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Earlier I wrote that "If CO2 is causing Global Warming, then where is the Global Warming on Mars with a CO2 concentration exceeding 950,000 ppm? Why is the average temperature of Mars at (minus) -81 °F given that the CO2 in the Martian atmosphere is 950,000 ppm? No answer."

richwicks says

"Don't make arguments like this. 20 years ago I'd be pointing out your dishonesty because of atmosphere of mars is far far thinner... and Mars is also much further from the sun, it gets about 1/2 the sunlight the Earth does."

Irrelevant. If CO2 is a Greenhouse Gas, then where is the warming on Mars? No answer. And if you are worried about the thinness of the Martian atmosphere and the amount of sunlight it receives then look at Venus. "If CO2 is causing Global Warming, then where is the Global Warming on Venus with a CO2 concentration exceeding 970,000 ppm? No answer. Venus has the same temperature as Gaia at the one atmosphere level (sea level) with a very minor adjustment for being closer to the Sun." And in addition, Venus receives more sunshine!

Deep state DeSantis, Yale/Harvard educated, Guantanamo lawyer who is ditching Florida or RFKJ, Harvard educated environmental/ children's rights lawyer who is vehemently anti-vaxx and wants justice for his state murdered father and uncle.

Which one is more likely to disrupt our corrupt government?

International Climate Summit??? --- We'll show the proles leadership.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/caught-on-camera-climate-minister-s-328-foot-bike-ride-photo-op-backfires-following-claims-she-flew-private-and-used-limos-to-attend-summit/ar-AA1dM3pv?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=4012bbe5e2eb4a15a6a4305b307540ac&ei=48

https://twitter.com/amiriking/status/1679428780505350145?t=w1LjYyyPK1p-3rAx9wcjCA

Fight climate change by bonding your hands to a road with epoxy.

RC2006 says

"Fight climate change by bonding your hands to a road with epoxy."

How sad... These people are clueless... Global Warming is a Fraud!

The_Deplorable says

• If CO2 is causing Global Warming, then where is the Global Warming on Mars with a CO2 concentration exceeding 950,000 ppm? Why is the average temperature of Mars at (minus) -81 °F given that the CO2 in the Martian atmosphere is 950,000 ppm? No answer.

Not true. The atmospheric pressure at ground level on Mars is only 0.095 psi vs. 14.7 psi for sea level pressure on Earth. For comparison, atmospheric pressure at the top of Mount Everest is 4.89 psi - this is enough to make the peak of Everest more than 100 degrees colder than temperatures at sea level for the equivalent latitude. Without almost 100% CO2, Mars would be much, much colder. For example, the temperature on the surface on the moon in the shade is -297 degrees Fahrenheit.

The_Deplorable says

• If CO2 is causing Global Warming, then where is the Global Warming on Venus with a CO2 concentration exceeding 970,000 ppm? No answer. Venus has the same temperature as Gaia at the one atmosphere level (sea level) with a very minor adjustment for being closer to the Sun.

This neglects to mention that the altitude at which this occurs is 30 miles. Everest is 5.5 miles above sea level and is damn cold - at 160,000 feet there is virtually no atmosphere and temperatures are close to -150 F. This statement also misleadingly attempts to conflate one atmosphere of pressure with 0 altitude.

The_Deplorable says

• How is it humanly possible for alarmists, to find Global Warming on Earth at 400 ppm CO2 but they cannot find Global Warming on Mars and Venus at CO2 levels exceeding 950,000 ppm? No answer.

This is just a recapitulation of the first two items, which are obviously and demonstrably misleading. In the first point, pressure is neglected, so the argument is bogus. You'll need something better than grade school science to explain this; namely the gas law PV=nRT which used to be taught in high school. In the second point, this argument is a red herring. Can we survive unaided 30 miles altitude on Earth? No. Can we possibly do this on Venus? Perhaps, if we could breathe the air, which we probably couldn't.

I have no problem with the remaining 4 points and in fact agree with all of them. It's a shame that the first three points leading the argument are horse shit.

• If CO2 is causing Global Warming, then where is the Global Warming on Mars with a CO2 concentration exceeding 950,000 ppm? Why is the average temperature of Mars at (minus) -81 °F given that the CO2 in the Martian atmosphere is 950,000 ppm? No answer.

stereotomy says

"Not true. The atmospheric pressure at ground level on Mars is only 0.095 psi vs. 14.7 psi for sea level pressure on Earth... Without almost 100% CO2, Mars would be much, much colder. For example, the temperature on the surface on the moon in the shade is -297 degrees Fahrenheit."

No because Mars does not emit radiation at the frequency which CO2 absorbs, namely 15 microns and that is why there is no Global Warming on Mars.
Bottom line, you do not have a process for creating Global Warming through CO2 on Mars.

• Given that CO2 is a Greenhouse Gas, then "Where is the Global Warming on Venus with a CO2 concentration exceeding 970,000 ppm? Venus has the same temperature as Gaia at the one atmosphere level (sea level) with a very minor adjustment for being closer to the Sun."

"This neglects to mention that the altitude at which this occurs is 30 miles."

Yes, because we are comparing apples with apples. Otherwise you are ignoring the Ideal Gas Law. We compare the temperature of Venus at the one atmosphere level - sea level for Earth - and Venus has the same temperature as Earth. Changing the atmospheric pressure will change the temperature per the ideal gas law: PV/T = Constant.



• Finally, recall that during the Paleozoic, Gaia had an ice age that lasted for 40 Million years at a CO2 level of 4,200 ppm. So... where was the Global Warming back then?
Again, CO2 is not warming anything because Gaia is not emitting radiation at the frequency which CO2 absorbs, namely 15 microns and that is why CO2 is not warming anything. As a result, Given that Gaia is roughly at 59°F then our planet is radiating unimpeded into space at 10 microns.

The_Deplorable says

Finally, recall that during the Paleozoic, Gaia had an ice age that lasted for 40 Million years

WTF is "Gaia"? You mean EARTH?

Gaia is supposedly some reference to "mother Earth" as some sort of god, but what religion is never mentioned.

It's also a character in that dumb cartoon Captain Planet I think.

"Finally, recall that during the Paleozoic, Gaia had an ice age that lasted for 40 Million years."

richwicks says

"WTF is "Gaia"? You mean EARTH?"

Seriously, you don't know Gaia?

A lot of sciences, names and places are named after Gaia. For example, Geology, Geography, Geometry, Geophysics, Geothermal, Geocentric, Geocentrism, Geosphere, Geoscience, Geodesic, Geostationary, Geopolitics, Geostrategy, Geohazard, Geomagnetic, Geofencing, Georgia, George, Geoid, etc are named after Gaia. You never heard of these sciences and never used any of these words?

"Gaia is supposedly some reference to "mother Earth" as some sort of god, but what religion is never mentioned."

Nonsense. Gaia is the original name for Earth that existed long before the word Earth for thousands of years. Compared to Gaia which goes back at least 4,000 years, Earth is a very recent name!

The_Deplorable says

Nonsense. Gaia is the original name for Earth that existed long before the word Earth for thousands of years.

This is stupid.

There's hundreds of languages. I'm tired of this new-age bullshit, and people repeating it without doing an ounce of thinking. It's like all the crystal crap of the 1970s.

Nonsense. Gaia is the original name for Earth that existed long before the word Earth for thousands of years. Compared to Gaia which goes back at least 4,000 years, Earth is a very recent name!

richwicks says

"This is stupid. There's hundreds of languages."

More nonsense! You are feigning ignorance!

Given that you are an English speaker, how come you use words like Geology, Geography, Geometry, Geophysics, Geothermal, Geocentric, Geocentrism, Geosphere, Geoscience, Geodesic, Geostationary, Geopolitics, Geostrategy, Geohazard, Geomagnetic, Geofencing, Georgia, George, Geoid, etc and you don't know Gaia? Who are you kidding?

Did you ever look into the etymology of these words and the syntax of the English language? Meaning you have no problem with all these Greek words in the English language and all of a sudden but you have a problem with Gaia?

Stop feigning ignorance! Gaia is the original name of this planet... Planet? Another Greek word. The English language is loaded with Greek words and you don't know Gaia?

back to the topic

https://ippr-journal.com/2021/05/01/green-colonialism-or-the-fight-against-climate-change-as-an-excuse-for-imperialism/

Green colonialism… or the fight against climate change as an excuse for imperialism

MAY 1, 2021

It can seem difficult to believe that currently, with the existence of international conventions on human rights widely ratified, imperialist behaviours are still present, especially when engaged in by developed countries. Nevertheless, several examples are to be deplored.

https://slaynews.com/news/nobel-prize-winning-scientist-climate-crisis-narrative-hoax/

A renowned Nobel Prize-winning scientist has spoken out to warn the public that the “climate crisis” narrative being pushed by the global elite and their allies in the corporate media is a hoax.

Dr. John Clauser, the co-winner of the 2022 Nobel Physics prize and one the world’s leading authorities on quantum mechanics, blasted “climate emergency” claims as a “dangerous corruption of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of billions of people.”

Clauser, who was also awarded the 2010 Wolf Prize in Physics, the second most prestigious physics award after the Nobel, warns that misguided climate science is a hoax that is being driven by “massive shock-journalistic pseudoscience.”

https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/nobel-prize-winning-scientist-climate-crisis-is-a-hoax-to-depopulate-the-planet/

Dr. John Clauser, the co-winner of the 2022 Nobel Physics prize and one the world’s leading authorities on quantum mechanics, slammed the green agenda push by WEF-controlled countries as a “dangerous corruption of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of billions of people.”

According to Dr. Clauser, the man-made climate change hoax is being perpetrated by government’s and media organizations who are bought and paid for by the globalist elite.

The goal of globalists is to depopulate the planet and to drastically decrease the quality of life for those who remain.

“In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis,” Clauser said.

“There is, however, a very real problem with providing a decent standard of living to the world’s largest population and an associated energy crisis.”

“The latter is being unnecessarily exacerbated by what, in my opinion, is incorrect climate science.”

Dr. Clauser is not the first Nobel prize-winner to challenge the “settled” scientific and political narrative of “climate change.”

As The People’s Voice previously reported, the World Climate Declaration has been signed by by hundreds of scientists and professionals from around the world.

“There is no climate emergency,” the document states.

Greenpeace founder Dr. Patrick Moore also previously testified that the man-made climate change narrative is a “dangerous hoax” perpetrated by the elite to take away our most basic freedoms.

Thenewamerican.com reports: “The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous corruption of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of billions of people,” Clauser said. “Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive shock-journalistic pseudoscience.”

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Patrick says

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Before they are banned from sale in a couple of months.

just_passing_through says

https://generatorbible.com/generators/champion/_201176/

Before they are banned from sale in a couple of months.

from link

The Champion 201176 is EPA approved, but NOT CARB-compliant. Thus, it cannot be purchased or sold in California.

However, it features a spark arrestor, making it usable in forested areas.

In addition, the unit meets the ANSI/PGMA G300-2018 safety and performance requirements.

CARB SUCKS!

The same catalytic converter, lacking the CARB sticker, can be purchased for half the price in another state.

Onvacation says

CARB SUCKS!

The same catalytic converter, lacking the CARB sticker, can be purchased for half the price in another state.

I guess I'm not getting your point? I'm in Texas these days. Also renting. I'd get something like a generac if I was a home owner. This has a built in inverter where many do not.

In less than 30 years, alarmists gave up on the Coming Ice Age and they are now pushing Global Warming!...

From https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/why-progress-is-environmentalism

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/why-progress-is-environmentalism

we just had a massive global experiment on this from covid lockdowns. travel dropped precipitously, offices were empty, few people flew or drove, factories were idled. we experienced a level of human suppression and a drop in activity of unprecedented (and unsustainable) magnitude.

the effect on global CO2 levels was 0. nothing changed. the rise was perfectly average and you cannot pick it out of the surrounding data no matter how hard you squint.

the most aggressive implementation of purported mitigation in human history occurred and it had no impact.

it was probably the most expensive intervention in human history and it did not move the needle even a micrometer. all cost, no benefit.

and now they want to try again?

maybe the NYT is right:

maybe climate truly is the new covid…

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-cold-facts-about-heat-deaths

here’s the chartcrime as published in the alleged medical journal “the lancet” who has gone to such great lengths of late to beclown and besmirch its once august reputation. (LINK)

blue are deaths from cold, red deaths from heat.

can you spot the graphical felony?




look closely at the scaling. see how different the gradations are? it’s very nearly a full order of magnitude (10X) difference in scale.

this makes it look as if deaths from heat are somewhere close to deaths from cold or even exceed them in some places in the EU. but this is nothing like so.

fortunately, the chart police rode in in the form of always poignant bjorn lomborg who generated a new graphic using even scaling.

quite a bit different, no?




heat is a rounding error in “climate deaths” in europe.

here’s the comparison in one graphic to make this easy to see:

(thanks to onetime greenpeace founder partick moore who produced this.)

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/overheated-friday-july-28-2023-c

🔥 Let’s talk about the new climate psyop. Sometimes I wonder whether the powers that be were encouraged by how well the covid psyop worked on a whole lot of people, some of whom are still wearing masks and whining that we aren’t. These unfortunate souls were so susceptible to the government’s psychological suggestions that they would be happier staying masked forever. They have found meaning and a complete life purpose in the CDC-supplied goal of mask Nirvana, a kind of salvation-by-works religious conviction.

Surely you’ve seen all the climate hysteria lately, and probably seen lots of counter argument. But there are some things they haven’t been telling us, that are in themselves complete explanations for any increased world temperatures we might be living through this summer. It’s not carbon dioxide, as crypto-marxist, faux protest group “Extinction Rebellion” wants you to think...

Ready to learn something? Let’s meet the historic, record-shattering Hunga Tonga volcanic eruption of 2022, which I bet you never heard of. Back in January 2022, you were probably distracted by covid mandates or maybe by Biden calling himself “Senator” again. The short version is an underwater Pacific Ocean volcano named Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha’apai, 490 feet under the waves, massively erupted, bigger than any other modern eruption, even bigger than Mount Pinatubo.

You never heard about it since it was underwater and nobody died. But the erupting lava instantly vaporized fantastic, unimaginable amounts of sea water, which billowed into the atmosphere, changing the water composition of Earth’s atmosphere and heating it up for years. In only a few days, the superheated water from the Hunga Tonga eruption blanketed the globe, pole to pole, East to West.

The eruption was so big it could be clearly seen from space.

Here’s an August 2022 headline about the eruption, straight from the NASA website:




... Over the next year it would turn out that NASA badly underestimated the amount of water Hunga Tonga vaporized into the atmosphere. Current estimates are three times higher than the original: scientists now think it was closer to 150,000 metric tons, or 40 trillion gallons, of super-heated water instantly injected into the atmosphere. Talk about a greenhouse. Water vapor — humidity — is a much more effective greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide. ...

But I bet you never heard anything about Hunga Tonga, did you? Thanks, media. Better late than never, though. And if I’m doing my job right, you’re starting to think, hey, maybe the hot summer weather this year might have something to do with this historic volcanic eruption last year? If so, you aren’t the only one. ...

Here’s why corporate media is ignoring the most dramatic climate even in modern history: because you can’t legislate underwater volcanoes. You can try, but they won’t listen. So what’s the fun in that? Corporate media only exists to further political ends. Since volcanoes aren’t subject to politics, why bother?

“Okay Jeff,” you say, “nice volcano theory, but does anything back it up?” Well, yes, I’m glad you asked. The Ethical Skeptic, who has done so much great work crunching covid mortality figures the last few years, recently turned his attention to the climate. He’s been noting another startling fact that you probably never heard of: for some reason, worldwide ocean surface temperatures have bafflingly jumped rapidly this year — much too fast for any cause to have been atmospheric. ...

Magma from the Earth’s core is heating up the water, which is venting out, raising ocean temperatures and putting even more water vapor into the atmosphere, which heats the air through greenhouse effects.

It has nothing to do with carbon dioxide.

Hysterical corporate media articles about global warming ignore all these facts. They ignore Hunga Tonga. They ignore rapidly melting Antarctic sea ice. They ignore abyssal water heating and related deep-sea data. They only want to show you the summer heat map and run clips of cantankerous teenage climate propagandist Great Thunberg whining that your SUV is literally killing everybody’s grandma and will eventually burn the Earth into a pile of hot ash.

Don’t you believe it. “Science” has only the barest notion of what heats and cools the Earth, and they even refuse to grapple with the evidence they do have. The climate has been changing ever since God created the World. It is the pinnacle of human hubris to believe that we know what the optimal global climate is, or to think we can somehow freeze that optimal climate into place without breaking everything else.