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PeopleUnited says

There were many authors producing books, pamphlets, running seminars, and even some politicians like Ron Paul throughout the 60’s even through today. The internet just made it easier to find them, but they have always been there. They predate the WWW. Truth didn’t magically appear out of nowhere

You don't understand. You don't have to be part of an "in group" anymore to know what is going on. That's the purpose of the internet, to break up insular groups.

PeopleUnited says

The point is it doesn’t matter. They still get what they want. By the time enough people know the truth, they are vilified like J6ers, Snowden, etc..

If this was 1990, Snowden would have been Jonathan Pollard and he would have received ZERO support or coverage. His leaks would have gone nowhere. There would be no Julian Assange. If Assange wrote a book (somehow - how would he have received his information) he would have been assassinated like Gary Webb was for ONE revelation, not 100's.

99% of the country would be January 6th WAS an insurrection, not 1/2 of the country.

We wouldn't be talking. Maybe you're just too old to appreciate what we have. I'm talking to a people in Turkey, Brazil, and China right and we're comparing notes. I'm the elder of the group (of course) and I can explain what they don't know. They're in their 20's. We compare notes across national borders.

Kicked one asshole off the group from San Francisco because "he disagreed", but couldn't explain why, or about what - he just didn't believe certain FACTS. You can get rid of trouble makers in a day. There's STILL people that argue to "win the argument" not to be right. That was EVERYBODY in 1990 but today, there's huge groups of people who know they don't know what is going on, and WANT to know what is going on.

We've never been in a place like this before. One guy I'm talking to is a fanatical Muslim, he knows I'm an atheist, and we can still talk. I don't know what religion the guy from Brazil or China has, if any. I don't consider it particularly important.

You just can't appreciate where we are. Government propaganda is dismantled in days, if not hours and that's a good thing.

I'm bored and need enterntainment.

Any fresh juicy predictions from that shoe size IQ McGregor cunt?

Eric Holder says

I'm bored and need enterntainment.

Any fresh juicy predictions from that shoe size IQ McGregor cunt?

Don't be stupid.

The latest news from the money hole known as Ukraine:

The Ukrainians got obliterated far from the Russian security line

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QDEGipA_YU

The latest video from Col. McGregor:

1,000,000 Russian troops all the way around Ukraine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdeKBsUNJLM

I was giving my propaganda brainwashed friend some background on Ukraine, and gave him a reference to The Duran for more balanced coverage from mainstream propaganda mills.

I have studied him closely, and I think he prefers the gruel of propaganda lies because it is easy to digest and keeps him in a calm state of denial. He doesn't want to undergo the grief therapy associated with recognizing the true, dismal state of things. He is a 'propaganda addict' having all of his thoughts, feelings, analysis and motives provided to him in a feedbag, and the withdrawal process is too painful.

He told me that I should just relax and accept the state of propaganda as less stressful mind dope. He knows something isn't right, but he wants to be cradled and suckled by the escapist propaganda rather than engaging the awakening requirements.

Ceffer says

He told me that I should just relax and accept the state of propaganda as less stressful mind dope. He knows something isn't right, but he wants to be cradled and suckled by the escapist propaganda rather than engaging the awakening requirements.

"Take the blue pill."

I'm going to watch "The Manchurian Candidate" tonight with my 14 yo son. Considering the state of our government, I think the film underestimated the extent our political system could be corrupted. I'm waiting until he's older until I suggest "1984," although that and "Animal Farm" are on my summer reading list for him.

All unfiltered truth in one place:

stereotomy says

I'm going to watch "The Manchurian Candidate" tonight with my 14 yo son. Considering the state of our government, I think the film underestimated the extent our political system could be corrupted. I'm waiting until he's older until I suggest "1984," although that and "Animal Farm" are on my summer reading list for him.

UPDATE: He loved it, and was on the edge of his seat for at least half of it. I had to promise that I wouldn't inject political commentary during the feature.

stereotomy,

Which version of the Manchurian Candidate did you watch?

stereotomy says

stereotomy says

I'm going to watch "The Manchurian Candidate" tonight with my 14 yo son. Considering the state of our government, I think the film underestimated the extent our political system could be corrupted. I'm waiting until he's older until I suggest "1984," although that and "Animal Farm" are on my summer reading list for him.

UPDATE: He loved it, and was on the edge of his seat for at least half of it. I had to promise that I wouldn't inject political commentary during the feature.

Did you watch the original 1962 film with Angela Lansbury, or the 2004 remake?

Angela Lansbury played a convincing Hillary Clinton in that film...

stereotomy says

I'm going to watch "The Manchurian Candidate" tonight with my 14 yo son.

Was this the old movie, or ObamaFuck's election?

richwicks says

Did you watch the original 1962 film with Angela Lansbury, or the 2004 remake?

Angela Lansbury played a convincing Hillary Clinton in that film...

Ceffer says

Was this the old movie, or ObamaFuck's election?

'Natch, it was the 1962 film. Since I had promised my son not to spout political commentary during the film, I didn't try to ascribe specific modern analogies to the characters. Now that richwicks mentions it - yeah it's fucked up how Angie nails the IHLlary. I wonder who Senator Jordan (the good guy, not the Iselin character) was supposed to represent - especially considering this was 1962 and JFK would be capped in the next year.

EDIT: Ha - https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/great-movie-the-manchurian-candidate-1962

The film has become so linked with the Kennedy assassination that a legend has grown up around it. Frank Sinatra, the film's star, purchased the rights and kept it out of release from 1964 until 1988, and the story goes that he was inspired by remorse after Kennedy's death. In fact, the director John Frankenheimer told me, Sinatra had a dispute with United Artists about the profits, and decided it would earn no money for the studio or anyone else. The DVD includes a conversation by Sinatra, Frankenheimer and writer George Axelrod, taped when the movie was finally re-released. Sinatra says it was the high point of his acting career; nobody mentions why it was unseen for 24 years.

Over two hours long, but well worth the time. Don't miss this fantastic interview with Col. Douglas Macgregor:

Col. Douglas Macgregor | PBD Podcast

In this Episode, Col. Douglas Macgregor joins PBD and Tom. They discuss Russia, Ukraine, the woke military, the Trump Tape, China, and much more. Douglas Macgregor is a decorated combat veteran, the author of five books, graduate of West Point, a PhD, and a Defense and Foreign Policy consultant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o92oSgU17Lo

Another great interview with Col. Douglas Macgregor.

Explains, among other items, cluster bombs, and why he considers them to be so evil.

Douglas Macgregor & Kim Iversen: The Russians Have 750.000 Troops Ready to Attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0rgUwpHX6M

Biden Says The US Is Low On Artillery Ammunition...

That is why he is sending cluster bombs to Ukraine until more munitions are produced!

Biden told CNN "This is a war relating to munitions. And they’re running out of that ammunition, and we’re low on it. And so... I took the recommendation of the Defense Department to allow... [the cluster bombs]"

A White House official said: "We are authorizing cluster munitions to ensure that Ukraine is not left defenseless while we wait for our own domestic production of ammunition to ramp up substantially..." https://nypost.com/2023/07/09/biden-lets-slip-during-interview-us-low-on-artillery-ammunition-rounds-as-it-tries-to-aid-ukraine/

Wow, we are waiting "for our own domestic production of ammunition to ramp up substantially!"

In other words the rape and plunder of the USA is so complete we don't have any artillery shells left to defend ourselves!

The_Deplorable says

A White House official said: "We are authorizing cluster munitions to ensure that Ukraine is not left defenseless while we wait for our own domestic production of ammunition to ramp up substantially..." https://nypost.com/2023/07/09/biden-lets-slip-during-interview-us-low-on-artillery-ammunition-rounds-as-it-tries-to-aid-ukraine/

Wow, we are waiting "for our own domestic production of ammunition to ramp up substantially!"

Somebody needs to get on www.alibaba.com...

Seriously - some parts of our military equipment is made in China. That's how clueless and incompetent our government is.

The_Deplorable says

In other words the rape and plunder of the USA is so complete we don't have any artillery shells left to defend ourselves!

Well, that's what Americans get for allowing their government to rape and pillage for 20 years a bunch of countries that we have no fucking business being in. This is what people deserve when they can't even be troubled to know what wars the United States is in.

This are the chickens coming home to roost.

richwicks says

Well, that's what Americans get for allowing their government to rape and pillage for 20 years a bunch of countries that we have no fucking business being in. This is what people deserve when they can't even be troubled to know what wars the United States is in.

It's not like we citizens can do anything about it.

GNL says

richwicks says

Well, that's what Americans get for allowing their government to rape and pillage for 20 years a bunch of countries that we have no fucking business being in. This is what people deserve when they can't even be troubled to know what wars the United States is in.

It's not like we citizens can do anything about it.

Most citizens don't even CARE to know, so certainly they won't even try to do anything about it, they won't even discuss it.

But they'll scream like mad that we live in a free and fair dumbocrazy and boy will they attack you if YOU dare to talk about it.

The latest from Ret. Col. Douglas Magregor:

The Russian Forces Have Broken Through In Great Strength

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSpQ5leon10

If NATO Goes Toe-To-Toe With The Russians NATO WILL LOSE - Ret. Col. Douglas Macgregor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg1qF41g2eU

GNL says

richwicks says

Well, that's what Americans get for allowing their government to rape and pillage for 20 years a bunch of countries that we have no fucking business being in. This is what people deserve when they can't even be troubled to know what wars the United States is in.

It's not like we citizens can do anything about it.

yeah no one asked me, we out here just get told. and if we disagree we are dismissed as “russian bots”.

When the military is controlled by the City of London, and the P3 Masons through the Vatican, the CFR, the Trilateral Commission, the foreign occupied foreign city state of Washington DC etc., its activities become entirely detached from the will of our citizens. We are just taxation gimps.

GNL says

richwicks says

Well, that's what Americans get for allowing their government to rape and pillage for 20 years a bunch of countries that we have no fucking business being in. This is what people deserve when they can't even be troubled to know what wars the United States is in.

It's not like we citizens can do anything about it.

American's aren't even bothered enough to know who were are bombing or why so they can't even mount any sort of defense against it, they can't even complain about it.

That's a complete failure of civic responsibility.

I take some credit for educating people about the Ukraine war, the coup that I think is the most obvious coup in history, the division of the country because of the Holodomor and the reason Crimea isn't ever going to be allowed to be owned by Ukraine as it's a major Russian military base.

I give Ukraine a 0% chance of winning this war, without NATO coming in to fight directly, and I don't think Europe is interested in this war, although the United States is. Europe is going to be facing a choice of whether they want to do WWII, or just like Russia take over Eastern Ukraine, and leave Western Ukraine to rot in disarray.

I really don't think the US is even interested in Ukraine wining this war. Once it's finally over, Ukrainians are going to be desperate for peace, tired of war, and American oligarchs are going to go in and take over the resources of Western Ukraine, and none of it will benefit the Ukrainian people. The US is doing to Ukraine what they are trying to do with Southern Syria or what we did to Iraq.

NONE of this is good for the United States as a nation, but a few very wealthy powerful people will walk out ahead.

Youtube has pulled all of Macgregor's latest videos. Macgregor has been telling the truth about the failed Ukraine offensive, linking it to proof that Ukraine cannot defeat Russia. If the American people become educated to the fact that this is a failed cause, they will demand a stop to the money pouring into Ukraine. Obviously, Youtube is doing their part to keep people in the dark.

Sadly, Macgregor was naive enough to trust GooTube.

I hope he gets a clue and moves to Rumble or some other uncensored service now.

Patrick says

Sadly, Macgregor was naive enough to trust GooTube.

I hope he gets a clue and moves to Rumble or some other uncensored service now.

I wrote on his channel multiple times asking him to move to another site or have a backup.

I hate youtube anyhow. You can't find anything even if you know exactly what you're looking for, if it's anything related to a current event, propaganda tv news is shoved down your throat, 1/2 your comments never show up and are shadowbanned, and you can't have an authentic conversation there.

@RayAmerica - this might be a backup channel of it: https://www.youtube.com/@DouglasMacgregorFanChannel

His last channel was just deleted: https://www.youtube.com/@DouglasMacgregorStraightCalls

But here's his new one: https://www.youtube.com/@douglasmacgregorTV

Unfiltered truth about McGregor's lack of functioning brain cells:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E_NegaBRfRU

RWSGFY says

Unfiltered truth about McGregor's lack of functioning brain cells:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E_NegaBRfRU

Understand that this guy Ryan McBeth is a military contractor who profits from war. He lost me when he said "The media never claimed that Ukraine was winning."

HeadSet says

Understand that this guy Ryan McBeth is a military contractor who profits from war. He lost me when he said "The media never claimed that Ukraine was winning."

I follow pretty closely, and don't recall the MSM flat out saying that Ukraine is winning. Most have been critical of Ukraine's slow counteroffensive. At best they will say that Ukraine has done better than expected and Russia has done worse.

Whereas McGregor has said several times that Russia is less than a week from total victory, most notably saying this a few days before Ukraine's major success in Kharkiv and Kherson.

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1) EU is offering about $55 billion (US dollars) to Ukraine from 2024 to 2027

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-unveil-50bln-euro-aid-package-ukraine-sources-2023-06-20/

2) Biden is asking for $24 billion for Ukraine in the 2024 budget. The 2022 and 2023 budgets each funded about $50 billion for Ukraine.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-asks-us-congress-40-billion-including-24-billion-ukraine-2023-08-10/

3) Maybe this is part of the wind down as the 2025 budget may be based on a cease fire at least.

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socal2 says

HeadSet says

Understand that this guy Ryan McBeth is a military contractor who profits from war. He lost me when he said "The media never claimed that Ukraine was winning."

I follow pretty closely, and don't recall the MSM flat out saying that Ukraine is winning. Most have been critical of Ukraine's slow counteroffensive. At best they will say that Ukraine has done better than expected and Russia has done worse.

Whereas McGregor has said several times that Russia is less than a week from total victory, most notably saying this a few days before Ukraine's major success in Kharkiv and Kherson.

We have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here. The media and warmonger narrative sounds like the same bullshit that was spouted during the Vietnam War. And the US eventuality retreated with its tail tucked. This conflict is fucking asinine and could be wound down starting with a ceasefire and diplomacy tomorrow. It's irrelevant who is "leading" in this war as both sides tech is approximately close enough to waste many more lives over the next years

socal2 says

I follow pretty closely, and don't recall the MSM flat out saying that Ukraine is winning.

This is like saying "I don't recall the MSM saying I needed to get a vaccination".

Stop being gaslit and stop gaslighting other people. Everybody is sick of it.

richwicks says

socal2 says

I follow pretty closely, and don't recall the MSM flat out saying that Ukraine is winning.

This is like saying "I don't recall the MSM saying I needed to get a vaccination".

True, as it seems like the MSM reports daily only good news about the Ukraine military such as it taking out a few Russian tanks, a Russian helicopter, etc.

So the string of good news over the last 18 months gives the perception or impression that Ukraine is faring well in the war.

Its no different than other MSM indoctrination or "blue pilled" programming such as when they promoted vaccinations and masks, and made Fauci look like a well-intentioned and competent public servant.

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ad says

True, as it seems like the MSM reports daily only good news about the Ukraine military such as it taking out a few Russian tanks, a Russian helicopter, etc.

I don't have a pony in this race. Regardless of what is being reported, Russia looks weak, there's no doubting that. Really don't know the end goal for any of the parties involved. Russia would get stomped by NATO/EU allies in a real conflict. This really is just a waste of life and time. Give Russia a sliver of land to the east to Crimea and call it a day. This is beyond retarded at this point

WookieMan says

ad says

True, as it seems like the MSM reports daily only good news about the Ukraine military such as it taking out a few Russian tanks, a Russian helicopter, etc.

I don't have a pony in this race. Regardless of what is being reported, Russia looks weak, there's no doubting that. Really don't know the end goal for any of the parties involved. Russia would get stomped by NATO/EU allies in a real conflict. This really is just a waste of life and time. Give Russia a sliver of land to the east to Crimea and call it a day. This is beyond retarded at this point

But but Russia has nukes and is saving Christianity or something by using Chechen and Syrian jihadis to kill Ukrainians.

Of course this war had totally exposed Russia as a third rate military power. It will take decades to recover the men and material that Putin foolishly threw away in his botched invasion. Russia was already in a demographic death spiral before the war.

Ukraine is suffering massively as well but is forging a history and national identity that can propel their society for generations.