump. There's no logical thought there, only hate for Trump and especially for people who voted for Trump.

Anecdote. Had a co-worker who contracted COVID (symptomatic and tested) early this year. He was going to ride it out at home but daughter (who is a nurse) convinced him to go to hospital because his Blood Oxygen was low (measured with one of those little over the finger meters). Long story short they put him on Remdesivir and he went downhill quickly. He survived but was out for two weeks for what he thought would initially be a two day absence.

Fast forward a couple of months and our employer rolls out a new policy requiring us to 'adhere to client protocols' thus carefully avoiding any mandate except for the field force. We work in hospitals, who require vendors to be vaxxed. His daughter must have been red pilled in the interim. She was working at one of those drive up vax stations. My co-worker went there and she put the shot into his car seat. Apparently she did this for several of his friends (and also offered to do it for me as well). She went from true believer to felon within an 8 week period, but never spoke up for fear of losing her job. I consider her braver and smarter than most because she figured out how to subvert the system from within.

Never forget what these psychopaths and the non-thinking drones who make up your community did, and continue to do.

Karloff says

I'm still having trouble determining whether they knew the shot was harmful, and those in-the-know avoided it or got saline shots, or if they had no idea and were simply all in on getting public compliance, therefore damning themselves in the process.

Yes, but those in the know is a VERY exclusive club which doesn’t include almost everyone you’ve ever heard of. Here’s how I see it breaking down.
Politicians < party leaders < elites who pick politicians and thus control our government < true oligarchs who have their hooks into everyone and actually run the world. It’s only this last very tiny group that would have knowledge of the actual vax plot because they cooked it up. Yah they got the saline, but we won’t know much of anything about them. They had to have been planning this for years, perhaps even as long as a decade to make it go off like it did. World leaders around the first world had to be carefully groomed to do as they were told to get such a coordinated and uniform response to the pandemic. I mean this was worldwide. Any place worth a damn had a leader pushing the vax, sometimes at the threat of jail or job loss. And who could control ALL the leaders of every significant nation in the world? Find that out and you have your culprit.

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/AlbaumJ/status/1571027651401486336#m

Yaffa Shir-Raz
@YaffaRaz
Sep 1
🇮🇱In a leaked video, a research team commissioned by the Israeli MoH warns: "We’ll have to think medical-legal – how to present our findings to avoid lawsuits. Why? Because of quite a few side effects we said: 'OK, it exists and reports exist, BUT STILL GET VACCINATED'".

stfu says

She was working at one of those drive up vax stations. My co-worker went there and she put the shot into his car seat. Apparently she did this for several of his friends (and also offered to do it for me as well). She went from true believer to felon within an 8 week period, but never spoke up for fear of losing her job.

She's not putting the shot exclusively into car seats.

So, she's like "I think these shots are harming people, but I'm going to inject it into a car seat a few times, and people most of the time."

Everybody understand how previous mass killings have been carried out now?

jykiodfgr says

Death already occurred at the time of injection.

What the heck does that even mean?

GNL says

jykiodfgr says

Death already occurred at the time of injection.

What the heck does that even mean?

He's implying that anybody that took the covid shot has been poisoned, and that it will kill them.

I don't ascribe to this belief, but time will tell. I do know that the vaccines had no efficacy in combating the virus. I think this has been a psy-op. It's been an Asch Conformity Test. That's my current hypothesis.

On top of that, it's been lucrative, but chiefly, it was used to test the obedience of the population to unreasonable demands. I guess it's part Milgram Experiment as well. We're being psychologically tested.

I believe, ultimately, is we are being tested if we're ready for slavery yet.

richwicks says

GNL says

jykiodfgr says

Death already occurred at the time of injection.

What the heck does that even mean?

He's implying that anybody that took the covid shot has been poisoned, and that it will kill them.

I don't ascribe to this belief, but time will tell. I do know that the vaccines had no efficacy in combating the virus. I think this has been a psy-op. It's been an Asch Conformity Test. That's my current hypothesis.

On top of that, it's been lucrative, but chiefly, it was used to test the obedience of the population to unreasonable demands. I guess it's part Milgram Experiment as well. We're being psychologically tested.

I believe, ultimately, is we are being tested if we're ready for slavery yet.

Not a bad hypothesis. Not bad.

GNL says

richwicks says

GNL says

jykiodfgr says

Death already occurred at the time of injection.

What the heck does that even mean?

He's implying that anybody that took the covid shot has been poisoned, and that it will kill them.

I don't ascribe to this belief, but time will tell. I do know that the vaccines had no efficacy in combating the virus. I think this has been a psy-op. It's been an Asch Conformity Test. That's my current hypothesis.

On top of that, it's been lucrative, but chiefly, it was used to test the obedience of the population to unreasonable demands. I guess it's part Milgram Experiment as well. We're being psychologically tested.

I believe, ultimatel...

This will.not happen because then the crime will be out in the open. It's designed to likely kill enough but.not enough for peoelple to clearly see. It's a big mrna experiment where those getting maimed and killed are collateral damage. Maybe 1 in 100 to 1 in 1000 will die significantly earlier to become visible as jab death, but since we have aging populations everywhere and adolescents are generally more resistant, many people will fail to make a connection. It is on us to educate them.

Also if people switch to non mrna jabs such as novavax the spike protein injection is a one time finite amount likely without significant long term consequences if you get over the initial few days to weeks (it's SAE profile will be closer to traditional vaccines, maybe a bit worse). Mrna is the really deadly "tech".

jykiodfgr says

LOL no, the protein jab is just as deadly. What is dangerous is the spike protein appearing without the virus to go along with it in the bloodstream. Once it's there, you are as good as dead. The heart never heals, and the immune system will continue to attack it until you drop dead suddenly and effectively.

The s protein is produced in masses during covid infection (as it is part of the virus), yet nobody dies. It is mostly harmful in the blood stream, as it aids clotting. The problem with the mrna shots is that while they are aimed to be injected outside of the blood stream like every other jab, the mrna gets integrated into cells of critical organs and may produce s proteins in large quantities indefinitely, which eventually will be deadly for some. If you inject a finite amount of s proteins it is similar to a forced covid infection. That being said, if you don't aspire the needle and hit a blood vessel you're in trouble immediately. The side effects of the novavax shot will mimic the mrna ones for the first days/weeks, then it will be as safe as other traditional jabs. This doesn't mean you should take any covid jab for a mild illness, but it's important not to throw everything into the same bucket.

GNL says

What does "fully vaccinated" mean now?

There's no fully vaccinated for a flu bug. That's what covid is. You're going to get the flu. Covid is actually pretty minor. My mom has it now. All shots/vaccines as well. Would she have died without them? Highly unlikely.

I took a Puerto Rican history class as History was my major and it seemed intriguing. Most people don't know about this... https://www.history.com/news/birth-control-pill-history-puerto-rico-enovid

We've fucked around with medicine for centuries. Fake oversight. I don't trust any of it anymore besides stuff with 30-40 years proven efficacy. Most disease and viral issues were sanitary related. Water specifically. Then food. Then sex to be honest. Consumption and contact. Going to a grocery store will rarely, if ever get you infected with anything. It's generally lack of hygiene on the persons end.

Now we just throw drugs and vaccines at it. We already solved the worst part of early death and that's quality food and water.

jykiodfgr says

mell says

yet nobody dies

Not yet. wink

One thing I forgot to mention is that the mrna shots also weaken the immune system (through mechanisms unrelated to the s protein itself), the novavax shot doesn't (again doesn't mean one should take any jab since covid is a mild illness). So there is a vaids component that will be responsible for future deaths in the mrna jabbed. The s protein by itself gets flushed out during covid and is of little consequence. There will be no long term deaths from covid if you didn't get myocarditis during the acute phase. In fact one may want to acquire natural immunity in case there is another "accidental release" of an improved sars cov variant.

jykiodfgr says

Finally

Here's the live link for people to click:

https://gettr.com/user/covidbc

mell says

the novavax shot

The Novavax vaccine consists of multimeric spike protein nanoparticles. The spike protein in and of itself is toxic. Even the FDA called out the myocarditis and pericarditis risk of the Novavax vaccine. Of course, that may be due to Pfizer and Moderna payola money. Pay up, Novavax, you lame fucks!

mell says

The problem with the mrna shots is that while they are aimed to be injected outside of the blood stream like every other jab, the mrna gets integrated into cells of critical organs and may produce s proteins in large quantities indefinitely, which eventually will be deadly for some.

I'm not sure any injection can completely avoid the bloodstream.

Blood vessels branch down to capillaries everywhere in the body, so I think it's just a matter of how large a blood vessel you will hit.

But this tunnel vision focus on the spike protein is just bad science, driven by a centuries old assay technology - the neutralization assay. GIGO.

jykiodfgr says

What is dangerous is the spike protein

Ya, I cant be the only one who noticed that the jab and covid happen to have a large intersection of common negative side effects.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

mell says

the novavax shot

The Novavax vaccine consists of multimeric spike protein nanoparticles. The spike protein in and of itself is toxic. Even the FDA called out the myocarditis and pericarditis risk of the Novavax vaccine. Of course, that may be due to Pfizer and Moderna payola money. Pay up, Novavax, you lame fucks!

agreed on both, you should not inject the spike protein for a mild illness where the risk of developing myocarditis/clotting is lesser than the jab. The warning labels though - while justified - are pfister and murderna driven, I have no doubt their jabs are 100 to 1000 times deadlier.

Patrick says

mell says

The problem with the mrna shots is that while they are aimed to be injected outside of the blood stream like every other jab, the mrna gets integrated into cells of critical organs and may produce s proteins in large quantities indefinitely, which eventually will be deadly for some.

I'm not sure any injection can completely avoid the bloodstream.

Blood vessels branch down to capillaries everywhere in the body, so I think it's just a matter of how large a blood vessel you will hit.

agreed, that's why the best course is not to inject spike protein at all, if you happen to get covid at least you will acquire long lasting immunity for a short time of s protein in your body, mostly confined to the respiratory tract. But mrna is far worse at the ability to produce them in mass quantities gets transported into critical organs whereas a one time injection will immediately start the process of flushing them out.

jykiodfgr says

mell says

yet nobody dies

Not yet. wink

Putin killing Ukrainian draftees.

Yeah, 'bout that: are you going to show your homework on the numbers you posted in the relevant thread or we shall agree that you pulled them out of Konashenkov's ass?

We look with a jaundiced eye on any kind of state propaganda here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61hmUuSewSY

jykiodfgr says

"Protein" shot.

You shouldn't take any shot if you have preexisting heart problems, esp. not s protein containing ones. As mentioned, if you do, you will experience SAEs right away if it's a non mrna and non-viral-vector-dna shot. There is no lasting damage beyond that of any other vaccine from non mrna, non viral vector shots. In that respect the nvax shot is much safer than mrna/viral-vector dna

jykiodfgr says

ALL vaccines must be banned.

Most vaccines these days likely have higher risk than benefits, so I'd mostly agree with that, except for at risk groups and less than a handful carefully selected ones, such as polio, tetanus (not more than every 15 years), and maybe measles by itself (not mmr), hep b for certain at risk groups, and that's pretty much it.

jykiodfgr says

all of Western medicine will be banned.

Western medicine by itself is not bad, it did the most to better people's lives and increase longevity / life expectancy than any other medicine imo (compare middle-ages to today). It has been hi-jacked in the past 50-100 years though and therefore must be seriously reformed.

What is the main source of corruption in medicine now?

Maybe it's the centralized control of funding by psychopath mafia types like Fauci.

Or maybe it's regulatory capture of the FDA by Pfizer.

Patrick says

What is the main source of corruption in medicine now?

Maybe it's the centralized control of funding by psychopath mafia types like Fauci.

Or maybe it's regulatory capture of the FDA by Pfizer.

Always greed and money. Capitalism is the best system, but far from perfect. It started much earlier when MDs practices turned from research/prevention to "drive-through" fast-food type drug dispensaries, backed by pharma incentives. You make no money from keeping a patient healthy without drugs. Insurances should rewards MDs who take more time per appointment, thoroughly study they patients ailments and research cures and prevention, with and without drugs. Laws were put in place for all sectors to prevent regulatory capture and centralized control, but once the rule of law is weakened or abolished, all sectors are prone to the negative effects of capitalism. Believe it or not, and KD often talks about this and cites the sources, there are still enough of those laws in place even today to immediately disband certain corporations and arrest the perpetrators, lobbyists and management, but without anybody acting on it these laws are toothless.

mell says

without anybody acting on it these laws are toothless

Right, even massive coordinated and provable election fraud is completely ignored by the FBI, and in fact the FBI may well have had a hand in organizing it.

How do you fight corruption that is so systemic it has infected law enforcement?

Outside of emergency surgery and some earlier work on critical nutrition and sanitary issues, I think most modern medical practice had done more harm than good.

Eat good food, exercise, limit stress, positively engage with family and the world. That is what humans have been designed to do. The closer we adhere to our primordial operating specifications, the better we feel.

https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/how-about-died-instantly

https://www.realnotrare.com/

Posted before, but worth posting again.

Patrick says

https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/how-about-died-instantly

stereotomy says

Outside of emergency surgery and some earlier work on critical nutrition and sanitary issues, I think most modern medical practice had done more harm than good.

Eat good food, exercise, limit stress, positively engage with family and the world. That is what humans have been designed to do. The closer we adhere to our primordial operating specifications, the better we feel.

If you take the past 50-100 years I agree. But before that we made steady advances and had a somewhat decent balance between natural care and drugs. You don't want to travel back into the 1800s, 1700s or earlier, when people died of simple bacterial infections, pretty much any cancer, essential organ shutting down (no transplant surgery available), a hip fracture meant being crippled for the rest of life, usually with a fast overall decline etc. Said it before I think there are many data points that suggest that we reached at least a long lasting local peak in quality of life when the baby boomers were around midlife or before.

stereotomy says

Outside of emergency surgery and some earlier work on critical nutrition and sanitary issues, I think most modern medical practice had done more harm than good.

It's that last 50 years I really worry about. I think that the majority of medical revenue is now made from treating people who would have been fine if left alone. The "treatments" then cause new problems which really become medical emergencies.

There is a fundamental incentive to over-treat patients because it makes money while leaving them alone does not make money. How do you resolve that profoundly bad incentive? Ethics and the law are not working these days, so we need some other way to get incentives into alignment with the public good. It's a game-theory kind of problem.

Patrick says

What is the main source of corruption in medicine now?

Maybe it's the centralized control of funding by psychopath mafia types like Fauci.

Or maybe it's regulatory capture of the FDA by Pfizer.

I think insurance companies have done the most to fuck things up.

Insurance companies have a motive to prevent over-treatment, because:

1. they don't like the cost to themselves
2. they are aware that a lot of medical treatments result in damage requiring further treatment

I'm not a big fan of insurance companies, but their motives seem correctly aligned with the public interest in these respects.

https://www.westernjournal.com/report-king-charles-iii-learned-dying-queen-frantic-phone-call-everything-silent/?seyid=22135

Sounds like the Queen #DiedSuddenly

Patrick says

Insurance companies have a motive to prevent over-treatment, because:

1. they don't like the cost to themselves
2. they are aware that a lot of medical treatments result in damage requiring further treatment

I'm not a big fan of insurance companies, but their motives seem correctly aligned with the public interest in these respects.

Depends. Life insurance companies yes, they are interested in longevity and predictable death patterns. Health insurance companies not necessarily. With the rapid price inflation it becomes painful to pay out of pocket, even at a discount, which makes the health insurers the only game in town and control the MDs in collusion with big pharma. Sure they may pay inflated prices, but they always make record profits by hiking rates aggressively with the help of subsidies from the government (obummercare) and trapped employers, and they profit a lot by cutting out or capping the most expensive procedures/drugs and by people "dying suddenly" earlier than expected, saving themselves many years of having to pay for those patients elder care (the older you become the more expensive you become to the health insurance co.). They "love" the fraudci pfister and murderna death jabs. Life insurers are generally fair (of course always with calculating a small edge for profit, depending on the risks), health insurers are usually as crooked as big pharma.

jykiodfgr says

More than 250 million Americans will die shortly.

I don't think that's true.

I think it will be about 1% of those vaxxed, and that will take five years or more. Almost all will be classified as "natural causes" like clots and cancers. I'm just guessing based on reading statistics and articles all day.

But it's still an epic disaster and the largest crime against all of humanity ever committed.

mell says

they always make record profits by hiking rates aggressively with the help of subsidies from the government (obummercare) and trapped employers

This does bother me. Everyone is trapped by this mafioso cartel and forced to pay them one way or another.

Subsidizing anything always makes it more expensive.

My main suggestions for controlling prices:

All non-emergency medical prices must be agreed to in advance of treatment.
All emergency medical prices must be limited by law.

I wish these two principles were written into the Constitution.