patrick.net

paywall, but interesting read on how society changed. or maybe it was always like that. in middle east they have harems for successful men, since ancient times.

Elon has a de-facto harem in spite of the laws. Even slept with Sergei Brin's wife.

Patrick says

Elon has a de-facto harem in spite of the laws. Even slept with Sergei Brin's wife.

I see that as a Alpha behavior.

Elon must spread his seed! He is practicing panspermia without the space travel!

Many rock or pop concerts I have been to, there is groupie action of some kind. You see women handing keys to the performers onto the stage. One rocker at the Boardwalk concerts even announced one of his groupie regulars in the area, who screamed at him from the audience she was eager 'to get balls on her chin'.

Everybody knows that the female aphrodisiacs are fame, money, power and status. I would also add drug scores to that. It isn't that often that they just go out for physical release. It happens, just not that often.

A friend in Santa Cruz when he was stationed in the Navy said there was a dedicated phone line to the enlisted men's hangout in Corpus Christi. He asked what it was, and it was a 'zipless fuck' line where local women would call to pull up in a car to get dogged by young service men. If you answered, you could go out to her car and get laid. He claimed he didn't answer himself, but I suspect he is lying. I don't know what kind of women you could expect from such an experience.

Ceffer says

the female aphrodisiacs are fame, money, power and status

Doesn't work without confidence though.

LOL! I have fame, money, power and status, but I just can't score because I have no confidence.

I remember once a girl telling me she liked me because I was so confident, which surprised me because I never thought I was, more of a worry wart. Maybe I was confident compared to her.

#1 aphrodisiac for women is fame.

You can debate money, power, looks, and everything else after that.

Sorry for my super dumb question. what’s the ballpark percentage of cases one (male or female) can be evaluated without sex involved in dating before coming to conclusion that it’s a good match to go ahead and marry.

Blue says

Sorry for my super dumb question. what’s the ballpark percentage of cases one (male or female) can be evaluated without sex involved in dating before coming to conclusion that it’s a good match to go ahead and marry.

Western Civ hasn't done this in generations. Ask based people in South Asia.

This is not a sarcastic remark.

AmericanKulak says

Blue says

Sorry for my super dumb question. what’s the ballpark percentage of cases one (male or female) can be evaluated without sex involved in dating before coming to conclusion that it’s a good match to go ahead and marry.

Western Civ hasn't done this in generations. Ask based people in South Asia.

This is not a sarcastic remark.

I'm a Christian, I'm somewhat bias. That being said I believe Focus on the Family has some pretty good research on the issue.
https://www.focusonthefamily.com/marriage/premarital-sex-and-greater-risk-of-divorce/

Yes, WOMEN who are sexually active before marriage are involved in divorce more often.

Note, the study says women, not men. In fact all three of four that specifically mention women, it was women's premartial promiscuity that endangers marriage.

Very, very few Churches deal honestly and openly with the plain reading of Paul's recommendations these days.

Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.

(The next verse, that men should AGAPE their wives, is translated as "Love" in English since our language is poor in breadth of love. Greek Agape is discriminatory love, the affection of desire for wellbeing that a teacher for a student or a caretaker for his flock involving making choices on their behalf and disciplining them when necessary. Maitrī would be the Indian Civilization equivalent - "Lovingkindness". It is not Chivalric Love, oh my beauty, I shall take every star from the sky for you, I hope my forgetfulness of the trash removal last week shall not ban me from thou bed, my head shall hit the floor 7x7 for my blind devotion to your beauty and grace)

And, that women - all women - are not to instruct men.

Our problem is gynocentrism, not equality or remnants of Patriarchy.

I had a Mormon female employee in the day. They are relentless converters, but I did enjoy hanging out with her husband and sons. They tried to sell me on the sex angle, and the employee showed me their bedroom, which was decked out like a Victorian whore house, it was hilarious, mirrors on the ceiling, everything but the velvet swing. The message was, that if we became Mormons, my wife would then become a totally subservient sex vessel to me by religious default, it was a strange selling point.

However, when her son became a missionary, we went to the Mormon services, which lasted HOURS and HOURS, with people mostly just sitting around and children running all over the place screaming. Coming from staid and ritualized Catholic masses with a beginning, a middle and an end, it was really strange.

Mormons tend to wed early and start popping out the kids. Marriage is nearly mandatory. I don't know what their general policies are to random fuckaciousness or pre marital sex, though. I don't think they are that strict.

How to sleep with lots of womyn:

Blue says

Sorry for my super dumb question. what’s the ballpark percentage of cases one (male or female) can be evaluated without sex involved in dating before coming to conclusion that it’s a good match to go ahead and marry.

I read a book on statistics once that claimed that the optimal number of women to date before proposing is six, assuming that you cannot go backwards and change your mind about previous ones. After the sixth one, you should accept the first woman after that who is better than the previous six.

The argument made lots of assumptions, but seemed pretty clear to me at the time.

2 n half men charlie had good advice. You pay to get rid of women after sex. Women,almost all, act up n cause headaches if u break up with them. Best to tell them u lost job n have no money. They will break up with you. Act as if you were sad to lose her.

If u r 6 ft , famous , or rich u can get lot of women. 90 percent want top10% men. Rest of the people have to work towards getting one.

My Guage for women is get to know them 6 months and see if i can handke them when they are angry. See if you can handle when they are on their period. Besides sex , you have to deal with her about 23 hrs.

Around age of 26 women tend to look for husband type man who is relatively handsone. Around 30 they want man who has job so they can marry n have kids fast. 35 aged women will marry anyone but her looks will be done so I doubt men would marry.

Bd6r says

"How to sleep with lots of womyn:"
How about the "Musk" men's fragrance? Probably smells like that 230 billion.

Patrick says

After the sixth one, you should accept the first woman after that who is better than the previous six.

Not sure, if there is any co-relation that once I read. Generally most folks choose wrong one if the choices are given more than around 6.

KgK one says

2 n half men charlie had good advice. You pay to get rid of women after sex. Women,almost all, act up n cause headaches if u break up with them. Best to tell them u lost job n have no money. They will break up with you. Act as if you were sad to lose her.

If u r 6 ft , famous , or rich u can get lot of women. 90 percent want top10% men. Rest of the people have to work towards getting one.

My Guage for women is get to know them 6 months and see if i can handke them when they are angry. See if you can handle when they are on their period. Besides sex , you have to deal with her about 23 hrs.

Around age of 26 women tend to look for husband type man who is relatively handsone. Around 30 they want man who has job so they can marry n have kids fast. 35 aged women will marry anyone but her looks will be done so I doubt men would marry.

KgK one says

Besides sex , you have to deal with her about 23 hrs.

You mean 23hrs and 59min? 😀

Ceffer says

There was a guy on Bad Tube a few years ago who filmed the 'shotgun' approach by just approaching girls on the beach and very quickly asking for sex. Out of 200 American women attempts, none said yes though there was those who were entertained by the question. When he tried somewhere in Europe, he got one girl to agree out of about 100 to go with him to have zipless sex, and she was cute, too.

In my misspent youth, I had a friend who said shotgun would work with about one out of 50, with many slaps on the face, but he always projected ready cash.

Another friend who owned a bar said the real short cut is flashing cash and a baggie of cocaine, which he said guaranteed getting laid before closing.

It tends to be the same ole same ole. Some suggestion of resources flowing to the woman from the man. Has to be done at least in a token, symbolic manner if nothing else.

Those are terrible odds and seems risky… get your ass kicked by an out of frame boyfriend or cancelled after someone gets you on camera.

Seems to me that the shotgun approach where you approach with confidence, strike up conversation first, and get a number would spike those odds considerably

BayArea says

You mean 23hrs and 59min?

Like prisoners, 59 minutes of R&R outside of the cell or on the crapper before she rips the hinges off and comes after you.

Shoot Antifa:

AmericanKulak says

Western Civ hasn't done this in generations. Ask based people in South Asia.

This is not a sarcastic remark.

True. South Asians and Western world marrying process is quite different. I would say that South Asians have a slightly better process.

First, the top 20% of men get 80% of the women.

What makes up the top 20% of men? It’s some combination of the following (3):

a.) physical looks
b.) finances/success
c,) audacity/energy/humor/personality/attention

Women lose it for great looking guys. They also lose it for rich guys. And if the guy is good looking and rich, those guys will have to fight them off with a stick. Most women have some standards and rules they adhere to. The better looking the guy and/or the richer the guy however, the more women will bend and relax those standards/rules. You ever hear a woman who is generally conservative and risk adverse say, “wow, I can’t believe I fucked that guy in Vegas, not sure what got into me”… ya, a good looking and/or rich guy who gave you a lot of attention got into you…

For the audacity/energy/humor part of it, these guys can also do well, but it’s not as instant as the other two above. It takes a bit more work.

Boy can it be rough for that bottom 80% of men who are competing for the remaining 20% of women however.

There was a period of my life (late 20s and early 30s) where I became single for the first time since college. I spent several months improving myself and getting into shape. I had a 6pack and a great tan. I was making decent money in Silicon Valley, never exceeding 40hr work weeks, and was very happy/confident. It was during this period where I would describe getting women’s attention and sex on a regular frequent basis to have been easy. I would say that I focused on the top 20% of women and would be successful with 4 out of 5 i asked out, which is a very high success rate. During most periods of my life outside of that, I wouldn’t dare describe it as easy.

My point: to get the women, you have to stand out among your peers. You have to make it evident that you are a top 20% guy, a high value guy, you will not get women consistently if you are in the bottom 80% of men, a shitty place to be if women/sex is what you are after.

One other side note I’ll mention, height. In general women tend to be ok with the 5’9 to 6’2 range. Below that it can get quite difficult as many women have a rule that they won’t date short men. And above that range, 6’3 and above, boy does it get easier. I have a couple buddies in the 6’4 - 6’5 range who have done ok in the female department while not having physical looks, finances, nor much confidence/audacity. Women get googly eyes for height and lose their remaining judgement filters… I’ve seen these guys get attention from women that a guy under 6ft tall would never ever get.

BayArea says

Women lose it for great looking guys. They also lose it for rich guys. And if the guy is good looking and rich, those guys will have to fight them off with a stick. Most women have some standards and rules they adhere to. The better looking the guy and/or the richer the guy however, the more women will bend and relax those standards/rules. You ever hear a woman who is generally conservative and risk adverse say, “wow, I can’t believe I fucked that guy in Vegas, not sure what got into me”… ya, a good looking and/or rich guy who gave you a lot of attention got into you…

It's very simple.

The bottom 90% of Men get the book thrown at them
The top 10% of Men get the pussy shown to them

Or:

Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks (AF/BB)

If she doesn't fuck you within a couple of hours spent together, she's after your resources and help, she's not that into you.

If she's into you, everything is easy. A coffee and a few minutes is enough. She'll drop by at midnight on a Friday, and make it easy for you to do so. If she's not into you, it's hoop jumping, demands for fine dining, and a list of rules and standards she has for men.

The "Emotionally Unavailable" and "Abusive" ex-boyfriends she claims to have were far more likely to be Chad-Tyrones who
1. Told her from the beginning it was just hooking up, probably several times
2. The relationship beyond a booty call never existed except in her own mind/fantasy
3. That's the kind of guy who turns her own sexually; now she needs a Reliable Roger/Steady Eddie to rebuild her finances and self-esteem until she's ready to chase Chad/Tyrone again. Don't be that Steady Eddie delivering her Foodie Calls.

No woman over 25 has only slept with just 3 or 4 guys, and 25 is being very, very generous. These days, even the dogs, hogs, and any religious chicks (short of having a hardcore Muslim family situation) have slept with at least 10 guys by 25. At least.

I encourage guys to laugh and wink whenever a chick over 25 tries to claim she's only slept with less than half a dozen dudes.

Booger says

Shoot Antifa:

Absolutely. Chicks dig a guy who's killed someone in self-defense. Means that he can defend her too.