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I need to issue a formal apology to RWSGFY Eric Holder and Bd6r. You guys were way more accurate about Russia's military state than I was.
So for the link I provided above, this guys starts giving a play-by-play of what happened around 30 minutes. I need to issue a formal apology to RWSGFY Eric Holder and Bd6r. You guys were way more accurate about Russia's military state than I was.
For those who like even more conspiracy theories:
Rolo Slavskiy? Like 'Rollo Tomasi' in 'LA Confidential'?
This is either US/NATO fighting Russia and Ukraine, or ethnic Russians in Ukraine being supported by Russia fighting US/NATO forces posing as Ukraine.
Finally, enjoy this clip of revolting disgrace John Kerry twisting in the wind after a French reporter pressed him to explain how Bush invading Iraq was any different than Putin invading Ukraine. The reporter insisted that the US invaded Iraq on a false premise — just like how Russia allegedly invaded Ukraine.
Kerry, face tragically frozen in a botox-induced Halloween mask, angrily stammered out that it was totally different when we did it! Because we were too stupid to realize we were invading Iraq over false pretenses. Somebody tricked us.
It’s a little hard to hear Kerry under the French translator’s voice over, but still. It is very satisfying.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1673359887005253638
Imagery published on social media has confirmed that a Russian Air Force Ilyushin Il-22M airborne command post platform was among several military aircraft shot down inside Russia in an apparent attempted coup by the Wagner Private Military Co.
Wagner-operated air defenses brought down the four-engine turboprop on June 24 near the city of Voronezh in southwestern Russia as the paramilitary group’s forces made an advance toward Moscow in what President Vladimir Putin described as an “internal betrayal” of the Russian people. All 10 crew on the Il-22 were killed.
Wagner forces also bought down several Mil Mil-8/17 transport helicopters, including: a specialized electronic warfare version; a Kamov Ka-52 attack helicopter; and a Mil Mi-35 attack helicopter being used to to stave off Wagner’s advance.
Yevgeny Prigozhin, Wagner’s owner, triggered the rebellion, aiming his ire at the head of the Russian military, Gen. Valery Gerasimov, and Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.
Prigozhin publicly blamed the two men for the conflict in Ukraine which has seen thousands of Wagner personnel killed. In a video published online on June 23, he said justification for the war in Ukraine was a lie, and just an excuse for "a small group of scumbags" to promote themselves and deceive both the public and Putin.
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The loss of the Il-22M—a military conversion of the Il-18 airliner—represents a significant loss in the Russian Air Force’s intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance fleet. It is the second such loss in five years. Back in September 2018, an Il-20—an electronic intelligence version of the Il-18—was shot down accidentally by Syrian air defenses as it returned from a patrol flight over the Mediterranean Sea.
In conclusion: the mutiny was "mostly peaceful". =))
How come Russia isn't crawling on its knees begging Ukraine for forgiveness, now? Any day, now, any day.
Fucker. He knew that WMD was a lie. They all knew it was a lie, and that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. It was all the Saudis, and probably the CIA.
If anyone has the slightest doubt about 9/11 it's because you haven't taken the time, not because you can't know. I push Corbett for different things, but this one is his area of expertise.
Lost in all the fake news about the Wagner Civil War, the Evening Standard ran a story late last week headlined, “Ukraine May Be ‘Pausing Counteroffensive’, Says Institute for the Study of War.”
According to the article, on June 17th, the Wall Street Journal reported that Ukrainian forces “have mostly paused their advances in recent days” as command in Kiev “re-examines tactics.”
Re-examines. That’s a euphemism for “licks its wounds.”
In its latest update on the war, the Institute for the Study of War, a Washington-based think tank, said these news reports are consistent with their own recent observations of the “scale and approach” of local Ukrainian counterattacks in southern and eastern parts of the country. It added that it still does not look like Ukraine has launched its “main” effort yet.
The rationale for the “pause” was not clear, especially given that it provides the Russians even more time to shore up their defenses.
Headlines this week suggested a new push to lower liberal expectations, signaling nothing is going to happen anytime soon. ...
Haha, it’s not that the Russians are winning or anything. It’s the GROUND. The Ukrainians are being defeated by dirt.
The Times’ article, which is not paywalled, includes a helpful gigantic infographic with a large, scrollable battle map, pointing out all the different ways the devilish Russians have craftily frustrated the brave Ukrainian CounterOffensive™.
The Ukrainians have unlimited money, weapons, and ammo, and the Russians are — supposedly — isolated under crushing sanctions. Just saying.
Institute for the Study of War.
Patrick says
Institute for the Study of War.
Like the Carnegie Insitute for Peace, this org is pure bullshit
Prigozhin hates Shoigu because he tried to kill the Wagner troops in Ukraine when they wouldn't pay for ammo through various means, and bombed them when they returned to Russia. There's a lot of other aggression's, but suffice it to say Prigozhin took a lot of shit before pushing back. If they downed these aircraft, it's likely because they perceived them as a threat. Only reason Pirgozhin got as close to Moscow as he did is he has the support of Russian troops. He wouldn't get that if he was attacking them indiscriminately.
Putin is part of WEF, is the third person facing camera the conspiracy?
Now the $million dollar question is which Russian or international faction supported Prigozhin and what was the desired outcome of this exercise. I can’t answer this and I have not seen a good answer anywhere.
All appears to be true according to pro-Prigozhin telegram channels. He downed 5 or 6 helicopters and 1 aircraft because they were either firing at them or coordinating fire. Nearly all Russian regular troops showed either support or positive indifference to Wagner. Putin the fearless fled to his Waldai residence from Moscow.
There are Patnetters who believe that Putin is savior of Western civilization, anti globalization, etc. His actions during pLandemic and attack of Ukraine at exact time to take spotlight away from gubbermint-committed Covid crimes speak otherwise, and so does his fraternization with Bush crime family.
He has supporters in Moscow, likely inside the Kremlin. During the tense 24 hours before it become clear he would not be advancing all the way to Moscow, most of the powerful people stayed silent. If they thought Prigorzhin had no chance, they would have all quickly denounced him.
Bd6r says
All appears to be true according to pro-Prigozhin telegram channels. He downed 5 or 6 helicopters and 1 aircraft because they were either firing at them or coordinating fire. Nearly all Russian regular troops showed either support or positive indifference to Wagner. Putin the fearless fled to his Waldai residence from Moscow.
What evidence do you have of any of this?
Bd6r says
There are Patnetters who believe that Putin is savior of Western civilization, anti globalization, etc. His actions during pLandemic and attack of Ukraine at exact time to take spotlight away from gubbermint-committed Covid crimes speak otherwise, and so does his fraternization with Bush crime family.
Bd6r What Patnetters think that Putin is "savior of Western civilization"? Name them, and support your statement, or this is just another fucking strawman that's just bullshit rotting in your "mind".
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