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In Praise of Classical Art


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2023 Jan 18, 11:03am   7,743 views  77 comments

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A 23 year old sculpted this.

What's your excuse?




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24   NDrLoR   2023 Feb 1, 10:15am  

Ceffer says

It wasn't uncommon to see people in the last century into modern times
Sadly, as late as the early 1900's it killed three of the most promising jazz musicians of their day. In the early 1920's, Lorin McMurray (1895-1922), one of the greatest saxophone players of the era, developed a nasal infection that spread to his brain and killed him in two weeks. I have both of his Gennett recordings, one made just a week before he died. Carlton Coon (1895-1932), half of the Coon-Sanders orchestra so popular with the college crowd and noted for his beautiful voice in duets with Joe Sanders, had a dental abscess that gave him much pain, but he enjoyed listening to the other bands after hours he numbed it with alcohol until it spread and killed him. Bing Crosby encouraged his jazz guitarist friend Eddie Lang (1903-1933) to have a tonsillectomy that should improve his singing voice. Instead it was botched and he died of blood poisoning. Bing never forgave himself for his advice.

Here's Coon's first record from the last session in 1932:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0u0HpNM6XE
25   Ceffer   2023 Feb 1, 10:35am  

NDrLoR says

Here's Coon's first record from the last session in 1932:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0u0HpNM6XE

Seems you are an audiophile along the lines of Robert Crumb, the underground cartoonist. He collects and plays the old jazz 78's from the day.

Antibiotics only came in beginning after WWII, they are relatively recent phenomena. They have enabled many elaborate surgical procedures that would otherwise have meant frequent death if they had been done in the past.

However, the bacteria with their relentless and very short reproductive cycles and forced evolutionary adaptations are defeating antibiotics, and we might return to some version of pre WWII infectious susceptablities.
26   SunnyvaleCA   2023 Feb 1, 10:58am  

AmericanKulak says

Another secret is that early 20th Century slum clearing and sanitation did more against most diseases we vaccinate for than the vaxes did themselves. 80% of the drop in things like Measles occured during the massive sewer and indoor plumbing campaigns, before those vaccines were invented.

This doesn't bode well for San Francisco and other progressive-run cities.
27   Ceffer   2023 Feb 1, 1:16pm  

SunnyvaleCA says

This doesn't bode well for San Francisco and other progressive-run cities.

It seems they suppress the news about typhus outbreaks, and even the rare case of good old plague. Don't want any reality diseases competing with fake Covid's multi trillion dollar ad propaganda.
28   GNL   2023 Feb 1, 1:18pm  

HeadSet says

Patrick says






Yes, but notice the buxom ones have the figure emphasized and displayed.

Yep, doesn't mean they aren't giving hand jobs and blowjobs behind the barn.
29   RWSGFY   2023 Feb 1, 7:58pm  

SunnyvaleCA says

AmericanKulak says


Another secret is that early 20th Century slum clearing and sanitation did more against most diseases we vaccinate for than the vaxes did themselves. 80% of the drop in things like Measles occured during the massive sewer and indoor plumbing campaigns, before those vaccines were invented.

This doesn't bode well for San Francisco and other progressive-run cities.


The recent rain storm has washed all the shit into the bay. Poor fishes.
30   richwicks   2023 Feb 1, 8:34pm  

RWSGFY says

The recent rain storm has washed all the shit into the bay.


Gavin Newsom is still around..
32   Eric Holder   2023 Mar 17, 11:41am  

Patrick says







СССP 1928:



Blame Le Corbusier for all this shit.
34   RWSGFY   2023 Mar 31, 10:15am  





A school principal in Tallahassee, Florida, has been fired following parental complaints about a lesson on Michelangelo’s marble masterpiece David (1501-04), which was deemed “pornographic” by one aggrieved parent.
35   AmericanKulak   2023 Apr 5, 6:45pm  

Patrick says







One of the ugliest buildings in America. They have to paint it constantly to stop the red iron stains from Appearing as it bleeds through the concrete.


"Fungi from Yoggoth Earth Command Bunker"


What a contrast.
36   richwicks   2023 Apr 5, 6:49pm  

Eric Holder says

Blame Le Corbusier for all this shit.


Want to change minds? Include links and reasoning. I have no idea what you're talking about, but if you make it easy, I'll find out what you're talking about.

I'm not stupid, I'm just ignorant.
37   richwicks   2023 Apr 5, 7:13pm  

RWSGFY says


A school principal in Tallahassee, Florida, has been fired following parental complaints about a lesson on Michelangelo’s marble masterpiece David (1501-04), which was deemed “pornographic” by one aggrieved parent.


Who is the principle and what is the school?

I find this hard to believe in a time where tranny time story hour is the new rage. I could believe this in the 1980's but not now.

We fought against this shit, and won. Now we have to fight against perverts prancing around in front of 5 year olds. Never ending battle.
38   Patrick   2023 May 7, 10:06am  

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/may-2023/





Behold, the new Richard Gilder Center for Science — an addition to New York’s American Museum of Natural History, designed by Jeanne Gang, the most-published architect on The Eyesore of the Month!

Here’s what you get when you ask computer aided design (CAD) to give you a “bat cave.” CAD is universal now in the architecture biz. This technology has aggravated the feedback loop between the human tendency to seek novelty and the bizarre-ness of every new building produced in our culture. Even before CAD arrived on the scene, novelty-seeking drove post-World War Two building design. That itself derived from the accelerated sense of “progress” induced by our turbo-charged cheap oil economy, which brought on dizzying technological innovation, another feedback loop. The net result was the buildings that represented human endeavor — especially, public buildings, museums, courthouses, libraries — had to look like nothing ever seen before. This programming also served to demolish people’s sense of history, of which the thinking classes were increasingly ashamed, especially after the fiasco of two world wars and Auschwitz.

What was wrong with this grand cavalcade of novelty-seeking, you might ask? It was creative… innovative… diverse! Well, yes. But it also tended to ignore the archetypal symbolic language that buildings need to project in order to inform people what each building means and what its role is in human endeavor. You could no longer distinguish a school from an insecticide factory. It also obliterated the anthropomorphic element in architecture that fitted buildings into a design ethos that reflected human form, in particular the “tripartite” configuration of top, middle, base (head, trunk, feet) which is the basis of many so-called classicisms.

Yet another consequence of perpetual novelty-seeking for the sake of “progress” is that buildings no longer relate to the other buildings around them. Each is a one-off, and so there is no continuity or unity in the urban pattern. The result is an unfortunate urban cacophony which only ends up expressing the disordered condition of our society.

Now you know.


Compare to, say:



39   Ceffer   2023 May 7, 10:41am  

Patrick says


Behold, the new Richard Gilder Center for Science

What it looks like when you are consumed by an amoeba.


40   HeadSet   2023 May 7, 12:43pm  

Patrick says

Yet another consequence of perpetual novelty-seeking for the sake of “progress” is that buildings no longer relate to the other buildings around them. Each is a one-off, and so there is no continuity or unity in the urban pattern.

Seriously? I like those older neighborhoods where each house is distinctly different, as opposed to the newer subdivisions where each house is just a color scheme variation on the same 3 models throughout.
43   EBGuy   2023 May 26, 9:19pm  

RWSGFY says

The recent rain storm has washed all the shit into the bay. Poor fishes.


No joke. When it rains, it pours into...


46   GNL   2023 Jun 17, 10:22am  

Patrick says






What seems so out of place to me is that the beauty was built at a time when America was not as "wealthy". I've said this more than a few times but I really believe it...G.R.E.E.D. is the most destructive human trait.
50   Ceffer   2023 Oct 31, 12:22pm  

If there ever was an argument for aliens, it is the heritage of monumental art and architecture that simply cannot be duplicated today with known technology. A lot of it HAD to have been created, albeit for the grandiosity and psychopathy of the complicit dynastic ruling classes, with some kind of 3D modeling, secret science and energy carving, anti gravity, or inter dimensional transforms.

As usual usual, the secret knowledges and technologies were held close to the chest of the various covert societies, just like today.
51   SunnyvaleCA   2023 Oct 31, 1:26pm  

That is Vienna's newest fountain
Wow! Vienna is highly regarded for its classical visual art, but is absolutely peerless as being the center of music in what is actually called the "Viennese Era," which ran from 1750 to 1830 and included Haydn, Mozart, and Beethoven. Schubert was actually born there.
55   GNL   2024 Feb 19, 6:31pm  

Patrick says





What is it?
56   richwicks   2024 Feb 19, 6:37pm  

Ceffer says

A lot of it HAD to have been created, albeit for the grandiosity and psychopathy of the complicit dynastic ruling classes, with some kind of 3D modeling, secret science and energy carving, anti gravity, or inter dimensional transforms.


There is absolutely nothing that was done before that we can't do today. That includes Damascus steel and and Roman concrete.

The error is "I can't figure out how they did this with primitive tools!" - are you SURE they only had primitive tools? In 200 years time, people will be asking "how did they make this mechanical watch without a 3d CAD tool and laser cutting? Must be aliens!"

Most people don't even understand how a computer chip is made, although everybody uses them. Your typical person, TODAY doesn't know how an incandescent light bulb works, although that's trivial to understand, although the manufacturing process is complex.

We haven't lost technology, we've lost methods, because we have better methods. We don't bother with vacuum tubes, because transistors are a million times better. We don't bother with analog because digital is better. We might go back to analogue though because for niche areas, it's useful. We can do multiplication with analog circuits almost instantaneously, but the result has a precision error.
57   Patrick   2024 Mar 22, 5:06pm  

GNL says

What is it?


@GNL

It's Mont St. Michele in northern France.
58   Patrick   2024 Mar 22, 5:07pm  

https://sukwan.substack.com/p/what-do-you-dream-about


This marble statue is named the Release from Deception, or Il Disinganno. It was painstakingly carved by Genoese sculptor Francesco Queirolo and was produced over a period of 7 years from 1752-1759




59   GNL   2024 Mar 23, 7:42am  

Patrick says

https://sukwan.substack.com/p/what-do-you-dream-about



This marble statue is named the Release from Deception, or Il Disinganno. It was painstakingly carved by Genoese sculptor Francesco Queirolo and was produced over a period of 7 years from 1752-1759






That truly is amazing.
60   Patrick   2024 May 22, 8:54pm  

https://barsoom.substack.com/p/the-reenchantment-of-the-world


It wasn’t even that long ago that we lived in a more beautiful world. The aesthetic disconnect between the architecture of the pre- and post-WWII eras is so shockingly total that it is as if one civilization had wiped out another entirely. Walk down the street in any old European city, and one sees the fossilized remnants of that lost civilization, that alien people who held certain things sacred. Forget about the cathedrals, those jewels of architectural wonder. Even the ordinary buildings erected by our recent forebears, the apartment blocks, pumping stations, post offices, train stations, and so on, were built with an eye to beauty, embellished with carvings, porticoes, ironwork, sculptures, friezes, and other decorative flourishes, their proportions pleasing to the eye, their forms organically integrated with the wider aesthetic of both natural and urban environs. This was the architecture of a people for whom beauty was not a mere afterthought, but a central concern, for beauty glorified the soul, and the soul’s purpose was to glorify God.

Even the churches we build now – stark boxes marked out as religious merely by affixing a rectilinear cross to the unadorned wall facing the broad parking lot – do not evoke a sense of quiet awe, transportation into dumbstruck wonder, or deep and reverent peace. They are not meant to evoke anything. They are simply cheap to build, maximizing seating space and volume for a given quantity of material.
61   HeadSet   2024 May 23, 6:02am  

Patrick says

Even the ordinary buildings erected by our recent forebears, the apartment blocks, pumping stations, post offices, train stations, and so on, were built with an eye to beauty, embellished with carvings, porticoes, ironwork, sculptures, friezes, and other decorative flourishes, their proportions pleasing to the eye, their forms organically integrated with the wider aesthetic of both natural and urban environs.

Yes, back when labor was cheap.
62   RC2006   2024 May 23, 6:12am  

I think we use to have a lot more master craftsmen. We don't build anything to last the ages.

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