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Just stick to reality. You think the flight logs and pictures on Epstein island were bad, imagine what went on in that underground temple. Satanism is alive and well. But in the search for truth and rejection of lies, I see God coming back strong. Jesus vs Satan, the story as old as time, and more relevant now than ever.

Shaman says

the cultural modalities provided by the Judeo/Christian communities are in fact the reason that western civilization developed so fast and became dominant over all other civilizations and cultures

I agree, but Western civilization started earlier, with the Greeks and Romans. The layer of Christianity on top of that was at first stifling, as the Catholic Church maintained power though an inflexible dogma and hierarchy. I think Western civilization really took off after The Enlightenment, which separated church and state, while most Western people still remained Christian and believed in the stories of the bible as a unifying factor.

Now I think we've lost that Christian cultural unity, and so people are in search of some other story to explain life, the universe, and everything. This is a huge opportunity for someone to step in with the right story, one that's optimistic and unifying.

I'm a little worried that it's also an opportunity for Islam, which has a simpler story than Christianity, but is even worse than medieval Catholicism in terms of violently stifling new ideas.

Patrick says

I'm a little worried that it's also an opportunity for Islam, which has a simpler story than Christianity, but is even worse than medieval Catholicism in terms of violently stifling new ideas.

Religion has never fostered new ideas. It's a control mechanism. A more religious a society is, the more stagnant it is.

If there were no North and South America, we'd be, at best, in the Victorian Age today. It was the escape from religious domination that allowed for rapid development of technology.

Yet people do think in terms of archetypes: Garden of Eden, king/pharaoh, priests, warriors, virgins, battles, human sacrifice, the young hero (Luke Skywalker, Harry Potter)...

If you don't provide them a structure in terms of archetypes, they will find it somewhere else, like the leftist Globull Warming religion which is killing large numbers of poor people by raising their energy costs and increasing pollution by inhibiting cheap natural gas so poor people are forced to burn whatever they can find to cook and to stay warm.

Patrick says

impervious

great word!

richwicks says

If there were no North and South America, we'd be, at best, in the Victorian Age today. It was the escape from religious domination that allowed for rapid development of technology.

I think that is North America alone, as in USA and Canada. South of the Rio Grande is staunch Catholic and thus did not progress with the tech and wealth as the Protestant North. Otherwise, why aren't Mexico and Brazil with their resources and people, at least as rich as France?

HeadSet says

richwicks says

If there were no North and South America, we'd be, at best, in the Victorian Age today. It was the escape from religious domination that allowed for rapid development of technology.

I think that is North America alone, as in USA and Canada. South of the Rio Grande is staunch Catholic and thus did not progress with the tech and wealth as the Protestant North. Otherwise, why aren't Mexico and Brazil with their resources and people, at least as rich as France?

South America like North America largely avoided WWII, and were major competitors at the end of WWII, but we have a CIA and we destroyed South America systematically.

The United States creates nearly every single problem that our "government" then turns around and complains about. Venezuela wouldn't be moving left, if the US didn't keep fucking them over, for example. Mexico wouldn't be 1/10th as corrupt if the CIA wasn't running drugs all the fucking time into this country to pay for black ops and just to make money.

South America would be smart, but wouldn't be allowed, to make a Confederation against the United States, and work for common interests. Let the drug dealers run wild, don't even try to prosecute them or bother them, completely legalize it. That would solve a great deal of corruption overnight. If the US wants to come in to (supposedly) stop drug production, let them. Let the US government pay for all the control. Ban foreign control of land and foreign ownership. It would piss of the US to no end, and would cause problems for certain, but it would be a good long term solution.

China, Russia, and India are leading the way, in that they will go along to get along with the US, PROVIDED its in their own interests. Russia has finally discovered there's literally no reason to work with the US, nothing they do is good enough. I've said it before, but I think the Neocons wouldn't be a better bunch of fuckups and saboteurs of the United States if they weren't placed into their position by our worst adversaries. These stupid fucking thugs, see everything with a gun pointed at it. They cannot be negotiated with, they can't be reasoned with, they just want conflict, and conflict in the long term, isn't profitable for anybody. Blow up Syria and you have a nation that has very little economic activity, end up having very little economic activity, but the US, wastes TRILLIONS doing this. Who is harmed the most?

France went through the French Revolution, while none of Latin America did. France essentially became protestant even if it's still nominally Catholic.

Latin America remained tightly controlled by not only Catholicism, but also by a small economic elite which either steals whatever wealth the poor produce, or crushes whatever business threatens an elite monopoly. At least that's my impression of it. I think a Georgist land value tax would do wonders to improve the economic situation there.

The Jewish religion is even better at unifying its members than Christianity, because it's not only about a common story, but the story is that all Jews are genetically descendants of one guy, Abraham. Descent from Abraham is probably not literally true, though millennia of inbreeding Jews are in fact all related to each other more than to the majority population in whatever country they are in. Among Ashkenazi (European) Jews, it's pretty extreme. I think all Ashkenazi Jews are on average the equivalent of 3rd cousin to each other by genetic distance. This is quite obvious on 23andme.

Islam is also pretty good at unifying its members, but Arab Muslims tend to have contempt for other converts to Islam, seeing themselves as the original and best Muslims. I heard this from a Pakistani guy who was annoyed by it.

Patrick says

Descent from Abraham is probably not literally true, though millennia of inbreeding Jews are in fact all related to each other more than to the majority population in whatever country they are in.

THIS is a myth! There are 4 main Jewish groups that I'm aware of: Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Mizrahi, and MISCELLANEOUS.

Although Ashkenazi Jewish "scientists" are claiming common heritage, they are lying. the Ashkenazi probably aren't related to any of the other groups at all.

The problem is that the Jewish religion has a lot of really dumb myths. Like they were slaves of the Egyptians, or that Israel ever historically exist, or there was a King David. You'll hear this in THEIR mythology, but you're not going to find any of it in Roman, Egyptian, or Greek historical documents. If you think "a land for a people for a people without a land" is some sort of aberration of exaggeration and propaganda - this has long been a cultural trait of the Ashkenazi Jews. They make up shit all the time and then they scream "racist!" when you point out they're full of shit.

They constantly fabricate history and "facts". All the dead sea scrolls, for example, may quite well be forgeries. They were created in order to establish the mythical Israel as being real. Jewish people have always had a presence in what is now Israel, but it's unlikely they ever were the majority rulers of it, ever.

HeadSet says

Otherwise, why aren't Mexico and Brazil with their resources and people, at least as rich as France?

Because the gringo Euros have been destabilizing them and fucking them out of their own wealth since forever. It's the economic hit man, Babylonian debt slavery writ large, with the corrupt leaders having the silver or the bullet option. Why does one think it is so easy to bribe scores of SudAmericans to cross our borders illegally? They know the history and they think we owe them. They kind of have a point, but that does not mean I believe in open borders if we want a country at all.

Even established Mexican immigrants don't want unleashed open borders. The Cartels are establishing beach heads, and that's not good for anybody but the elites who run or invest in the cartels (Intel agencies, China, and Globalists).

richwicks says

Ashkenazi probably aren't related to any of the other groups at all.

I've read about the genetic origin of Jews, and I'm pretty sure there are genetic relationships among most of the various Jewish groups, though not as strong as within each group. There is a preponderance of Y chromosome J in all Jewish groups, and J is typical for the Middle East and among Arabs. Most European men's Y chromosome is R1 (R1b in western Europe, R1a in Eastern Europe). My own is R1b.

The origin of most of Jewish groups started with some Jewish men who were merchants, moved to where the trading opportunities were, and then converted and married local women, with the subsequent generations then becoming purely endogamous. And this is a bit ironic, because by mainstream Jewish law, it's female descent that makes you Jewish, not male descent.

Back to the original point: good stories have the power to unify people and get them to act in the best interest of the group, and to stamp out corruption. We lack that in the West now. Diversity divides us and promotes corruption.

The original Romans were all interrelated and unified in their fight for the glory of Rome. The Spanish conquistators were mostly cousins of each other. So they were fighting not just for individual glory, but for their extended families.

Patrick says

My own is R1b.

I always knew you reeked of white privilege.

Most sites claim that R1b moved from east to west, but Ireland is close to 100% R1b and it looks like the density drops off from there, implying that the Irish effectively colonized Europe with their Y chromosomes:

Patrick says

Most sites claim that R1b moved from east to west, but Ireland is close to 100% R1b and it looks like the density drops off from there, implying that the Irish effectively colonized Europe with their Y chromosomes:

OR:
Europe was majority Celtic in pre-Roman times but then heavily mixed with Germanic and Slavic migration. The Germanics never really settled in Ireland en mass.

Patrick says

My own is R1b

Does R1b by chance contain that gene that promotes tolerance of alcohol?

HeadSet says

Europe was majority Celtic in pre-Roman times but then heavily mixed with Germanic and Slavic migration. The Germanics never really settled in Ireland en mass.

Could be. The Romans never colonized Ireland or Scotland either. They sent scouts, but the scouts reported back that the people were insanely violent, so the Romans didn't bother.

HeadSet says

Does R1b by chance contain that gene that promotes tolerance of alcohol?

I'm pretty sure that most northern Europeans have a high tolerance for alcohol, but I'd think that would be encoded on some other chromosomes, since the Y chromosomes does not have much aside from triggers to make the fetus male.

Patrick says

Descent from Abraham is probably not literally true

Abraham's son Issac/Israel had twelve sons, which the 12 tribes descended from. Jews are very careful about tracing their family genealogy, they all came from Abraham.

That's the story, but Jewish men have widely varying Y chromosomes, so it can't be literally true as a strict paternal line thing.

But the point is that it's a good story, and having a good story keeps a culture unified and alive.

After some of the things I watched regarding DNA, the accepted science in the realm of genetics seems tenuous at best.