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The_Deplorable says

This is from former Indian ambassador MK Bhadrakumar:

"Make no mistake, this is a tipping point; the clumsy attempt on Putin’s life jolts the kaleidoscope beyond recognition. The only comforting thought is that the Kremlin leadership is not going to be driven by emotion. The considered Kremlin reaction is available from the remarks by the Russian Ambassador to the US, Anatoly Antonov:
"How would Americans react if a drone hit the White House, the Capitol or the Pentagon? The answer is obvious for any politician as well as for an average citizen: the punishment will be harsh and inevitable." https://www.indianpunchline.com/zelensky-regimes-fate-is-sealed/ and https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/05/zelenskis-regime-is-finished.html#more

So scary. Yeat so vague. Is it going to be worse than the Armageddon promised by our favorite clown - Medvedev - for any hit on Crimea about a year ago? What happened to that? It's not like military installations in Crimea weren't hit like 20 times already...

Eric Holder says

So scary. Yeat so vague.

No it's not vague.

They are saying they will take well considered thought out actions. What those actions might be I have no idea, but they will take weeks or months to consider options.

If this happened to the WhiteHouse the "news" anchors would be calling for nuclear war at this point, and doing this 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

The US moron Neocons have repeatedly said they aim for regime change in Russia. Russia has said, actually repeatedly, that it doesn't matter who is president, foreign policy doesn't change because the president isn't really the president, it's puppet. They'd have to assassinate a bunch of Neocons to change foreign policy, and frankly if they did, they'd be doing us and the world a favor.

richwicks says

Eric Holder says

So scary. Yeat so vague.

No it's not vague.

They are saying they will take well considered thought out actions. What those actions might be I have no idea, but they will take weeks or months to consider options.

Ah, so they are still mulling their options wrt "Armageddon" after a year of hits on Crimean installations? Good to know.

Eric Holder says

Ah, so they are still mulling their options wrt "Armageddon" after a year of hits on Crimean installations? Good to know.

Look, the United States, Russia, and China all have the ability to basically end the world.

This isn't in anybody's interest though, but it will be used as revenge as which-ever country is conquered.

Notice nobody acted on Russia when the USSR collapsed. China didn't take the opportunity to settle border disputes, the US didn't roll into the country, Europe stepped back. Why do you think that is?

If Moscow has a nuclear weapon dropped on it, we're all probably dead. Same thing with Washington DC, or Beijing. Maybe you're just too young to remember the Cold War. I just can't believe how stupid people are to restart the Cold War, or people celebrating it especially my age and over it, or thinking Ukraine is going to win this war, after the US left 80 billion dollars of equipment in Afghanistan after 20 years.

Ukraine's military, what's left of them are the walking dead.

In my thinking, the bombing of the Kremlin in Moscow, is a decisive event in the Ukranian conflict.

Dmitry Medvedev: "After today’s terrorist attack, there are no options left except for the physical elimination of Zelensky and his clique." https://www.indianpunchline.com/zelensky-regimes-fate-is-sealed/

Truth be told, it was such a lame and obviously abortive attack, one cannot parse the means or motives, from possible Russian false flag for internal political purge to psycho Globalist effort to get Putin to burn down the evidence of their Ukrainian crime restaurant with nuclear fires.

I imagine they are trying to figure it out, too, there must be some tracking of the drones from point of origin. It's about 250 miles from closest Ukrainian border spot to Moscow.

Ceffer says

I imagine they are trying to figure it out, too, there must be some tracking of the drones from point of origin. It's about 250 miles from closest Ukrainian border spot to Moscow.

I ALSO consider the POSSIBILITY that this is internal strife within Russia, but since the US has already blamed Russia, I'm assuming it was a direct US attack, not meant to damage but to intimidate and enrage.

The FSB will investigate. It was a lame attack, if they wanted to really kill Putin, it would have been a missile and the done would have been filled with C4.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/good-catch-thursday-may-4-2023-c

Once again, nobody’s taken responsibility for the attack, except everyone is accusing everyone else, and U.S. corporate media keeps mentioning the possibility that Russia attacked itself, like they always say, since Russia probably also blew up its own multi-billion-dollar underwater gas pipeline as well as its lengthy Kerch Bridge to Crimea. Now, supposedly, it’s trying to assassinate its own president to make Ukraine look bad or something.

It’s such a dumb theory you can almost detect the news anchors, forced to repeat the stupid self-attack possibility every time the story comes back around, painfully going through the motions, but with their plaintive eyes desperately signaling they’ve been kidnapped and need us to call 911. ...

Zelensky made it clear: this was a serious matter, and the Ukrainians get no advantage whatsoever from the attack. On the other hand, within hours of the drones being shot down, the Ukrainian Postal Service (UPS) had produced brand new stamps and an entire full-sized commemorative display memorializing the attack on the Kremlin.

Well, it is POSSIBLE that elements in Russia facilitated the attack, who and to what end are the questions. Of course, NATO, Globalists, CIA etc. etc. are the most likely suspects, as usual. Means, motive and opportunity are still murky. I think the Russian government false flagging itself is beginning to fade a bit. It just doesn't seem to be their current style.

Who is They? More than likely Putin is one of “them.”

Ceffer says

Did "They" Just Try To Assassinate Putin?

Are you thinking that a non binary homo that uses preferred pronouns tried to kill Putin?

richwicks says

The US moron Neocons have repeatedly said they aim for regime change in Russia.

There are no conservatives in the Birdbrain Biden Administration. These are globalist marxisrichwicks says

They'd have to assassinate a bunch of Neocons to change foreign policy, and frankly if they did, they'd be doing us and the world a favor.

Bill Clinton's foreign policy such as in the former Yugoslavia was based on neoconservatism.

Who other than Nuland is a neocon in Birdbrain Biden's admin ?

richwicks says

I ALSO consider the POSSIBILITY that this is internal strife within Russia, but since the US has already blamed Russia, I'm assuming it was a direct US attack, not meant to damage but to intimidate and enrage.

Its no benefit at all, and it just galvanizes the Russian public more. So anyone who is not strongly for the war, will feel compelled to increase their support for the war.

It would be better to take out infrastructure like a fuel farm used by the Russian army or a barrack in eastern Ukraine occupied by Russian military officers. These attacks provide a better return on investment.

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richwicks says

The US moron Neocons have repeatedly said they aim for regime change in Russia.

There are no conservatives in the Birdbrain Biden Administration. These are globalist marxists

No they aren't, they are fascists. The signs are all there. We have a media that lies consistently, a foreign policy exclusively of war, repression of the population, censorship and absolutely NO accountability in government where government openly colludes with business to the point that heads of drug companies run the FDA and CDC, and a completely ignorant population that doesn't care.

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richwicks says

They'd have to assassinate a bunch of Neocons to change foreign policy, and frankly if they did, they'd be doing us and the world a favor.

Bill Clinton's foreign policy such as in the former Yugoslavia was based on neoconservatism.

Who other than Nuland is a neocon in Birdbrain Biden's admin ?

They are all Neocons.

Neocon is just a polite word for "fascist". There were original open communist in the 1980's, what they actually are, are authoritarians. Communism, fascism, either way. They don't care.

The economic system under communism is that the state runs all business. The economic system under fascism is that corporations run the government. It doesn't matter "who runs who" - the point is centralized authoritarian control. We get the same assholes in charge either way.

komputodo says

Are you thinking that a non binary homo that uses preferred pronouns tried to kill Putin?

I didn't think of it that way, but I like it.

Did They Just Try To Assassinate Putin?

No. Bomb wasn't nearly big enough. I'm not sure if it even damaged the roof. Either a false flag or someone sending a message.

zzyzzx says

Did They Just Try To Assassinate Putin?

No. Bomb wasn't nearly big enough. I'm not sure if it even damaged the roof. Either a false flag or someone sending a message.

i’m leaning toward it being a message of “if we need to we will kill you”.

richwicks says

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richwicks says

The US moron Neocons have repeatedly said they aim for regime change in Russia.

There are no conservatives in the Birdbrain Biden Administration. These are globalist marxists

No they aren't, they are fascists

richwicks says

The economic system under communism is that the state runs all business. The economic system under fascism is that corporations run the government. It doesn't matter "who runs who" - the point is centralized authoritarian control. We get the same assholes in charge either way.

So quit arguing semantics and start recruiting leaders who oppose central authority.

By the way you neglected to mention the most important part. The bankers fund the corporations that control the government, and the bankers fund the government too, so they de facto run the government, plus they own most of the high ranking politicians through various forms of corruption. So bankers run the world. So when America disintegrates, they will replace it with a government that doesn’t allow free speech, right to bear arms, freedom of property and assembly, because the bankers don’t believe that you have any rights.

richwicks says

The economic system under fascism is that corporations run the government.

You got that backwards. Under Fascism, like in Mussolini's Italy or Hitler's Germany, the government controls but does not own corporations. China today has evolved from Communism to Fascism by allowing private corporations but under the strict hand of the CCP. When corporations control government, that is known as corruption..

PeopleUnited says

So quit arguing semantics and start recruiting leaders who oppose central authority.

You mean Libertarians? Like Lew Rockwell? How about Ron Paul? This fight is more than 50 years old. The problem is that it's hard to make the average person recognize that decentralization is necessary and good. We already have leaders, but decentralization is the goal, so...

You HAVE TO WAIT to the point where people get sick of centralization of authority before you make a solution. You have to.

Bit-torrent is regarded as being a pirate only program. It's not. If it came out today, instead of, what 15 years ago?, it would have been the basis of Web 3.0 - it does have some problems though, DHT is stupid and pointless in my opinion, you can't hide meta-data. Either it's not possible, or I'm not smart enough to see a solution, and I've looked for a lot of solutions, nobody has come up with it.

PeopleUnited says

By the way you neglected to mention the most important part. The bankers fund the corporations that control the government, and the bankers fund the government too, so they de facto run the government, plus they own most of the high ranking politicians through various forms of corruption.

I know this, I've stated it - the Federal Reserve is our real government. Intelligence agencies fall under them, and under them are our "elected" politicians. The elected politicians can remove both, but won't, because most of them aren't elected.

How do you think we got a moron like Kamala Harris as our VP? Or Joe Biden?

PeopleUnited says

So when America disintegrates, they will replace it with a government that doesn’t allow free speech, right to bear arms, freedom of property and assembly, because the bankers don’t believe that you have any rights.

The problem is, that people do not believe they have any rights. They won't stand up.

I try to point out that people's rights have been stolen, to deaf ears.

I was 19 when Nayirah al-Ṣabaḥ lied to congress to produce CRUCIAL propaganda to lie MY generation into a war in Iraq, the first Iraq War, Operation Desert Storm. When it was discovered who she was, what she was, I thought it would be a bombshell. It should have been but it wasn't. Nobody even cares that the "mainstream media" is bullshit and propaganda.

If you want a right to information and knowledge, you need to seize it, it's not given out.

Well, with the recent Wagner palace revolt thing in Bahkmut, one has to wonder if this is internal Russian politics by default.
Prigozhin really lit into the Russian military command, to the great delight of all the Russkie hating agencies of the West.

Ceffer says

Well, with the recent Wagner palace revolt thing in Bahkmut, one has to wonder if this is internal Russian politics by default.
Prigozhin really lit into the Russian military command, to the great delight of all the Russkie hating agencies of the West.

And how do you know this is true?

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

zzyzzx says

Did They Just Try To Assassinate Putin?

No. Bomb wasn't nearly big enough. I'm not sure if it even damaged the roof. Either a false flag or someone sending a message.

i’m leaning toward it being a message of “if we need to we will kill you”.

I pelosi having a fence installed over the roof of the capitol building just in case?

komputodo says

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

zzyzzx says

Did They Just Try To Assassinate Putin?

No. Bomb wasn't nearly big enough. I'm not sure if it even damaged the roof. Either a false flag or someone sending a message.

i’m leaning toward it being a message of “if we need to we will kill you”.

I pelosi having a fence installed over the roof of the capitol building just in case?

If Putin regarded this as a real threat, he would just move quarters. This was a pointless attack.

The United States claimed this was a false flag, that Russia attacked itself - just like they did with Nordstream. This means this was a US attack. The US is trying to escalate the war. If Russia wants to retaliate, it won't be Biden they go after, it will be people like Victoria Nuland and other Neocon assholes. I'm sure the FSB knows what they are up against, I don't, I only know Victoria Nuland.

richwicks says

I know this, I've stated it - the Federal Reserve is our real government. Intelligence agencies fall under them, and under them are our "elected" politicians. The elected politicians can remove both, but won't, because most of them aren't elected.

Not exactly. The international shadow government that is operated by banksters is who runs the world. They cow people in high places to do their bidding through various means of bribery and coercion, and at times just inserting their own people into places of power. The federal reserve is not the government. But it is an apparatus that the shadow government uses to consolidate and perpetuate their control.

And you said it correctly, only the legitimate government can change that, and tell the banksters to pound sand.