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Hugh_Mongous
2023 Apr 4, 11:25pm
Patrick says
Yep, this is how it works. But let's not pretend Donald didn't try to do the same to Potato, m'kay? I mean the whole covfefe he was impeached for was for the attempt to investigate his front-running opponent before the election. Just like we now say this current thing is BS, so the Demonrats were saying that thing was BS then. And, btw, pointing at the other side's hypocrisy never works as people think it would.
Yep, this is how it works. But let's not pretend Donald didn't try to do the same to Potato, m'kay? I mean the whole covfefe he was impeached for was for the attempt to investigate his front-running opponent before the election. Just like we now say this current thing is BS, so the Demonrats were saying that thing was BS then. And, btw, pointing at the other side's hypocrisy never works as people think it would.
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Patrick
2023 Apr 4, 11:37pm
Patrick
2023 Apr 4, 11:37pm
Hugh_Mongous says
Biden actually did commit serious crimes though, like abusing his office to threaten withholding US loan guarantees when the corrupt Ukrainian company his corrupt son was getting paid $50,000/month to do nothing for was being investigated:
https://www.libertynation.com/that-ukraine-prosecutor-biden-had-fired-it-seems-trump-was-right/
the whole covfefe he was impeached for was for the attempt to investigate his front-running opponent before the election
Biden actually did commit serious crimes though, like abusing his office to threaten withholding US loan guarantees when the corrupt Ukrainian company his corrupt son was getting paid $50,000/month to do nothing for was being investigated:
https://www.libertynation.com/that-ukraine-prosecutor-biden-had-fired-it-seems-trump-was-right/
For those who don’t recall the details, the story began in 2014 when then-Vice President Biden paid an official visit to Ukraine. The VP was described as “the public face of the [Obama] administration’s handling of Ukraine,” according to a Senate report into potential corruption involving Hunter Biden and Ukrainian energy company Burisma.
Just about three weeks after Joe Biden’s visit, his son took a $50,000-a-month position on Burisma’s board of directors. This, even though British officials only two weeks earlier had seized $23 million from the U.K. bank account of Burisma’s owner, Ukrainian oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky, as part of an ongoing corruption investigation. Zlochevsky and Burisma were also being investigated by Shokin as late as March 2016, until Biden threatened to freeze $1 billion in loan guarantees unless the prosecutor was removed.
A couple of years later, presumably when he thought it no longer mattered, Biden openly bragged about getting Shokin fired. During a 2018 event sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations, the former VP recounted how he threatened the Ukrainians:
“I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a b—ch, he got fired.”
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WookieMan
2023 Apr 5, 6:28am
WookieMan
2023 Apr 5, 6:28am
AmericanKulak says
It's simple and I've mentioned it before. Voting is weighted based on your income taxes that you put back into the system. You pay $0 you get 1 vote. You pay $10 you get 2. You pay $100 you get three. On and on. So the middle class person doing that actual fucking work paying $20-30k/yr in taxes gets 5 votes. The rich fuck using tax loopholes might only get 1 vote because they might have been negative in a year. Or they might get 7-8 if they're actually paying taxes.
Everyone can vote. No registration. You only have to have a tax return if you want to vote, which everyone has to or the IRS comes after you. You're given you allotment and you vote. If I vote for Trump i get 5 votes counted towards that. The homeless person just gets one. The rich guy skirting the taxes might only get one. It levels the playing field.
RWSGFY says
Somehow I think you are not in favor of lowering the voting age....
We should replace the voting age with "Makes over Poverty Line income, Over 65, owns capital or real estate over $100k, or retired or current serviceman"
People who don't pay for dinner or at least have a direct role in keeping the restuarant going, shouldn't have a voice in deciding the restaurant.
Also, it stops the Upper Class from using the Lower Class to break the Middle Class, since the Lumpenproles, Students, and marginally employed weedheads won't have a vote.
It's simple and I've mentioned it before. Voting is weighted based on your income taxes that you put back into the system. You pay $0 you get 1 vote. You pay $10 you get 2. You pay $100 you get three. On and on. So the middle class person doing that actual fucking work paying $20-30k/yr in taxes gets 5 votes. The rich fuck using tax loopholes might only get 1 vote because they might have been negative in a year. Or they might get 7-8 if they're actually paying taxes.
Everyone can vote. No registration. You only have to have a tax return if you want to vote, which everyone has to or the IRS comes after you. You're given you allotment and you vote. If I vote for Trump i get 5 votes counted towards that. The homeless person just gets one. The rich guy skirting the taxes might only get one. It levels the playing field.
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Tenpoundbass
2023 Apr 5, 6:32am
Tenpoundbass
2023 Apr 5, 6:32am
WookieMan says
So instead of elections being decided by large minority populations in big cities. You want George Soros and Bill Gates to decide our elections?
There's a better way, you can only vote if you drag your sorry ass to the polls, and you vote on paper.
It's simple and I've mentioned it before. Voting is weighted based on your income taxes that you put back into the system. You pay $0 you get 1 vote. You pay $10 you get 2. You pay $100 you get three. On and on.
So instead of elections being decided by large minority populations in big cities. You want George Soros and Bill Gates to decide our elections?
There's a better way, you can only vote if you drag your sorry ass to the polls, and you vote on paper.
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richwicks
2023 Apr 5, 6:37am
richwicks
2023 Apr 5, 6:37am
AmericanKulak says
As long as the poll tax is limited to a reasonable amount of money. I've heard it was as high as several hundred dollars in the 1960s in some locations.
If it was $5, that would limit the amount of vote theft and it would reduce fraud, because that money WOULD be counted. Ballots, not so much.
Poll taxes are a wonderful idea. Too bad the Leftoid 60s court shut it down.
As long as the poll tax is limited to a reasonable amount of money. I've heard it was as high as several hundred dollars in the 1960s in some locations.
If it was $5, that would limit the amount of vote theft and it would reduce fraud, because that money WOULD be counted. Ballots, not so much.
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richwicks
2023 Apr 5, 6:40am
richwicks
2023 Apr 5, 6:40am
Tenpoundbass says
The only people that are allowed to even run are already controlled. I doubt wealthy people even bother to vote. You think Soros or Gates waste their time doing this? They already purchased both politicians.
So instead of elections being decided by large minority populations in big cities. You want George Soros and Bill Gates to decide our elections?
The only people that are allowed to even run are already controlled. I doubt wealthy people even bother to vote. You think Soros or Gates waste their time doing this? They already purchased both politicians.
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WookieMan
2023 Apr 5, 7:25am
WookieMan
2023 Apr 5, 7:25am
Tenpoundbass says
You think those guys are paying taxes? Lol. Hells no. And guess what, that's only 2 people getting say 12 votes if they even pay anything. The middle class would decide elections. The poor and rich would get less votes in this scenario in most cases. Which is the way it should be.
WookieMan says
It's simple and I've mentioned it before. Voting is weighted based on your income taxes that you put back into the system. You pay $0 you get 1 vote. You pay $10 you get 2. You pay $100 you get three. On and on.
So instead of elections being decided by large minority populations in big cities. You want George Soros and Bill Gates to decide our elections?
There's a better way, you can only vote if you drag your sorry ass to the polls, and you vote on paper.
You think those guys are paying taxes? Lol. Hells no. And guess what, that's only 2 people getting say 12 votes if they even pay anything. The middle class would decide elections. The poor and rich would get less votes in this scenario in most cases. Which is the way it should be.
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RayAmerica
2023 Apr 5, 7:31am
RayAmerica
2023 Apr 5, 7:31am
After stealing the election in 2020 (and 2022), do you honestly think that there is even a remote chance that they are going to somehow allow Trump to be elected in '24? The elite that are pulling all the levers of power will NEVER allow that to happen.
There is only one way, and that is if Trump caves in and makes a deal with them. Reagan did it when he selected the internationalist, New World Order George H. W. Bush as VP, and then obediently loaded up his administration with Trilateralists and CFR members.
There is only one way, and that is if Trump caves in and makes a deal with them. Reagan did it when he selected the internationalist, New World Order George H. W. Bush as VP, and then obediently loaded up his administration with Trilateralists and CFR members.
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richwicks
2023 Apr 5, 7:36am
richwicks
2023 Apr 5, 7:36am
RayAmerica says
Yep, Trump has done his job. He's exposed all the corruption, all you need to do is look to see it.
Now, will we do anything about it? If not, we deserve what we get.
After stealing the election in 2020 (and 2022), do you honestly think that there is even a remote chance that they are going to somehow allow Trump to be elected in '24? The elite that are pulling all the levers of power will NEVER allow that to happen.
There is only one way, and that is if Trump caves in and makes a deal with them. Reagan did it when he selected the internationalist, New World Order George H. W. Bush as VP, and then obediently loaded up his administration with Trilateralists and CFR members.
Yep, Trump has done his job. He's exposed all the corruption, all you need to do is look to see it.
Now, will we do anything about it? If not, we deserve what we get.
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clambo
2023 Apr 5, 8:08am
Voting should be in person, on paper, with secure ID, natural born citizens, nobody who has illegal alien parents, nobody who is on welfare or using government benefits under age 62.
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richwicks
2023 Apr 5, 8:09am
richwicks
2023 Apr 5, 8:09am
clambo says
Naturalized citizens should absolutely be able to vote. Most of them are more American than Americans are. Meet a few, they believe in this country.
Voting should be in person, on paper, with secure ID, natural born citizens, nobody who has illegal alien parents, nobody who is on welfare or using government benefits under age 62.
Naturalized citizens should absolutely be able to vote. Most of them are more American than Americans are. Meet a few, they believe in this country.
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HeadSet
2023 Apr 5, 8:30am
HeadSet
2023 Apr 5, 8:30am
THE FIX IS IN. They timed the rotation to get this blatantly antiTrump judge:
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RWSGFY
2023 Apr 5, 9:08am
RWSGFY
2023 Apr 5, 9:08am
Patrick says
You think it's serious, they think it's not. Same with this current Trump thing.
And the previous Trump thing was EXACTLY the same as that Biden thing - threatening to withhold the Congress-approved assistance. See how things flip from nothingburger to crime of the century depending on whose guy we're talking about?
Same with investigating a candidate: it's taboo this year because our guy is the challenger but it was perfectly ok when our guy was the incumbent. And vice versa. Politics do this to people.
Hugh_Mongous says
the whole covfefe he was impeached for was for the attempt to investigate his front-running opponent before the election
Biden actually did commit serious crimes though, like abusing his office to threaten withholding US loan guarantees
You think it's serious, they think it's not. Same with this current Trump thing.
And the previous Trump thing was EXACTLY the same as that Biden thing - threatening to withhold the Congress-approved assistance. See how things flip from nothingburger to crime of the century depending on whose guy we're talking about?
Same with investigating a candidate: it's taboo this year because our guy is the challenger but it was perfectly ok when our guy was the incumbent. And vice versa. Politics do this to people.
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HeadSet
2023 Apr 5, 9:29am
HeadSet
2023 Apr 5, 9:29am
RWSGFY says
When did Trump threaten to withhold Congress-approved assistance?
And the previous Trump thing was EXACTLY the same as that Biden thing - threatening to withhold the Congress-approved assistance.
When did Trump threaten to withhold Congress-approved assistance?
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Ceffer
2023 Apr 5, 11:06am
Ceffer
2023 Apr 5, 11:06am
The satisfying Shadenfreude of seeing Trump arrested and hauled before a kangaroo court is being countered by the paranoia that when Trump wins, they all have their informal immunities dropped by default and new precedence. That's the reason even his 'enemies' and counter stooges don't want this.
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richwicks
2023 Apr 5, 11:15am
richwicks
2023 Apr 5, 11:15am
RWSGFY says
No, this is simply corruption.
Dual standards are corruption, nothing more.
If Trump is guilty of a crime, prosecute him. If Hillary Clinton is guilty of a crime prosecute her. Same for Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, John McCain, George W. Bush, John Kerry, Al Gore, etc.
If they engage in selective prosecution, it's simply corruption.
Same with investigating a candidate: it's taboo this year because our guy is the challenger but it was perfectly ok when our guy was the incumbent. And vice versa. Politics do this to people.
No, this is simply corruption.
Dual standards are corruption, nothing more.
If Trump is guilty of a crime, prosecute him. If Hillary Clinton is guilty of a crime prosecute her. Same for Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, John McCain, George W. Bush, John Kerry, Al Gore, etc.
If they engage in selective prosecution, it's simply corruption.
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richwicks
2023 Apr 5, 11:18am
richwicks
2023 Apr 5, 11:18am
Patrick says
If we had a rule of law, Bolton would be executed. The fact that Trump has been brought up on desperate bullshit charges, means that Bolton can be drawn up on real charges - because that fucker should be executed. That fucker produced propaganda that murdered 100's of thousands of people, and we hung assholes that did this in 1946 Germany.
He should be executed.
Lol, even Bolton, who hates Trump.
If we had a rule of law, Bolton would be executed. The fact that Trump has been brought up on desperate bullshit charges, means that Bolton can be drawn up on real charges - because that fucker should be executed. That fucker produced propaganda that murdered 100's of thousands of people, and we hung assholes that did this in 1946 Germany.
He should be executed.
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richwicks
2023 Apr 5, 11:21am
richwicks
2023 Apr 5, 11:21am
Ceffer says
I've hear this hypothesis as well.
I don't believe it. Hypocrisy has no bounds. If our legal system was fair, Biden (both of them) would be prosecuted, and Clinton, and Obama, and Bush - that's not going to happen.
The satisfying Shadenfreude of seeing Trump arrested and hauled before a kangaroo court is being countered by the paranoia that when Trump wins, they all have their informal immunities dropped by default and new precedence. That's the reason even his 'enemies' and counter stooges don't want this.
I've hear this hypothesis as well.
I don't believe it. Hypocrisy has no bounds. If our legal system was fair, Biden (both of them) would be prosecuted, and Clinton, and Obama, and Bush - that's not going to happen.
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AmericanKulak
2023 Apr 5, 4:50pm
AmericanKulak
2023 Apr 5, 4:50pm
HeadSet says
His daughter is a millie DC stooge who works for lobbyist PR firms, as well as Kamala and Bernie's campaigns.
THE FIX IS IN. They timed the rotation to get this blatantly antiTrump judge:
His daughter is a millie DC stooge who works for lobbyist PR firms, as well as Kamala and Bernie's campaigns.
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HeadSet
2023 Apr 5, 5:14pm
HeadSet
2023 Apr 5, 5:14pm
Looks like Stormy has got to pay even more Trump legal bills:
In all, Daniels has been ordered to pay more than $600,000 in Trump’s legal fees, tweeted Harmeet Dillon, one of his attorneys in the case.
That includes some $300,000 in attorney's fees that Daniels previously was ordered to pay. After a federal appeals court upheld that award last year
(Cue "Gangsta's Paradise" instrumental as Trump gets a hooker to pay HIM!)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/stormy-daniels-must-pay-122-000-in-trump-legal-bills/ar-AA19u1g1?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=27e921923d0848fbad00b4c4064d84e2&ei=20
In all, Daniels has been ordered to pay more than $600,000 in Trump’s legal fees, tweeted Harmeet Dillon, one of his attorneys in the case.
That includes some $300,000 in attorney's fees that Daniels previously was ordered to pay. After a federal appeals court upheld that award last year
(Cue "Gangsta's Paradise" instrumental as Trump gets a hooker to pay HIM!)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/stormy-daniels-must-pay-122-000-in-trump-legal-bills/ar-AA19u1g1?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=27e921923d0848fbad00b4c4064d84e2&ei=20
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RayAmerica
2023 Apr 5, 8:07pm
RayAmerica
2023 Apr 5, 8:07pm
President of El Salvador on Charges Against President Trump: ‘The United States’ Ability to Use “Democracy” as Foreign Policy Is Gone’
https://thelibertydaily.com/president-of-el-salvador-on-charges-against-president-trump-the-united-states-ability-to-use-democracy-as-foreign-policy-is-gone/
https://thelibertydaily.com/president-of-el-salvador-on-charges-against-president-trump-the-united-states-ability-to-use-democracy-as-foreign-policy-is-gone/
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richwicks
2023 Apr 5, 8:34pm
richwicks
2023 Apr 5, 8:34pm
HeadSet says
What does it matter if Trump fucked Stormy Daniels or whatever her real name is?
I didn't vote for Jesus, I voted against a Neocunt that voted for the Iraq war. I don't care a bit about his moral dalliance, I only care what he does. He didn't drag us into a new fucking war, that's an improvement.
Looks like Stormy has got to pay even more Trump legal bills:
In all, Daniels has been ordered to pay more than $600,000 in Trump’s legal fees, tweeted Harmeet Dillon, one of his attorneys in the case.
That includes some $300,000 in attorney's fees that Daniels previously was ordered to pay. After a federal appeals court upheld that award last year
(Cue "Gangsta's Paradise" instrumental as Trump gets a hooker to pay HIM!)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/stormy-daniels-must-pay-122-000-in-trump-legal-bills/ar-AA19u1g1?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=27e921923d0848fbad00b4c4064d84e2&ei=20
What does it matter if Trump fucked Stormy Daniels or whatever her real name is?
I didn't vote for Jesus, I voted against a Neocunt that voted for the Iraq war. I don't care a bit about his moral dalliance, I only care what he does. He didn't drag us into a new fucking war, that's an improvement.
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richwicks
2023 Apr 5, 8:39pm
richwicks
2023 Apr 5, 8:39pm
RayAmerica says
It's been gone for 30 years. Our government is criminal. Remember this?
original link
That horrible asshole was just lying about everything she stated, She was the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador. There is ZERO possibility that our intelligence community didn't know who she was, or that she was lying.
Our government promoted propaganda to start a war, this piglet was just a tool for it, and it's a pig now.
That was 30 years ago, and our government has not reformed, they have quadrupled down.
President of El Salvador on Charges Against President Trump: ‘The United States’ Ability to Use “Democracy” as Foreign Policy Is Gone’
https://thelibertydaily.com/president-of-el-salvador-on-charges-against-president-trump-the-united-states-ability-to-use-democracy-as-foreign-policy-is-gone/
It's been gone for 30 years. Our government is criminal. Remember this?
original link
That horrible asshole was just lying about everything she stated, She was the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador. There is ZERO possibility that our intelligence community didn't know who she was, or that she was lying.
Our government promoted propaganda to start a war, this piglet was just a tool for it, and it's a pig now.
That was 30 years ago, and our government has not reformed, they have quadrupled down.
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AmericanKulak
2023 Apr 5, 9:56pm
AmericanKulak
2023 Apr 5, 9:56pm
HeadSet says
President Dolemite!
(Cue "Gangsta's Paradise" instrumental as Trump gets a hooker to pay HIM!)
President Dolemite!
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mell
2023 Apr 6, 10:39am
richwicks says
Agreed. That was one of the low points back then, before the quadruple. lol
RayAmerica says
President of El Salvador on Charges Against President Trump: ‘The United States’ Ability to Use “Democracy” as Foreign Policy Is Gone’
https://thelibertydaily.com/president-of-el-salvador-on-charges-against-president-trump-the-united-states-ability-to-use-democracy-as-foreign-policy-is-gone/
It's been gone for 30 years. Our government is criminal. Remember this?
original link
That horrible asshole was just lying about everything she stated...
Agreed. That was one of the low points back then, before the quadruple. lol
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richwicks
2023 Apr 6, 12:45pm
richwicks
2023 Apr 6, 12:45pm
mell says
We've had many low points, but in comparison to what is happening now, having the asshole slagheap of the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador lie to produce propaganda to start a war is now a step up. That's how fucking bad we've gotten. That cunt asshole is a high point now.
Any morality or righteousness in our government is now gone. It's entirely criminal now. We found out that Nayirah al-Ṣabaḥ was the ambassador's daughter because we still had reporters that spoke it, 5 years after the fact. Do we have that now? Our entire "news" system is now entirely propaganda, and we have a blatant, obvious two tiered justice system. We're in a tyranny now.
Seymour Hersh posted to Substack on the Nordstream bombing. You know why? Because he knew NO "mainstream news" would report it. It's the most obvious fucking thing in the world, and our "news" won't report on it. "Russia did it".
original link
I don't know if they think we're this stupid, or if they are legitimately this stupid. Hard to imagine our leaders expect us to swallow this bullshit. Are they incredibly stupid, or do they just think we are? We are at the point where people make careers or side hustles making fun of government propaganda. That's all Jimmy Dore does now.
Agreed. That was one of the low points back then, before the quadruple. lol
We've had many low points, but in comparison to what is happening now, having the asshole slagheap of the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador lie to produce propaganda to start a war is now a step up. That's how fucking bad we've gotten. That cunt asshole is a high point now.
Any morality or righteousness in our government is now gone. It's entirely criminal now. We found out that Nayirah al-Ṣabaḥ was the ambassador's daughter because we still had reporters that spoke it, 5 years after the fact. Do we have that now? Our entire "news" system is now entirely propaganda, and we have a blatant, obvious two tiered justice system. We're in a tyranny now.
Seymour Hersh posted to Substack on the Nordstream bombing. You know why? Because he knew NO "mainstream news" would report it. It's the most obvious fucking thing in the world, and our "news" won't report on it. "Russia did it".
original link
I don't know if they think we're this stupid, or if they are legitimately this stupid. Hard to imagine our leaders expect us to swallow this bullshit. Are they incredibly stupid, or do they just think we are? We are at the point where people make careers or side hustles making fun of government propaganda. That's all Jimmy Dore does now.
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