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PITBULL death, maimings thread


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2023 Jan 14, 11:07am   24,016 views  169 comments

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I sick of this bullshit that Pitbulls are great, loving dogs. This fucking bread needs to be exterminated and I'm here to document how many people these little bastards kill and maim.

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131   richwicks   2023 Feb 28, 10:33am  

WookieMan says

richwicks says


WookieMan - if you you don't like dogs, don't get a dog

I've had 5.... They are an accessory. 100% useless


Then, this just reinforces my opinion that you're a terrible, completely objectionable person.

IF you're being serious, and not just trolling to be "the biggest jerk in the world", which I consider a possibility, you have SERIOUS problems.
132   RWSGFY   2023 Feb 28, 4:45pm  

WookieMan says

richwicks says


WookieMan - if you you don't like dogs, don't get a dog

I've had 5.... They are an accessory. 100% useless if they're not used for hunting and other tasks. That's not debatable. That's fact. There's a very limited segment of people that "needs" a dog. Hunting, service dog, dog sledding maybe and I'm not sure what else. We don't need drug dogs, that could be changed with laws.

We've created breeds that were never needed. A pit bull serves no purpose. I miss my dogs, but no one is understanding my point. Dogs are 99% not needed outside of service to their owner to survive or help gather food. 99% of owners get them as a toy essentially. You all know this too. Makes you feel good. No one is getting my point, but whatever. I hate cats fyi. So I'm not dog biased.

All pets are generally a resource drain if they don't work for the owner. Adopt a kid if ...


Most of things in life are unnecessary and a resource drain. Yes, this includes kids. And travel to some tropical shithokes for a beach vacation. And big powerful cars. And giant houses we tend to buy. So what? We still do it.
133   B.A.C.A.H.   2023 Feb 28, 4:56pm  

BayArea says

Is it ok to have people own lions and alligators in urban high density areas?

And semiautomatic handguns? because freedom.
134   Onvacation   2023 Feb 28, 4:59pm  

High density urban areas require belt fed. Semi-auto won't do.
135   GNL   2023 Feb 28, 5:53pm  

Onvacation says

High density urban areas require belt fed. Semi-auto won't do.

Most accurate comment I've read in a while.
136   WookieMan   2023 Feb 28, 6:38pm  

richwicks says

IF you're being serious, and not just trolling to be "the biggest jerk in the world", which I consider a possibility, you have SERIOUS problems.

I have no problems. Lol. Not trolling. I just tell the truth. Jealousy is not a good look for some of you guys.

Loved my dogs. Love my life without them. I have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Now or ever. I probably dislike my dogs somehow because of Iraq WMD's... Mirrors exist. In almost 15-18 years of being on this site, I've never seen a more negative user than you.

I'll let you all know how Florida and the Bahamas go in 3 weeks. Jesus fucking christ I didn't know men could be so thin skinned. Make your life better. Stop bitching and whining. I was one of the first if not the first that said in this site covid was bull shit. Yes I have a big car. I have a big family. Yes I tow a trailer. No I don't live in a shithole that you guys CONSTANTLY bitch about in CA.

Patrick has always been practical and open. Some of you guys are just dumb. Not gonna parse words. Grow up.
138   richwicks   2023 May 21, 9:50pm  

WookieMan says


In almost 15-18 years of being on this site, I've never seen a more negative user than you.


Ah, that's comforting to hear. I'm at the vanguard.

WookieMan says


ll let you all know how Florida and the Bahamas go in 3 weeks. Jesus fucking christ I didn't know men could be so thin skinned.


I've lived all over the country and traveled the planet. It's not an accomplishment. You're going to go to some safe haven resort to see other stupid Americans to enjoy a controlled artificial environment and think you've gone somewhere.

That's what you are going to do. How's your skin?

The only thing worth acquiring is knowledge, and you're never going to do that. I started this in my 20's. Experiences.. It's all controlled and in your mind. It's just endless clutter.

WookieMan says


Patrick has always been practical and open. Some of you guys are just dumb. Not gonna parse words. Grow up.


You're the one telling me where you're going on a trip. Why?

You want to attract envy. That's why you are doing it. Isn't that correct?
139   WookieMan   2023 May 22, 1:33am  

richwicks says

You're the one telling me where you're going on a trip. Why?

You want to attract envy. That's why you are doing it. Isn't that correct?

Because I can. Zero to do with envy. My wife and I live with jealousy from others on a daily basis. I've simply given up caring and just talk about what I want in public or anywhere. If that bothers someone they can eat shit.

richwicks says

I've lived all over the country and traveled the planet.

Highly unlikely, but hey, good for you. Instead of being an ass, be like "hey dude that's cool, have fun." The hypocrisy with this is laughable as well. "Don't talk about your trip, I traveled the universe....." lol.
140   richwicks   2023 May 23, 1:27am  

WookieMan says


Because I can. Zero to do with envy.


Well, possibly. Why do you think anybody would care?

WookieMan says


My wife and I live with jealousy from others on a daily basis.


Perhaps. Small people you live around.

WookieMan says


I've simply given up caring and just talk about what I want in public or anywhere. If that bothers someone they can eat shit.


Why would you think it bothers anybody?

There's people though that live entirely based off from the respect of others, their perceived respect of others is the only thing that justifies their own self worth. They buy Gucci, Pravda, Balenciaga, they have to have a Lexus or similar, they wear a Rolex, they have a huge pain in the ass white elephant home, they always need to be envied. That's their entire self worth.

Keeping up with the Joneses. Join the rat race, get to the finish line first, for no reason. It's not about their own enjoyment or their own self worth, it's "to be better than the rest". A fruitless existence. That was my parents. They're not bad people, not in any way, but Jesus, it was just about constant competition with their peers. All about appearance. I saw this directly, and it's just a dismal existence to me. A very 50's viewpoint of "success". Accumulate status, nothing else.

They don't need to be educated, knowledgeable, self aware, confident, anything like that. Their entire self worth is based on the perceived envy of others. I hated it. I much prefer to be anonymous, not envied, self aware, and able to understand any viewpoint. It's all in your mind. Nobody outside of me influences me, I'm so opposite. Maybe I've gone too far but I enjoy it. I am truly arrogant, however, I'm fully aware I do make mistakes, I'm ignorant, and I'm often wrong. I'll passively accept correction to continually improve. That's all I'm interested in. I don't know if arrogant is the right word. I'm looking to be a teacher, I'm looking for wisdom, I've achieved it in SOME ways. I know I don't know and at the same time, I know I know more than most. I consider that arrogance to say that.

I was like my parents in my 20's. That wore out quick. I was in Colorado, Boston, even Indiana - those Midwesterners couldn't be that bad, I hated them at the time, I respect them now, finally fell into Silly Con Valley. We're all smart, supposedly, nope! Idiot savants.

WookieMan says


Highly unlikely, but hey, good for you. Instead of being an ass, be like "hey dude that's cool, have fun." The hypocrisy with this is laughable as well. "Don't talk about your trip, I traveled the universe....." lol.


It doesn't matter where I lived, that's why I never talk about it. All that matters is what I know, and there's an infinite amount of what I don't know.

I'm always looking for pushback, and if I'm wrong about something I THINK I know, maybe I am, if I am, I'll absorb it, and I'll even admit error. Almost everything worthwhile I've learned in my lifetime was from finding out I'm wrong.

I do my absolute best to abandon ego in learning.

You are materialist, I grew up with that. When I was a kid, I grew up in a fucking museum. There were literally rooms I couldn't step into. Those were for guests only. It just seems so ludicrous to me. It was all about impressing people my parents were "friends" with, they barely knew. God, networking, it's just sucking up. It's beneath me.

It's that what you impose? Or are you "beneath my parents"?

Nobody gives a shit where you fly to. I can fly to Argentina tomorrow and visit my cousin, or go to Poland and see my 3rd cousins, tomorrow. Why would I want to do this? Amazing architecture, different culture, but I've my fill of it. You're going to an enclave of a bunch of American tourists in an American tourist site. You haven't gone anywhere.

When I went to Paris, I stayed in the 5th arrondissement. I stayed there, because I didn't want to be around a bunch of tourists. My french is shaky, but I could get by and it was much more interesting to interact with the population than other Americans there on business.

I'm not trying to embarrass you or shame you. There's more to life than accumulation of crap. So interesting to see other points of view, and that's what I've done for a long long time. Listen to other people, shut the fuck up, and resolve the differences between everybody you talk with silently. Almost nobody knows what is actually happening, but talk to enough of them, and you can figure it out.

I don't want your life. I can go summer in a cabin on a lake for 4 months, and I never have. I think you search for experiences, that's wears out, or did for me. I'm searching for knowledge, and I know how fucking stupid we all are and I'm no exception.
141   WookieMan   2023 May 23, 4:12am  

TL:DR.....
142   richwicks   2023 May 23, 12:21pm  

WookieMan says

TL:DR.....


All you're telling me with that is you cover your eyes and plug your ears. It's just willful ignorance.
143   mell   2023 May 23, 2:01pm  

richwicks says


When I was a kid, I grew up in a fucking museum. There were literally rooms I couldn't step into. Those were for guests only. It just seems so ludicrous to me. It was all about impressing people my parents were "friends" with, they barely knew. God, networking, it's just sucking up. It's beneath me.

I'd agree with this. When I was working hard and playing harder the only reason to network was to get laid. But there is a fine line between materialism and comfort and independence. The reason I have been working towards financial independence is to be as independent from others as possible, and increase my zero fucks given game for leftoid bullshit. No more working for the man, enjoying your hobbies, family, it's the better life. That being said, having a nice house in nature is great, but I don't give a fuck about impressing others. You have to compromise though if you want family and live in a family setting. Womyn and family structures always are at least somewhat about representing and showing off, and for good reasons initially. It meant your family weren't thugs, but trustworthy, and honorable businessmen, it's a positive feedback loop. But over time it has spiraled into mindless consumerism and impressing others. A man by himself can live a minimalistic life style, a family man has to compromise somewhat. Also often the boundaries are between being polite and tidy by showing guests a neat home and showing off / impressing them are blurry, one is about manners, the other about consumerism. Occasionally I have to remind my wife that I am not cleaning up for the cleaning lady, and not for my friends who have known me forever, that's reserved for her entourage.
144   richwicks   2023 May 23, 2:57pm  

mell says



I'd agree with this. When I was working hard and playing harder the only reason to network was to get laid. But there is a fine line between materialism and comfort and independence. The reason I have been working towards financial independence is to be as independent from others as possible, and increase my zero fucks given game for leftoid bullshit. No more working for the man, enjoying your hobbies, family, it's the better life. That being said, having a nice house in nat (some text omitted to shorten quote...) consumerism and impressing others. A man by himself can live a minimalistic life style, a family man has to compromise somewhat. Also often the boundaries are between being polite and tidy by showing guests a neat home and showing off / impressing them are blurry, one is about manners, the other about consumerism. Occasionally I have to remind my wife that I am not cleaning up for the cleaning lady, and not for my friends who have known me forever, that's reserved for her entourage.


I can find financial independence, to a point, but once you leave the system you can't effect it. I feel a duty to stay in it, although I'm out of it for now. I had to withdraw to maintain sanity as people were telling me "the unvaccinated pose a threat to the vaccinated" without any sense of irony. I live among nutcases.

Status to me is simply knowledge. There are people so much more knowledgeable than I am on certain subjects. I'm compelled to spread this information. I'm considering making a game, which probably won't make me anything, that is called "Conspiracy". The idea is just give the player a bunch of questions about recent current events, with answers that are ruthlessly researched to be correct, let them draw the conclusions from what they unwittingly learn from the game. Every single question has to be absolutely correct, and researchable. There can be no room for any error.

I can do this for 9/11, Jeffrey Epstein, JFK, a bunch of things. Basically it would just be a bunch of questions of all the facts I know, and can prove to be true, and let the player just answer the questions, and later, put the pieces together themselves, without intervention. The game superficially is to know facts, but really, it's to allow them to experience what I experience in putting the facts together when they have all the facts.

The reason people don't do this already is they aren't plagued with my memory. I remember when Hunter Biden was hired for Burisma in 2014, and I remember Joe Biden getting Viktor Shokin fired in 2016.

Back to your post - women are always looking for status. I hate that about them. But most people are, but women, I've never found a woman not looking for it.

You know what would my dream home would be? A geodesic dome that contains a lawn and plants for 70% of the space, and a small area for sleeping, kitchen, and bathroom - heated throughout the year. Inside is outdoors, even when it's snowing. I still might build that one day, but I'll be fucked in taxes if I do. Basically, the living area, is just a literal living area.
145   mell   2023 May 23, 3:01pm  

Just build or buy a minimalistic Eichler.
146   richwicks   2023 May 23, 3:08pm  

mell says


Just build or buy a minimalistic Eichler.


Doesn't go far enough.

Living area that is alive, that is independent of the elements is what I want. The kitchen can be "outdoors". Some food fall to the ground? The ants will take care of it. The idea is the only thing that has to be devoid of spiders, ants, roaches, is the tiny bedrooms, the bathrooms, and where you store the food.

THOSE you need to clean. Nothing else.

How nice would that be? Step out of your bedroom onto a lawn, in your barefeet, in the middle of winter, in 72 degrees Fahrenheit? Walk down the path to the bathroom, and shower, and go to work. You're going to have to mow the lawn inside though.
147   RWSGFY   2023 May 23, 3:38pm  

I walk mu dog past one fenced yard where 2 pitbulls reside. Every time we walk by they first bark
and jump at the fence but then they turn on each other and fight. Every. Single. Time.

These people used to have a very good-mannered and intelligent full-size Aussie. What in the world has posessed them to adopt these two mongrels... Must be all the "rescue" propaganda.
148   RWSGFY   2023 May 23, 3:40pm  

mell says


Just build or buy a minimalistic Eichler.


For a pitbull? I had no idea they were THAT high-maintenance.
149   richwicks   2023 May 23, 3:46pm  

RWSGFY says

I walk mu dog past one fenced yard where 2 pitbulls reside. Every time we walk by they first bark
and jump at the fence but then they turn on each other and fight. Every. Single. Time.


Next time I go to a certain liquor store, if I can remember, and if he's there, I'll record a very nice pit bull. He's very affectionate, and intimidating, but a very nice dog. He loves affection.

I don't know what the situation is, I think maybe the guy that owns the dog MIGHT be homeless, but it's a very nice dog. Very sweet, and it's built like a brickshithouse. It's not just weight that matters either, I offered to give my neighbor's dog a bath that had NEVER gotten a bath (long story in that, they aren't bad owners but the previous one was), and good fucking lord, he was strong. 5 minute bath was 30 minutes of struggle. The dog is strong as hell, and about 25 lbs.

That dog at the liquor store I could take, if I had to, but not without being fucked up, and only because I can pick it up, and I can ignore pain. But he's a very nice dog. I can't imagine that dog turning on somebody. Super nice animal.
150   Onvacation   2023 May 23, 4:38pm  

Pitbull's have jaws that are bigger than their brains. Most of the Pit's I have met are sweet and loyal. Then there is that ghetto breed that pulls against the spiked collar as if he is ready to kill. I would also keep my distance from anyone walking their lion, tiger, or bear down the street.

I prefer my little poodle. She's low maintenance and doesn't shed.

151   richwicks   2023 May 23, 5:54pm  

Onvacation says


I prefer my little poodle. She's low maintenance and doesn't shed.


I prefer Samoyeds:



They DO shed, and TREMENDOUSLY, but they are very nice dogs, and they have no dander.

Tell me that's not gorgeous. They are not easy to own though, they really shed a lot of hair and to a degree you can't appreciate until you own one. It's like having 4 huskies when you only have 1 samoyed. But they are just wonderful dogs, if you are willing to vacuum constantly and comb them out at least once a week.

BTW, that dog just came from a grooming in the picture. I can tell by the fuzz of the picture. That only lasts for a couple of days after grooming. That's probably a dog that won some sort of championship. A normal Samoyed is more like this:



They are still gorgeous. That dog is on the verge of needing a bath, bet you can't tell. The fur isn't uniform, so it's sticking up in odd places, their color remains largely the same, but I can see dirt. Put a white samoyed in a bathtub, you end up with black water. It's so weird.

They really are living teddy bears, that shed tremendously. I adore those dogs. Glad they aren't popular anymore.
152   Onvacation   2023 May 23, 8:12pm  

richwicks says

A normal Samoyed is more like this:

What a gorgeous dog! Look at that smile!

Ex had a Keeshond. Hair everywhere.
153   Onvacation   2023 May 23, 8:13pm  

Pitbull's are protective of their people.
154   WookieMan   2023 May 24, 6:30am  

richwicks says

It's just willful ignorance.

Nope. Just don't care about people whining about shit constantly and not doing a damn thing about it. I'm an elected official for fucks sake. Let me know what you're doing to change a damn thing besides whining on the internet? I make change. Going to a meeting or something like that is lazy, we don't listen to you. Get involved. Your ignorance is maybe the most I've seen here on Patnet and that's saying a lot.
155   richwicks   2023 May 24, 7:51am  

Onvacation says

Ex had a Keeshond. Hair everywhere.


I think Keeshonds might compete with the hair part. Samoyeds, just a nightmare of hair. They are such nice dogs, but you better have a great vacuum cleaner to have one. I had to comb them out at least once a week, and bath, oh my god. Start on Friday night, 3 hour walk to have them dry out to being just damp, next day, start grooming them, Sunday finish. 3 days to properly clean them, and that's once a month.

I love these dogs, but I'm never doing it again. They are gorgeous, but god, so much work to have one.

My neighbor in college had one, I fell in love with the damned thing, I wanted to have a dog, I joined rescue had NO IDEA or PLAN to adopt one, got two that really couldn't be adopted needed a ton of work, was stuck with them. A good experience, but so much work. I don't regret it at all, but I'm not going to do it again. I was the best possible owner for my two.
156   richwicks   2023 May 24, 7:54am  

WookieMan says

Nope. Just don't care about people whining about shit constantly and not doing a damn thing about it. I'm an elected official for fucks sake. Let me know what you're doing to change a damn thing besides whining on the internet?


You're an elected official.

Let me know when you change a fucking thing. You're in the position to do it.
157   NuttBoxer   2023 May 24, 9:09am  

RWSGFY says

I walk mu dog past one fenced yard where 2 pitbulls reside. Every time we walk by they first bark
and jump at the fence but then they turn on each other and fight. Every. Single. Time.


This is pretty common if the barking dog is not the dominate one. The dominate dog is attempting to make the non-dominate calm down. I've seen this lots of times, different dogs, different breeds.
158   richwicks   2023 May 24, 9:35am  

NuttBoxer says


RWSGFY says


I walk my dog past one fenced yard where 2 pitbulls reside. Every time we walk by they first bark
and jump at the fence but then they turn on each other and fight. Every. Single. Time.


This is pretty common if the barking dog is not the dominate one. The dominate dog is attempting to make the non-dominate calm down. I've seen this lots of times, different dogs, different breeds.



It's not necessarily that. Sometimes, the dog just wants to meet.

When I had my dogs, and was walking them around town, there were some times a dog that would go crazy behind a fence. They just wanted to meet. They were desperate to be in contact with another dog, not aggressive.

I had each of my dogs for 14 years (didn't entirely overlap, 2 years they didn't) and they just wanted to meet. Barking isn't necessarily a sign of aggression, but I bet it can be.

They are pack animals. I don't know if humanity alone is enough to satisfy their primal nature. They are basically a herd animal. They have a pack instinct. They want to join.

Regrettably, my female Samoyed, was terrified of other dogs. Something happened to her, and I could never fix it. Some asshole dog beat the fuck of her I think. Poor animal. She loved people, but was terrified of other dogs. I wish I could have fixed that in her lifetime. She could never play with other dogs. She was afraid of them and couldn't trust them. My other dog was the nicest dog imaginable, would back off and stand down when he went too far. She got along with him, but only him. He was the perfect dog for foster and rescue, he understood other dogs in a way I envy. He got along with everybody except one dog that attacked me, and I deserved it. I had to comb out and groom that dog, and he bit me, Kelsey never forgave him, which is a pity, because I wasn't that hurt and I went too far too quick. Coco was a good dog too, terribly abused, terrified of people.

I'm glad I had them all, but I cannot do it again. It really gives you a different viewpoint on life. I was lucky to stumble into what I had.
159   NuttBoxer   2023 May 24, 5:43pm  

For sure. Most common behavior issues with most dogs stem from not being walked or properly trained. I didn't assume aggression in the example given at all. Aggression wouldn't cause one dog to appear to fight the other, but excitement would.
160   WookieMan   2023 May 25, 4:56am  

richwicks says

Let me know when you change a fucking thing. You're in the position to do it.

I am. In a big way. Just not federally. Let me know what you've done besides bitching at a meeting. Listen dude I may sound like I talk a big game, but I'm actually playing the game. My wife does too. I can't fucking sleep at night, am up at 4am and up till 2am getting shit done. 3 kids. Fucking do something and stop bitching.
161   richwicks   2023 May 25, 2:33pm  

WookieMan says


I am. In a big way. Just not federally. Let me know what you've done besides bitching at a meeting


I don't bitch at a meeting.

My job is to provide communications. The world hasn't changed in at least 30 years, we always had propaganda media, we always had bullshit, always. At LEAST for 30 years, perhaps much longer.

The difference is, you're aware of it now and I'm part of that effort.

You wouldn't even be able to talk it it wasn't for people like me. That's what I've worked on for 1/2 my life. I'm just a little cog in that machine, I don't know how much I've provided in that effort, but I've been part of that effort.

You can bitch and whine I dump here out of frustration, go ahead. The most fundamental thing is for you to SEE a problem. I can't fix the problems, but I sure as shit can expose them. I've sunk companies for pulling bullshit, and I was right to do it. You'll never know the company, you'll never know what I exposed. I've made SOME differences, but it's fatal to me to expose what I've done.

It's dangerous for me to even admit I've done this. However, companies need to realize they have people who will expose them and destroy them when they fucking break the law and we are nerds, I can silently and safely share information they will never identify me. Don't be assholes assholes.

There's a deficit of people like me within government.

Here's one I can discuss because it was such a large effort. I helped to destroy SCO Unix, Caldera. They tried to falsely claim that System V was placed into the Linux kernel. I'm ONE of the people that proved that was false. The attempt here was to scuttle Linux, which is what 90% of the Internet runs on. Because of SOME of my effort, Darl McBride is nobody. I helped ruin him but I was just small part, but I contributed, added information, helped to destroy that asshole.

You have no idea what wars even exist. You're in the surface, I'm in the guts. No soldier wins the war alone. I don't know what effect I've had, but I've been in plenty of battles.
162   Eric Holder   2023 May 26, 1:23pm  

WTF Samoyeds are doing in the pitbull thread? I've never heard of anyone killed or maimed by a Samoyed. It's literally fucking polar opposite of a pitbull.
163   richwicks   2023 May 26, 1:39pm  

Eric Holder says

WTF Samoyeds are doing in the pitbull thread? I've never heard of anyone killed or maimed by a Samoyed. It's literally fucking polar opposite of a pitbull.


I love them. That's why!

I like nearly any dog, but I love Samoyeds.
164   NuttBoxer   2023 May 31, 8:50am  

The dog that bit my nieces head looked a lot more like a Samoyed than a Pitbull(Siberian Husky). If you're into that genetic bullshit, what does that say...
166   NuttBoxer   2023 Jun 30, 8:20am  

If people are interested in facts rather than sensationalism:
https://www.avma.org/resources/pet-owners/why-breed-specific-legislation-not-answer
https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/pitbull-statistics/

Of greatest interest are the facts that Pit Bulls carry very little genetic traits from their ancestors, and most of the time dogs breed determination is wrong.

The only dog that ever bit me was my Grampa's German Shepard. The only dog that ever bit at a family gathering was my Aunt's Siberian Husky. And my brother-in-law breeds American Bullies, that my daughter has been around since she was a year old. Same husky made my wife very uncomfortable when it was around same daughter one time we visited.
169   richwicks   2023 Sep 22, 3:45pm  

NuttBoxer says


The dog that bit my nieces head looked a lot more like a Samoyed than a Pitbull(Siberian Husky). If you're into that genetic bullshit, what does that say...


@NuttBoxer - the dog looked like this?



Are you sure it wasn't smaller, something like this?



The first is a Samoyed, the second is a Spitz. A Samoyed is little larger than a Siberian, but smaller than a malamute. A Spitz is a "toy dog".

Samoyeds are VERY rarely aggressive. The breed was created in what is now Siberia. They had 3 jobs - pull sleds, herd reindeer, and keep children warm at night. If the dog showed the SLIGHTEST bit of aggression, it was immediately killed.

I had a HORRIFICALLY abused Samoyed. He actually did bite me, I deserved it because I was forcibly combing him out, confident I could control him. He had to be combed out and groomed. He was a bit more flexible than I imagined. He bit me, then he defecated because he expected me to beat the hell out of him. He was terrified of me. I carried him into the crate, and cleaned out the wound. I carried him to show how strong I was, and how easily I could deal with him if he really wanted to fight.

That dog was so abused, that he wouldn't urinate or defecate in front of me. I had to get up, tie him to a light pole, leave him, and come back because his previous owner never took him out, and beat him savagely when he defecated or urinated in the home. That poor dog.

Even that dog I don't think would have bitten a random stranger. Certainly didn't trust people though. He might bite, but in defense then run. He would never maul somebody. When he not me, he got a good connection, realized what he'd done, then panicked.

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