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Tread lightly here Patrick. Covid is a fuck show along with the vaccine. But most vaccines are perfectly fine in my world. I got them, my wife got them and my kids got them. All healthy, not retarded or dead.

I'm going to cast blame as someone that doesn't know anyone that had a child that died from vaccine, it likely was parental fault. It's extremely difficult to kill a human without blunt force. You generally don't just die. A good friend and neighbor lost a kid to a bacterial infection at 3-4ish. I'll never say it to them, but it was their fault. 100%. They didn't get medical treatment when the signs were obvious. Legally it's not, but borderline murder in my world. Good people, just naive and didn't act.

I blame SIDS more on the medical community for not finding issues though, not vaccines. There'a a reason for the S in SIDS. The word "sudden" get the docs off the hook. Sure it could be a vaccine, but it's usually something a doc missed.

It's all business. My kid was born with one nut. They could obviously tell based off a basic scan. Instead they had us to an invasive procedure to "check" if it was there or not. A fucking MRI could have detected that. The medical industry is just that, an industry to make $$$$$$$$$$$.

I do trust the proven vaccines that have been around for 10+ years. Covid, fuck no.

Use of targeted plagues is centuries old. The psychopaths have never been able to resist deploying contagion. The problem has always been control and reducing unintended consequences (and not fucking yourself up in the bargain). One would surmise that the various PTB wouldn't be studying such things in high tech facilities if they never intended to use them.

There is no standard military use for bioweapons, they are not precision instruments used on a uniformed combatant enemy.

Deploying vaccines for nefarious purposes is a natural evolution for them, and could only have been done if they first established or exploited credibility. That credibility has seemingly been spent down, or they are only killing the people who are stupid enough to believe them while the survivors see exactly what they have done. Also, that credibility is not bottomless. They have wasted most of it on this Covid baloney, which shows the demented nature of their central planning.

The anti vaxxers have been around for a long time. Their train has come at last, but they don't always help because they can also contaminate the big picture with their various hysterias.

Also, everybody in law wants a piece of those billions and billions earned by the drug companies. I'm sure lawyers have had committees working to unravel the Pharma immunities for large class actions suits, and any premise will work that can get a sympathy verdict from juries.

WookieMan says

Tread lightly here Patrick. Covid is a fuck show along with the vaccine. But most vaccines are perfectly fine in my world. I got them, my wife got them and my kids got them. All healthy, not retarded or dead.

Sure, but people or forbidden from postulating on the sudden death of children.

If it's "crazy" to think that vaccines may be the culprit, why is discussion about it banned?

I can get on Facebook and Twitter and talk about the "flat earth" because that's obviously crazy, I'd just be ignored as a nutcase. But if I bring up the possibility that vaccines are in SOME instances deadly, I lose my account. Why do you think that is?

The VAST majority of people I know who took the clot shot are still alive. Does that mean they are safe?

When the establishment is eager to silence you, it's because you're correct, not because you're wrong.WookieMan says

I'm going to cast blame as someone that doesn't know anyone that had a child that died from vaccine, it likely was parental fault. It's extremely difficult to kill a human without blunt force. You generally don't just die. A good friend and neighbor lost a kid to a bacterial infection at 3-4ish. I'll never say it to them, but it was their fault. 100%. They didn't get medical treatment when the signs were obvious. Legally it's not, but borderline murder in my world. Good people, just naive and didn't act.

I know a guy that has a (now) 20 something year old kid. He claims his child was originally healthy and normal. He fell behind in the vaccination schedule and a doctor offered to get him up to date, so he gave his child a bunch of vaccinations at once. He believes this left his kid autistic.

Was his child autistic all along? Possibly.

The problem is people are forbidden to investigate things like this.

The risk of standard vaccinations probably outweigh the risk, but does it really make sense to get a POLIO vaccination now? They have chickenpox vaccinations - when I was a kid, my parents INTENTIONALLY infected me with chickenpox - some kid developed it, there was a "party" where all the kids met up, and I caught it. It was pretty miserable as I recall, but I got over it. Chickenpox isn't a huge deal as a 4 year old kid, but it's apparently very dangerous to a 20 year old.

Actually that is quite likely and not surprising. The onslaught of vaccinations according to "schedule' obviously increases the likelihood of death as each vax has a rare chance of killing or maiming/damaging the infant. It's also likely that for quite a few of those diseases the likelihood of maiming or dying from the jab is higher than the likelihood of contracting it and getting maimed by it. Besides polio, tetanus and rsv I don't know which other ones are really necessary. If and once your kid goes to a daycare then maybe it's time to get a few more. 99% of bacterial infections do not have a vaccine and are probably overall more dangerous to kids than viruses.

richwicks says

Sure, but people or forbidden from postulating on the sudden death of children.

I said tread lightly, not to not discuss it. There are bigger factors than vaccines, put it that way. Generally it's the mom during pregnancy. Full on anti vax people are bat shit crazy. And for the site I wouldn't like to see that element here, but that's out of my control.

Fact is women will drink, smoke (many things), eat like shit, etc. Age of pregnancy is also a factor. I'd blame that before vaccines. But that would be sexist. Then maybe get into the vaccine discussion. Fact is most women are not going to admit to doing stupid shit during pregnancy. Took me 4 times to quit smoking. Drink nightly, say two glasses of wine? Good luck quitting that habit.

Also who knows what the mans sperm does if they're on drugs and stuff. Same with the mom being on big pharma bull shit. You've got to start with the source before blaming something once the kid is out of the womb.

richwicks says

I know a guy that has a (now) 20 something year old kid. He claims his child was originally healthy and normal. He fell behind in the vaccination schedule and a doctor offered to get him up to date, so he gave his child a bunch of vaccinations at once. He believes this left his kid autistic.

What was the age of mass vaccination? Remember too that kids do stupid shit, even young ones. My kids are older now, but when I'd go to peers homes with little kids, everything had to be locked up. Every single kitchen cabinet. Who knows if they drank some drain-o and mom and dad didn't know about and they didn't die. There are plenty of things that kids can get into.

Also many parents have vices you wouldn't know. A 60lbs kid eats 3-4, 10mg gummies. Gets a hold of dad's acid. For vaccines to be a major variable in SIDS or autism is a bit far fetched. There would be plenty of data to correlate that. Parents/adults/moms play the blame game if their child is "off" or there is SIDS. Vaccines are an easy target. No parent will admit fault when something goes south. None.

That said, Covid vaccines are NOT going in my kids ever. We don't do flu vaccines. You're going to get that shit, as in sickness. I know people that get the flu damn near every year and take the vaccine. It's a racket. I've just never bought that it could kill you or make you autistic. Just like with Covid deaths, there likely was some other underlying issue. Question it, fine. I just don't think there's evidence your standard vaccines hurt people above a 10 in 1M chance. Again, likely caused by other defect in the person/mother.

“ SIDS deaths — which by definition affect children who are normal and healthy — and sudden unexplained deaths in children over age 1 typically occur in close temporal proximity to vaccination, with nine out of 10 SIDS deaths following two- and four-month “well-baby” visits.”

What is wrong with waiting a couple years to start all these vaccinations? Babies are tiny and fragile and stuff that an older child can shrug off will kill them. Sure it’s rare, but have you seen a new mother deathly afraid her baby will suddenly die in his crib? Billions in baby monitors are bought every year to “prevent” this sort of thing while instances of such prevention are almost nonexistent. If a link as strong as this can be found between vaccination of babies and their sudden deaths, perhaps it would be safer to wait until they’re somewhat older to begin jabbing them full of pathogens.

https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/why-im-an-abolitionist

Across multiple studies, Dr. Aaby found that children vaccinated with DTP have 5 times higher (95% CI: 1.53–16.3) all-cause mortality than children who were not injected with DTP. He and his team also found sex effects — girls were more likely to die following DTP vaccination than boys.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/positive-association-between-vaccine-related-aluminum-exposure-and-persistent-asthma-cdc-funded-study_4775859.html?utm_source=share-btn-copylink

‘Positive Association’ Between Vaccine-Related Aluminum Exposure and Persistent Asthma: CDC-Funded Study...

Results of the observational study showed that children who were vaccinated with most or all of the recommended aluminum-containing vaccines (>3.00 mg aluminum exposure) had at least a 36 percent higher risk of being diagnosed with persistent asthma than kids who got fewer vaccines (≤3.00 mg aluminum exposure).

About 6 percent of the children with eczema and 2.1 percent of the children without eczema developed persistent asthma in the study. Each additional milligram of vaccine-related aluminum exposure was associated with 1.26- and 1.19-times higher rates of persistent asthma among children with and without eczema, respectively.

Patrick says

Anyone, especially you programmer guys hear him talk (Gates)? He sounds retarded himself. Mentally ill. He figured out a thing copied from others via Microsoft but he's not mentally stable. The guy is a fucking lune. Has ZERO medical background. Is pulling a Jobs(esk) move and just telling people what to do because he has money. And people are dumb and listen. Unfortunately it's not with chips and computers anymore, it's human life. The guy has no business talking ANYTHING medical. He should slip on a Grand Canyon tour at the top... and land at the bottom. He's a cancer on humanity really.

Patrick says

@Patrick - can you supply the url for this photo?

@GNL Sure, it took about 20 seconds of searching:

https://nationalpost.com/health/more-polio-cases-currently-caused-by-vaccines-than-the-wild-virus-who-report

Just search for the words in the title.

Patrick says

@GNL Sure, it took about 20 seconds of searching:

https://nationalpost.com/health/more-polio-cases-currently-caused-by-vaccines-than-the-wild-virus-who-report

Just search for the words in the title.

My bad. I do appreciate it though.

Patrick says

I am suspecting now that it must have been poisonous as lot of country people really died and had side effects in "trials" in India few years ago to a level that it was hard to hide in the media.

Patrick says

These graphs question the validity of the vaccines as we know them today - meaning, we need to take another look and revalidate the need for these vaccines.

The two statements that cannot be dismissed are these:

1. "Death from Common Infectious Diseases Declined 90% before vaccines were introduced"
2. "Due to Sanitation and clean water systems."

As an aside, look at the problems we are having currently from flesh eating bacteria because untreated sewage is thrown into the oceans. Why are we not building water treatment plants?

The_Deplorable

The_Deplorable says

Patrick says

These graphs question the validity of the vaccines as we know them today - meaning, we need to take another look and revalidate the need for these vaccines.

This can be misleading in that vaccine drives are done OUT of a pandemic. This is the first time EVER that vaccinating into a pandemic has been done. The idea is to inoculate the population to prevent future outbreaks.

Be careful with data you find. I know it's tempting to conclude "vaccines do nothing", but an isolated country that has gone from no vaccines to vaccination is what needs to be studied.

it's a problem when you corrupt medical practice to this extent. There were already class actions alleging problems with vaccines, vaccines that were likely beneficial under the 'old paradigm' that public health was about reducing death and morbidity rather than as conduits to political rape. There's a whole movement around the class actions, possibly with secondary gain obfuscation.

So, when the Globalist eugenicists and psychopaths have polluted the concept of vaccines as a pathway to poison the human race useless eaters, establish political control, eliminate human rights and induce sterility etc. (Gates in Africa and India) it has only made things worse.

The Mengeles have been plotting against the population continuing the Nazi shit since WWII. The yearly pandemic scare with lab manufactured pathogens has been a rite of passage since 1960's, as if there weren't enough natural pathogens to go around. There was an article recently from India that said they found toxins in sanitary napkins sold in India.

Unfortunately, you can probably bet your last nickel now that they have been analyzing every route of access into the human body to accomplish their goals i.e. air, water, food, tampons, cotton swabs, lotions, deodorants, perfume, makeup, on and on, just like the Joker in the Batman movie. What better way to sterilize women than to put biologic agents into tampons?

In addition to walk away poisons like mRNA, they have probably spent time working on conjunctive poisons i.e. substances that may have limited effectiveness when taken in isolation, but when coming together, can cause a severe reaction or carcinogenesis.

The agencies charged with public health and protection have been turned to promote the opposite for agendas and profit.

Latest seems that the incessant PCR fake tests are being used to harvest and study DNA. If done through hospitals or medical facilities, the PCR tests would be tagged to patient charts. They aren't losing the opportunity to study their lab rats with the vaccines right down to the DNA it appears.

Now it seems to make sense that Kaiser sent us documents and tried to sucker punch is into waiving our HIPAA rights. That absolutely astounded me, not that we actually have privacy of medical records any more, anyway.

Fuck those flu vaxes

The conclusion I reach by looking at the above graphs is that vaccines did not cause the collapse of those infectious diseases but the introduction of clean/safe water along with good sanitation practices.

Today we abandoned good sanitation practices by discharging untreated sewage into the oceans and that is why we are having the deadly Flesh Eating Bacteria that can kill within 24 hours.

The data we have suggest that the Covid vaccines are causing thousands of deaths and injuries and that the so-called SADS - Sudden Adult Death Syndrome - is caused by these illegal, untested and experimental vaccines. Illegal because we have proven medications that cure Covid within hours. These medications include Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and Ivermectin with hundreds of medical studies proving that they cure Covid within hours.

One of the earliest victims of the Covid vaccine is Tiffany Dover - a critical care nurse at the Catholic Memorial Hospital in Chattanooga, Tennessee - who fainted on live television on December 17, 2020 after receiving the Pfizer vaccine. And we never saw Tiffany Dover again - she has been missing for the last two years while the powers that be pretend that she is still alive!

My take is that Tiffany Dover is one major reason why Ivermectin is right now an over the counter medication in Tennessee.

The above generate new questions: Is the Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) caused by the vaccines?

How about Autism? Autism took off on a vertical starting in the 1970s.

The only thing in common with SADS, SIDS and Autism are the vaccines. That is why we need to reevaluate the need for these vaccines ASAP.

The Deplorable

https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/kaiser-family-foundation-vaccine

In summary, the COVID-19 mass vaccination program has backfired and eroded confidence in the routine childhood vaccine schedule and fueled resistance to school vaccine mandates. As more safety data emerge on COVID-19 vaccines, this giant shift towards vaccine choice can be expected to intensify. Where there is any risk, there must be choice.

Patrick says

https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/kaiser-family-foundation-vaccine

In summary, the COVID-19 mass vaccination program has backfired and eroded confidence in the routine childhood vaccine schedule and fueled resistance to school vaccine mandates. As more safety data emerge on COVID-19 vaccines, this giant shift towards vaccine choice can be expected to intensify. Where there is any risk, there must be choice.

We (wifey and yours truly) are not going to put ANY other vaccine in our kids after what we have learned from COVID.

The anti vaxxers have been right all along.

The same playbook has been used since the 80's. SIDS was gaslighting for vaccine injuries just like SADS is today.

Patrick says

Where there is any risk, there must be choice.

Amen brother!

https://darbyshaw.substack.com/p/are-pet-vaccines-safe-and-effective

Because of the Covid-19 vaccine scandal, many people are waking up to the stark reality that vaccines labeled “safe and effective” often are anything but. More Americans than ever before are beginning to question the wisdom of blindly following the advice of self-proclaimed experts on not just the Covid-19 vaccines but all vaccines, for humans as well as animals. ...

From the American Journal of Veterinary Research (2004):

“Because the CRFK cell line is derived from a feline kidney tissue preparation, administration of FVRCP vaccines to cats could induce antibodies that also bind to feline renal tissues.” 16

In other words, cats receiving the FVRCP vaccine might develop autoimmune kidney disease as a result.

Apparently, this possibility deterred no one. The vaccine was never re-formulated to eliminate the likelihood of contamination with CRFK cell proteins. Nor does it appear that regulators ever seriously consider pulling it from the market.

Meanwhile, pet owners are continually assured that this vaccine is safe and effective.

So, to recap, it has been known for decades that the universally recommended and widely administered vaccine for feline distemper likely contains cell proteins with the potential to cause CKD in cats. While no one knows exactly how common CKD is because the necessary studies have not been published, scientists have recognized for many years that this disease is prevalent in cats and that the numbers are on the rise.

https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/how-much-money-do-pediatricians-really

So how much money do doctors really make from vaccines? The average American pediatrician has 1546 patients, though some pediatricians see many more. The vast majority of those patients are very young, perhaps because children transition to a family physician or stop visiting the doctor at all as they grow up. As they table above explains, Blue Cross Blue Shield pays pediatricians $400 per fully vaccinated child. If your pediatrician has just 100 fully-vaccinated patients turning 2 this year, that’s $40,000. Yes, Blue Cross Blue Shield pays your doctor a $40,000 bonus for fully vaccinating 100 patients under the age of 2. If your doctor manages to fully vaccinate 200 patients, that bonus jumps to $80,000.

But here’s the catch: Under Blue Cross Blue Shield’s rules, pediatricians lose the whole bonus unless at least 63% of patients are fully vaccinated, and that includes the flu vaccine. So it’s not just $400 on your child’s head–it could be the whole bonus. To your doctor, your decision to vaccinate your child might be worth $40,000, or much more, depending on the size of his or her practice.

"Sorry your kid died, but think of the $80,000 I got!"

The_Deplorable says

The conclusion I reach by looking at the above graphs is that vaccines did not cause the collapse of those infectious diseases but the introduction of clean/safe water along with good sanitation practices.

That's about the best and shortest summary you could have. I'd add on the suburban movement. Basically not living on top of each other as the primary place people HAD to live in. 3-5 story structures that could have 25 people living in them and many times using the same bathroom/shitter. Not showering daily. Entire families sharing a room or two. Not talking apartment, but literally two 10x7 rooms.

Check out old census data and it's fucking hysterical how many people were in one property in Chicago. I've done a couple hundred hours of research on buildings in Chicago to determine if they were a 2 or 3 unit for example. The difference in modern time is hundreds of thousands in value if you could prove it was 3 units. Talking hand written census records. Fact is even with sewer and water, there were potentially 30-40 people living in your typical Chicago 2-4 flat. Not a chance in hell you're stopping the spread of stuff in that environment.

Another reason to get the fuck out of cities unless you have a single family home which is likely $1M+ in any major city. Not worth it to live so close to someone you can piss out your window and get it in your neighbors toilet through their window.

https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/dissolving-my-vaxxed-illusions

Are you saying the vaccines work or was the trend declining before the vaccine and may have gone away on it's own Patrick?

I ultimately think it was the proper containment and disposal of shit looking at the graphs. Sewer systems. Shit was just simply dumped into the water source as The Deplorable says. WWII seems to be the turning point. We realized what we could do as a country. Invest in infrastructure whether it be highways or sewers.

I'm vaccinated with the 1983 vaccines above, but no interest ever in getting the covid or any flu shot. I've only had IV's as far as needles since I was 19 when I was drunk lit a fire with gas and burned myself relatively badly. 3rd degree burns on legs and arms. Balloon sized blisters. Surprisingly no long term skin defects mostly. Money maker was saved, my face.

That was the last time I was injected with anything non-IV. I was still drunk and the nurse was fucking hot. She was flirty too, but that was peak Wookie. The only time I've taken a needle to the butt cheek. She figured I was in pain and shot me up with something. I wasn't in pain at all, ever. Having a good looking nurse take your pants off is nice. Went back bandaged up and continued to party. I have a high pain threshold apparently.

Think I might need hip and shoulder surgery. Both are getting to the what the fuck level pain. I've mentioned I don't take pain killers. Gonna try physical therapy. I think decade long tested vaccines do work, but in conjunction with better hygiene and sanitation. Few from 2023 could survive in the conditions of 1900.

WookieMan says

Think I might need hip and shoulder surgery.

Getting old sucks. It wasn't in the brochure.

stfu says

WookieMan says

Think I might need hip and shoulder surgery.

Getting old sucks. It wasn't in the brochure.

Would you prefer to get old or die young? Not everyone gets to live to old age you know.