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Trump INDICTED by Manhattan Grand Jury


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2023 Mar 30, 2:35pm   21,910 views  197 comments

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Trump indicted.



Link to NYT Article:
https://archive.is/IsPTb


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107   richwicks   2023 Apr 4, 8:14am  

WookieMan says

At the end of the day these are mentally ill people and the cops aren't going to care or do anything about it. If anything they appreciate it if you put them to sleep and it's one less call they have to deal with about the guy fucking with people. Just make sure not to kill him is the only caveat, which is unpredictable depending how they fall unless you grab the shirt during the punch. Not advice, but if it is constant it's an option.


I can handle myself pretty well by just talking and I don't tend to get riled easily, and I can't feel an insult from somebody I don't respect or know. I doubt there will ever be an altercation.
108   clambo   2023 Apr 4, 8:28am  

Above people are discussing crime in Japan.
I have been to Japan twice; the second time was an extensive stay and I visited many parts of the country.
An interesting thing is the signs in places which prohibit gangsters; they say "no tattoos allowed."
This weeds out the obvious Yakuza types.
If there is crime in Japan, I don't know where you would find it.
An interesting cultural feature in Japan is someone won't do something which would "dishonor my ancestors."
This is a quaint concept but I heard it, and it's probably bullshit but some people will adhere to it.
I had a nice time in Japan and it's interesting there; although it's crowded and hectic in Tokyo, in the other areas it's pretty peaceful outside of cities of course.
It was like a time machine in 1988; I visited a small island where the workers seemed to be old ladies; they were growing abalone and pearls and other stuff.
109   Patrick   2023 Apr 4, 12:19pm  

https://sashastone.substack.com/p/open-thread-the-madness-of-indecency/comments


It’s hard to believe that we’re living through this moment in history, made worse by the angry mobs showing up in New York to taunt and attempt to coax Trump supporters into violence, just so that they can prove all of their madness has been justified. How petty and gross they are, especially in the nonstop television coverage for ratings.

The Democrats have manufactured their own crisis for seven years and they’re dragging the country through pain and polarization just to stay in power. They need Trump to scare people to the polls. But how long can that last? Sooner or later, it’s all going to collapse. At least we have something to look forward to.

I miss the Left I used to know. I miss when they were decent and sensible people instead of a fanatic cult throwing fits when they don’t get their way. They are the ones who can’t control their rage and anger. They have lost their minds and lost their way.

This day in history will always be a reminder of what happened to them. This indictment shows the world who THEY are - with their ongoing show trials and their mass hysteria.

I will do everything I can to ensure their loss in 2024.
110   Patrick   2023 Apr 4, 12:36pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/americans-more-likely-vote-trump-post-indictment-poll/


Americans Now More Likely to Vote for Trump, Post-Indictment Poll Shows
111   clambo   2023 Apr 4, 2:59pm  

I'm old enough to remember the 60's.
Young people weren't such assholes then.
They didn't want to be sent to Vietnam and didn't like to get busted for weed; but they were not welfare losers, trans drag queens bothering children.
The losers today are crazy.
Edit: They were largely self-sufficient, nobody had a credit card, they didn't have communist views, nobody expected to have loans forgiven etc.
112   RWSGFY   2023 Apr 4, 3:32pm  

The_Deplorable says

rocketjoe79 says

"Does this mean Trump can't Campaign?? Sounds like the outcome the dems wanted. Silence Trump."

The prevailing wisdom here is that you cannot have one state, in this case New York, interfere with the presidential election of the United States.

The_Deplorable


I'll play a devil's advocate here: what is this "cannot"
based upon? A law? A tradition? An opinion?
113   RWSGFY   2023 Apr 4, 3:39pm  

This guy was against investigating a presidential candidate until he was for it (albeit the candidate is different this time):




114   AmericanKulak   2023 Apr 4, 5:21pm  

clambo says


I'm old enough to remember the 60's.
Young people weren't such assholes then.
They didn't want to be sent to Vietnam and didn't like to get busted for weed; but they were not welfare losers, trans drag queens bothering children.
The losers today are crazy.

It's a direct result of having a young dumbass worshipping culture.

"Oh the youth like this, and the youth want that."

Fuck the youth, they're literally the group in society with the least amount of experience at anything, from a particular skill or career to life in general.

And no, it's not because I'm in my 40s. I felt this way back when I was young.

The youth didn't get screwed because they weren't listened to, they got screwed because older people gave them more of a voice and gave them more weight when the old went to make decisions.

"You're 20, newb roookie, shut the fuck up"
115   RWSGFY   2023 Apr 4, 6:33pm  

AmericanKulak says

clambo says



I'm old enough to remember the 60's.
Young people weren't such assholes then.
They didn't want to be sent to Vietnam and didn't like to get busted for weed; but they were not welfare losers, trans drag queens bothering children.
The losers today are crazy.

It's a direct result of having a young dumbass worshipping culture.

"Oh the youth like this, and the youth want that."

Fuck the youth, they're literally the group in society with the least amount of experience at anything, from a particular skill or career to life in general.

And no, it's not because I'm in my 40s. I felt this way back when I was young.

The youth didn't get screwed because they weren't listened to, they got screwed because older people gave them more of a voice and gave them more weight when the old went to make decisions.

"You're 20, newb roookie, s...


Somehow I think you are not in favor of lowering the voting age....
116   AmericanKulak   2023 Apr 4, 6:52pm  

RWSGFY says


Somehow I think you are not in favor of lowering the voting age....


We should replace the voting age with "Makes over Poverty Line income, Over 65, owns capital or real estate over $100k, or retired or current serviceman"

People who don't pay for dinner or at least have a direct role in keeping the restuarant going, shouldn't have a voice in deciding the restaurant.

Also, it stops the Upper Class from using the Lower Class to break the Middle Class, since the Lumpenproles, Students, and marginally employed weedheads won't have a vote.
117   RWSGFY   2023 Apr 4, 7:11pm  

AmericanKulak says

RWSGFY says



Somehow I think you are not in favor of lowering the voting age....


We should replace the voting age with "Makes over Poverty Line income, Over 65, owns capital or real estate over $100k, or retired or current serviceman"

People who don't pay for dinner or at least have a direct role in keeping the restuarant going, shouldn't have a voice in deciding the restaurant.

Also, it stops the Upper Class from using the Lower Class to break the Middle Class, since the Lumpenproles, Students, and marginally employed weedheads won't have a vote.


POLL TAX!!! POLL TAX!!!!!
121   AmericanKulak   2023 Apr 4, 10:05pm  

RWSGFY says

POLL TAX!!! POLL TAX!!!!!

Poll taxes are a wonderful idea. Too bad the Leftoid 60s court shut it down.

"Being a world citizen is so important, I want what I'm entitled to!"
"Great, pay $20 for a voter card and vote as you like"
"Waaah! Too much! I'll stay home!"
123   Hugh_Mongous   2023 Apr 4, 11:25pm  

Patrick says






Yep, this is how it works. But let's not pretend Donald didn't try to do the same to Potato, m'kay? I mean the whole covfefe he was impeached for was for the attempt to investigate his front-running opponent before the election. Just like we now say this current thing is BS, so the Demonrats were saying that thing was BS then. And, btw, pointing at the other side's hypocrisy never works as people think it would.
124   Patrick   2023 Apr 4, 11:37pm  

Hugh_Mongous says

the whole covfefe he was impeached for was for the attempt to investigate his front-running opponent before the election


Biden actually did commit serious crimes though, like abusing his office to threaten withholding US loan guarantees when the corrupt Ukrainian company his corrupt son was getting paid $50,000/month to do nothing for was being investigated:

https://www.libertynation.com/that-ukraine-prosecutor-biden-had-fired-it-seems-trump-was-right/


For those who don’t recall the details, the story began in 2014 when then-Vice President Biden paid an official visit to Ukraine. The VP was described as “the public face of the [Obama] administration’s handling of Ukraine,” according to a Senate report into potential corruption involving Hunter Biden and Ukrainian energy company Burisma.

Just about three weeks after Joe Biden’s visit, his son took a $50,000-a-month position on Burisma’s board of directors. This, even though British officials only two weeks earlier had seized $23 million from the U.K. bank account of Burisma’s owner, Ukrainian oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky, as part of an ongoing corruption investigation. Zlochevsky and Burisma were also being investigated by Shokin as late as March 2016, until Biden threatened to freeze $1 billion in loan guarantees unless the prosecutor was removed.

A couple of years later, presumably when he thought it no longer mattered, Biden openly bragged about getting Shokin fired. During a 2018 event sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations, the former VP recounted how he threatened the Ukrainians:

“I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a b—ch, he got fired.”
125   WookieMan   2023 Apr 5, 6:28am  

AmericanKulak says

RWSGFY says



Somehow I think you are not in favor of lowering the voting age....


We should replace the voting age with "Makes over Poverty Line income, Over 65, owns capital or real estate over $100k, or retired or current serviceman"

People who don't pay for dinner or at least have a direct role in keeping the restuarant going, shouldn't have a voice in deciding the restaurant.

Also, it stops the Upper Class from using the Lower Class to break the Middle Class, since the Lumpenproles, Students, and marginally employed weedheads won't have a vote.

It's simple and I've mentioned it before. Voting is weighted based on your income taxes that you put back into the system. You pay $0 you get 1 vote. You pay $10 you get 2. You pay $100 you get three. On and on. So the middle class person doing that actual fucking work paying $20-30k/yr in taxes gets 5 votes. The rich fuck using tax loopholes might only get 1 vote because they might have been negative in a year. Or they might get 7-8 if they're actually paying taxes.

Everyone can vote. No registration. You only have to have a tax return if you want to vote, which everyone has to or the IRS comes after you. You're given you allotment and you vote. If I vote for Trump i get 5 votes counted towards that. The homeless person just gets one. The rich guy skirting the taxes might only get one. It levels the playing field.
126   Tenpoundbass   2023 Apr 5, 6:32am  

WookieMan says

It's simple and I've mentioned it before. Voting is weighted based on your income taxes that you put back into the system. You pay $0 you get 1 vote. You pay $10 you get 2. You pay $100 you get three. On and on.


So instead of elections being decided by large minority populations in big cities. You want George Soros and Bill Gates to decide our elections?

There's a better way, you can only vote if you drag your sorry ass to the polls, and you vote on paper.
127   richwicks   2023 Apr 5, 6:37am  

AmericanKulak says

Poll taxes are a wonderful idea. Too bad the Leftoid 60s court shut it down.


As long as the poll tax is limited to a reasonable amount of money. I've heard it was as high as several hundred dollars in the 1960s in some locations.

If it was $5, that would limit the amount of vote theft and it would reduce fraud, because that money WOULD be counted. Ballots, not so much.
128   richwicks   2023 Apr 5, 6:40am  

Tenpoundbass says

So instead of elections being decided by large minority populations in big cities. You want George Soros and Bill Gates to decide our elections?


The only people that are allowed to even run are already controlled. I doubt wealthy people even bother to vote. You think Soros or Gates waste their time doing this? They already purchased both politicians.
129   WookieMan   2023 Apr 5, 7:25am  

Tenpoundbass says

WookieMan says


It's simple and I've mentioned it before. Voting is weighted based on your income taxes that you put back into the system. You pay $0 you get 1 vote. You pay $10 you get 2. You pay $100 you get three. On and on.


So instead of elections being decided by large minority populations in big cities. You want George Soros and Bill Gates to decide our elections?

There's a better way, you can only vote if you drag your sorry ass to the polls, and you vote on paper.

You think those guys are paying taxes? Lol. Hells no. And guess what, that's only 2 people getting say 12 votes if they even pay anything. The middle class would decide elections. The poor and rich would get less votes in this scenario in most cases. Which is the way it should be.
130   RayAmerica   2023 Apr 5, 7:31am  

After stealing the election in 2020 (and 2022), do you honestly think that there is even a remote chance that they are going to somehow allow Trump to be elected in '24? The elite that are pulling all the levers of power will NEVER allow that to happen.

There is only one way, and that is if Trump caves in and makes a deal with them. Reagan did it when he selected the internationalist, New World Order George H. W. Bush as VP, and then obediently loaded up his administration with Trilateralists and CFR members.
131   richwicks   2023 Apr 5, 7:36am  

RayAmerica says

After stealing the election in 2020 (and 2022), do you honestly think that there is even a remote chance that they are going to somehow allow Trump to be elected in '24? The elite that are pulling all the levers of power will NEVER allow that to happen.

There is only one way, and that is if Trump caves in and makes a deal with them. Reagan did it when he selected the internationalist, New World Order George H. W. Bush as VP, and then obediently loaded up his administration with Trilateralists and CFR members.


Yep, Trump has done his job. He's exposed all the corruption, all you need to do is look to see it.

Now, will we do anything about it? If not, we deserve what we get.
132   clambo   2023 Apr 5, 8:08am  

Voting should be in person, on paper, with secure ID, natural born citizens, nobody who has illegal alien parents, nobody who is on welfare or using government benefits under age 62.
133   richwicks   2023 Apr 5, 8:09am  

clambo says

Voting should be in person, on paper, with secure ID, natural born citizens, nobody who has illegal alien parents, nobody who is on welfare or using government benefits under age 62.


Naturalized citizens should absolutely be able to vote. Most of them are more American than Americans are. Meet a few, they believe in this country.
135   HeadSet   2023 Apr 5, 8:30am  

THE FIX IS IN. They timed the rotation to get this blatantly antiTrump judge:


136   RWSGFY   2023 Apr 5, 9:08am  

Patrick says


Hugh_Mongous says


the whole covfefe he was impeached for was for the attempt to investigate his front-running opponent before the election


Biden actually did commit serious crimes though, like abusing his office to threaten withholding US loan guarantees



You think it's serious, they think it's not. Same with this current Trump thing.

And the previous Trump thing was EXACTLY the same as that Biden thing - threatening to withhold the Congress-approved assistance. See how things flip from nothingburger to crime of the century depending on whose guy we're talking about?

Same with investigating a candidate: it's taboo this year because our guy is the challenger but it was perfectly ok when our guy was the incumbent. And vice versa. Politics do this to people.
137   HeadSet   2023 Apr 5, 9:29am  

RWSGFY says

And the previous Trump thing was EXACTLY the same as that Biden thing - threatening to withhold the Congress-approved assistance.

When did Trump threaten to withhold Congress-approved assistance?
143   Patrick   2023 Apr 5, 11:01am  




Lol, even Bolton, who hates Trump.

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