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Did they use thermite?

So, just to be clear from how the rest of the world views this.

Intentionally attacking infrastructure is against the rules of war. Ukraine violated this rule. Hence, Russia is now free to destroy Ukraine's infrastructure.

Nothing good will come from this.

Misc says

Ukraine violated this rule. Hence, Russia is now free to destroy Ukraine's infrastructure.

And bombing of ukie cities in last 6 months is not attacing infrastructure...

Bd6r says

Misc says

Ukraine violated this rule. Hence, Russia is now free to destroy Ukraine's infrastructure.

And bombing of ukie cities in last 6 months is not attacing infrastructure...

No, Russia made sure not to target infrastructure. It had military targets. Hence, the power is still on in Kiev. Any civilian deaths were also incidental.

Misc says

No, Russia made sure not to target infrastructure. It had military targets.

Bless your heart: https://twitter.com/Lyla_lilas/status/1578897816503881730

Misc says

, Russia made sure not to target infrastructure. It had military targets. Hence, the power is still on in Kiev. Any civilian deaths were also incidental.

Have you looked at any pictures of Mariupol? Please do before typing nonsense.

Misc says

the power is still on in Kiev.

Somebody is still believing in the omnipotent Russian military? Living under a rock for 8 months might do it for you....

PS. Kyiv is covered with best IADS Ukraine could muster. The power is still on because Pukin can't do anything about it.

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PS. Oh, noooo, it's NYT!!!! Get the fuck out of here with this crap!!!!

Hugh_Mongous says

Bless your heart:

Sadly, PutinDickSuucking has blinded some patnetters to the point they are not able to comprehend reality and cant use image search on their favorite search engines
Reminds me of those who are for vaxxing despite much evidence to contrary

WookieMan says

So Europe freezes. Fuck them. What has Europe done for the USA?

It's allowed our government to run rogue for the last 22 years. That's what they've done. That's what the European GOVERNMENTS have done.

I think Europe is run by a bunch of traitors with citizens as the victims. Same as my nation.

WookieMan says

Also, that bridge looks like pure shit construction as well. We've had our share of bridge issues in the US, but usually it's because they're 50 years plus old. That thing looks like it was built in the 60's but is only 4 years old....

That's during its construction. It's not completed in that picture. They built it in less than 4 years and started 2 years after Crimea became part of Russia again. It's more symbollic than necessary.

Bd6r says

Have you looked at any pictures of Mariupol? Please do before typing nonsense.

Mariupol has been bombed by Kiev for the last 8 years.

Bd6r says

Misc says

, Russia made sure not to target infrastructure. It had military targets. Hence, the power is still on in Kiev. Any civilian deaths were also incidental.

Have you looked at any pictures of Mariupol? Please do before typing nonsense.

Russia knew that the defenders were going to use the city's buildings as a defense against its forces. That is why Russia allowed civilians a secure passage out of the city before commencing attacks. It is not Russia that caused the losses it was the Ukrainian forces hiding in the city that caused the destruction. Russia would have preferred the Ukrainians to come out of the city to fight, but the Ukrainians demurred.

Overall, Russia has been following the rules of war quite well. There have been incidents of war crimes by individual Russian soldiers, bur nothing ordered from the top.

richwicks says

Mariupol has been bombed by Kiev for the last 8 years.

You show your complete lack of knowledge yet again. Perhaps it is better to shut up and learn something before spouting idiotic nonsence.
Mariupol was under Ukraine from 2014 to March or April of 2022.

Misc says

It is not Russia that caused the losses it was the Ukrainian forces hiding in the city that caused the destruction.

Sure, ukrainians shelled themselves

Bd6r says

richwicks says

Mariupol has been bombed by Kiev for the last 8 years.

You show your complete lack of knowledge yet again. Perhaps it is better to shut up and learn something before spouting idiotic nonsence.
Mariupol was under Ukraine from 2014 to March or April of 2022.

All you did was say I was ignorant, and you never identified how I was incorrect.

Insults mean nothing. If you can't explain how I'm wrong, and you're correct, it just means you're wrong, and you're pissed off I'm pointing out you're wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariupol#2014_fighting

It takes SECONDS to look stuff up today. Wikipedia won't connect the pieces, and when they lie, they lie in favor of our guberment. It's just about effortless to know what is going on today, if you want to know what is going on today. It's been attacked since 2014, since the "Revolution of Dignity" which was previously "the Maidan Revolution" which was really the US coup.

Propagandists keep fucking up in their tangled web of lies, so they keep changing terms. This is why the Mujahideen is now known as the Taliban. It's why it's Kyiv instead of Kiev. That's how you know they are lying, they will do everything to confuse you. Vaccinations no longer prevent illnesses, pandemics now include the flu and the cold. What gets me, is you still are reluctant to question them.

Just question them. You're not stupid for being fooled, but don't think I'm stupid for NOT being fooled. I'm used to this game, and sick of it.

When the government starts changing terms, they only do this to lie to you. Where did the "moderate rebels" come from in Syria? Who ever heard of the White Helmets before? Our government called them the Syrian Defense Forces for a bit, but Syria already had this. Remember ISIS? Now it's ISIL. It's constant shifting and changing of the game, and it's constant and annoying.

richwicks says

Bd6r says

Have you looked at any pictures of Mariupol? Please do before typing nonsense.

Mariupol has been bombed by Kiev for the last 8 years.

I think you have Mariupol confused with another city. That is directed at richwicks.

Bd6r says

Misc says

It is not Russia that caused the losses it was the Ukrainian forces hiding in the city that caused the destruction.

Sure, ukrainians shelled themselves

Instead of slinking around the city, they could have surrendered at any point. They chose to fight in the city.

Misc says

I think you have Mariupol confused with another city. That is directed at richwicks.

No, I do not:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariupol#2014_fighting

Already pointed it out. Got to go into history with anything that is a target of US propaganda too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mariupol&oldid=749114782#Current_conflict

Notice how the terms change. It was the "Ukrainian revolution" back then.

Here's another thing to notice. Go the history page on Mariupol today:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mariupol&action=history

Notice how many updates there are in this year. Same thing happened with Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton. Wikipedia is totally infiltrated, but they don't (yet) delete history - not yet, but they will.

Misc says

rules of war

No such thing.

Onvacation says

Misc says

rules of war

No such thing.

Yes, there is. Hence, Biden exclaiming at the start of hostilities that Putin was a "WAR CRIMINAL" had a certain meaning. Biden has since stopped that hyperbole, and even the Western press has stopped calling for a war crimes trial against Putin. The US has even refrained from calling Russia a sponsor of State terrorism (the ones in charge told Zelensky to go pound sand on that one).

Misc says

Onvacation says

Misc says

rules of war

No such thing.

Yes, there is. Hence, Biden exclaiming at the start of hostilities that Putin was a "WAR CRIMINAL" had a certain meaning. It meant Putin has violated the rules of war. Biden has since stopped that hyperbole, and even the Western press has stopped calling for a war crimes trial against Putin. The US has even refrained from calling Russia a sponsor of State terrorism (the ones in charge told Zelensky to go pound sand on that one).

Misc says

Onvacation says

Misc says

rules of war

No such thing.

Yes, there is. Hence, Biden exclaiming at the start of hostilities that Putin was a "WAR CRIMINAL" had a certain meaning.

No there isn't. There's no rules to war or war criminals.

If there were, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Mitt Romney, John McCain, John Kerry and a whole lot of other people would be dead. They would have been executed.

Julian Assange is going to die in prison because he demonstrated there are no war crimes that punished.

We're run by a criminal syndicate, not a government.

Misc says

Misc says

Onvacation says

Misc says

rules of war

No such thing.

Yes, there is. Hence, Biden exclaiming at the start of hostilities that Putin was a "WAR CRIMINAL" had a certain meaning. It meant Putin has violated the rules of war. Biden has since stopped that hyperbole, and even the Western press has stopped calling for a war crimes trial against Putin. The US has even refrained from calling Russia a sponsor of State terrorism (the ones in charge told Zelensky to go pound sand on that one).

there is also “rules based world”, but rules noone seen or heard of ever. one of the rules has to be along the lines of US overthrowing Ukrainian government via a coup is good. another is castrating kids for profit is good. and faggots can’t be criticized. all rules are subject to fetishes of elites.

Just because people die in a conflict, doesn't mean that the people involved or the leaders of those people are war criminals.

Here's a little light reading to enhance knowledge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions

Misc says

Just because people die in a conflict, doesn't mean that the people involved or the leaders of those people are war criminals.

The United States in war always destroyed infrastructure and engages in outright terrorism. What do you think "Shock and Awe" was? It was to get the population to capitulate.

The US engages in torture which we KNOW doesn't fucking work, it just gets some hapless asshole to confess to anything to get the torture to stop, it's used for propaganda purposes, it doesn't gain any intelligence. The US did 9/11 and tortured those they needed to torture to implicate binLaden.

That's our government now.

Misc says

So, just to be clear from how the rest of the world views this.

Intentionally attacking infrastructure is against the rules of war. Ukraine violated this rule. Hence, Russia is now free to destroy Ukraine's infrastructure.

Nothing good will come from this.

Putin put all the naysayers to my arguments in their place.

Additionally, Putin showed considerable restraint in the number of attacks launched against the Ukrainian infrastructure. The attacks were a "measured" response to the terrorist attack that the Ukraine mounted.

You can root for the underdog, but if you're gonna put down money bet on the winner.

WookieMan says

If the bridge is down for a month

It was repaired almost instantly:

https://www.dailysabah.com/world/europe/crimea-bridge-reopens-after-bridge-explosion

Misc says

response to the terrorist attack that the Ukraine mounted

Putin misused the word "terrorist" here.

https://patrick.net/post/1288988/2016-02-06-definition-of-terrorism

Patrick says

Misc says

response to the terrorist attack that the Ukraine mounted

Putin misused the word "terrorist" here.

https://patrick.net/post/1288988/2016-02-06-definition-of-terrorism

Terrorism isn't the deliberate murder of random people. Terrorism is the trying to force the population into a political decision by inciting terror in the population.

Antifa and BLM engaged in terrorism. Shock and Awe was terrorism. The government labeling parents that object to school curriculum as "terrorists" is terrorism. The threat of nuclear war with Russia is terrorism. Our government engages and promotes terrorism as long as it is in their interests.

waiting on our government to redefine nuclear apocalypse as victory, we good at redefining failure in positive light lately.

Patrick says

It was repaired almost instantly:

I didn't read the link. Fine if they're driving on it. Doesn't mean it won't go to shit and collapse.

I presume you've been to a 2nd or 3rd world country? Roads and infrastructure are something I and my wife know. There's no way that bridge is stable. They just fucking need the thing open at this point. Doesn't mean it's remotely safe. Shit, we had a major interstate in Minnesota crumble over the Mississippi and that didn't even get bombed. As usual it's propaganda. It literally could have just been retarded Russians that mishandled explosives during war time as well.

The photos I've seen of that bridge, the structural integrity is absolute shit on the deck. I wouldn't drive over it with or without war.

WookieMan says

Patrick says

It was repaired almost instantly:

I didn't read the link. Fine if they're driving on it. Doesn't mean it won't go to shit and collapse.

I presume you've been to a 2nd or 3rd world country? Roads and infrastructure are something I and my wife know. There's no way that bridge is stable. They just fucking need the thing open at this point. Doesn't mean it's remotely safe. Shit, we had a major interstate in Minnesota crumble over the Mississippi and that didn't even get bombed. As usual it's propaganda. It literally could have just been retarded Russians that mishandled explosives during war time as well.

The photos I've seen of that bridge, the structural integrity is absolute shit on the deck. I wouldn't drive over it with or without war.

I'm amazed at how much you think you know about every topic in the world. Now you're an engineer?