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AmericanKulak says

Almost certainly.

Birdbrain Biden gave Iran $6 billion. Easy for Iran to give $100 million to Hamas but what does Ukraine and Afghanistan have that Hamas does not already have ?

It is not as if you saw Hamas fly Blackhawk helicopters or operate Abrams tanks during this attack.

Seemed like they relied on AK 47 rifles and pickup trucks as well as basic RPGs, as if they were armed like Somali pirates.

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ad says

Seemed like they relied on AK 47 rifles and pickup trucks as well as basic RPGs, as if they were armed like Somali pirates.

Check this out:



https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1710789177598427210


https://x.com/ThePoliticalPom/status/1710749940794720629?s=20

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I am asking you if you think the attack today on Israel was conducted by Hamas.

It was a false flag done by Israel. Hamas is controlled by Israeli intelligence. It was invented as a counterpoint on the PLO.

You know how the Mujahideen was an ally of the United States in the 1980's because it was fighting the USSR? Remember how the Mujahideen became "the Taliban" when the Mujahideen wouldn't cooperate with US interests to exploit Afghanistan? Remember how binLaden was a "freedom fighter" in the 1980's and was supported by the CIA during that time? Remember how the binLaden family was flown out of the US on 9/12 and were the ONLY people allowed to fly? Remember when Hillary Clinton, being the stupid dumb cunt she is, had to be told "AQ is on our side in Syria."?

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23225

All this shit is an ILLUSION.

Israel wants to retake Gaza, this dumb thing that happened - WHO benefits? Are the people of Gaza going to win this conflict? Is there the REMOTEST possibility they can win it? Qui Bono?

It's funny how Israel's and the US' enemies always do the exact thing that can't possibly help them in any conceivable way, but give a completely justified excuse to bomb the enemy. Isn't it WEIRD they keep doing this?

Assad gassed his own people. How weird he did the ONE THING that Obama warned that IF HE DID, it would bring US involvement into Syria. Just amazing isn't it? How dumb these people are? How dumb their advisors are? Gassing these people didn't do anything for Assad or Syria. Gee whiz, it almost looks like a false flag to be blamed on Assad to justify a war in Syria, which is EXACTLY what it was.

You know how every group is infiltrated by the FIB? Like January 6th, it was the FIB encouraging violence and trespassing and so on? Every group is infiltrated. Hamas is NO different than Al Qaeda, the Patriot Front, etc. Every single group is infiltrated.

Now tell me, will these actions help or hurt Hamas in say, a few months? Will they be better or worse off?

You can do a false flag USING people (stupid people) in the group to do it. Patsies, morons. People too dumb to realize they are being manipulated into doing something that will hurt them and leave them worse off.

AmericanKulak says

Our media is neoliberal propaganda. The Left in this country (and in the UK, and in Europe) is pretty solidly anti-Israel, though not to the same degree as the Euro State Media

It's NEOCON propaganda.

Neoliberal? That what Bill Kristol is now. See?

He's a "democrat" now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Kristol

You claim that our media is anti-Israel - really? Do you know who Shireen Abu Akleh is? You would, if our "news" was anti-Israel.

When Israel does something REALLY bad, it gets out. It's not just controlled by the teeeveeee anymore, we have the Internet. People hear about it, and talk about it, THEN when enough people know about it the propaganda box has to take control of the situation, THEY will report on it, in the MILDEST of ways. First they start with the bare essentials of what happened, and then they start developing excuses as to WHY is happened, and at the end, "turns out Israel was justified after all!!!"

They did that with Rachael Corrie. People who respond in defense of killing Rachael Corrie will show pictures of her burning an American flag drawn on a piece of paper, or will point out her "ultra liberal views" - it's a PAVLOVIAN response. It doesn't matter what her politics are, the point is she's dead. People have a right to make mistakes and be wrong, but that doesn't justify murder.

AmericanKulak says

Occam's Razor, he knows it wasn't Israel. Just as Trump knows it wasn't. It was elements in US intelligence, same ones who killed Patton.

You don't know what Occam's Razor says, and it's purposely said to mean "the simplest explanation is likely to be the correct one". NO, that's not Occam's Razor.

It's the explanation with the least number of assumptions is likely to be the correct explanation. An explanation with NO assumptions at all in it, MUST be the correct explanation. That's such a pet peeve of mine.

AmericanKulak says

I've read about JFK Assassination extensively, and never came across the Israel Theory.

Yeah, of course. Most of what is published about the JFK assassination is misdirection. Look, it's easy to find bullshit in mass media:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0skCyy7TObQ

That's complete BS about 9/11.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZJZRxBrS4I

That's Judy Woods, why is "misinformation" allowed on YouTube? Because the information she gives is totally wrong, she's a kookifier, she's a propagandist. Her job is to crazy up the whole discussion on 9/11.

JFK was killed for MULTIPLE reasons, but ONE of them is Dimona. It's like when we go to war, it's not just for one reason, it's for like a dozen reasons. Multiple groups have their own agenda, and when enough groups come together to do something that serves THEIR particular interests THEN it happens.

CIA was certainly involved, otherwise we wouldn't still have classified documents about it.

richwicks says

It was a false flag done by Israel. Hamas is controlled by Israeli intelligence. It was invented as a counterpoint on the PLO.

So Israel's government organized and operated this attack on Israel ?

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richwicks says

It was a false flag done by Israel. Hamas is controlled by Israeli intelligence. It was invented as a counterpoint on the PLO.

So Israel's government organized and operated this attack on Israel ?

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Yes, obviously.

Who does this advantage? Gaza or Israel?

You need to stop thinking "they would never do that!!" - you mean YOU wouldn't do that. I'm sure your have morality and a sense of right and wrong - they don't. This gives them an excuse to take Gaza, and I bet that's what they are going to do.

They need public support to do what they are going to do - this is the way of getting support. Israel lies all the time, every country does.

When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, did you know we definitely had advanced knowledge of this? First, there was a Japanese spy sub sunk in the harbor, seriously:

https://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/photography/wars-and-events/world-war-ii/pearl-harbor-raid/japanese-forces-in-the-pearl-harbor-attack/japanese-midget-submarines-used-in-the-attack-on-pearl-harbor.html

Most of our important ships were NOT at dock at the time, they were out doing maneuvers.

You have to think more cynically, a LOT more cynically to see this for what it is. Who does this attack advantage? It's Israel. The Palestinians are no match for the IDF. Now we're hearing that the Taliban wants to show up... sure..

I just smell a rat.

AmericanKulak says

ad says

Seemed like they relied on AK 47 rifles and pickup trucks as well as basic RPGs, as if they were armed like Somali pirates.

Check this out:

How do we know it's indeed an American M4 and not Iranian clone of it called Fajr?

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richwicks says

It was a false flag done by Israel. Hamas is controlled by Israeli intelligence. It was invented as a counterpoint on the PLO.

So Israel's government organized and operated this attack on Israel ?

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Don't you see the brilliance of the plan?

1. Organize and operate attack on your own citizens, film and translate executions of civilians, hostage-taking, capturing of armoured vehicles and FOBs and such, bomb your own cities.

2. Make it look like your IAD, army and intelligence got caught with their pants down.

3. ...

4. PROFIT! (And 10% to the Big Guy)

RWSGFY says

Don't you see the brilliance of the plan?

1. Organize and operate attack on your own citizens, film and translate executions of civilians, hostage-taking, capturing of armoured vehicles and FOBs and such, bomb your own cities.

2. Make it look like your IAD, army and intelligence got caught with their pants down.

3. ...

4. PROFIT! (And 10% to the Big Guy)

No, stop playing stupid, I know you aren't.

It's not about profit, it's about expansion of land holdings and power.

Our government, without ANY DOUBT, was involved with the bombing of the WTC in 1993. No doubt, and I mean NO DOUBT. Emad Salem was embedded in the group, and was a FIB informant. He warned them what was about to happened, and the DOJ attempted to prosecute him as a co-conspirator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emad_Salem

Why would they do this? He was a FIB collaborator, and he didn't trust the FIB, so he recorded all his conversations with the FIB, so if the FIB back stabbed him (and they did), he could start releasing audio tapes of what he told the FIB to PREVENT the WTC bombing in 1993. That's what he did, that's what saved him, if he wasn't murdered later.

It's not about profit, it about power, it's about shaping public opinions to do what you want. We are ALL effected by propaganda, me included. I'm aware of how a LOT of it works, but there's specialists that work in this shit. Israel, is ready to "take revenge now", well, that's the purpose of this attack.

Does GAZA profit from this, in any FUCKING conceivable way?

So why did they do it? Israel will profit. They will quickly be able to move into Gaza and do whatever the fuck they want. I don't know what they want yet, but I'll find out in a few months, maybe years, because they will get what they want.

This is the group that did the attack on the USS Liberty, the Lavon Affair. Do you know what the Patria disaster is?

Israel is not unique in this, the US does this shit too. The problem we have today is that we have a gullible public that thinks these are actual organic events. They aren't. That's why they get away with it. If people KNEW, it would stop. It's GOVERNMENTS that create conflict, not people. What do I have against a Russian or an Iraqi? Nothing, and neither do you. But my government wants to kill them.

Understand that you're a pawn. I am too. Who wants power? Would you want the responsibility of taking care of this nation? Neither does Biden, that's why he's abdicated all of his responsibility. He's just a sociopath. You don't understand what that is - I'll give you an idea. When his son Beau died of brain cancer, he setup a charity for research on glioma. You know what he did with the money? He kept it. Imagine using your child's death to add to your already ample wealth, stealing from people that wanted to help, that felt empathy, that felt an obligation to cure - and just stealing from them, using your child's death to do it. That's Joe Biden. Imagine killing 100's of thousands of people to make a few million dollars by cynically claiming it was about democracy, stealing from the US taxpayer BILLIONS, impoverishing millions - that the Ukraine war. You don't understand (and I know it's difficult) to understand what a sociopath is. They have no empathy. They aren't human really, they are missing key ingredients that makes this a stable society, and because you can't understand just how twisted and messed up they are, we have to live in this twisted and messed up world. Most people can't.

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This post is dedicated to RichWicks. The below statement was made today by RFK jr. And Trump was right that the $6 billion from Birdbrain Biden to Iran was going to be used to support terrorism. They easily can send $50 million to Hamas to stage terrorist events like what unfolded today in Israel.

Look, everybody is a terrorist. What do you think Shock and Awe was? It was a bombardment of Baghdad to get the population to capitulate. Terrorism is used by everybody.

I don't think Iran is so poor they needed 6 billion dollars, and I know Iran doesn't give a shit about Palestinians, nobody does.

ad says

-RFK Jr

I don't give two shits about what RFK Jr. says. Public statements are made for the public. RFK is right about the vaccines, and I appreciate him about that, but he doesn't understand anything about Israel.

I think the fool thinks he has a shot at the presidency, he's naive and childish. We'll have Joe Biden or some other puppet like Gavin Newsom.

Patrick says

Hamas could get a lot of support in the US if instead they went after, say, the Sackler family that murdered 1+ million Americans with opiates, or the Pritzker family, who are the primary supporters of child genital mutilation.

Right. Isn't it strange they don't.

If I was a murderer, and I'm not, the people I would go after would be obvious criminals, that didn't get any prosecution. I wouldn't waste my time with politicians, they are just propagandists and puppets. They are inconsequential.

richwicks says

They did that with Rachael Corrie. People who respond in defense of killing Rachael Corrie will show pictures of her burning an American flag drawn on a piece of paper, or will point out her "ultra liberal views" - it's a PAVLOVIAN response. It doesn't matter what her politics are, the point is she's dead. People have a right to make mistakes and be wrong, but that doesn't justify murder.

When you look deeper, it gels. She's from an NPR family and attended far left radical Evergreen College. You remember the school that wanted to have a "No Whites on Campus Day" and then a group of students lead by fat left radical profs intimidated Brett Weinstein and the Admin refused to act?

The Biden Admin is FUCKING TERRIFIED.

On one hand, they have their "In the Bag" Dark Blue Chicago and NYC Mayors complaining about immigrants and open borders. People are noticing that Israel has big border walls, that were breached on a combo Sabbath/Holiday at multiple points. That just a month ago, Biden paid a $6B Danegeld to Iran.

People are connecting the dots. They're seeing what Neoliberal open borders are. Neocons are just neoliberals who thought they could make a few examples here and there to get total global compliance. Neocons are yesteryear's news. The threat is Neo"liberal" Fascism. Better described as Anti-National Globalists, IMHO. Or NWO, choose your words.

richwicks says

Does GAZA profit from this, in any FUCKING conceivable way?

Do Brazilian Favelas or South African Black Ghettos benefit from rampaging in nice neighborhoods or Shoot to kill the Boers?

Actually, Oakland/Portland hooligans DO benefit from robbing stores.

But if there was a proper historical response of a mass police/nat guard invasion and shooting everything that moved, it wouldn't happen again for a generation.

There's a raw human element to this, it's not all a dark design.

Anything that gets people to wake up for the need for national borders and limiting immigration is a benefit.

PedoIwog says

Of course they did. The urgency and sloppiness with how we acted in corrupt Ukraine made that inevitable.

The Trump doctrine of promising a solid beating was a much better tactic, and sending a firm warning shot by blowing away an entire company of Wagner was more effective than Biden State Department toothless rants.

Fuck, they sold a fucking Cold War era Jump/Jeep Carrier to China under the very stupid excuse that it was wanted in Macao to be turned into a Floating Casino. The CCP/PLAN went over it with a fine tooth comb and massively increased their knowledge of Naval Aviation and Ukie Oligarchs got rich.

Just like we abandoned Billions in weapons to the Taliban.

Meanwhile the Pope is all whinging about Europe having a second-guess moment about hyperimmigration.
https://www.euronews.com/2023/09/23/pope-urges-europe-to-welcome-migrants-and-condemns-euthanasia

richwicks says

I think the fool thinks he has a shot at the presidency, he's naive and childish. We'll have Joe Biden or some other puppet like Gavin Newsom.

RFK Jr is a breath of fresh air on many major political issues.

I'm not sure it was a false flag as there were too many involved with this. It was not a simple individual event like a sinking of a ship or shooting at a Nashville private Christian school.

Today's attack on Israel was too complex and widespread of a terrorist event. Same goes with 911 as not being a false flag operation.

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AmericanKulak says

When you look deeper, it gels. She's from an NPR family and attended far left radical Evergreen College. You remember the school that wanted to have a "No Whites on Campus Day" and then a group of students lead by fat left radical profs intimidated Brett Weinstein and the Admin refused to act?

It doesn't matter. Matt Groening is from Evergreen, Bret Weinstein taught there. I know it's a natural tendency to think in groups, but if you get smart enough, you will think in terms of individuals. I know this is hurdle.

AmericanKulak says

The Biden Admin is FUCKING TERRIFIED.

On one hand, they have their "In the Bag" Dark Blue Chicago and NYC Mayors complaining about immigrants and open borders. People are noticing that Israel has big border walls, that were breached on a combo Sabbath/Holiday at multiple points. That just a month ago, Biden paid a $6B Danegeld to Iran.

NO. Biden is a man that is out of his mind in senility who stole an election and will steal one again. Either he will step down and have another puppet "elected" or he will remain installed. We do not have a democratic republic. He's a puppet, he just has to be replaced by another puppet or live long enough to be "re-elected".

Until the public realizes we don't actually elect this assholes, we're stuck with them. I've been to a primary in 2008. When it didn't go the way "the party" wanted, it was just simply cancelled. Ron Paul was extremely popular, Fred Thompson was the person they were pushing for. As soon as it was obvious that Thompson had ZERO chance, it was cancelled, and this was just a straw poll.

AmericanKulak says

People are connecting the dots. They're seeing what Neoliberal open borders are. Neocons are just neoliberals who thought they could make a few examples here and there to get total global compliance

Neoliberals / Neocons - they are the same. They are simply fascists, authoritarians. Either Communist or Fascist, they don't care. They're insane lunatics, and they control our foreign policy.

AmericanKulak says

Do Brazilian Favelas or South African Black Ghettos benefit from rampaging in nice neighborhoods or Shoot to kill the Boers?

Actually, Oakland/Portland hooligans DO benefit from robbing stores.

There's a raw human element to this, it's not all a dark design.

Israeli intelligence is very organized. There's no possible way they didn't see this coming, which means they caused it.

This attack was to change public perception. So maybe a few people died, these assholes don't care. I'll believe there's a legitimate attack when a Palestinian puts a bullet through a brain of an Israeli politician, instead of an Israeli doing it.

Yitzhak Rabin was murdered by Yigal Amir. Isn't it weird none of these groups murder politicians? Normal people don't have it in their makeup to murder people, no matter what they do.

If you want to make a change, murder the fucking leader, that will give the next leader some pause about what they are doing, but STRANGELY this never happens. Why?

Israel at War: Over 600 Israelis murdered in Hamas massacre

Israel's Embassy to the United States reported over 100 soldiers and civilians were kidnapped into Gaza • More than 2,000 wounded

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/2023-10-07/live-updates-762053

As is typical, it's the innocent civilians, on both sides, that will pay the ultimate price for this latest round of insanity.

richwicks says

Israeli intelligence is very organized. There's no possible way they didn't see this coming, which means they caused it.

Or they are only competent like our own intel agencies when it comes to spying on their domestic political targets ?

FBI is brilliant at targeting bumbling MAGA/January 6 protestors, but it is the Keystone Cops as far as stopping Chicom espionage, AntiFa mass murderers like the shooter at the Christian school in Nashville, etc.

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richwicks says

Israeli intelligence is very organized. There's no possible way they didn't see this coming, which means they caused it.

Or they are only competent like our own intel agencies when it comes to spying on their domestic political targets ?

Yep.

Taking their eye off the ball too busy going after Netanyahu.

"Israel Denies Leaked Claim That Spy Agency Leaders Encouraged Protest"
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/08/world/middleeast/israel-mossad-leaked-documents-pentagon.html

RayAmerica says

Israel at War: Over 600 Israelis murdered in Hamas massacre

Israel's Embassy to the United States reported over 100 soldiers and civilians were kidnapped into Gaza • More than 2,000 wounded

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/2023-10-07/live-updates-762053

As is typical, it's the innocent civilians, on both sides, that will pay the ultimate price for this latest round of insanity.

How can we sure it's really happening and not simply a fake crisis to syphon 10% to the Big Guy?

RWSGFY says

Israel at War: Over 600 Israelis murdered in Hamas massacre

Almost half were murdered at the rave music and peace festival in southern Israel. The Islamic terrorists are kidnapping like they did in the 1970s such as during the 1972 Olympics.
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Warmonger Senator Lindsey Graham Warns if Hezbollah Intervenes in Israel-Palestine Conflict, U.S. MUST RESPOND Against Iran

"It is long past time for the Iranian terrorist state to pay a price for all the upheaval and destruction being sown throughout the region and world."

— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/warmonger-senator-lindsey-graham-warns-if-hezbollah-intervenes/

The NeoCons have been looking for an excuse to go to war with Iran since 9/11. With China and Russia allied with Iran, this just might be what they need to start WW III.

RayAmerica says

The NeoCons have been looking for an excuse to go to war with Iran since 9/11. With China and Russia allied with Iran, this just might be what they need to start WW III.

I guess I'm a "NeoCon" if I'm not cool with Russia's invasion of Ukraine and feral Islamist's rape and murder of innocent Jews at raves and bus stops.

I'm a NeoCon if I'm not down with the whole BLM/Decolonization bullshit struggle here at home and abroad.

The Socialists are out in full force today around the world marching in solidarity with Islamist butchers despite yesterday's depravity.

I know what side I'm on.

I guess now that the Uky operation is a lost cause, a new front, replete with $billions in money-laundering activities, must be opened. Why not "our" good friend Israel - well, maybe not technically, since it was the West Bank, but what's a globohomo to quibble with details?

richwicks says

If you want to make a change, murder the fucking leader, that will give the next leader some pause about what they are doing, but STRANGELY this never happens. Why?

The fact that it's always random civilians getting killed and never the people at the top is good evidence that the people at the top are just playing a game by getting some of their own pawns killed to manipulate public sympathy.

So I suspect that the Hamas attack was either organized by, or permitted to happen by AIPAC or the Israeli government. All for the media coverage and public sympathy. I can't prove it, but it doesn't make sense that Israel was surprised by such an attack.

Just after writing that, I opened this, which says about the same thing:

https://newsparadigm.substack.com/p/like-the-911-inside-job-israel-coincidently

Like the 9/11 Inside Job, Israel Coincidentally Suffers the Same Intelligence Failures in the Purported Hamas Attack. Who Really Controls HAMAS?

Efrat Fenigson and others view this incident as a false flag and government sponsored terrorist event.

stereotomy says

I guess now that the Uky operation is a lost cause, a new front, replete with $billions in money-laundering activities

I suspect the West will push Zelensky to accept a cease fire and let Russia control Donbas and Crimea. If not, then they'll figure out how to make Zelensky lose in the 2024 election.

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Yet another article about how the Hamas attack was likely allowed to happen to promote Israel PR goals:

https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/dying-cabals-final-play-sneak-attack

Dying Cabal's Final Play? Sneak Attack On World's Most Advanced Military Surveillance Power, Horrific Images From Israel: Netanyahu: "We Will Turn Gaza Into A Deserted Island"

But Why Were Border Crossings Reportedly Wide Open? Weary World Sees All Telltale Signs Of Planned Events With Planned Outcomes

FFS - here we go with the conspiracy retardation.

Apparently the thousands of Hamas Jihadis that carried out this sophisticated attack have absolutely no agency and it was all the work of the Joos pulling the strings.

Patrick says

Yet another article about how the Hamas attack was likely allowed to happen to promote Israel PR goals:

https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/dying-cabals-final-play-sneak-attack

Dying Cabal's Final Play? Sneak Attack On World's Most Advanced Military Surveillance Power, Horrific Images From Israel: Netanyahu: "We Will Turn Gaza Into A Deserted Island"

But Why Were Border Crossings Reportedly Wide Open? Weary World Sees All Telltale Signs Of Planned Events With Planned Outcomes

It's like Israel has gone Full Democtat. Never go Full Democrat...or even a little bit Democrat.

richwicks says

Matt Groening is from Evergreen, Bret Weinstein taught there.

I think Groening graduated from Evergreen when Culture Club was in the top 10. Weinstein was intimidated by Faculty, Staff, and Students and sued their asses and won.

richwicks says

NO. Biden is a man that is out of his mind

I said (emphasis mine):

AmericanKulak says

The Biden Admin is FUCKING TERRIFIED.

richwicks says

Israeli intelligence is very organized. There's no possible way they didn't see this coming, which means they caused it.

The CIA and NSA didn't see the Indian bomb coming. Intel Agencies make mistakes. Hamas is always training with firearms. They might have had a clue something was in the works, but not the attacks against the many 10s of kilometers of simple barbed wire with dozers. The usual parading for the cameras around the concrete walls and gate areas.

Patrick says

But Why Were Border Crossings Reportedly Wide Open? Weary World Sees All Telltale Signs Of Planned Events With Planned Outcomes

Hamas unusually did NOT attack the Crossings; the went to the simple fence and barbed wire facing the rural areas of Gaza rather than the few roads in and out.

Here's some more food for thought: So what if they knew or suspected more than the usual?

The behavior of Hamas was shown.

No more Gaza, Know more Peace. Forget the smart bombs, just carpet bomb and be done with the whole thing, enough of the endless conflict.

After all, if Assad Muh Mighty Lion Daddy could level half of Hama and kill at least 50,000 of them over a month and deport 100,000 more, what's good for the "Poor Misunderstood Syrian Government" is good for Israel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Hama_massacre

BTW, I'm not so sure Iran and not Qatar or Turkey or Syria. Or all four.

After all the Chief of Hamas lives in a luxury home in Qatar as did Mashal before him. Why not bomb a nice oil terminal there as a friendly message?

By the way, I watched all the ANSWER/IfNotNow/BLM Pro-Pakistine marchers in Philly, Chicago, NYC. All Visa overstays, dual/triple citizens, crossdressers, and antifa.

Patrick says

Like the 9/11 Inside Job, Israel Coincidentally Suffers the Same Intelligence Failures in the Purported Hamas Attack.

What I find is odd is why such a coordinated attack did not include MANPADs or drones. Surly Hamas expected IAF retaliatory attacks, so why no shoulder fired anti-aircraft waiting? The attackers had paragliders, but not drones to hit houses of high politicians or crater a runway?

AmericanKulak says

deport 100,000 more

Gaza is 141 square miles and has a population of about 2.4 million.

I am not sure where you can send a lot of them even if they are not terrorists or unruly type.

Who wants them ? We are taking in most of Central America's and Venezuela's unwanted masses.

Send them to the Sinai peninsula or west of that.

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Now that was quick. We need to go to WAR with Iran (and its allies China & Russia) because a "new report" (the source of which is not named) states that IRAN planned the whole attack.

Is there anyone here other than socal2 that is going to enlist in order to fight in WW III?

CONFIRMED: Iran Planned and 'Green-Lit' Murderous Hamas Attacks on Israel

A new report is shedding light on how Hamas managed to pull off its violent invasion of Israel on Saturday. Possibly thousands are dead in the wake of the Palestinian terror spree, in which women and children were indiscriminately murdered in the streets.

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/10/09/confirmed-iran-planned-and-green-lit-murderous-hamas-attacks-on-israel-n2164840

https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/all-this-death-is-the-fault-of-the?publication_id=82124&post_id=137788966&isFreemail=true&r=6gdz

I see no reason to speculate whether the Hamas offensive was allowed to happen at this time when coming events will show how likely that was. If there’s just a lot of violence and then it goes back to more or less the status quo, Israeli intelligence probably did just massively faceplant and miss extensive preparations for an attack which included training for air and sea assaults. If new agendas are rolled out that wouldn’t have been consented to without the attack, chances are much higher it was allowed; the more far-reaching the agendas, the greater the likelihood.

Reasonable point.

We can get a better idea of whether this attack was encouraged and allowed by what they try to do with it as a result.