patrick.net

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/chelsea-clinton-comes-out-favor-porn-school-kids

comments are priceless

This lady's Instagram is finallyfran. Some odd posts showing a very young child with birthday messages for a much older girl. There's a couple of these messages in the emails. This person does work as a realtor, but the fact that both brothers are always involved in the emails, plus her Instagram account...

Grazie

Fran Shapiro
Licensed Real Estate Salesperson

Engel & Völkers Mercedes/Berk
783 Madison Avenue, 3rd Floor
New York, NY 10065
Tel: +1 646-661-2079

Cell: +1 347-556-4409
mercedesberk.com

On Mar 17, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Tony Podesta wrote:

Ok by me

From: Fran Shapiro [mailto:fran@mercedesberk.com ]
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 4:52 PM
To: Tony Podesta ; John Podesta
Subject: Showing: Fri 2 p.m. - Open House: Sunday 1:00 - 2:00

Thank you!

Fran

Fran Shapiro

Licensed Real Estate Salesperson

Engel & Völkers
Mercedes/Berk

783 Madison Avenue, 3rd Floor

New York, NY 10065

Tel: +1 646-661-2079

Cell: +1 347-556-4409

mercedesberk.com

This picture was attached in an email from Megan Rouse to the Podesta's. Subject is just birthday. Looks like some of the Podesta's art in the background.

Email from Milia Fisher to Sara Latham:
"Third chef at Tony's was James Alefantis, Owner, Buck’s Fishing & Camping; Comet Ping Pong"

> From: Catherine Chieco
> Date: October 20, 2015 at 6:22:49 PM GMT+2
> To: Mary Podesta , Mary Dickie , Leslie Dach , Alan Kriegel , James Alefantis , Paula Dailey , Brian ARS , "Tom.Cunningham@uatp.com" , Rhett Workman , Amy Weiss , Peter Kadzik
> Subject: friday night at posto for Tony's birthday...
>
> Will you join us?
> Small gathering a few days before the pizza extravaganza
> Time TBA but probably 7:30 ish
> RSVP please!

Homemade Podesta dinner, IN
I'm almost there.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 24, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Tony Podesta wrote:

> At laguardia
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 24, 2015, at 8:28 PM, John Podesta wrote:
>
>> I'll be there in about 15 minutes and will start cooking
>> I think Sara is coming.
>> On Oct 24, 2015 8:15 PM, "Tony Podesta" wrote:
>>
>> There's a magnum of Spanish wine in master closet
>> Wanna open?
>> Vin u coming?
>> Let us know when you are on way home
>> Tony
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone

There are a LOT of dinner emails between the brothers and Mary Podesta. Most don't have anything that stands out, but then you get ones like this:


Are you in NYC Thursday July 9
Marina wants you to come to dinner
Mary?

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Marina Abramovic
> Date: June 28, 2015 at 2:35:08 AM GMT+2
> To: Tony Podesta
> Subject: Dinner
>
> Dear Tony,
>
> I am so looking forward to the Spirit Cooking dinner at my place. Do you think you will be able to let me know if your brother is joining?
>
> All my love, Marina
>
> --
> ABRAMOVIC LLC
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Current & Upcoming Exhibitions & Events
>
> Feature, The New York Times, Marina Abramovic To Publish a Memoir in 2016
> Terra Comunal, Marina Abramovic + MAI, SESC Pompeia, São Paulo
>
> 2015
>
> May
> 6 - November 22, Proportio, curated by Axel Vervoordt, Palazzo Fortuny, Venezia
>
> June
> 13 - October 5, Solo Exhibition, Private Archaeology, MONA, Tasmania
> 24 - July 5, Marina Abramovic: In Residence, Kaldor Public Art Projects, Pier 2/3, Sydney
> 30, Keynote Address, Roslyn Packer Theatre, Walsh Bay
>
> December
> 7-19, Goldberg Variations with Igor Levit, Park Avenue Armory, New York

"To Serve Children" It's a cookbook!

Karloff says

I have no doubt in my mind that it's a codeword involving kids, no matter how much gaslighting and "debunking" the legacy media runs for them. In fact, the media doth protest too much, which makes me believe it even more.

My wife and I still use code words and numbers to this day. Fortunately not for anything illegal currently. We used video game systems for some of it. When I was in high school Sega skill existed so that was weed and it was illegal statewide at least at the time. So we didn't want to be seen texting stupid shit or talking in the halls at school, you got the pot man? We'd say Sega in a normal way no one would even care about.

NuttBoxer says

There are a LOT of dinner emails between the brothers and Mary Podesta. Most don't have anything that stands out, but then you get ones like this:

What's weird about these is they don't mention location. Usually it's like "hey we're going to Chilis tonight wanna go?" And I can't stand Chilis, just mentioning a restaurant most people would know. I wouldn't say dinner. I also really don't know their regional nomenclature. In the Midwest around me it's "do you want to go out to eat?"

On the flip side these people do go out to eat a ton. The pizza thing is weird. We sit down and eat pizza if the kids are with us. My wife and I and our friends NEVER go out for pizza. We like it, but it's children's food. It would be the perfect code word. A code word like mini golf would be obvious. Pizza would be logical.

Number and time work better though. 11 is my wife and myself code word for shut the fuck up you're talking about things in front of people I don't like. As witnessed here I sometimes get animated, not angry or I'll be pretty explicit. My wife will say remember that time you had 11 brownies. I get it right away. Got to have code words, just NOT for illicit kid diddling.

WookieMan says

My wife will say remember that time you had 11 brownies. I get it right away. Got to have code words, just NOT for illicit kid diddling.

Odd choice of wording. "Remember that time you had 11 brownies" when Brownies are elementary aged Girl Scouts.

Some of Podesta’s own words: “would you like to play dominos on pizza or pasta” are weird enough. But couple them with James Alefantis’ instagram (j’aime l’enfants .. not much encoding there) with page after page of babies and toddlers, and we can know that high level DNC operatives are waist-deep in the sickest of perversions. The comments (“what what in the butt”) and imagery, including a toddler crawling through pinata debris of condoms and small alcohol bottles, are beyond any doubt IMO. The instagram has long since been taken down, but 4plebs still has the images.

HeadSet says

Odd choice of wording. "Remember that time you had 11 brownies" when Brownies are elementary aged Girl Scouts.

Jesus christ you're right, but it was the number. Not brownies. It's in the context of the conversation. Have you had 11 cars. Could be anything. 11 is the key. Could be at a dinner, "did you see that guy have 11 drinks?" I don't know why I went with brownies for my example.

Their goal is to ramp up the Western consumption of child sex object veal to 30 million a year instead of just 8 million a year.

They want open exchanges where parents can cash in their children, or baby farms (like salmon farms) dedicated to processing the veal. Industrializing children's flesh is their Holy Mission for Moloch.

@goofus see the Insta I reference in comment 4. The "showings" are always for an apartment the brothers seem to share, and they are very hooked into the apartment complex's entertainment schedule, and seem to get a lot of packages there.

Ceffer says

They want open exchanges where parents can cash in their children, or baby farms (like salmon farms) dedicated to processing the veal.

Nothing new there.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1080/1080-h/1080-h.htm

Patrick says

Ceffer says

They want open exchanges where parents can cash in their children, or baby farms (like salmon farms) dedicated to processing the veal.

Nothing new there.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1080/1080-h/1080-h.htm

That has got to be satire. Against abortion but not against harvesting children. Plus this:
"I have reckoned upon a medium, that a child just born will weigh 12 pounds"

Ask your wife what she would think about birthing a 12 lb baby.

HeadSet says

That has got to be satire.

Yes, some of the most famous satire ever written.

HeadSet says

That has got to be satire.

Yeah, it's Jonathan Swift's a Modest Proposal. Is THIS satire though?

https://americanfuturist.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/The-Protocols-of-the-Learned-Elders-of-Zion-In-Modern-English.pdf

That's famous too, but I don't know if it's not true. If you read it, you may be uncertain as well. It's said to be a fake created by the early USSR, but the early USSR is also said to be controlled by Jewish people. There is evidence that the Bolshevik Revolution was driven by Jewish lunatics, and they were purged under Stalin. It's not easy to find out if this is true.

Read everything that is banned. And I mean that. You need to know your enemies. I've read Mein Kampf, even tried the Chinese Little Red Book, but that was entirely nonsense. Don't take what you read seriously, you can decide later if it was or not. Takes time. And you can get kernels of truth in mounds of bullshit. The lie has many stories, the truth only one, finding out what is true takes a lot of digging through a sewer of lies.

Comparing Joly's "Dialogues in Hell," an attack on Napoleon III, and the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion," which contains the procedure of a Jewish conspiracy for world domination, shows that the latter was paraphrased and plagiarized from "Dialogues in Hell."

https://marcuse.faculty.history.ucsb.edu/classes/33d/projects/protzion/DelaCruzProtocolsMain.htm

richwicks says

Mein Kampf

Dozens of pages: "I, Hitler, argue that Germans need to Rule Slavs. Since there is the British Navy, and most overseas areas are taken, we must have our Colonies by Land - in the East."

Revisionist Apologetics: "Hitler never wanted to Take over the East and Colonize it with Germans"

AmericanKulak says

richwicks says

Mein Kampf

Dozens of pages: "I, Hitler, argue that Germans need to Rule Slavs. Since there is the British Navy, and most overseas areas are taken, we must have our Colonies by Land - in the East."

Revisionist Apologetics: "Hitler never wanted to Take over the East and Colonize it with Germans"

Look, I'm not going to defend any government, much less Nazi Germany.

Every single government, without exception, is a mafia, a criminal syndicate. Ours is no exception, and neither is Nazi Germany.

If we had a real government, freedom of speech would be unquestioned and sacrosanct, it isn't. The problem is that people don't recognize the absolute necessity for this right and there are PLENTY of people that will go on camera to say this right should be abolished, but you better suspect they are intelligence, not just dumb shitheads. I know this happens.

Most people you see on the propaganda box, are propagandists. Not people, subhuman people. They can be made human, if you give them enough courage and principles to do it. These are just people who are like "oh paycheck!". People in the intelligence agencies often test well on IQ tests, but trust me, an IQ test doesn't test intelligence. It only tests pattern recognition, and you can EASILY improve that. Just take a bunch of IQ tests. You'll get better. Any dumbass can be a "genius".

There's a combination of intelligence and principles which cannot be measured, or at least I don't know of any way to do it, never heard of it. The supposedly dumbest people I know, are the most principled, and they keep this society from collapse. We have an immeasurable debt to them, and they are unknown. The best people, you'll never know and overlook. I have a lot more respect for blue collar workers than I do for my colleagues.

richwicks says

Most people you see on the propaganda box, are propagandists. Not people, subhuman people. They can be made human, if you give them enough courage and principles to do it. These are just people who are like "oh paycheck!". People in the intelligence agencies often test well on IQ tests, but trust me, an IQ test doesn't test intelligence. It only tests pattern recognition, and you can EASILY improve that. Just take a bunch of IQ tests. You'll get better. Any dumbass can be a "genius".

IQ Tests are, however, the best predictor for learning new things. And, they come in multiple forms. Some are more spatial and can be given to the illiterate. In all the social sciences, the only thing more robust from repeated aggressive attempts over a century to disprove than IQ Tests is Census Demographics.

IQ is a far better predictor of task mastery than conscientiousness, for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSo5v5t4OQM
richwicks says

Every single government, without exception, is a mafia, a criminal syndicate. Ours is no exception, and neither is Nazi Germany.

If we had a real government, freedom of speech would be unquestioned and sacrosanct, it isn't.

But if every single government is a mafia, then... what does a real government look like in the wild?

richwicks says

e have an immeasurable debt to them, and they are unknown. The best people, you'll never know and overlook. I have a lot more respect for blue collar workers than I do for my colleagues.

Of course. And most ideologies claim to be fighting on their behalf against enemies seen and unseen, foreign and domestic, natural or man made.

Everybody from Stalin to Hitler to FDR claimed to be fighting for that exact type of person.

Who invites anyone for leftovers?

Subject: Want to come over for leftover Indian food tonight?
From: Catherine Chieco
To: John Podesta , Mary Podesta
CC: Tony Podesta
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=E2=80=8BIf you are free & not sick of us or the food!
also have a movie on Sicily we thought we might try to watch..

Forwarded from Tony to John:

Not sure if this came to you
July 9
Join?

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Marina Abramovic
> Date: June 2, 2015 at 8:31:22 PM EDT
> To: info@hillaryclinton.com , Tony Podesta
> Subject: Re: Tickets to Official Campaign Launch on June 13th
>
> Dear John,
>
> I am sorry but I will not be able to make it since I am in Australia for two big projects and will be back on July 6. I would like to take this opportunity to invite you to dinner on July 9 at my place together with Tony, whom I already invited. The dinner is at 7:30PM and the address is 497 Greenwich Street, apt 7B.
>
> Please let me know if you can make it.
>
> Warmly, Marina
>

AmericanKulak says

But if every single government is a mafia, then... what does a real government look like in the wild?

I've only seen real governments in small towns. In NH, they have real governments.

They are responsive to the public, they actually address issues, and if they can't get the job done, they are removed. They don't just make empty promises, do nothing about it for 4 years, and then say "let us finish the job" when they are up for election.

NOTHING our federal government does, and I mean NOTHING they do has helped this nation in any way for 30 years with a small, TINY interruption of Trump.

AmericanKulak says

Of course. And most ideologies claim to be fighting on their behalf against enemies seen and unseen, foreign and domestic, natural or man made.

Everybody from Stalin to Hitler to FDR claimed to be fighting for that exact type of person.

They are entirely unrepresented. They were to some extent, 50 and 60 years ago.

What I'm pointing out is that if they don't show up to do work, we're all finished. Eventually they'll decide it's not worthwhile to continue in this system.

Event hosted by Tony with James Alefantis in attendance:
https://www.paperlesspost.com/events/11117214-d70af2d2/replies/188806332-b73bd88e?mkey=am9obi5wb2Rlc3RhQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ%3D%3D&preconfirmed_token=4130051-d52655d7

Why does he need to differentiate dinner from pizza?

Not sure when John gets home

But we have Alan signed up for dinner on the 23rd.

If you will be around for dinner or pizza on Sunday would love to see you and hear about addis and California.

Let me know

T

Tony Podesta

NuttBoxer says

Why does he need to differentiate dinner from pizza?

Not sure when John gets home

But we have Alan signed up for dinner on the 23rd.

If you will be around for dinner or pizza on Sunday would love to see you and hear about addis and California.

Let me know

T

Tony Podesta

The entire style of communication is deliberately cryptic, no doubt it's code

It may just be how Tony communicates. There's one email where John responds that he doesn't understand because Tony's email is too abbreviated.

Something else I've noticed frequently, when dinner arrangements are made, who is cooking is often mentioned. I was trying to think if we've ever invited, or been invited to dinner, and specifically mentioned who would cook, couldn't recall that ever happening.

richwicks says

I've only seen real governments in small towns. In NH, they have real governments.

Bull shit still goes on, but you're 100% correct. You see the mayor/village president, trustees, school board, superintendent, library board, hell even public works employees on a daily basis in a small town. They rarely can hide from any bull shit they do, though sometimes they still can.

I have no access to my Senator or POTUS. None. My House Rep I have had personal interaction, but that's it federally. Friends with the State Rep family here in IL for my district. Connected as I can be.

People should move to small towns. Just don't bring your bull shit with you from your prior place.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/conspiracy-facts-thursday-june-8?publication_id=463409&post_id=126879498&isFreemail=true

Following two weeks of Jeffrey Epstein news, the Wall Street Journal ran another shocking exposé yesterday, headlined “Instagram Connects Vast Pedophile Network.”

The story checks off yet ANOTHER misinformation conspiracy theory. Just wait, you won’t believe this one.

It’s not just that Instagram (owned by Facebook) allowed perverted users to post horrific subhuman child pornography on its system, the software even encouraged debased criminal users by helping them connect with each other, helped them trade highly-illegal CSAM, and even suggested ways for them to avoid getting caught.

Facebook blames all of that on surprising side-effects from their A.I., which sure gives us a glimpse into the near future. Get ready to hear “AI made me do it” a lot. Anyway, Facebook claimed they’ve promptly taken action, deleted accounts and illegal images, limited search tags, fixed the AI, and so forth. So don’t worry.

You might fairly be wondering what, exactly, Facebook’s swarms of social media police do all day long. I’ll tell you. They keep anti-vaxx memes off the platform, make sure nobody blames the pandemic on a lab leak, erase evidence about election cheating, and delete incriminating Hunter Biden’s laptop content. But what they DON’T DO is combat any real-life crimes...

No response for months. But Michelle got banned once — in under ten minutes! — for simply posting that she wanted to “punch Joe Biden in the throat.” (It was uncivil, true, but there was mitigating context. She was provoked.) The point is, everyone has their priorities, and clearly, protecting children is not one of Facebook’s.

The appalling content and the disgraceful features helping pedophiles trade, buy and sell illegal content were recently uncovered by three independent Stanford researchers. The team said after they set up a single account and connected it to a couple other child porn collectors within a loose social network, they were immediately buried with “suggested for you” recommendations of thousands of child-sex-content sellers and buyers. They were also, oddly, offered links to off-platform CSAM trading sites.

Following just a few of the recommendations flooded their test account with underaged sexual content.

It’s a long article. But this one paragraph especially jumped out at me, and at other close observers of the captured media:

The pedophilic accounts on Instagram mix brazenness with superficial efforts to veil their activity, researchers found. Certain emojis function as a kind of code, such as an image of a map🗺️—shorthand for “minor-attracted person”—or one of “cheese pizza” 🍕, which shares its initials with “child pornography,” according to Levine of UMass. Many [Instagram perverts sickeningly] declare themselves “lovers of the little things in life.”

Wait, go back. Did they just say, “cheese pizza?” Pizza? Wasn’t that the obvious code word all over Hilary Clinton’s leaked emails? But … I thought the pizza thing was all debunked conspiracy theory misinformation. They mocked the very idea, laughingly labeling it “pizza gate” and darkly hinting that anyone who believed that stuff was dangerous and should be on the no-fly list or something.

Ironically, Facebook busily banned any accounts that discussed PizzaGate or used the PizzaGate hashtag, while at the same exact time it was helping pedophiles build a vast criminal network using that very same code word.

The Wall Street Journal, with its teams of award-winning reporters and layers of editors and fact-checkers, failed to make that connection. Just … nothing. You’d think PizzaGate might’ve earned a single sentence in the extended article. But no. Not one word about what now must be considered another established conspiracy fact.

I suppose the Journal deserves credit for running the story at all. Still, it ended on a down note, quoting the Stanford researchers who tested Instagram after Facebook reported its repairs. The researchers said Instagram is, once again, helping the network rebuild itself. One of them thinks the entire platform should be shut down...

Qui bono?

Reading between the lines, the paragraph above shows that the Journal gave Facebook time to clean up its act before running the story. Why? Do people without government connections get the same consideration before an exposé is published? Just asking.

So that’s one conspiracy theory confirmed. But there’s another one today, too.

Patrick says

Following two weeks of Jeffrey Epstein news, the Wall Street Journal ran another shocking exposé yesterday, headlined “Instagram Connects Vast Pedophile Network.”

Where's the Wall Street Journal Article?

I don't ask to try to embarrass you. If a "news" report can't link to source information, you're probably reading bullshit. I've been burned MANY TIMES, I always go to the source, and 90% of the time if I can find the source, it's misrepresented.

Here's a quick lazy search:

https://search.brave.com/search?q=%22The+pedophilic+accounts+on+Instagram+mix+brazenness+with+superficial+efforts+to+veil+their+activity%2C+researchers%22&source=desktop

None of them point to the Wall Street Journal.

Isn't it weird there is no search engine where you can say "exclude this site"? Odd, there is no blacklist, greylist, and whitelist for sites isn't there? NO search engine does this...

This Coffee and Covid guy is really good, I have faith the article exists.

Et voila:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/instagram-vast-pedophile-network-4ab7189

Patrick says

This Coffee and Covid guy is really good, I have faith the article exists.

Et voila:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/instagram-vast-pedophile-network-4ab7189

Well.

I stand corrected.

I still say source, source, source, source. If there is no source, it's rarely worth your time trying to find it. Let me read this now, and see if it says what it claims to say.. I'll do an update to this post if it doesn't.

Paywall: but the gist of the article seems correct based on the first paragraph. I have no faith in "mainstream news" and the only reason this is noteworthy is that the WSJ is reporting on it. I have no faith they are correct.

If you want a better example, look up the account I posted in this thread, and scan through here stuff. Just took me a few posts to get creeped out. Especially when you have the context of the Podesta emails.

I guarantee the account is still up. They might have scrubbed the obvious stuff, but the bigger players I'm sure are all safe and sound.

richwicks says

Isn't it weird there is no search engine where you can say "exclude this site"? Odd, there is no blacklist, greylist, and whitelist for sites isn't there? NO search engine does this...

On Qwant (and probably others) you can search for links on specific sites by including the "site:SITE_FQDN" qualifier and it also works in reverse by putting a dash in front: -site:SITE_FQDN

Anyone else ever had pizza "for an hour"..?

On Jan 6, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Tony Podesta > wrote:

Mary not free
Would love to get a pizza for an hour? Or come over

Tony Podesta
Office: 202-879-9300
Cell: 202-352-4645
Podesta@podesta.com
1001 G St. NW, Suite 1000 West
Washington, DC 20001

Karloff says

richwicks says

Isn't it weird there is no search engine where you can say "exclude this site"? Odd, there is no blacklist, greylist, and whitelist for sites isn't there? NO search engine does this...

On Qwant (and probably others) you can search for links on specific sites by including the "site:SITE_FQDN" qualifier and it also works in reverse by putting a dash in front: -site:SITE_FQDN

Yes - but what I want is a list of sites to ignore. Maybe a list of sites to pay attention to as well. I don't want to find anything, for example, on cnn, fox news, facebook, nytimes, rolling stone, etc. There's sites I don't want to see any results from because I don't trust the site at all.

In youtube, for example, when I do a search trying to find information (or I used to do this, youtube is largely useless now for it), I didn't want to see ANYTHING from corporate news. That would be great to have.

richwicks says

In youtube, for example, when I do a search trying to find information (or I used to do this, youtube is largely useless now for it), I didn't want to see ANYTHING from corporate news. That would be great to have.

Try the plugin called "uBlacklist".

" Great show! Great speech.

Raised over 40 grand. My only regret is I did not make you a nice pizza. When can I?"

From jamesacorp@gmail.com to John Podesta.