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Well, I heard landlords like it because the rent can be boosted a bit and is guaranteed from the Guv. Also, the 8asites have to maintain good behavior or they lose their subsidy and get kicked out (I don't know how one would enforce that, however).

Reputedly, Santa Cruz has a sec 8 waiting roster of 15- 20,000 in a town that is supposed to be 65,000 (of course, wide seasonal variations due to UC Santa Cruz, tourism, and over the hill partiers).

Plenty of people complaining about the deadbeat loser Section 8 people. Seriously do you want nigs in a place you own?

A friend had a horrible experience with a Sec 8 tenant in AZ. They trashed his place. He spent around 20,000 to fix it up even though he saved a lot because he had a lot of labor help from relatives. He got the tenants flagged in the system but that's it. He had to swallow the cost of fixing up the house.

I still remember the guy from Victorville who used to share here. He was hilarious. He rented to brain damaged vets with PTSD as well I guess as various section 8. He got his checks from the government, and actually had a lot of sympathy for the vets.

He had his apartments rigged up as zoo slots. Small windows barred from the INSIDE. Stainless Steel cadaver tables bought at auction for small money as kitchen shelf or table, large stainless steel walk in refrigerator doors for doors also bought at auction, all appliances bolted and chained in place, and a special kind of smooth, easy to clean cement that covered the whole floor and halfway up the walls with a industrial drains in the floors. He could just hose the place down to clean it.

Ceffer says

I still remember the guy from Victorville who used to share here. He was hilarious. He rented to brain damaged vets with PTSD as well I guess as various section 8. He got his checks from the government, and actually had a lot of sympathy for the vets.

He had his apartments rigged up as zoo slots. Small windows barred from the INSIDE. Stainless Steel cadaver tables bought at auction for small money as kitchen shelf or table, large stainless steel walk in refrigerator doors for doors also bought at auction, all appliances bolted and chained in place, and a special kind of smooth, easy to clean cement that covered the whole floor and halfway up the walls with a industrial drains in the floors. He could just hose the place down to clean it.

man that’s wild.

@eman have you had any experience with S8?

I haven’t had much encounter with S8. We currently have two S8 tenants. One is a legacy tenant who has been with us since we bought the building in 2016. He’s a single disabled/retired veteran. His place is a little messy. Totally understandable as we have single engineers, who are just as messy.

The other S8 tenant is also a veteran. She’s a single mom. She was initially under the VA program, but it was converted to S8 shortly after. She works for Stanford Hospital. Very handy woman, and she takes pride in keeping her place clean.

Our property manager doesn’t accept S8 tenants. He said they attract the wrong crowd to the building, and just ruin/chase away other good tenants. I think it’s the luck of the draw.

S8 wasn’t bad for us. Experienced 100 leases or more. They’re on the government tit. They fuck up they pay market rate if they get kicked off. BUT some people are fuck ups.

You don’t know if you’ll have a fuck up. They got into that place for some reason. It can be consistent and lucrative, but risky.

My friend has a unit rented out to a Sec. 8 loser.
He says it's great; he gets direct deposit from Uncle Sam for her rent.
She's defrauding the government, he's not reporting income from his business, he has a safe full of silver coins (paid $45/ounce, sucker)
I have the joy of supporting those deadbeats with my money every April.
As a matter of principle, I would never rent to a Sec 8 asshole.

Someone under Section 8 is just poor. Do you normally discriminate against poor people? In California it takes at least five years to get into the program, doesn't matter what your situation is. Could you take advantage, certainly. Are some people in the system welfare by choice, yes. But not all of them.

My wife is a former single mother, and for that reason she had Section 8. She worked every day she had it. She worked in Social Services trying to help other people who also had Section 8. Some of them were entitled losers, but a lot of them genuinely needed help.

From a landlord/owner perspective, do you guys not run credit checks on everyone? Do you not look for evictions? Do you call up previous landlords and ask about timely rent payments, issues they faced with your prospective tenant? Do you verify their employment? You get what I'm saying right? Why does Section 8 change anything in your due diligence process? It shouldn't, so it shouldn't matter.

I had 10 SFH rentals. I was approached for Section 8 but would not do so because my homes were in majority owner working neighborhoods (1500 sqft,3-4 bedroom, 2.5 bath, 2 car) and I did not want to put a Section 8 right next door to where people worked to buy their homes.

I lived down the street from a Section 8 held house around 2002. It was a woman, her daughter and her granddaughter. The neighbors let me know about how bad the place was. The daughters boyfriend was a gang member in Los Angeles, this home was in the SFV(also a part of city of Los Angeles).

Each weekend he and his buddies would come out and deal drugs out of the house. This isn’t my opinion. A car would pull up, someone in the house would jump in, and the car would circle the block, return, and drop the person back off. The LAPD Foothill Station narcotics detectives had done undercover stings with minimal results. One of the neighbors had called the LA Housing Dept after one of those arrests, but since it didn’t involve the listed residents, housing didn’t do anything about it.

However, housing is super strict about various HUD rules. One of those rules is that you can’t have other residents living there.

Understand, these people had as many as 20-30 house guests on weekends(it was a 2400 sq ft home!) with as many as 7-10 cars on the lawn and driveway.

I worked a M-Th schedule at the time and was really wiped out on Thursday and took half the day off. I guess the gangsters got an early start on the weekend because when I got home at 1pm there were already 7 cars on the lawn. I called housing Dept, reported the address and said that they have tons of people living these. Housing asked how I knew the house was on Section 8 and I said the exact truth…that several neighbors had informed me when I moved in and there was only supposed to be the lady, her daughter, and granddaughter. About 3 pm a city passenger car drove up, stopped in front of the residence for about 5 min, and took several pictures.

The next day there were 3 cop cars there along with a couple city logo passenger vehicles.

The following Monday after work the next door senior neighbor came and told me that they had been question the lady and she said “oh I don’t know who any of these people are. They just show up here”. Of course no one believed her. But what they did do is use it as a cookie to get her to leave. They offered her a house in Lancaster and she took it. I never told any of the neighbors on the street that I called it in. But everyone was happy. The owner took the opportunity to sell. A wonderful Spanish speaking family bought it, entirely gutted the place and fixed it up themselves, making it the nicest home on the street.

"Boo hoo, I'm poor, please go to work and pay my rent ."