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Housing first in Finland - a success! But what is NOT said?
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2023 Jan 10, 12:41am 698 views 6 comments
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Blue
2023 Jan 10, 1:19am
It won’t happen in CA. 1978 prop 13 vigilantes never allow anymore new building permits. That also help politicians to pretend solving housing crisis forever while making every shack a mil with all the regulations, fee and taxes. It’s a win win situation.
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RWSGFY
2023 Jan 10, 8:10am
RWSGFY
2023 Jan 10, 8:10am
Blue says
What? There is shitload of new development in Bay Area which happened in the last 10 years. The whole midlle part of Dublin where Camp Parks military base used to be is covered in multi-store apartment buildings now. Shitload of 4-5 story apartment buildings sprang along I-680 in Milpitas-Fremont area, etc. No permits my ass.
It won’t happen in CA. 1978 prop 13 vigilantes never allow anymore new building permits.
What? There is shitload of new development in Bay Area which happened in the last 10 years. The whole midlle part of Dublin where Camp Parks military base used to be is covered in multi-store apartment buildings now. Shitload of 4-5 story apartment buildings sprang along I-680 in Milpitas-Fremont area, etc. No permits my ass.
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GNL
2023 Jan 10, 8:15am
GNL
2023 Jan 10, 8:15am
RWSGFY says
And what are the "values" of those newly constructed units?
Blue says
It won’t happen in CA. 1978 prop 13 vigilantes never allow anymore new building permits.
What? There is shitload of new development in Bay Area which happened in the last 10 years. The whole midlle part of Dublin where Camp Parks military base used to be is covered in multi-store apartment buildings now. Shitload of 4-5 story apartment buildings sprang along I-680 in Milpitas-Fremont area, etc. No permits my ass.
And what are the "values" of those newly constructed units?
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RWSGFY
2023 Jan 10, 9:09am
RWSGFY
2023 Jan 10, 9:09am
GNL says
Who cares - they were built meaning the permits were granted.
RWSGFY says
Blue says
It won’t happen in CA. 1978 prop 13 vigilantes never allow anymore new building permits.
What? There is shitload of new development in Bay Area which happened in the last 10 years. The whole midlle part of Dublin where Camp Parks military base used to be is covered in multi-store apartment buildings now. Shitload of 4-5 story apartment buildings sprang along I-680 in Milpitas-Fremont area, etc. No permits my ass.
And what are the "values" of those newly constructed units?
Who cares - they were built meaning the permits were granted.
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RWSGFY
2023 Jan 10, 9:11am
RWSGFY
2023 Jan 10, 9:11am
Besides, since when every junkie and/or wetback willing to move in is entitled to a nice free apartment? Can I have one too?
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Eric Holder
2023 Jan 10, 10:31am
Eric Holder
2023 Jan 10, 10:31am
cisTits says
If we start giving out free apartments the demand will be infinite. At least Finland is cold and unwelcoming 9 month per year, so no bum would really want to move there. And they have borders.
RWSGFY says
What? There is shitload of new development in Bay Area which happened in the last 10 years. The whole midlle part of Dublin where Camp Parks military base used to be is covered in multi-store apartment buildings now. Shitload of 4-5 story apartment buildings sprang along I-680 in Milpitas-Fremont area, etc. No permits my ass
Drop in the bucket when it comes to meeting demand.
If we start giving out free apartments the demand will be infinite. At least Finland is cold and unwelcoming 9 month per year, so no bum would really want to move there. And they have borders.
I love this article. Housing first people probably love this article. And the housing first people probably have no idea why I also love it. In short, it's because it shows that the problem with "Housing First" in America is not providing houses to people. It's that we absolutely fail on cost effective government programs, even for really good ideas.
In the article, Finland spent 270M Euros to provide about 4600 homes. This is a per home cost of about 70k Euros! Compare this to Los Angeles, Ca. Reports of 700k per unit.
Strangely, the article does not tout this per unit cost, contrast it to opposed housing first initiatives costing 10x, or attempt to find out what the contributiong factors are for success vs failure. I wonder why?