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"Sorry... But It's Under Contract"... FUCKING LIARS!


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2012 Jul 23, 6:53am   24,778 views  51 comments

by Robber Baron Elite Scum   ➕follow (2)   💰tip   ignore  

Anything that's EVEN SOMEWHAT a bit reasonably priced... "It's under-contract."....

Every fucking home I call about...

How does that make it a buyers market? It's NOT a buyers market. It's a sellers market!

And the homes are only 1-2 weeks on the fucking market!

If buyers have that many fucking competitors there is no way it is a buyers market. It's time to sell, not buy.

I also suspect that the brokers tell their agents to say it's in contract when it is not because the Broker wants to buy it himself and flip it.

And all of times on redfin along with everywhere else it says that it is not in contract. And the listing even stays active 2 weeks later that they told me it's in contract.

What the fuck is up with this... "It's in-contract" ???? Every fucking time!

Perhaps they are lying and I should mail my offer to the address so the homeowner sees it?

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31   ELC   2012 Sep 30, 11:06pm  

hj2222 says

So from what I read here, the investing is causing a lot of competition and preventing people who want to buy a home to live in from getting any good deals.

As a traditional home buyer you should always be able to outbid an investor. If you can't then you're in competition with a fool who's willing to buy at retail. If you do lose out to a vulture at least take comfort in the fact that he will be on food stamps in a couple of years.

32   ELC   2012 Sep 30, 11:13pm  

pkennedy says

Those investors have pushed DOWN the prices because cash buyers always buy at a discount. If you're offering up 100% cash, then you expect a discount.

If they don't have any people with half decent credit making offers they might give a discount for cash but in my area I've seen FHA buyers beat out cash buyers every time. It's the sellers who've had a couple of FHA buyers fall through that are open to giving a discount for cash. IF they can afford it. Usually they need top dollar to pay off their mortgage.

33   ELC   2012 Sep 30, 11:27pm  

pkennedy says

Now, why won't they accept your HIGHER offer? For several reasons.
1) Your higher offer simply won't appraise. You need to get a loan, and the bank will get an appraisal and that will come back close to the offering price most likely. Now the realtors have to do extra work.

The Realtor doesn't run the show the sellers do. The seller first has to see for themself the house won't appraise. They think their garbge is gold at first. It would help to target sellers where you see the sale fell through once or twice. By then they just want the nightmare of selling a house to end.

34   ELC   2012 Sep 30, 11:38pm  

civilsid says

have not ever head of a 3 day closing, from a buyer side- I would at the very least insist on a preliminary title report to review any possible inconsistencies or discrepencies.

I recently sold my condo and it closed in two days. Usually what holds it up is the title insurance. You need a title company who's willing to call in some favors.

35   37108605   2012 Sep 30, 11:40pm  

ELC says

If you can't then you're in competition with a fool who's willing to buy at retail.

GREAT line. As I have said numerous times, if you don't see the sucker in the game, the sucker is YOU.

36   zzyzzx   2012 Sep 30, 11:58pm  

Robber Baron Elite Scum says

I also suspect that the brokers tell their agents to say it's in contract when it is not because the Broker wants to buy it himself and flip it.

I suspect that it's realtor speak for they want you to submit a high offer.

37   woppa   2012 Oct 1, 12:07am  

Submit a rather high offer and see if the "contract" falls through the next day or week. Then you know something was most likely not kosher.

38   carducci22   2012 Oct 1, 12:15am  

Good tips pls.
Does anyone know LA market?

I am looking to purchase a house in LA. I have a very young family.
LA is souited best for my work. I know LA fairly well.
But not sure which neighborhood to buy.
I have $400k cash to spend may be a little bit more.

What type of house should I expect for my budget?
Is culver city out of question?
Does anyone know a good listing agent?
How do I grab a good deal?
Which neighborhood has good school?
Is it the right time to buy in LA?

i appreciate any good advise.

39   Jericho   2019 Jun 20, 8:24am  

spam
40   Robber Baron Elite Scum   2023 Nov 5, 7:23am  

A decade later, what is the housing market now? Buyers market or sellers market?

I say a sellers market!

What do you guys think after more than a decade!
41   PC   2023 Nov 8, 5:27pm  

a buyers market if you have cash and can find something! I live in sun city az. 16 yrs. the only reason you see a house for sale on my block is if they died. recently 2 died and they had open house yesterday. there were at least 20 cars waiting
42   WookieMan   2023 Nov 9, 6:28am  

PC says

a buyers market if you have cash and can find something! I live in sun city az. 16 yrs. the only reason you see a house for sale on my block is if they died. recently 2 died and they had open house yesterday. there were at least 20 cars waiting

Not being a dick, but you literally just defined a sellers market to a T.
43   zzyzzx   2023 Nov 9, 12:57pm  

https://www.reddit.com/r/RealEstate/comments/17oa29o/is_lying_common_practice_in_negotiations/

Is lying common practice in negotiations?

I received an offer on my home after the first round of open houses that was over asking with a waived inspection & solid financing. It was the only offer I received.

My agent wanted to lie to the folks who made an offer and tell them we received multiple offers and to please submit best and final. I rejected that strategy & my agent insisted that it was common practice at his realty group.

I feel comfortable in my decision to not go through with that plan but was wondering if that strategy really is common place. It feels slimy to me.
44   Onvacation   2023 Nov 9, 1:02pm  

zzyzzx says

It feels slimy to me.

Like when your "buyer's agent", making 3% commission, is going to get you a house for the cheapest price.
45   Bd6r   2023 Nov 9, 8:30pm  

Robber Baron Elite Scum says

A decade later, what is the housing market now? Buyers market or sellers market?

I say a sellers market!

What do you guys think after more than a decade!

In TX triangle countryside - seller’s market. An acre of mesquite brush sells for 20-50K without mineral rights which is insane.

About situation described in OP - when we were buying a farm nearly 3 yrs ago, the realtor(TM) started yelling that we need to agree to buy right now, at full price, before leaving property as there are a lot of cash buyers. I just left. She called us up next day saying that the sale fell through and we can submit a bid…this is a clear case of realtardation multiplied by small town thinking where outsiders should be fleeced.
46   GNL   2023 Nov 9, 9:45pm  

It will be a sellers market for a very long time.
47   SunnyvaleCA   2023 Nov 10, 12:13am  

Out here in silicon valley, it's always a seller's market.

Mortgage rates have risen substantially from historic lows, which would make me think it would hurt sellers and become a buyer's market for the remaining people with loads of cash. But it seems that the high rates make existing home owners loathe to trade up to a better home, since they don't want to trade in a 3% mortgage for a 6% one. So that imbalance remains intact, with fewer buyers being matched by fewer sellers. I guess the only losers are the Realtors™, which makes it a big win for everyone else!

The house a few doors down from me went up for sale 10 months ago then went off market. It went up for sale again just a month ago and had a "sold" sign posted within a week. Can't wait to see the price, as it's an identical house to mine but with a lot of cosmetic improvements.
48   Patrick   2023 Nov 10, 12:46am  

I'm seeing more for-sale signs around my bit of Silicon Valley, and they seem to stay up quite a while. Two houses in my neighborhood has been on the market over 50 days each.
49   GNL   2023 Nov 10, 12:57am  

Patrick says

I'm seeing more for-sale signs around my bit of Silicon Valley, and they seem to stay up quite a while. Two houses in my neighborhood has been on the market over 50 days each.

What's the price point?
50   Onvacation   2023 Nov 10, 12:22pm  

GNL says

What's the price point?

On Zillow, there are seven houses in Patrick's area (Millbrae down to Palo Alto) for less than a million dollars.
Here is one:
$980,000 3415 La Selva St, San Mateo, CA 94403
2beds 2baths 1,190sqft Est.: $7,097/mo
Townhouse, Built in 1978 1,464 sqft lot
$955,800 Zestimate®
$824/sqft
$435/mo HOA

The same area has 450 houses over a million. Of those, 109 are over $5 million, and 38 are asking over $10 million.
51   GNL   2023 Nov 10, 12:54pm  

Damn. Actually, I believe mclean Virginia is hitting those numbers also. Or close to it.

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