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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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2022 Feb 23, 8:30pm   439,457 views  4,272 comments

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2753   Patrick   2023 Aug 9, 2:51pm  

https://vigilantfox.substack.com/p/rfk-jr-reveals-what-the-media-will


RFK Jr. Reveals What The Media Will Never Tell You About Ukraine: “The US Wanted This War”

• According to Kennedy, President Zelensky had intentions of signing the Minsk Accords, a peace agreement with Russia over a year ago.

• The agreement left Ukraine intact but provided protections for ethnic Russians in Ukraine.

• Putin started withdrawing his troops. However, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson was sent to Ukraine to “kill the agreement.”

• The US marketed Ukraine as a humanitarian crisis. Yet, when pressed, US leaders said the objectives were regime change in Russia and the exhaustion of the Russian army.

“The story that we’re told that there was an unprovoked invasion by Putin is not the accurate story,” declared Kennedy. “There’s another story, and that is that the US wanted this war.”
2754   Patrick   2023 Aug 10, 8:04am  

https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-vows-to-sacrifice-as-many-ukrainian-lives-as-it-takes-to-defeat-russia


WASHINGTON, D.C. — In a bold statement of strength and resolve, President Joe Biden vowed to keep up the war effort against Russia as long as any Ukrainian man, woman, or child was left drawing breath to fight.

"As President of America, I am willing to sacrifice as many Ukrainian lives as it takes," said Biden. "We will keep using Ukraine to fight a proxy war until an entire generation is dead and all of my money is laundered. You have my word!"

As the war rages on, Biden reiterated his support for Ukrainians fighting hard while he sits back and watches. "The United States is proud to hide behind the Ukrainian people as a nation full of human shields," he said. "Even if it leads to Putin using nuclear weapons on the people of Ukraine, we are willing to take that risk. End of speech. Walk away from podium."
2755   The_Deplorable   2023 Aug 10, 11:10am  

The imbecility and stupidity here are breathtaking.

Patrick says

"In a bold statement of strength and resolve, President Joe Biden vowed to keep up the war effort against Russia as long as any Ukrainian man, woman, or child was left drawing breath to fight."

[Emphasis mine]
Biden is following the same "strategery" followed by Winston Churchill at Gallipoli where he kept fighting the Turks until he run out of English, Australian and New Zealand troops. These idiots are still fighting the same war and the same tactics in the Ukraine.

And in Ukraine, the lives of the Ukranian people don't matter because as Alfred, Lord Tennyson‘ put it - in The Charge of the Light Brigade...

...'though the soldier knew
Someone had blundered.
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die.
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.


And to make matters worse, they are fighting the Russians who are very much aware of the fact!
2756   richwicks   2023 Aug 11, 10:15pm  

The_Deplorable says

Biden is following the same "strategery" followed by Winston Churchill at Gallipoli where he kept fighting the Turks until he run out of English, Australian and New Zealand troops. These idiots are still fighting the same war and the same tactics in the Ukraine.


Not to embarrass you, but Patrick's quote is from the Babylon Bee which is a satire site.

But it is what the west is doing. I don't think there is ANY hope of Ukraine winning this war, and when it's over, it will be East and West Ukraine, and West Ukraine will need to be rebuilt, and there will be a bunch of vulture corporations to swing in to do it, at the expense of taking over all their natural resources of course.

The longer this war goes on, the worse it will be for the survivors. Ukrainians are basically fighting at this point to make their country weaker and more vulnerable to foreign vultures.
2758   Patrick   2023 Aug 14, 9:47pm  

https://sashastone.substack.com/p/tucker-carlson-episode-16-with-rfk

RFK Jr gives a clear explanation of the war in Ukraine starting just after 12 minutes in.
2764   Patrick   2023 Aug 17, 1:11pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/livin-in-the-new-world-thursday-august


We still have a long way to go, but by their inherently unstable design, massive corrupt conspiracies must fail. They can only grow by adding people in two incompetent categories: (1) useful idiots — who are idiots after all, and (2) corrupt people, who are always ultimately ungovernable.

The Proxy War is a great metaphor for where we are in this global conflict.

This will trigger a few folks, but imagine the Russians represent the right-thinking masses. NATO represents the Leftist élite machine. NATO is throwing everything in its arsenal at the Russian underdog, but the Russians tenaciously hang on to their gains and, inch by bloody inch, between wins and losses, are slowly, inexorably, winning the war. Similarly, the Left is running everything in its human-skin-bound playbook at the World, but the World is hanging on and slowly, painfully, winning.
2767   richwicks   2023 Aug 21, 4:22pm  

Patrick says






Come on Patrick, we're both nerds.

The liberals were the assholes always, and the people that suck up to them. Liberals are the sociopaths, and the toadies currying favor.
2769   RWSGFY   2023 Aug 22, 9:01am  

Zeihan on F-16 and long-range weapons: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cem-58_NKjA&feature=youtu.be
2770   RWSGFY   2023 Aug 22, 9:03am  

Patrick says







Yep, these American families could use some surplus M777 howitzers right now....
2771   Patrick   2023 Aug 22, 10:16am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/abyssal-tuesday-august-22-2023-c


Although the Russians were not prepared in February 2022 for this kind of war, they are now. And they’re continuing to prepare, which includes continuous mobilization. They’re up to 750,00 troops in and around Ukraine. That number is going to rise in the next year to 1.2 million.

Our intransigence, our demonstrated hatred and hostility toward Moscow and for Russia, has convinced the Russian people — as well as the leadership in Moscow — that they are going to have to fight us, and anyone allied with us.

So they’re preparing for that eventuality. That’s why it’s so important we wake up and understand that what we’ve done has backfired. Whatever we’ve set out to achieve has failed. ...

Listening to Macgregor’s confident, well-reasoned analysis, which smacked of commonsense expertise, it occurred to me that our strategy in Ukraine was perfect — perfect for the Russians, that is. If Biden had wanted to give Moscow a TED Talk on exactly how to beat NATO, he could never have dreamed up a better — worse — way. Biden has presented the Russians with a limited, slowly escalating engagement, against a corrupt, weak opponent, where NATO’s best weapons systems were gradually introduced, giving the Russians time to adjust, learn, and adapt, while continuously adding vast numbers soldiers — who are all becoming skilled battlefield veterans.

Meanwhile, Ukrainian soldiers are not becoming veterans, they are dying in droves. Even if we have a few thousand NATO troops stealthily involved, that’s nothing compared to the incalculable number of Russian troops gaining practical experience in fighting a modern, high-tech kinetic war. It’s a completely different kind of war than anything in human history. As Macgregor noted, in this new kind of war, all units are visible on the battlefield all the time. If something moves, it gets shot at and destroyed.

To fight the war this way was woke incompetence beyond imagination, sheer madness, badly misplaced hubris, possibly the worst and most reckless military strategy ever conceived in the Joint Chiefs’ transsexual, pride-flagged conference rooms — ever.

As I said, it was a jam-packed, tightly-edited, hour-long interview. There’s a lot there. Toward the end, Tucker showed Colonel Macgregor a clip of an American psyoperator who went to work for Ukraine, a man who dresses like a woman, in Ukrainian uniform, who explained how our war generals (and certain folks in the comments) see things:



As the two men watched, former Florida resident ‘Sarah’ Cirillo, now a Ukraine army spokesman, explained in the clip (in part):

CIRILLO: “If you look at Putin’s mouth, you’ll notice blood drips from it. He’s a vampire, carrying out genocide against both Ukraine and Russians alike. Vlad Putin bathes in the blood of innocent children and enjoys it. And this is why the dictator of the Russian Federation must be deposed.”
That over-the-top nonsense came from an official Ukrainian military announcement.
2773   Patrick   2023 Aug 22, 12:46pm  

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1693761723230990509

Lol, this Colonel Douglas Macgregor guy is good. "Instead of consent of the governed, we have contempt for the governed." and "If the donor class were cannibals, the government would feed Americans to them."

He also makes the valid point that a lot of this war seems driven by the hatred of people like Nuland and Blinken and the entire donor class for Russia because their Jewish ancestors were oppressed by Russia. Sure, their ancestors (and some of my own) were oppressed by tsarist Russia, but it's wrong to make their ethnic hatred for Russians and Ukrainians into US policy.
2774   Patrick   2023 Aug 23, 10:58am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/brief-struggles-wednesday-august


CNN had to admit that Establishment Media’s anti-Putin campaign just seems to be making the Russian leader more and more popular:

Countries’ wide interest in joining BRICS is also a boost for Putin – who remains welcome in the bloc despite being seen as a pariah and war criminal in the West. It also points to a widening gap between the priorities of those countries lining up for BRICS and the wealthy Western nations that have united against him in support of Ukraine, analysts say.

You’d think a real threat to replace the dollar would interest Americans, but the story has been embargoed by nearly all the major Establishment Media players. It’s almost like they’re terrified people will find out about this problem. ...

While CNN characterized the meeting as just some boring discussions about adding new members — twenty-two countries want to join — the meeting is really about the creation of the group’s new gold-backed currency, which is intended to dethrone the dollar. ...

For Portanders: the M1 graph shows the amount of dollars in circulation increased from a long-established, stable 4,000 billion in 2020 to over 20,000 billion in just 24 months. In other words, there is now FIVE TIMES AS MUCH CASH IN CIRCULATION as there was in January 2020. ...

So in other words, in one fell swoop, by devaluing the currency, we just gave ourselves a 75% discount on everything we’ve ever bought from Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, India, you name it. Everyone holding dollars watched their holdings be suddenly and unexpectedly miniaturized.

Honey, we shrunk the dollar!

Now — for some reason — Russia and China and a lot of other countries are like, hey, wait a minute. We need a stable world currency. A currency backed by gold, so that it can’t be shrunk whenever the issuing country doesn’t feel like paying its debts. And then, to add insult to injury, on top of shrinking the dollar, Biden also excreted a massively-complicated set of international sanctions rules, telling other countries what they can and can’t buy from each other, making their dollars even harder to use.
2779   The_Deplorable   2023 Aug 25, 10:16am  

This is so true. The neoCon/Globalist imbecility is breathtaking!

Patrick says


2780   Patrick   2023 Aug 26, 1:08pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/quid-pro-joe-saturday-august-26-2023


Russia’s Ministry of Defense published its updated report on Ukrainian materiel losses yesterday. Count the cost (to US taxpayers):

📊 In total, 464 airplanes, 246 helicopters, 6,122 unmanned aerial vehicles, 433 air defence missile systems, 11,513 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 1,144 fighting vehicles equipped with MLRS, 6,062 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 12,441 special military motor vehicles have been destroyed during the special military operation.

Carpers will predictably wail that Russia’s MOD is a lake of pure propaganda, which is pretty rich, given the vast ocean of propaganda dished up by Ukrainian and NATO sources. Show me where the accurate figures are before you start whining.

Anyway, I’m not saying I have any idea whether those numbers are accurate or not. How could I? I’m just saying. I’m just saying that Russian information has been more reliable than anything from Western sources, so far. That’s all. Don’t be triggered.

Actually, I’m just saying we could’ve used some of those wasted billions that were literally burned to ashes in Ukraine to rebuild Lahaina, which was literally burned to ashes.
2783   Ceffer   2023 Aug 28, 11:23am  

Self serving political crime family logic. Not what's best for the Republic. What's best for their criminal enterprises, and we should joyously embrace the slaughter of nations to those ends, so that Romney's kids can collect a laundered paycheck from Ukraine along with Hunter. There is no 'defense of our nation' in Ukraine, only the defense of the Globalist nexus of money laundering, trafficking, drug sales and arms sales. The megalomaniac criminals believe that what is good for them and their criminal enterprises is what our nation is all about.
What is most remarkable is that this fool Romney believes this is a convincing argument.

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=228324
2787   Eric Holder   2023 Aug 29, 8:36pm  

The main Red Army Airborne (VDV) base in Pskov has just been de-nazified and de-militarized to the tune of several Il-76 cargo jets burned to the ground by drones. The Reds even admitted the loss of two, which means it's bad. This is roughly 400 miles from the border.

"What air defense doing?"


2791   Patrick   2023 Aug 31, 9:45am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/inevitability-thursday-august-31


The UK Telegraph ran another contrary Proxy War op-ed last week headlined, “Ukraine’s army is running out of men to recruit, and time to win.” The sub-headline even more controversially suggested, “Victory may be in sight for Vladimir Putin.”

A win for Vampire Putin! Say it isn’t so. How did that get past the censors?

After acknowledging some minor wins for Ukraine in last week’s fighting, the author described the vast difference between the dwindling number of potential soldiers available to Ukraine versus the relatively huge, steadily-increasing numbers available to Russia:

It’s a brutal but simple calculation: Kyiv is running out of men. US sources have calculated that armed forces have lost as many as 70,000 killed in action, with another 100,000 injured. While Russian casualties are higher still, the ratio nevertheless favours Moscow, as Ukraine struggles to replace soldiers in the face of a seemingly endless supply of conscripts.

Volunteers are no longer coming forward in numbers sufficient to keep the army at fighting strength: those most willing to fight signed up years ago. The latest recruitment slogan is “it’s OK to be afraid,” but there are still many attempting to dodge being drafted to fight on the front lines.

Not too good. But the vast mismatch between Ukraine’s available armed forces and what Russia can muster has been easily known from the very beginning of the conflict. So, why are op-eds appearing now citing how badly Ukraine is outnumbered? This tardy analysis mostly resembles a typical media narrative shift, where op-editors are recruited in the first wave to soften the blow and to provide some stuffing for a developing replacement narrative.

Here’s the Proxy War’s narrative timeline:

Stage 1: Russian victory is impossible.

Stage 2: Russian victory is unlikely.

Stage 3: Russia cannot be allowed to win.

Stage 4: Russia is winning, but at what cost?

Stage 5: Russian victory was inevitable.

Currently, we seem to have departed Narrative Stage 4 en route to Stage 5.


I'm starting to think that the primary US goal of provoking Russia to attack Ukraine was simply to kill as many young Ukrainian men as possible.
2792   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2023 Aug 31, 10:28am  

Ok, I caved to social media pressure!

I am now including Ukey colors in some of my posts.

Here they are:


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