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ZUBY:
@ZubyMusic
Nov 16
What was the silliest, least scientific 'pandemic' policy?

Tons of good answers.

https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/thinking-points-november-27-2022

The U.S. government is engaged in genocide.

Most academics are required to raise a large portion of their salary through government and corporate “grants”.

Any academic who questions the genocide will not be funded by the government or corporate sector.

Therefore no academics question the genocide — and if they do they’ll be fired.

That’s how the academic world arrives at consensus these days.

https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/thinking-points-december-2-2022

The wholesale assault on science, by many on the political left, over the last several years, is astonishing. They seem to believe that:

• mercury and aluminum are magically transmogrified from known neurotoxins into beneficial vitamins when injected into children;

• biological sex is socially constructed and chromosomes are a vast right wing conspiracy theory; and that

• genetically modified mRNA shots, that have never worked in humans, suddenly became “safe and effective” because of the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

Patrick says

Therefore no academics question the genocide — and if they do they’ll be fired.

That’s how the academic world arrives at consensus these days.

Not correct. There are plenty academics questioning the narrative, remember the Barrington declaration. The nonconformists are simply ignored, even though they are more competent and more accomplished than fauxci style idiots.

https://rumble.com/v1nujz6--amazing-the-sound-of-silenced-science-the-adverse-events-featuring-the-spi.html


original link

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/kitten-corner-follow-the-science

um, you guys, is anyone else maybe a teensy bit worried that if “the best way to get people to follow the science is not to explain the science” that probably it’s not really very good science?

i’m just a kitten and not a big important president of the european research council like miss maria or anything, but that sounds kinda suspect…

https://twitter.com/bfcarlson/status/1622940924564107265?ref_src=patrick.net

In the last interview of his life (1996), astronomer Carl Sagan gave an uncannily prescient warning of the dangers that arise when you cannot ask skeptical scientific questions of those in authority. Watch and ask yourself: was he right?

https://palexander.substack.com/p/6-foot-social-distancing-rule-that

6-foot social distancing rule that near destroyed our daily lives, closed businesses, & was just horrendous, well, I spoke to Redfield about this at HHS, told me basically they made it up, NO science

I never faulted Redfield, to me a God fearing man, good man, we had a good work relationship but he was weak and could not handle the malfeasants undercutting Trump (or him) at CDC

Dr. Scott Gottlieb (prior FDA commissioner) went on media and said it was made up, to verify what I had said openly. It was made up.

Patrick says

https://twitter.com/bfcarlson/status/1622940924564107265?ref_src=patrick.net

In the last interview of his life (1996), astronomer Carl Sagan gave an uncannily prescient warning of the dangers that arise when you cannot ask skeptical scientific questions of those in authority. Watch and ask yourself: was he right?

Outstanding clip - thanks for this. Well, I guess he was right. This also means that Tyson, who constantly refers to Sagan as his mentor, has betrayed his legacy and ignored his warning. I wonder what Druyan thinks of Tyson at this stage, or was Sagan just spouting bullshit?

EDIT: If anyone is the current skeptic on PatNet, it's @richwicks. Hell, this forum was started by a housing skeptic. Sagan, Jefferson, et. al, agree that while sometimes vociferous disagreement results, that's not a reason to cancel or ignore skeptics. It is, rather, the true meaning of diversity - the Diversity of Ideas, the crucible, where truth is forged. Skeptics are trying to keep us honest.

Patrick says

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/Not_the_Bee/status/1593027147907878912

ZUBY:
ZubyMusic
Nov 16
What was the silliest, least scientific 'pandemic' policy?

Tons of good answers.

Notice how the officers neither are keeping six feet, nor are they masked. Hard to tell from the photo, but it looks to me like they are having a good laugh at the absurdity of it all.

stereotomy says

This also means that Tyson, who constantly refers to Sagan as his mentor, has betrayed his legacy and ignored his warning.

Tyson is no dummy, but it's famous because he's black, not because he's some genius physicist. He's an adequate physicist, but hardly a genius one.

It's our media that makes people famous and popular, none of it is ever earned. Stephen Hawking was over-rated, VASTLY, but he had done more contribution to science than Tyson. The next important physicist or scientist of some sort, is going to prove that the Big Bang theory is incorrect. I think that's inevitable at this point. It's called the "Crisis in Cosmology", and probably, very likely, the Big Bang didn't happen. We may be in an eternal universe, which is just as fucking inexplicable as the Big Bang is. Red Shift, for example, may not be due to a universal expansion. Maybe it's move red due to gravitation. Who knows? It's over my head, but I can tell you, there's a LOT of problems with the Big Bang theory. Current models are incorrect, for certain, maybe they just have to be tweaked, but maybe, they are fundamentally wrong, and that's where the evidence is increasingly pointing to.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/kitten-corner-testable-predictions/comment/15785884

The method of 21st century science is thus:

1. determine the premise to be proven

2. collect data

3. any data points that do not support the premise are declared outliers and removed

4. restate premise as absolute fact

5. collect payment

6. shout down anyone who questions the absolute fact as a denier and anti-science, misinformation and disinformation and take appropriate action to silence them

https://slaynews.com/news/harvard-leader-scholar-honesty-caught-fabricating-multiple-studies/

Harvard’s ‘Leading Scholar’ on ‘Honesty’ Caught Fabricating ‘Multiple Studies’

Harvard’s “leading scholar” on behavioral psychology has been caught fabricating “multiple studies,” including the findings in a famous major study on “honesty.”

“Reverberations” are going through the academic community after evidence emerged showing that Francesca Gino of Harvard Business School fabricated results in “multiple studies,” according to a report from the New York Times.

The report asserts that the field of behavioral science, an area of research often seen with much “skepticism” from other scientists, “may have sustained its most serious blow yet” over the revelations about Gino’s studies.

One of these was a famous study on honesty conducted in 2012.

The results of the study have “been cited hundreds of times by other scholars” since. ...

richwicks says

It's over my head, but I can tell you, there's a LOT of problems with the Big Bang theory. Current models are incorrect, for certain, maybe they just have to be tweaked, but maybe, they are fundamentally wrong, and that's where the evidence is increasingly pointing to.

Frankly I think quantum theory is bunk.

As foe the big bang, if you start with the premise that the universe is expanding and run it backwards as matter and space get compressed towads a singularity, the laws of physics as we understand them break down.

First many universal "constants" probably are not in reality constant but perceived as such given the space and time we exist in.

Second if space time is a fabric that can be stretched then it can also "bunch up" which would explain things such as the Plank length. There is only so much you can compress matter before the current physical model of the universe breaks down.

I wish I were better at math... but much beyond special relativity gets beyond me. I've seen the Schrodinger Wave equation and understand what it represents conceptually but I don't have the math chops to properly apply it in any meaningful way.

GreaterNYCDude says

Frankly I think quantum theory is bunk.

OK - there's a lot of bullshit about it, questions designed to confuse the student. For example "observation effects outcome". This implies if you look at it PASSIVELY you change the outcome. That's not what happens.

To observe something you need to hit it with something. At the macro level it's light, which DOES (slightly) affect an object, but not in any way you can measure. To observe something at the atomic level, you need to hit it with an electron, and that does effect it. It would be like if you were in a weightless dark void, and there was a billiard ball bouncing around, but the only thing you were given to find out where the billiard ball was, was a shotgun that shot out 1000's of small tiny rubber pellets, and to see where those pellets ended up.

Hitting the billiard ball changes the direction and momentum of it.

I hate the descriptions in physics. They are designed to confuse.

Quantum effects ARE REAL, an electron can jump from one point in space to another, this is certain. It's a problem with computer chips. An electron isn't like a billiard ball, it's a weird standing wave of some sort and it's "position" isn't really at a point in space. The best we can do is give it a probability of where it "is", but it's spread all over the place.

GreaterNYCDude says

As for the big bang, if you start with the premise that the universe is expanding and run it backwards as matter and space get compressed towads a singularity, the laws of physics as we understand them break down.

Yeah, I know what George LeMaitre's idea was, the problem is "the crisis in cosmology":

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+crisis+in+cosmology

I found out about it with Eric Lerner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2HIU1QB24k

That's like a random video and a 4th in a series.

Basically, if the Big Bang DID happen, models don't agree with observation. There's a ton of videos on it. Some better than others. Basically, predictions of early matter don't agree with observation. That's the big problem with it, in my knowledge, which is limited.

GreaterNYCDude says

First many universal "constants" probably are not in reality constant but perceived as such given the space and time we exist in.

Could be.

GreaterNYCDude says

Second if space time is a fabric that can be stretched then it can also "bunch up" which would explain things such as the Plank length. There is only so much you can compress matter before the current physical model of the universe breaks down.

I won't speculate on this. There is this concept there is this sort of fabric to the universe, but I think it's kind of a holdover of "ether". We just don't know. I'm conformable with ignorance. It SEEMS to be like a membrane that is being stretched out, and if there was a ripple travelling through it, it would get longer and longer as it was being stretched - like red shift. Like a rubber membrane - you give if a poke, and immediately start stretching it out? The wavelength would get longer as well.

Wait.. I need think about that. If you pull a guitar string, and draw it tighter, the frequency goes up, not down. Red Shift is a reduction of frequency. That's an idea. Maybe it's not analogous. But I've never thought of that but I am thinking in terms of Newtonian Mechanics, maybe this doesn't apply in Relativity.

GreaterNYCDude says

I wish I were better at math... but much beyond special relativity gets beyond me. I've seen the Schrodinger Wave equation and understand what it represents conceptually but I don't have the math chops to properly apply it in any meaningful way.

Well, at one point, I could solve it for the Bohr model of the hydrogen atom.

I don't think there is enough information at our level to understand what the fuck is going on. It's like an amoeba that is as intelligent as we are, trying to understand gravity when the amoeba only can exist in a fluid - good luck!

I think overall comprehension is FAR beyond humanity.